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Ronnie Raygun
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:11 PM
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

ARTICLE_ID=38213OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM

Saddam's WMD
have been found
New evidence unveils chemical, biological, nuclear, ballistic arms

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Posted: April 26, 2004
1:36 p.m. Eastern

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By Kenneth R. Timmerman
© 2004 Insight/News World Communications Inc.

New evidence out of Iraq suggests the U.S. effort to track down Saddam Hussein's missing weapons of mass destruction is having better success than is being reported.

Key assertions by the intelligence community widely judged in the media and by critics of President Bush as having been false are turning out to have been true after all.

But this stunning news has received little attention from the major media, and the president's critics continue to insist that "no weapons" have been found.

In virtually every case -- chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missiles -- the United States has found the weapons and the programs that the Iraqi dictator successfully concealed for 12 years from U.N. weapons inspectors.

The Iraq Survey Group, ISG, whose intelligence analysts are managed by Charles Duelfer, a former State Department official and deputy chief of the U.N.-led arms-inspection teams, has found "hundreds of cases of activities that were prohibited" under U.N. Security Council resolutions, a senior administration official tells Insight.

"There is a long list of charges made by the U.S. that have been confirmed, but none of this seems to mean anything because the weapons that were unaccounted for by the United Nations remain unaccounted for."

Both Duelfer and his predecessor, David Kay, reported to Congress that the evidence they had found on the ground in Iraq showed Saddam's regime was in "material violation" of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1441, the last of 17 resolutions that promised "serious consequences" if Iraq did not make a complete disclosure of its weapons programs and dismantle them in a verifiable manner.

The United States cited Iraq's refusal to comply with these demands as one justification for going to war.

Both Duelfer and Kay found Iraq had "a clandestine network of laboratories and safe houses with equipment that was suitable to continuing its prohibited chemical- and biological-weapons [BW] programs," the official said. "They found a prison laboratory where we suspect they tested biological weapons on human subjects."

They found equipment for "uranium-enrichment centrifuges" whose only plausible use was as part of a clandestine nuclear-weapons program. In all these cases, "Iraqi scientists had been told before the war not to declare their activities to the U.N. inspectors," the official said.

But while the president's critics and the media might plausibly hide behind ambiguity and a lack of sensational-looking finds for not reporting some discoveries, in the case of Saddam's ballistic-missile programs they have no excuse for their silence.

"Where were the missiles? We found them," another senior administration official told Insight.

"Saddam Hussein's prohibited missile programs are as close to a slam dunk as you will ever find for violating United Nations resolutions," the first official said. Both senior administration officials spoke to Insight on condition that neither their name nor their agency be identified, but their accounts of what the United States has found in Iraq coincided in every major area.

When former weapons inspector Kay reported to Congress in January that the United States had found "no stockpiles" of forbidden weapons in Iraq, his conclusions made front-page news. But when he detailed what the ISG had found in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence last October, few took notice.

Among Kay's revelations, which officials tell Insight have been amplified in subsequent inspections in recent weeks:


A prison laboratory complex that may have been used for human testing of BW agents and "that Iraqi officials working to prepare the U.N. inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the U.N." Why was Saddam interested in testing biological-warfare agents on humans if he didn't have a biological-weapons program?

"Reference strains" of a wide variety of biological-weapons agents were found beneath the sink in the home of a prominent Iraqi BW scientist. "We thought it was a big deal," a senior administration official said. "But it has been written off [by the press] as a sort of 'starter set.'"

New research on BW-applicable agents, brucella and Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever, and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin that were not declared to the United Nations.

A line of unmanned aerial vehicles, UAVs, or drones, "not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 kilometers [311 miles], 350 kilometers [217 miles] beyond the permissible limit."

"Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited Scud-variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the U.N."

"Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1,000 kilometers [621 miles] -- well beyond the 150-kilometer-range limit [93 miles] imposed by the U.N. Missiles of a 1,000-kilometer range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets throughout the Middle East, including Ankara [Turkey], Cairo [Egypt] and Abu Dhabi [United Arab Emirates]."
In addition, through interviews with Iraqi scientists, seized documents and other evidence, the ISG learned the Iraqi government had made "clandestine attempts between late 1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology related to 1,300-kilometer-range [807 miles] ballistic missiles -- probably the No Dong -- 300-kilometer-range [186 miles] antiship cruise missiles and other prohibited military equipment," Kay reported.

In testimony before Congress on March 30, Duelfer, revealed the ISG had found evidence of a "crash program" to construct new plants capable of making chemical- and biological-warfare agents.

