Kerry's wealth troubling [Archive]

mburbank

Mar 22nd, 2004, 04:07 PM

Five Kerry Homes Valued at Nearly $33M

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - From a sailing mecca to a ski resort, presumptive Democratic nominee John Kerry and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, enjoy the trappings of their wealth in at least five homes and vacation getaways valued at nearly $33 million.

This pretty much makes me want to puke. How could anyone possibly need FIVE homes. I know Kerry/Heinz give a lot to charity, but it's not like there's a cap on giving.

The silver lining here, such as it is, is that Kerry is actively campaigning for president against a man who's policies have great increased his personal wealth. Here's an ultrawealthy couple saying they don't need or want the tax breaks W, has given them, and they'd get rid of them given half the chance.

I don't think it changes the fact that truly wealthy people don't have any idea what life is like for most people. But some truly wealthy people have more of an idea than others.

Ronnie Raygun

Mar 22nd, 2004, 08:21 PM

I don't hate rich people and I don't care if they get a tax cut because they are the ones who invest and help create jobs for people like me.

Stop class warfare.

Drew Katsikas

Mar 22nd, 2004, 08:34 PM

Stop people who have over 5 million dollars.

Bobo Adobo

Mar 22nd, 2004, 08:43 PM

Its like what Nader, Sharpton, and Kucinich were trying to say. You HAVE to be corprately funded, and wealthy to even run. This is one of the reasons I'm thinking of not even voting at all. This country was bought and sold a long time ago.

Keep this up, and we will be weilding a hammer and sickle in a few years...

sspadowsky

Mar 22nd, 2004, 08:50 PM

I think the same thing will happen here that has happened to every other world power in history: Economic disparity will reach a point where the masses of poor will no longer tolerate it, there will be a bloody revolt, and the whole pile of shit will start all over again.

The human race is too fucking stupid and self-absorbed to learn from its history, and I root enthusiastically for its inevitable destruction.

Bobo Adobo

Mar 22nd, 2004, 08:54 PM

I think the same thing will happen here that has happened to every other world power in history: Economic disparity will reach a point where the masses of poor will no longer tolerate it, there will be a bloody revolt, and the whole pile of shit will start all over again.

Egg- Zactly (thats what I meant by the whole hammer and sickle thing)

Its not just this issue either, there are a lot of policies like drug control that are just stupid. According to the Gov't, Its like the prohibition era never even happened.

Zhukov

Mar 22nd, 2004, 09:04 PM

Revolutions by the poor have always ended in defeat, it is the revolutions of the rising economicaly powerful class that succeed. It just so happens that the powerful class is the poor class at the moment. What people need to realise is that they (you) are part of this poorer class.

Perndog

Mar 22nd, 2004, 09:50 PM

It's not a matter of NEED, Max, and it's not even really about what a person deserves to have. This may sound a little Vinthy to you, but I think all liberals should pawn their television sets, dishwashers, and microwave ovens and give the profits to homeless people before they start talking about what the rich do and don't need. The scale is different, but the principle is the same.

And if *you* have an idea of what life is like for people who are worse off than you are, you should really be in a hurry to give up some of your luxuries. After all, the rich at least have the (flimsy) excuse of ignorance.

mburbank

Mar 23rd, 2004, 09:26 AM

I work for a non profit, I volunteer much of what little free time I have to public school and the VA, I rent property at significantly bellow the market rate. I keep a roof over my head, own one car and eat and I have health insurance through my job. I have cable, internet and food. I think these are things all americans should have.

You are correct that I could ditch some of this and give it to the poor, but I promise you, it's a balance of my families needs versus the needs of my community that I actively think about.

I don't hate the wealthy, and some people do wonderful things with their wealth. I do admit, however, an inherent distrust of the wealthy. I think comfort makes you myopic. I think the more comfort you have, the more myopic you are in danger of becoming.

I also distrust the aquisition of wealth. I defy anyone to tell me the difference between having say fifty million and five hundred million. You find yourself more and more pressed to do something for yourself so you know and others know your position. Like having five mansions when you'll only live in one at a time, and you can afford the best hotel wherever you go. Or being able to buy a baseball team or a presidency.

"I don't hate rich people and I don't care if they get a tax cut because they are the ones who invest and help create jobs for people like me. "
-Naldo

That's funny Naldo, I didn't know you were a Mexican or an Indian. I've seen a whole lot of wealth redistribution in the last few years and damn little job creation.

AChimp

Mar 23rd, 2004, 10:29 AM

To me, it depends on whether or not it's old money or new money. Did Kerry just inherit all of that, or is the money mostly from his ketchup wife? A lot of people who simply receive a load of money when their parents kick off don't know what it's like ot do anything for themselves, and that's bad.

