WE LOVE RAVERS

[Let_lovin_Take_Ahold]

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Hey Everyone! Since you seem so sad that thier arent any "Ravers" around nagging to you... here I am. You people are pretty lame. All raves are about Peace, Love and Dancing. Ravers didnt do anything to you. But you people spend you time on the internet making fun of them for no reason (I guess you have nothing better to do). Its really sad. I bet the reason you do this is because you feel you need to b/c that is what your type of people (Punks, Angry Depressed Kids,...) are supposed to do.. I don't see it as "Hardcore", I see it as Fake. Its great that you guys speak your mind, but maybe you should learn to speak more positive, like about trying to stop the war, or starving children. Its people like you that make america the way it is today. Ravers/hippies are just trying to make a peaceful enviorment, so people wont always have to deal with cold-hearted and pathetic people like you. I like maybe you guys should stop spending your time dissing ravers and go get laid or try to be nice or something, Because RAVERS ARE HERE TO STAY!!! We arent going anywhere.

PLUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SUM]

man, u got it all wrong. see, its people like you that make america shit w/your anti-war propaganda. Maybe you should stop being so damn down w/your inner soul & realize that there is a real world out there & weather you like it or not, youre involved in it. And its not all about PLUR. Do you honestly think that maybe we shouldnt go to war & just let Saddam have his nuclear weapons so that he can sell them to terrorists so they can blow us the fuck up? good call, idiot. do some damn homework before you run your mouth w/that pro-peace bullshit. No matter what, there will never be peace on earth, so just learn to deal with it.

[Let_lovin_Take_Ahold]

American Is "shit" Because of all the violent red necks that think war is "okay". War is Murder and acoording to The U.S.A. Murder is wrong. People that agree with "anti-war" are the ones that are trying to save your ass from getting killed when war breaks out and anthrax gets spread all over your presious town. You should be thanking us not being a jerk. We are trying to make the real world a better place, If everyone beleived in PLUR like we do, there wouldnt be war or violence, now would there? If I didnt acknowledge the fact that I was a part of it, I dont think I would be protesting peace either. I don't think war should even be a possibility, I think there are other ways to solve a conflict besides war. What is about to take place,is not justifiable. Not only with Iraq,but right here. Enough blood has shed! it takes all kinds of people to make/or in this case to BREAK a country. The country be'n broke is ours!. I am not with this sort of program Bush has created. He listens to no one,and has set upon (kill'n). He claims to be a religous man/What God would have him do these horific things to others?. He claims he is against Terrorists-yet he acts as one himself. You're so called leader, Is a war-crazed red-neck asshole and you dont even care. Did you know that Prescott Bush had financed the German army In WWII? Which means our Country is ruled by a family of fuckin Nazi's and you think thats okay? Thats lame. I bet you are the type of person who gets in fights alot, over little things. Because your to shallow to find a mature, respondsible way to handle a problem. Don't tell me I dont know what Im talking about, or to do my "Homework" Its obvious I know alot more than you, Im not brainwashed by our government, who makes you think killing hundrededs of people is a good thing, You fuckin Nazi. Maybe you would see things diffrent if you had to actually participate in the war and experience your our pain or death, instead of sitting on your ass and reading about it in the headlines. I don't know why you dont think there will never be peace, Maybe you and all your *Anti-raver, Anti-Hippy, I listen to death metal and I hate the world* Friends beleive that, but you are sadly mistaken. Maybe you should be so rude, and maybe you should stop beleiving in your Pro-War shit... Because thinking one crazy person is the reason to kill thousand its lame, you fucking tool.

[MaskedMonk]

Ok, two things.

Raver: Wait until you aren't high to post. Holy crap.

Anti-Raver: The only reason we have to deal with Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons is because we fucking gave him chemical weapons. The only reason we have to worry about terrorists is because we support governments that allow terrorists to function (and I do mean we, unless you have never been in a car and don't pay taxes), and even when we don't, we don't fix the actual problems in the country like complete lack of roads, education, and rule by warlords - we just send the army in, shoot a bunch of people, and then leave.

[SUM]