The ISG also found a previously undeclared program to build a "high-speed rail gun," a device apparently designed for testing nuclear-weapons materials. That came in addition to 500 tons of natural uranium stockpiled at Iraq's main declared nuclear site south of Baghdad, which International Atomic Energy Agency spokesman Mark Gwozdecky acknowledged to Insight had been intended for "a clandestine nuclear-weapons program."

In taking apart Iraq's clandestine procurement network, Duelfer said his investigators had discovered that "the primary source of illicit financing for this system was oil smuggling conducted through government-to-government protocols negotiated with neighboring countries [and] from kickback payments made on contracts set up through the U.N. oil-for-food program."

What the president's critics and the media widely have portrayed as the most dramatic failure of the U.S. case against Saddam has been the claimed failure to find "stockpiles" of chemical and biological weapons. But in a June 2003 Washington Post op-ed, former chief U.N. weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus called such criticism "a distortion and a trivialization of a major threat to international peace and security."

The October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate on Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction concluded that Saddam "probably has stocked at least 100 metric tons [MT] and possibly as much as 500 MT of CW [chemical warfare] agents -- much of it added in the last year."

That assessment was based, in part, on conclusions contained in the final report from U.N. weapons inspectors in 1999, which highlighted discrepancies in what the Iraqis reported to the United Nations and the amount of precursor chemicals U.N. arms inspectors could document Iraq had imported but for which it no longer could account.

Until now, Bush's critics say, no stockpiles of CW agents made with those precursors have been found. The snap conclusion they draw is that the administration "lied" to the American people to create a pretext for invading Iraq.

But what are "stockpiles" of CW agents supposed to look like? Was anyone seriously expecting Saddam to have left behind freshly painted warehouses packed with chemical munitions, all neatly laid out in serried rows, with labels written in English?

Or did they think that a captured Saddam would guide U.S. troops to smoking vats full of nerve gas in an abandoned factory?

Stockpiles found

In fact, as recent evidence made public by a former operations officer for the Coalition Provisional Authority's intelligence unit in Iraq shows, some of those stockpiles have been found - not all at once, and not all in nice working order -- but found all the same.

Douglas Hanson was a U.S. Army cavalry reconnaissance officer for 20 years, and a veteran of Gulf War I. He was an atomic demolitions munitions security officer and a nuclear, biological and chemical defense officer. As a civilian analyst in Iraq last summer, he worked for an operations intelligence unit of the CPA in Iraq, and later, with the newly formed Ministry of Science and Technology, which was responsible for finding new, nonlethal employment for Iraqi WMD scientists.

In an interview with Insight and in an article he wrote for the online magazine AmericanThinker.com, Hanson examines reports from U.S. combat units and public information confirming that many of Iraq's CW stockpiles have indeed been found.

Until now, however, journalists have devoted scant attention to this evidence, in part because it contradicts the story line they have been putting forward since the U.S.-led inspections began after the war.

But another reason for the media silence may stem from the seemingly undramatic nature of the "finds" Hanson and others have described. The materials that constitute Saddam's chemical-weapons "stockpiles" look an awful lot like pesticides, which they indeed resemble.

"Pesticides are the key elements in the chemical-agent arena," Hanson says. "In fact, the general pesticide chemical formula (organophosphate) is the 'grandfather' of modern-day nerve agents."

The United Nations was fully aware that Saddam had established his chemical-weapons plants under the guise of a permitted civilian chemical-industry infrastructure. Plants inspected in the early 1990s as CW production facilities had been set up to appear as if they were producing pesticides, or in the case of a giant plant near Fallujah, chlorine, which is used to produce mustard gas.

When coalition forces entered Iraq, "huge warehouses and caches of 'commercial and agricultural' chemicals were seized and painstakingly tested by Army and Marine chemical specialists," Hanson writes. "What was surprising was how quickly the ISG refuted the findings of our ground forces and how silent they have been on the significance of these caches."

Caches of "commercial and agricultural" chemicals don't match the expectation of "stockpiles" of chemical weapons. But, in fact, that is precisely what they are. "At a very minimum," Hanson tells Insight, "they were storing the precursors to restart a chemical-warfare program very quickly."

Kay and Duelfer came to a similar conclusion, telling Congress under oath that Saddam had built new facilities and stockpiled the materials to relaunch production of chemical and biological weapons at a moment's notice. At Karbala, U.S. troops stumbled upon 55-gallon drums of pesticides at what appeared to be a very large "agricultural supply" area, Hanson says. Some of the drums were stored in a "camouflaged bunker complex" that was shown to reporters -- with unpleasant results.