But, when someone like Bill Gates rakes in billions after starting off with nothing, I think they deserve it for using their brain. :(

VinceZeb

Mar 23rd, 2004, 11:04 AM

*SIGH*

When are we going to stop class warfare? I figured we have advanced further along in society then to sit there and whine about "haves/have nots".

The entire concept of people "having too much" money is absurd. We, as a capitalist society, promote and encourage the ability for a man to earn what he can and what he wants to earn within the rule of law. If this man wants to make billions of dollars and horde it until the day he dies, he has every right to. It's not up to you, me, the goverment, or anyone else to decide who has "enough".

Deciding who should have what is what leads to Islamofacists, communists, etc. I don't judge the rich because they have the ability to earn money. I want to be rich as well, and I'll be damned if someone is going to tell me that I have "enough" money and I should be satisfied! What happens if someone gets into power and decides that the only thing Americans should have is a roof, food, and a bed? Would anyone in their right mind consider that enough?

I can tell you the difference between 5 million and 500 million, Max: The person with 500 million had the ability to earn 495 million more than the guy with 5 million. That is capitalism. It has been shown from time and memorial to be the way human beings are wired to run their economic societies.

It also amazes me that the Democrats will slash each other's achilies tendons to get to the podium and talk about the "poor, poor, pitiful poor" and the "evil rich" will pass leglisation that hurts the "poor" more than it does the "rich". -- I have a realitive that is a self-contracting construction company owner. He has came into a lot of business (especially in this "poor, awful, outsourcing, pitiful economy"!) and stands to make a bit of money. No one would ever confuse him with being rich. Democrats would raise our taxes because they are so fucking short-sighted they think that people with gold mansions and rocket cars are going to be the only ones affected. Since my realitive, as a small business owner would file his taxes under his own name, he would be hit hard by a tax increase. He would be forced to let go of workers or not take on projects since the rate of work he would have to put into those projects would not equal the rate of reward. But they don't tell you that on the news.

Freedoms, whether it be economic, social, religious, political, etc., are not for the weak, the whiny, the jealous or the spiteful. They are for people who want everyone to be able to have the chance to succede on their own accords, within the boundries of their own making or choice, rather than boundries made by human beings who think it is their right to tell people who should have what.

El Blanco

Mar 23rd, 2004, 11:56 AM

If he amassed his wealth honestly, who cares?

Is he a trust fiund baby or did he actually earn most of it?

If it is the latter, that means he is motivated, ambitious, organized and focused. These are qualities I want in a leader. I'm not going to vote for Kerry because I don't agree with where he stands on the issues and I don't like the campaign he is apparently about to run. It has nothing to do with his bank statements.

I also distrust the aquisition of wealth. I defy anyone to tell me the difference between having say fifty million and five hundred million. You find yourself more and more pressed to do something for yourself so you know and others know your position. Like having five mansions when you'll only live in one at a time, and you can afford the best hotel wherever you go. Or being able to buy a baseball team or a presidency.

So, the rich have no idea how the poor feel, but you are totally in touch with the multi-millionares? I'm sure you can see the double standard there.

mburbank

Mar 23rd, 2004, 12:16 PM

Vinth, I'm always pleased when you stop by. Where else would I get to see someone write "It has been shown from time and memorial "

I'm concidering telling you what the phrase actually is for the pleasure of watching you say you meant to get it wrong as a joke.

I also like "Freedoms, whether it be economic, social, religious, political, etc., are not for the weak, the whiny, the jealous or the spiteful."

Because like our president you have no idea what's plural and what's singular and because our constitution guarantees all those freedoms to all the people. I'm not surprised that while you're railing about not being told how much money you should be allowed to have (and no one told you anything of the sort) you feel free to say what qualities a person should have to be ensured economic, social, religous and poltical freedom.

Blanco, I make no claims about understanding the ultra wealthy, in fact I think I've been quite clear that I don't understand them, since I've tted I can't imagine hanging on to vast wealth. I don't understand them even a tiny little bit, and I don't imagine they understand the struggling middle class or the poor any better. I do imagine they are more comfortable, safe and well fed while they do their misunderstanding, though.

Most of Kerry's wealth comes from the Ketchup side of the family.

As for class warfare, the disparity between rich and poor in this country is larger than it's been in decades, and our countries wealth is concentrated in the hands of a smaller percentge of it's citizens than it has been in decades. THAT's class warfare, and I know which class is loosing the war. I think it's cute Vinth thinks we're beyond it, and I have no doubt that a well spoken, intelligent man like him will one day amass a great deal of wealth. He'll also ride a flying pig and duck alorange will pour out his ass every time he gets hungry.