"if everyone believed in PLUR like we do"? hahaha! man, thats funny. check this out kid, ive been in the scene for a good while now & for a moment, i was into all that plur shit, then i stopped doin drugs & came in contact with reality. Now, its true, if there were no violence, there would be no wars & everyhting would be peaceful. Sounds like the perfect place right? WRONG! thats just about the most boring place on earth, see, we need a good balance of good & evil b/c w/o one, the other is no good. And how can you say that starting a war by killing off terrorsits is not justifiable, thats pretty much the most justafiable thing here, man. You just want terrorists to be able to waltz into America whenever the fuck they want & crash airplanes into buildings filled w/innocents? Good call, moron. As for this country breaking, it hasnt broken yet & weve been in MANY wars & won all but one. Id says thats a damn good record.
He claims to be a religous man/What God would have him do these horific things to others?
now why you bringin God into this, dude? If you wanna bring God into it, then why not go back onto previous occasions? What kind of God would let any of the crazy shit that has happened, happen, ever?
As for the Presedent's relatives, that is irrelevant. Thats like families suing other families b/c one is Jewish & the others were Nazis. The people here now dont have shit to do with the people back then. Just because someone's great grandfather (or whatever the case may be) was a Nazi does NOT in ANY way mean that the great grandson is a Nazi or ever will become one.
You fuckin Nazi.
LOFL. Thats funny, im a Nazi because im not afraid of the cosequences of war? Because if the draft comes back im not gonna burn my papers & move to DC & do drugs in front of the White House all day long? Because im not a big pussy & am not gonna stand down when my country needs me the most? Because i am willing to die for this great land? Okay then, im a Nazi, if thats the way you look at it. But hey, at least im not a pussy ass bitch whos gonna run away at the first shot.
I don't know why you dont think there will never be peace, Maybe you and all your *Anti-raver, Anti-Hippy, I listen to death metal and I hate the world
Im a Junglist, plain & simple. But lets put it this way, has there EVER been peace (gonna bring the bible into this)? Only once, & that was for about 10 seconds until Eve decided to take the apple. From then on out, evil has been surrounding us. And it will never die, just as peace will never die. they will live hand in hand forever, and thats just the way it is.
Because thinking one crazy person is the reason to kill thousand its lame, you fucking tool.
ONE crazy person? ONE??? no no no my friend, there are many more than just one.
Let me put it to you this way, plain & simple, for there to be peace, there must be a war. Because if America doesnt do anything, whats not to stop some other group of people to attack us again? War is really a way of setting an example. The example is, you fuck with us, we fucking blow you away. Look at, for instance, Japan. They attacked us, we blew the shit outta them & so many years down the road, we are at peace with one another. This is why for peace, there must be war.

...MaskedMonk, i know we gave Saddam weapons, but he used those already, check up on your history, pal. And yes, i know about the terrorists. Im pretty much lost on what you said tho, are you supporting me or the draft dodger?

[SUM]

DAMN! i didnt know what i wrote was THAT long lol

[MaskedMonk]

I'm saying that the war on terror is sort of like chopping the top half of a weed off and expecting it to not grow back the next day, and the invasion of Iraq is mostly a way to distract people from Afghanistan, and how the people we fought to remove from power are coming back and recruiting new cannon fodder.

[Anonymous]

I bet you are the type of person who gets in fights alot, over little things.

uh..

[SUM]

right, but you see, the reason we are fighting Iraq is because Saddam may be the one supplying chemical weapons to terrorists. Look at it this way, if youre gonna fight the war on drugs, you dont arrest every kid w/a dime bag, you arrest the source, the dealer.

[Anonymous]

So, by your logic, we should arrest ourselves?

[MaskedMonk]

The reason for terrorism is not the existance of weapons. I mean, French people probably have weapons of mass destruction but nobody freaks out when one of them gets on a plane. Terrorism is caused by two things - having a shitty country, and the country's shitty condition being our fault.

[SUM]

touche chojin...touche.

[The Retro Kat]

Well, Lovin. You are one dumb piece of shit.

I for one am very happy with President Bush. He is taking hold of the situation well. If your hippy scumbag druggie ass was in his spot preaching this love shit, well, you'd be dead and there would be a lot more people in landmarks and monuments dead.

I would gladly fight in this war if it need be necessary. Fuck, I would ride a nuke down on Iraq or Kuwait or Afghanistan Slim Pickens style. No regrets. Sometimes war is the answer to save fucking jackasses like you and all of us in this country.


So, in conclusion, fuck you and your hippy friend, you're our of your elements and have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

[Skulhedface]

All raves are about Peace, Love and Dancing.

I thought they were about trading pills and playing with shiny, glowy things.



Enough blood has shed!
And sweetie, as long as there are more than two people on this planet who have even one trait that's not in common, there will be more.



Because your to shallow to find a mature, respondsible way to handle a problem.
So why don't YOU run for office, since you can run this country SOOOOOO much better than any of us.

Did you know that Prescott Bush had financed the German army In WWII? Which means our Country is ruled by a family of fuckin Nazi's and you think thats okay?
So by that rationale, ANYONE of German descent that didn't flee Nazi Germany is also a Nazi?

Im not brainwashed by our government
Oh yea? Where did you find out that "Prescott Bush" was backing the Nazis? It wasn't a Democratic Smear Campaign booklet, was it perchance? If you tell me it was a website I will smack the shit out of you.


You fuckin Nazi.
PLUR, indeed.