"More than a dozen soldiers, a Knight-Ridder reporter, a CNN cameraman, and two Iraqi POWs came down with symptoms consistent with exposure to a nerve agent," Hanson says. "But later ISG tests resulted in a proclamation of negative, end of story, nothing to see here, etc., and the earlier findings and injuries dissolved into nonexistence. Left unexplained is the small matter of the obvious pains taken to disguise the cache of ostensibly legitimate pesticides. One wonders about the advantage an agricultural-commodities business gains by securing drums of pesticide in camouflaged bunkers 6 feet underground. The 'agricultural site' was also colocated with a military ammunition dump -- evidently nothing more than a coincidence in the eyes of the ISG."

That wasn't the only significant find by coalition troops of probable CW stockpiles, Hanson believes. Near the northern Iraqi town of Bai'ji, where Saddam had built a chemical-weapons plant known to the United States from nearly 12 years of inspections, elements of the 4th Infantry Division found 55-gallon drums containing a substance identified through mass spectrometry analysis as cyclosarin -- a nerve agent.

Nearby were surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles, gas masks and a mobile laboratory that could have been used to mix chemicals at the site.

"Of course, later tests by the experts revealed that these were only the ubiquitous pesticides that everybody was turning up," Hanson says. "It seems Iraqi soldiers were obsessed with keeping ammo dumps insect-free, according to the reading of the evidence now enshrined by the conventional wisdom that 'no WMD stockpiles have been discovered.'"

At Taji -- an Iraqi weapons complex as large as the District of Columbia -- U.S. combat units discovered more "pesticides" stockpiled in specially built containers, smaller in diameter but much longer than the standard 55-gallon drum.

Hanson says he still recalls the military sending digital images of the canisters to his office, where his boss at the Ministry of Science and Technology translated the Arabic-language markings. "They were labeled as pesticides," he says. "Gee, you sure have got a lot of pesticides stored in ammo dumps."

Again, this January, Danish forces found 120-millimeter mortar shells filled with a mysterious liquid that initially tested positive for blister agents. But subsequent tests by the United States disputed that finding.

"If it wasn't a chemical agent, what was it?" Hanson asks. "More pesticides? Dish-washing detergent? From this old soldier's perspective, I gain nothing from putting a liquid in my mortar rounds unless that stuff will do bad things to the enemy."

The discoveries Hanson describes are not dramatic. And that's the problem: Finding real stockpiles in grubby ammo dumps doesn't fit the image the media and the president's critics carefully have fed to the public of what Iraq's weapons ought to look like. A senior administration official who has gone through the intelligence reporting from Iraq as well as the earlier reports from U.N. arms inspectors refers to another well-documented allegation.

"The Iraqis admitted they had made 3.9 tons of VX," a powerful nerve gas, but claimed they had never weaponized it. The U.N. inspectors "felt they had more. But where did it go?" The Iraqis never provided any explanation of what had happened to their VX stockpiles.

What does 3.9 tons of VX look like? "It could fit in one large garage," the official says. Assuming, of course, that Saddam would assemble every bit of VX gas his scientists had produced at a single site, that still amounts to one large garage in an area the size of the state of California.

Senior administration officials stress that the investigation will continue as inspectors comb through millions of pages of documents in Iraq and attempt to interview Iraqi weapons scientists who have been trained all their professional lives to conceal their activities from the outside world.

"The conditions under which the ISG is working are not very conducive," one official said. "But this president wants the truth to come out. This is not an exercise in spinning or censoring."

Pub Lover
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:19 PM
ROTFL :lol ... >:

Ronnie Raygun
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:20 PM
HERE IS MORE!

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,9408190%255E954,00.html

Jordan plot 'aimed to kill 80,000'
Jamal Halaby in Amman
28apr04
THE Al-Qaeda terror network plotted bomb and poison gas attacks against the US embassy and other targets in Jordan, suspects confessed in a videotape broadcast on Jordanian state television yesterday.



A commentator said the plotters hoped to kill 80,000 people.

One of the alleged conspirators, Azmi al-Jayousi, said he was acting on the orders of Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian wanted by the US for allegedly organising terrorists to fight US troops in Iraq on behalf of Al-Qaeda.

US officials have offered a $US10 million ($13.6 million) reward for his capture.









Al-Jayousi, identified as the head of a Jordanian terror cell, said he met al-Zarqawi in neighbouring Iraq to plan the attacks.

The 20-minute taped program, aired yesterday, contained what were described as confessions by the suspects, who were arrested a month ago.

Officials said four terror suspects believed linked to the conspiracy died in a shootout with police in Amman last week.