AChimp

Mar 23rd, 2004, 01:41 PM

I have a realitive that is a self-contracting construction company owner. He has came into a lot of business (especially in this "poor, awful, outsourcing, pitiful economy"!) and stands to make a bit of money.
Somehow I don't see construction being an industry that's affected by outsourcing. :lol

mburbank

Mar 23rd, 2004, 01:45 PM

Well, sure it is! Loo at all the construction Halliburton is outsourcing to Iraq! If we'd kept that war at home, we'd be rebuilding our own infrastructure right now.

I am pleased though, that Vinth has moved from convenient roomates to convenient relatives. I hope his 'relative' knows more about filing 'small business' taxes than Vinth does.

VinceZeb

Mar 23rd, 2004, 10:29 PM

Kikebank, can you figure out a better way to rebuttal my posts? The "Oh VINTH DON'T TALK SO GOOD WELL" posts are childish.

Zhukov

Mar 23rd, 2004, 10:43 PM

Kikebank, can you figure out a better way to rebuttal my posts? :lol

Deciding who should have what is what leads to... communists.
Please, Vince, explain yourself. For me.

That is capitalism. It has been shown from time and memorial to be the way human beings are wired to run their economic societies.
If Man is 'wired' to run society with capitalsm, how do you explain the existence of other socio-economic systems? Primitive communism, slavery, feudalism... Where did they come from if Man is naturaly drawn to capitalism?

Perndog

Mar 23rd, 2004, 10:58 PM

The "Oh VINTH DON'T TALK SO GOOD WELL" posts are childish.

But they're so accurate! :)

Miss Modular

Mar 24th, 2004, 12:42 AM

Kikebank

LOL VINTH IS A WOPCACK!!! :lol

VinceZeb

Mar 24th, 2004, 07:10 AM

Pern, your question is a good one, but I can only answer it in one way. People are wired naturally to believe in a higher power, but some are atheists.

phnompehn

Mar 24th, 2004, 07:22 AM

Holy shit!! You're still alive?!

Perndog

Mar 24th, 2004, 11:09 AM

Zhukov asked the question. He's the communist here.

Zhukov

Mar 24th, 2004, 11:32 AM

ZHUKOV, your question is a good one, but I can only answer it in one way. People are wired naturally to believe in a higher power, but some are atheists.
Well, thanks Vince, but if the only way you can answer my question is in shit format, don’t bother. I already know the correct answer.

mburbank

Mar 24th, 2004, 11:48 AM

"Kikebank, can you figure out a better way to rebuttal my posts? The "Oh VINTH DON'T TALK SO GOOD WELL" posts are childish."

I don't need to 'rebuttal' you. You just did it yourself, and 'time and memorial' has shown out the gold standard of taking you seriosly is worth less than one of the handjobs that are given out to hobos for free by your mother.

"Time and memorial" ladies and gentlemen. "Time and memorial".

VinceZeb

Mar 24th, 2004, 12:14 PM

Keep dodging the points, Max. Maybe, just maybe, your fat ass will get a workout.

glowbelly

Mar 24th, 2004, 12:58 PM

he didn't dodge 'em. he addressed 'em, but all you can see is the parts where he makes fun of you because you are a self-obsessed fatso freak boy.

i just don't understand why people aren't inclined to help others more. if i had a buttload of money (and i know this sounds cliche) i would totally donate a HUGE sum of it to charity and make sure that it was going to aid good causes that i believe in.

i don't need 5 houses. i'll take one big giant nice one, please...but not 5.

see, i'm not going to pretend that if i had money, i wouldn't buy nice things because i would. i would try, however, to live inside my means and help others around me.

does that make me a socialist or a bleeding heart liberal?

mburbank

Mar 24th, 2004, 01:24 PM

In short, yes.

Vinth, if you made any points at all, I'm really, really, really sorry for not taking you seriously. See, I thought I was taking you just about as seriosuly as you deserve, since all I saw was you bloviating. Maybe I missed your points because they were buried in the smoking wreckage of the English language you call a post. It's very hard to tweeze any point you might be making out of the mess.

You might recall that the last time you whined like a little baby hermaphrodite about how I wouldn't adress your points, I agreed to meet you at Newsfilter. There you behaved like a spastic campfire girl and shamed yourself, and since then as anyone who had the missfortune to read our 'debate' knows, have lied about it. Lots of people who read it found it boring and unnecasary (and I agree) but no one thought you did anything but embarass yourself. That's why people offered to take your place and apologized for you and said if you could look beyond how bad your writting was sometimes you had something to say, sometimes.

So if I don't take you seriously enough I'm sure I'm sorry. You make a much btter punching bag than a sparring partner. Stick with what you're good at.