What God would have him do these horific things to others?.
Gee, I bet the millions of people that died during the Holocaust or even WWII in general are thinking the same things.

Besides, what God would also massacre half a world of people "In His Name"? Think.

You can preach about a perfect world all you want. Ain't gonna happen. DEAL WITH IT. You need to wipe the rosey tint off those glasses.

[CastroMotorOil]

Its obvious I know alot more than you

Really, so that is why you take the magic happy brain eating drug and watch the super cool glowing magic sticks float around?

Because RAVERS ARE HERE TO STAY!!! We arent going anywhere.

Well that is probably because you
A. Forgot where your legs were or hwo they worked.
B. Got lost in the big open space that is the rave.
C. Forgot how to drive your car home.
D. Think anyone gives a damn about your opinions.


All raves are about Peace, Love and Dancing.
Especially ones in chicago.

I don't know why you dont think there will never be peace,
Simple history, there as only been world peace for maybe 10-15 years total throughout human history. Humans are a naturally aggressive creature. Human aggression is a mainstay of the world and one day it wil lbe our downfall. Until then there will always be war somewhere. Beleiving anything else is naive and foolhardy.

I think there are other ways to solve a conflict besides war.
Really, I mean by god you should tell somone about those ways. Are they by any chance called diplomacy? Well news flash we have tried that for 10 years and it has not worked, time for plan B.

He claims to be a religous man/What God would have him do these horific things to others?.
Just about every god man has ever created.

Too close, thank you Lovin for you ahve given me much needed self esteem boost. I had forgotten how much smarter and more intelligent i am then most people, and the fact that I am not you is a another big bonus. I really do hope you take some laced E next tiem you go raving

[Skulhedface]

Quote:
All raves are about Peace, Love and Dancing.

Especially ones in chicago.

:lol @Zorak, can't believe I missed that one

[The Retro Kat]

The funny thing is that the hippy can't say anything to top that shit.

[Skulhedface]

Which probably means ::sniffs the air:: I SMELL CHARACTER!

[Carnivore]

Wow. That is just astounding stupidity there. Bravo! Unless LLTA returns, I won't devote any more energy to this thread.

And for the record, I hate Bush... but I hate morons like you too, LLTA.

[Buddha]

that thing about chicago woulda been funny, but that wasnt a rave.

[CastroMotorOil]

close enough, and most peopel who go "clubbin" are the same peopel who rave

[Skulhedface]

and I bet if they autopsy the corpses, they'll find just as high a chemical level in the blood as well.

[CastroMotorOil]

Carni is probably right, but i don't care, i still had fun

[The Retro Kat]

I really wish lovin would come back. Because you know anything he types would be sheer idiocy and we would tear him a new one.

[Skulhedface]

I still have trouble believing that Lovin is anything but a very badly thought out character. Or a personified migraine.

[Buddha]

close enough, and most peopel who go "clubbin" are the same peopel who rave

not true. i work at a nightclub and on Friday nights we used to do hip-hop parites (like the one in Chicago) and then on Saturday nights we play electronic music, TOTALLY different crowd. Then on Friday nights, we do top 40 bullshit just to get alot of heads in the door, once again, TOTALLY different crowd. So yea, youre wrong.


and I bet if they autopsy the corpses, they'll find just as high a chemical level in the blood as well.

I bet if there is ever a massive fire at a Greatful Dead concert, or some other type of rock concert, theyll find just as high a chemical level, possibly even higher in the blood. But i like where you were goin with that, tryin to say that people who do drugs & listen to music are totally alike, good call.

[Vibecrewangel]

Sum - You never cease to amaze or impress me.

You, like me, seem to be in the minority when it comes to certain issues. Take for example the potential for war. You and I both feel quite the same way. Sure, a peacefull solution is preferable, however that is simply not a viable option at this time.

It really comes down too this.....

If we choose peace, it will appear that we have backed down. We will appear weak in the face of those that consider us their enemy. Weakness is always exploited. Weakness is always attacked. 9/11 is an exapmle of that. Our complacency was our weakness. We felt so safe in our ivory tower. Indestructable. Untouchable. Unmoved by anything that didn't effect us directly. Why should we? We were America the Great. The rest of the world didn't matter. Until of course they came and kicked in our door.
Bush will not allow himself or our country to appear weak. It just isn't in his nature. So this option is very unlikely.

If we choose war, we are the bully that the rest of the world thinks we are. We are trying to do exactly the same thing we are accusing others of doing. Pushing our will on people who don't necessaraly want it. We are ugly and mean in the eyes of the rest of the world. We don't want to play by the "rules" any more than say Saddam does. Of course our justification is we are bigger and stronger. In essence, we are a bully. A bully that is hated by most of the rest of the world. (unless of course they need something)
Bush would much rather be seen as a bully. That at least shows strength as opposed to weakness . At least in some peoples eyes.