On the tape a commentator, who was not identified, said the plotters targeted Jordan's secret service, its prime minister's office and the US embassy.

"At least 80,000 people would have been killed," the commentator said.

He said al-Zarqawi "is the terrorist who plotted this operation".

Another Jordanian suspect, car mechanic Hussein Sharif Hussein, was shown saying al-Jayousi asked him to buy vehicles and modify them so that they could crash through gates and walls.

Hussein said al-Jayousi told him the aim was "carrying out the first suicide attack to be launched by Al-Qaeda using chemicals . . . striking at Jordan, its Hashemite (royal family) and launching war on the Crusaders and non-believers".

"I have pledged loyalty to Abu-Musab to fully be obedient and listen to him without discussion," al-Jayousi said in the Jordanian television segment.

He said he first met al-Zarqawi in Afghanistan, where al-Jayousi said he studied explosives, "before Afghanistan fell". Al-Jayousi said he later met al-Zarqawi in Iraq, but was not specific about when.

The videotape also showed still photographs of al-Jayousi and nine other suspects. The commentator said four had been killed in clashes with security forces.

Three of the slain men were identified as Syrians. But Syria has denied Jordanian claims that militants involved in the plot entered Jordan from Syria.

Al-Jayousi said he received about $US170,000 from al-Zarqawi to finance the plot and used part of it to buy 20 tonnes of chemicals.

He did not identify the chemicals, but said they "were enough for all the operations in the Jordanian arena".

Images of what the commentator said were vans filled with blue jugs of chemical explosives were included in the broadcast.

Hussein, the car mechanic, said he met al-Jayousi in 1999 but did not clearly say when the terror plans were laid out.

Al-Jayousi said he and Hussein bought five vehicles, including a truck which was to be filled with explosives and used to attack the intelligence department. At least two vehicles had forged licence plates and car registrations.

Citing unidentified technical experts, the commentator said al-Jayousi had made enough explosives to cause "two explosions – conventional and chemical – which were to have directly affected an area within a 2km radius".

Al-Jayousi said he began making the explosives in a secret lab. Another detained terror suspect, Ahmad Samir, said he had worked in one of the labs for two months.

Airing suspects' confessions before their trial is unusual in Jordan. The move may be an attempt to answer critics who claim the Government has exaggerated the terror danger to justify tightening security.

Officials in Jordan say the kingdom has been repeatedly targeted by Al-Qaeda and other militant groups.

Associated Press

Ronnie Raygun
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:24 PM
AND MORE!!!!!

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040427-070641-9259r.htm

Jordan exposes chemical attack plans

Amman, , Apr. 27 (UPI) -- Jordanian intelligence officials have released a videotaped confession of a planned chemical bomb attack by an al-Qaida suspect.

The tape was aired on national television, featuring a man identified as Azmi al-Jayusi. He claimed he worked for Abu Misaab al-Zarqawi, who the United States says is a senior al-Qaida operative in Iraq.

He said his group in Amman had planned a chemical bomb attack on Jordanian intelligence headquarters, as well as the U.S. embassy and the prime minister's office. The type of gas was not disclosed.

The state broadcast said Jordanian authorities had uncovered the plot and raided a house on April 20 from which the alleged al-Qaida cell was operating.

Police killed four people and arrested six others, including Jayusi.

Reports quoting security officials said the planned attacks could have left as many as 80,000 people dead, the BBC reported.

AChimp
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:37 PM
Hi Ronnie,

What do those last two have to do with the first?

Thanks
- Common Sense

KevinTheOmnivore
Apr 27th, 2004, 08:38 PM
Right, the Jordanian attack that was prevented would've been horrible.

And about Iraq's WMD.....?

Ronnie Raygun
Apr 27th, 2004, 09:02 PM
Well, Jordan is saying that those WMD came from Syria and many believe that Saddam either buried his WMD or gave them to Syria.

It's already been proven that Saddam had the means and could have produced WMD from that "perfume factory" he had set up.

I don't know. I don't think we should stop looking. I do think that if we wouldn't have invaded Iraq these WMD would have never been recovered.

KevinTheOmnivore
Apr 27th, 2004, 09:08 PM
They have yet to be recorded, and regardless, we were promised "stockpiles" by this administration.

I agree that we should certainly keep looking, however, the Iraqi border has only become more open and unstable since the fall of Saddam. Just about anybody could be running weapons between Syria, Iraq, Iran, and wherever. This doesn't mean of course that Saddam had those weapons, it may ironically mean that our invasion enabled these weapons to flow more easily in and out of Iraq.