Now you say I'm good at doing things that are in some way tied to being Jewish or not having a great sex life like yours. Go on. It will be really funny.

Perndog

Mar 24th, 2004, 01:37 PM

http://www.mywastedyouth.com/ohsnap.gif

"You did an awfully good job of ducking your bills for a year, you hook-nosed tightwad."

I just can't bring myself to write as poorly as he does, though. I hope this is good enough. :)

mburbank

Mar 24th, 2004, 01:41 PM

It was the right spirit. Try this:

"Way to have ducked out of the paying bills you have that came in for over the last years worth sine time and memorial like a hooknose jew that you are does."

Bobo Adobo

Mar 24th, 2004, 03:36 PM

When are we going to stop class warfare? I figured we have advanced further along in society then to sit there and whine about "haves/have nots".

That is exactly the kind of ignorance both liberals and concervatives have today. No, Class warfare will NEVER end for as long as wealth is associated with power. Its just a fact of life.

People who are involved in american poliitics need to learn to stop being arrogant and learn from history.

mburbank

Mar 24th, 2004, 03:40 PM

I'm sorry, learn from what now? History is so over. Hasn't anyone told you We Are The Champions, My Friend? Sure all the other empires ended, but not ours. They all made mistakes, we don't make any and we'll stay on top until the sun goes out. Hey, your with us or your against us, and don't look now, but being against us isn't that much fun.

Miss Modular

Mar 24th, 2004, 04:33 PM

Maybe, just maybe, your fat ass will get a workout.

Pot, meet kettle.

mburbank

Mar 24th, 2004, 04:47 PM

While I'm overweight, my ass has always been and remains abnormally small. I have a hard time finding jeans that fit well, and the ass always looks empty. My stomach and face (particularly my ever grpowing jowels) are indeed fat, but my ass is petite.

kellychaos

Mar 24th, 2004, 04:48 PM

Pern, your question is a good one, but I can only answer it in one way. People are wired naturally to believe in a higher power, but some are atheists.

It's just this sort of free market, capitalistic society that killed the raping, pillaging and plundering society of the Vikings! >:

VinceZeb

Mar 24th, 2004, 09:54 PM

he didn't dodge 'em. he addressed 'em, but all you can see is the parts where he makes fun of you because you are a self-obsessed fatso freak boy.

I'd pray to God every day that your above-average chest doesn't sag south; it would force people to look at your below-avereage face.

--

Max, I just want you to even come close to countering the points I have made with good, honest debate. I know that will be hard for you and your gaggle of retards to comprehend, but I'm sure one of you will be able to do so.

P.S. Black plastic glasses on a 40+ year old man say only one thing: Art Fag.

mburbank

Mar 25th, 2004, 09:37 AM

"Max, I just want you to even come close to countering the points I have made with good, honest debate. "

Okay, fair enough. What say we choose some other forum where I don't have a fan base. How about Newsfilter? Oh, wait. We did that. You said you'd dress me like sailor moon, by which you apparently meant not showing up for days on end, offering to let me pick a topic and then not responding, changing the topic without mentioning your failure on the previous one, complaining like a hypoglycemic girlscout that I wouldn't adress your new point , and then when I did failing uterrly to counter my rebuttal. Other Newsfilterites were forced to literally BEG to take your place and other people apologized for your terrible showing. Most people were bored and embarassed.

You begged and whined and pleaded like an affection starved mongrel for months for me to debate you, and then you pussed out. Don't remeber it that way? Hardly surprising. That's called denial and it happens after traumatic experiences.

Now you make a joke about traumatic experiences jews have had and how it's made me forget that I'm fat or ugly or don't get the kind of quality sex you do. Or, hey, surprise us all and say something about incest. I'm sure we'll all laugh.

Oh, and glasses say more than one thing. In this case they say grown ups sometimes get astigmatism. It's funny, most things can say more than one thing. The only thing I know of that can say only one thing is you, Subby. "Duuuhhhhh".

Zhukov

Mar 25th, 2004, 10:55 AM

Vince! Show us your above average stomach!

Also, I've changed my mind. Please answer my questions. You can PM me if you don't want to disrupt the jizzing you are giving to Max.

Deciding who should have what is what leads to... communists.
What do yo mean by this? How does it lead to communism?

That is capitalism. It has been shown from time and memorial to be the way human beings are wired to run their economic societies.

If Man is 'wired' to run society with capitalsm, how do you explain the existence of other socio-economic systems? Primitive communism, slavery, feudalism... Where did they come from if Man is naturaly drawn to capitalism?