I find it interesting the people who complain the most and who protest the most against this war are the same ones who don't vote and who generally DON'T EVEN CARE until something of this magnitude comes up. So I put this up to you. Register to vote. And do it federally and locally. Do something to actually make what you believe in happen. Protests and petitions are nothing more than a way to soothe yourself because when it comes down to it you sit back and let others make decisions for you. They don't effect change. Voting, being active, knowing what and who is on the ballots....that will effect change. Stand up for what you believe in in a way that matters or sit down and shut up and let the rest of us run things for you.

Don't get me wrong here. I think Bush is a terrible leader with a personal agenda that is dangerous to the country and the world. But, sadly, we allowed him to be elected.

Now, for the people who I am sure about to call me everything under the sun, let me give you a small intro to myself.

I am female, I am a "raver", I am bi-sexual, I am for lack of a better term a Buddist, I am a liberal (probably republican), I am a psychonaut (which is a nice way to say I am a drug user), I am an activist, but most of all I am a realist. And because of that, I accept that fact that though war is not my favorite answer, at this point it is as good as any on the table.

[Carnivore]

You can't be both a Liberal and a Republican.

And you'd probably have more luck with this discussion in Philosophy/Sociology/Religion/Politics/News/etc. (http://www.i-mockery.net/viewforum.php?f=5)

[Vibecrewangel]

It was for Sum, and he rarely shows up in there. :) Oh and for the ravers here. For the most part the people in the political forum who are against that war are more politically aware and seem to be the type who do vote. This was for the people who whine and bitch and protest, but don't actually take an active role in this country.

I am a republican in the sense that what the party is based on makes sense. What has been done to the party is garbage.
Less federal government more local government. However, what they have done in regards to the medical MJ issue in California shows how little the republicans really follow the basic issues of their own party.

[Skulhedface]

I bet if there is ever a massive fire at a Greatful Dead concert, or some other type of rock concert, theyll find just as high a chemical level, possibly even higher in the blood. But i like where you were goin with that, tryin to say that people who do drugs & listen to music are totally alike, good call.

Wow, I listen to music too, does that mean I'M on drugs?!?

Seriously, what I was SAYING is... not all concerts (although I have YET to go to one that's not just a local show without smelling weed in the air) but ones where people act insanely stupid and get killed.

And by the way, I bet there ARE going to be high chemical counts at a Grateful Dead concert.

"Hey man, the Dead are putting on a kick ass show tonight!"
"But dude, this isn't the Dead"
"They're not?"
"No dude, Jerry's dead, man!"
"Woah, deep."
"No, I mean, he's really dead."
"Yea, I know man. He rocks!"
"NO, you fool!"

All joking aside..I'm not being stereotypical, I'm being general. I know that not 100% of people at concerts are on drugs. But the ones doing the stupidest shit usually are. Or they're just completely fucking stupid.

[The Retro Kat]

I still have trouble believing that Lovin is anything but a very badly thought out character. Or a personified migraine.


I know, he just seems to easy a target.

[MaskedMonk]

Weakness is always attacked and exploited? Right, the terrorists attacked us because of incredibly weak strongest army in the world that we use quite often just didn't intimidate them enough.

You can't intimidate someone who doesn't care if they die. You can do your best to make sure that they have no friends.

[Skulhedface]

The sad thing is, they DO have friends. This applies to terrorists AND ravers.

[MaskedMonk]

Yeah, but eventually we'll get leaders who realize that having images of middle eastern civillians getting shot and blown up on TV helps the terrorists, and also people will realize that jumping around with glow sticks makes you look like a dumbass.

[Buddha]

Weakness is always attacked and exploited? Right, the terrorists attacked us because of incredibly weak strongest army in the world that we use quite often just didn't intimidate them enough.

Right, and because the terroists attacked our army, that makes perfect sense what you jsut said. They attacked our air system, which was one of the weakest, the stuff we have to go thru now has been like that in every other country for a long ass time.

[Vibecrewangel]

Weakness is always exploited. Weakness is always attacked. 9/11 is an exapmle of that. Our complacency was our weakness.

Notice what I said our weakness was. I said nothing of our military. In fact I said backing down would make us appear weak. Which some may try to exploit.

[dvient]

this has gotta be the FUNNIEST SHIT i have EVER read!
seriously! i have been partying for over 5 years so WHAT! all you little kandy kids have gotta stop takin yerselves so seriously. raves a RECREATIONAL not a LIFESTYLE....Oh, hang on a min, a got that the wrong way round didn't i?! lmao

is ketamine a lifestyle too?
hahaha!

[jailbaitmonger]

Didn't you already say that?

[KaffinePup]

[quote="jailbaitmonger"]No one calls soundwave uncrazamatic[quote]

...Classic. Classic. I love the transformers movie.

[executioneer]

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