Ronnie Raygun
Apr 27th, 2004, 09:17 PM
Maybe......but now they aren't in the hands of Saddam and are in the hands of allied forces.

KevinTheOmnivore
Apr 27th, 2004, 09:30 PM
I think you live in your own little world sometimes.

DamnthatDavid
Apr 27th, 2004, 09:31 PM
Well, Time for Operation Syria Ass-kicking.

Ronnie Raygun
Apr 27th, 2004, 09:46 PM
Well Kevin, I think we all do.

KevinTheOmnivore
Apr 27th, 2004, 10:15 PM
zing!

punkgrrrlie10
Apr 27th, 2004, 11:28 PM
i heard they found lipsticks of mass destruction...

El Blanco
Apr 28th, 2004, 12:05 AM
Now, I think the invasion is justified and that we will find the WMD, Ronnie, this is what is called an Iraqi Bigfoot. Why isn't even FOX News reporting this?

the_dudefather
Apr 28th, 2004, 06:51 AM
because the media are taking the popular route in saying the war was unjustified. (bad news is good news, etc)

people seem to want to hear that their goverment is incompatent.

Cosmo Electrolux
Apr 28th, 2004, 08:15 AM
Ronnie,

It's about oil. There are no WMD. Wake the fuck up.

Love,

Cosmo.

mburbank
Apr 28th, 2004, 10:09 AM
Okay, that has to be the weakest chain of causality I have ever seen.

Why don't you do a six degrees of separation chart connecting Al Quaeda with that Japanese Sarin Gas episode. How about the Lincoln Assasination? Can we prove that Iraq did not supply Al Quaeda with time machine?

As to the first article, one kind of has to think that if this were even just the tinyest bit arguable, the administration would hve said something about it. When you find a HUGE story that not even one major media outlet is covering, not even fair and balanced Fox? There's probably a reason.

Stabby
Apr 28th, 2004, 05:02 PM
Well, from that article it seems like all that was "found" was maybes and coulda-beens:

A prison laboratory complex that may have been used for human testing of BW agents

safe houses with equipment that was suitable to continuing its prohibited chemical- and biological-weapons [BW] programs

May have been used for... Equipment that could be suitable for...
Like what, any high school science classroom? An empty space where someone could do chemical tests is not the same as a weapon of mass destruction.

Oh wait, it also mentions something about how they found 55 gallons of agricultural pesticide, which the author claims is the "grandfather of modern-day nerve agents." I have 8 fucking gallons of pestiticde in my garage. Don't tell anyone.

And the fact that if the U.S. found any serious weapons that it wouldn't be reported on in the press. You're telling me if we find one warhead or anything Bush wouldnt give an immediate press conference with a 'told ya so' smirk on his face? Absurd.

But this was written by Kenneth R. Timmerman a man whos books include, "Preachers of Hate" (a book about Islam), "The French Betrayal of America" and "Shakedown: Exposing the Real Jessie Jackson." Sounds like a sensible guy.

Ronnie Raygun
Apr 28th, 2004, 06:38 PM
Hey Stabby, you must have missed the picture of all the WMD that were recovered.

....thanks to the war.

sspadowsky
Apr 28th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Where's the picture? I looked at all three articles and didn't see any WMD pictures. I saw lots of "could have," "up to," and the like, but no photos of "all the WMDs" as you put it.

We all know perfectly well that if the smoking gun had been found, it would be plastered all over the TV as we speak. Busting Al-Qaeda in other countries for attacks that had nothing to do with Iraq's supposed WMDs (which, by the way, is supposed to be why we invaded them) is nice and all.... but your reaction to this just goes to show that the administration can count on suckers like you to keep confusing two separate issues, and treating them as though they were the same thing. Good work, Raygun.

mburbank
Apr 28th, 2004, 08:37 PM
He didn't lie. The WMD were found. In fact, you can see the WMD right there as plain as the nose on your face in the sentence "We found the WMD!" The WMD are sitting there right after the word 'the'.

Hidden in plain site. It's ironic.

ScruU2wice
Apr 28th, 2004, 10:48 PM
hey guys I just found out what Liberals and Conservatives are, in my social studies class :(

Sethomas
Apr 28th, 2004, 10:51 PM
In my history and social science classes, the definition of liberal is diametric to what it is today. I get confused.

ScruU2wice
Apr 28th, 2004, 11:06 PM
oh, maybe I didn't than. It really depends on the defenition of diametric :(

Emu
Apr 29th, 2004, 09:28 AM
Diametric means "opposite of."

Liberal really only means a person who wants to change the status quo. Conservative means someone who doesn't. Simple as that.