If your original 'answer' is your final one, then:
People are wired naturally to believe in a higher power, but some are atheists.
By 'wired naturaly', you mean it is in our blood, genes, 'soul' whatever, to beleive in a higher power, correct? I this is the case, how is it that "some are atheists"? Ae they not natural? Have they got their wires crossed?

I expect you not to dodge my points.

AChimp

Mar 25th, 2004, 03:02 PM

Capitalism is relatively new in the grand scheme of things, actually. Of course, Vinth probably believes the world is only 6000 years old...

mburbank

Mar 25th, 2004, 03:03 PM

That has been the gold standard from Time and Memorial.

Time and mmorial, ladies and gentleman. Time and memorial.

What an ultramaroon. What a ta-ra-ra goon-de-ay.

Seriously. Time and memorial.

VinceZeb

Mar 25th, 2004, 10:50 PM

That has been the gold standard from Time and Memorial.

Time and mmorial, ladies and gentleman. Time and memorial.

What an ultramaroon. What a ta-ra-ra goon-de-ay.

Seriously. Time and memorial.

Time and memoriam is the correct phrase. I apologize for tying fast and putting in the wrong word. Would you like to insult me about my misuse of words some more? Like you did in another thread when your dumbfuck artfag ass was proven wrong by a simple trip to dictionary.com land?

AChimp

Mar 25th, 2004, 10:55 PM

Actually, it's "time in memoriam."

But, of course, I'm sure you already knew that. That's why you took the time to correct Max.

sspadowsky

Mar 25th, 2004, 10:59 PM

Dumbass.

"Time immemorial." <-- Type that in at google, and see what you get. Then type in "Time and memorial," or better yet, "Time and memoriam" (I still can't decide which one is funnier), and see what comes up. It's bound to be illuminating, even for a 10-watt bulb such as yourself.

And, as I stated in the other thread, you still used the wrong word. Only you, our dear Vince, could go to goddamn dictionary.com, and post the definitions of that wrong word, which only show everyone why it was the wrong word.

I'm not even gonna tell you what the right one is. I'm want to see if your dyslexic ass ever figures it out.

Miss Modular

Mar 25th, 2004, 11:06 PM

I'd pray to God every day that your above-average chest doesn't sag south; it would force people to look at your below-avereage face.

I feel sorry for the people who have to look at your (likely) below average body.

Zhukov

Mar 25th, 2004, 11:10 PM

Vince, Don't dodge the points you fat arse! Address them! Fatty!

Perndog

Mar 26th, 2004, 02:39 AM

Chimp, "time in memoriam" is just a more popular butchering of the phrase. "In memoriam" means "in memory [of something]" and is frequently used incorrectly in place of "immemorial." Only it sounds smart, so even some educated people use it blithely. Sort of like all those dipshits who say "irregardless" and "I could care less."

"And memoriam" and "and memorial" are just fucking dumb, though.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 08:50 AM

You got me. I've heard and seen a phrase used throughout my life that I liked. It turned out this phrase was wrong. Since I used it without doing a 3-page essay on it, I will suddenly suffer devo and my knuckles will be chaffed from all the dragging they will do.

MM, I wouldn't worry too much about the people that have to look at me every day. Compared to the douche crew of males that populates this message board, I'm fucking Brad Pitt.

But come on max. You were so quick to insult me for my use of perscribed. Turns out, as usual, I was correct and you were a dumbfuck art fag.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:39 AM

You've heard that, have you? See, I thought you over reached and tried to sound all smart when in fact you'd appear a lot less stupid if you just used language you are familliar with or heaven for fend learned something. Oh, I'm sorry, I typed too fast. That sentence is all wrong. It's supposed to say you are pretentious windbag.

I hope you use protction when you're fucking Brad Pitt. He's been around.

"You were so quick to insult me for my use of perscribed. Turns out, as usual, I was correct and you were a dumbfuck art fag."

Sweet Jesus. First of all, 'as usual' is a pretty stupid thing to say becuase as far as language goes you are almost always wrong. After fucking up "Time in Memorial" TWICE without bothering to even look and blaming it on your TYPING without even bothering to look, you think you'd havelearned something. Go and look it up. People DO NOT perscribe to an idea. A doctor perscribes medication.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:43 AM

Max, Max, Max. Did you not see the definition from dictionary.com for the word I used. One of the meanings of this certain word validates my usage.

AChimp

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:44 AM

Pern: :posh

Max: Stole the joke I was going to make about Brad Pitt. :(

Vinth: Still wrong.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:45 AM

One entry found for prescribe.
Main Entry: pre·scribe
Pronunciation: pri-'skrIb
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): pre·scribed; pre·scrib·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin praescribere to write at the beginning, dictate, order, from prae- + scribere to write -- more at SCRIBE
intransitive senses
1 : to lay down a rule : DICTATE
2 [Middle English, from Medieval Latin praescribere, from Latin, to write at the beginning] : to claim a title to something by right of prescription
3 : to write or give medical prescriptions
4 : to become by prescription invalid or unenforceable
transitive senses
1 a : to lay down as a guide, direction, or rule of action : ORDAIN b : to specify with authority
2 : to designate or order the use of as a remedy
- pre·scrib·er noun

I assume you re using the first deffinition. Substitute the word Dictate in the sentence and see if it works. You'll think it does, but that's becuase you can barely speak ENGLISH. As the sentence "One of the meanings of this certain word validates my usage." has shown since 'time and memoriam'

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:47 AM

Here's the thesuaras entry:

Entry Word: prescribe
Function: verb
Text: 1
Synonyms DICTATE, decree, impose, lay down, ordain, set
2 to fix arbitrarily or authoritatively for the sake of order or of a clear understanding <the Constitution prescribes the conditions under which it may be amended>
Synonyms assign, define, lay down
Related Word establish, fix, set, settle; decide, determine; choose, pick out, select

NONE of those work the way you used it.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:49 AM

The word you want is SUBSCRIBE

One entry found for subscribe.
Main Entry: sub·scribe
Pronunciation: s&b-'skrIb
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): sub·scribed; sub·scrib·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin subscribere, literally, to write beneath, from sub- + scribere to write -- more at SCRIBE
transitive senses
1 : to write (one's name) underneath : SIGN
2 a : to sign (as a document) with one's own hand in token of consent or obligation b : to attest by signing c : to pledge (a gift or contribution) by writing one's name with the amount
3 : to assent to : SUPPORT
intransitive senses
1 : to sign one's name to a document
2 a : to give consent or approval to something written by signing <unwilling to subscribe to the agreement> b : to set one's name to a paper in token of promise to give something (as a sum of money); also : to give something in accordance with such a promise c : to enter one's name for a publication or service; also : to receive a periodical or service regularly on order d : to agree to purchase and pay for securities especially of a new offering <subscribed for 1000 shares>
3 : to feel favorably disposed <I subscribe to your sentiments>
synonym see ASSENT
- sub·scrib·er noun

Deffinition three.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:50 AM

Just because one word makes sense inside a sentence, that doesn't mean that you can break out your thesaurus and put in a word that is related. I thought you were a big-time super master of the engrish language, Max. Even you should know that.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:51 AM

And here we go, here are some synomnyms for you.

Synonyms: ASSENT, accede, acquiesce, agree, consent, yes

sspadowsky

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:55 AM

See, that's what I'm takling about. Vince's reading comprehension is so poor that he thought my entire last post was about how badly he fucked up "time immemorial."

Vince, get some help. It's obvious you have problems, but when you take the time to post definitions of a word that PROVE you used it incorrectly, and you still think you're on the money, it's time to see a reading specialist. On the other hand, your mutilation of the language is pretty fucking funny, so keep it up if you wanna.

"Prescribed" isn't the word you want, nor is "perscribes," which isn't a word at all. Come on, Vinny, get the hamster moving in that little noggin of yours. Even you should be able to figure this one out.

EDIT: Dammit, Max, I wanted to see if he could ge it on his own. I guess not, since he stil thinks he's right.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:57 AM

Your original gem like sentence:

"Maybe Zell Miller believes he is stil a Democrat for the simple reason that he believes in the Democratic platforms that Kennedy perscribed to."

That Kennedy laid down a rule to?
That Kennedy Dictated to?
That Kennedy decree, impose, lay down, ordain, set to?

No.

That Kennedy subscribed to?
That Kennedy felt favorably disposed to?
That Kennedy agreed to?
Consented to?

Yes.

But maybe I'm being harsh. Maybe the word 'to' was just becuase you were typing to fast. Even when you look up a word you still can't use it.

AChimp

Mar 26th, 2004, 09:59 AM

I ascribe Vinth's bad grammar to the fact that he's a moron.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:06 AM

Max, if you would gather 100 people from around these fruited plains here and have them look at the usage of the word we are arguing about, there would be one answer...

The usage of the word isn't the most proper, but it's still acceptable.

Just admit no matter how many times you and your ass kissers try and make me look stupid, I am right. The few times I have backed up what I said, I have made you look like a fucking fool.

I can continue this or you can shut up. Either way suits me just fine.

Zhukov

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:19 AM

The few times I have backed up what I said...
You are openly admitting that you don't back up what you say?

While I'm here: Vince, please don't dodge my questions like the fat arse liar that you are, answer them.

sspadowsky

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:20 AM

The usage of the word isn't the most proper, but it's still acceptable.

No, it's not. It means almost exactly the opposite of what you intended. If you want to gather up those 100 people, knock yousrelf out, because I'll bet they'd choose the right word, which is still not "prescirbe."

You will never admit when you're wrong, even when it's right in front of you. You are prideful, Vinth. Isn't that one of those "deadly sin" thingies from that Bible book you "perscribe" to?

Just admit no matter how many times you and your ass kissers try and make me look stupid, I am right. The few times I have backed up what I said, I have made you look like a fucking fool.

"I am right." I love this. Go outside, look up, and say "the sky is plaid" over and over, and you'll be no more right about that than you are about this.

I can continue this or you can shut up. Either way suits me just fine.

Please continue. We're having a ball here. The tragedy is that you don't realize how funny you are.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:42 AM

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:45 AM

Continue.

And while you're continuing if you can remind me of a single time where you backed up anything you've said, I'll consider this day well spent.

Zhukov

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:50 AM

Really Vince, you are the worst right wing/Libertarian leanings person I have ever come across. You are brainless and you would not destroy anyone in a face to face debate. Everything you have ever said is stupid, makes no sense, and is laughed at.

You are the biggest joke of a person I have ever encountered.

sspadowsky

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:50 AM

The sky isn't plaid. If I went out and said that, it would be a lie.

The problem you all have is that you don't have anyone in your life to make you stand up for what you say. I do that. Since you hang around in your own social circles, you never feel the sting of disagreement because your friends' lips are too busy wrapped around your dicks.

Is that so? On what basis do you make that assumption? Have you been following me around, talking to people I know? Hard to believe, since you can't be bothered to research your own goddamn beliefs, let alone anything about anyone else. Maybe there'll be a blurb about me on Newsmax or something, and you can use that as a source.

Do you mean, "stand up for what you say," or "back up what you say"? It's easy to stand up for what you say. It's as simple as saying "I really believe this." Fine. Anyone can do that. It's not special. "Backing up what you say," on the other hand, is more difficult, more admirable, and above all, something that you routinely fail to do. You're a big, lying sack of shit, Vince. You never back up anything you say, ever. Try that, and maybe you'll get some of that admiration and respect you think you have.

I make you look two-faced here. In any kind of open debate where we could go face to face, I would destroy you.

Oh, good heavens. I hope you wouldn't destroy me like you did Max. I'm not sure I could take it. Having someone full of bluster and bombast challenging me to a debate, and then having him puss out and disappear might be more than I can bear.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 10:59 AM

sspadowsky, you are just too cute. It's a shame that your political debate skills should be put to sleep.

I don't have to back up anything I say here. My function on this message board is to state my beliefs that I have because of the facts I have gathered and the beliefs I have. When someone argues against me, I look up what they say and see if it warrents further discussion or research. You do not do the same for me, because it is easier for you to convince yourselves that I am stupid so when you call me "stupid" you can feel better about yourselves.

sspadowsky

Mar 26th, 2004, 11:08 AM

A tip to consider: When you "state your beliefs that you have because of the facts you have gathered and the beliefs that you have" (oh God, that's pricesless). try providing some of those facts. Again, something you routinely fail to do. For example, calling Kerry supporters "neanderthals" only makes you look like a prick, which is already well-established here. But it doesn't prove anything else. And it's certainly not something that can be looked up, which is something else you (almost) never do.

Emu

Mar 26th, 2004, 11:08 AM

I don't have to back up anything I say here. My function on this message board is to state my beliefs that I have because of the facts I have gathered and the beliefs I have.

What? You don't have to back them up because you have facts? That's what we're ASKING for. Facts and evidence.

Zhukov

Mar 26th, 2004, 11:13 AM

How on earth can there be meaningful discussion if people only post their beliefs, without any facts?

Unemployment is at 10%

No, 80%

No, 10%

No, 80%

No, 10%

ETC

davinxtk

Mar 26th, 2004, 11:48 AM

:bestthread

I almost want a piece of this guy, but I think for once I'm having enough fun watching.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:00 PM

I don't need to back up a fucking thing I say. I do so when I want to.

davin, please. Go back to posting pouty art pics of yourself and let the adults talk.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:00 PM

Shh now. Shhhhh. I know you don't have to back uop anythung you say here. I know. Of course you don't.

I just personally think you can't. But you don't have to prove anything to anyone. Shhhh, now.

"The problem you all have is that you don't have anyone in your life to make you stand up for what you say. I do that."
Sspad already made the point tthat you have no idea who we hng round with. Leave the psychic act to Naldo.

Here's a list of people on this board in order of how often I disagree with them, all of whom fulfill the function you ASCRIBE solely to yourself.

Naldo
One and Only
Abcdxzxxx
Bombs
Eyetalian
El Blanco
Pern
Brandon

Some of these guys are fine be me. Some of them I actually like lot. ALL of them, even Naldo, do a MUCH MUCH better job than you of supporting their beliefs and making me think. AL of them support their statements with more intelligence. AL of them or more likely to make a substantiated argument. You are the VERY WORST at conveying your beiefs.

NONE of them are as hysterical as you.

Punching bag? Excellent. Sparring partner? Crap.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:04 PM

The only reason you don't respect a thing I say is because you just don't want to. I could have evidence that shows that I am the President of Guam and you would go on about a misspelling of "President" that I had made.

Just because your artfag buddies pump you up as being smart, that doesn't mean you are. Like I said before, in an open honest debate I could kick your dumb fucking ass all over the place.

sspadowsky

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:07 PM

Just because your artfag buddies pump you up as being smart, that doesn't mean you are. Like I said before, in an open honest debate I could kick your dumb fucking ass all over the place.

Wow, is it time for summer reruns already?

davinxtk

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:13 PM

davin, please. Go back to posting pouty art pics of yourself and let the adults talk.

Oooh, not only can you take an unwieldy stab at my age, but you do a great job of confusing 'straight-faced webcam mugging' with 'pouty art pics'. You've certainly got me on the run!

How can you sit here and persist in the argument that you don't need to back your arguments up with facts? Where did you even construct this catastrophic failure of logic?

Don't dismiss the young'n, all of this teeth have come in and he knows who he is by now. There's nothing to be afraid of, this version can thwart your arguments painlessly without resorting to "fatty fat fat fat" or your ever-so-creative painting of the walls with "artfag".

Bring it on, slut.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:15 PM

"The only reason you don't respect a thing I say is because you just don't want to."

Oh, boo-hoo. Why would I take the time to hear out all those other people and not you? It's because you do a worse job than any of them. I don't even mke fun of half those people. Do you think it's cause you're so good at 'putting out' your ideas? It's because you are laugh riot.

I promise you, if you ever, ever put up evidence that you are the president of Guam, I will honor it. For instance. I think it's great you spoke to people about weight loss. I believe you lost a lot of weight and have insights about the will power it took to do it tht might benefit others. I also enjoyed your aqualung joke. I liked it enough I didn't even notice if there was anything wrong with the gramar.

I'm going to assume you saw a photo of me with glasses. I can only think of one place that's posted. All you got from that is that you think I look like an art fag? Seriously, now, Vinth.

"The only reason you don't respect a thing I say is because you just don't want to."

I think it's prettty clear that decribes you way more than it does me. Be a man.

Zhukov

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:16 PM

double trouble

Zhukov

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:20 PM

The only reason you don't respect a thing I say is because you just don't want to.

This is what you do to me, Vince. Please answer my questions.

You never do, because you have no idea about the subject which I always question you on. You make ignorant remarks and then just ignore any challenge of those remarks.

It would annoy me less if you just said "I dont have to explain myself/back-up/prove anything" rather than just ignore then go off at others for dodging your points.

Maybe even "I don't know" could prove useful to you.

VinceZeb

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:20 PM

What was your question again? Oh yeah..

The reason human beings are wired towards capitalism is because capitalism lets mankind achieve to the fullest of his potential. It's the peak of the mountain top when it comes to human thought.

People chose socialism because they feel that "security" can take place over "freedom" so they chose a system that grants them gifts that they are 1) unable or 2) unwilling to get themselves.

If that is what you asked, there is your answer. If it isnt, I'll answer it later.

Zhukov

Mar 26th, 2004, 12:27 PM

You know perfectly well that the crap you just posted had nothing to do with what I asked you to explain. I'll hold you to answering properly, though. As usual.

mburbank

Mar 26th, 2004, 01:33 PM

It wasn't an answer in any case, it was a statement. You can't say "The reason is becuase" (you only need to say 'is', 'because' is redundant here) and then state a quality of capitalism. There's no causality there.

You can't be 'wired' to do something because of an unsubtantiated claim that that thing is the best thing.

Proof of people being 'wired' to do something would be that this is what they almost always do.

Infants suck becuase they are 'wired' to, and it's demonstrable that almost all of them do. You could argue that violence is 'wired' into people. Arguing that as recent a developemnt as capitalism is 'wired' into people is like saying we're 'wired' to drive cars.

The reason you never actually argue points is you don't even understand what argument is.

All your arguments boil down to: This is the way it is becuase that's the way I think things really are. Humans do all sorts of things that are not the 'peak' of the mountain top. (You knew that the peak is the top of a mountain, right). Aside rom your personal endorsement of capitalism, that statement offers absolutely nothing.

WHEEEE, I'm taking you seriously, dumbo!