Troy

[punkgrrrlie10]

So much hotness all rolled into one movie :)

[Emu]

It's gonna suck. I can't wait. :D

[Jixby Phillips]

my theater will have 4 prints of it :rolleyes

[James]

I HOPE THEY HAND OUT TISSUES BEFORE THE MOVIE :lol

[Matt Harty]

FKING BRAD PIT IS HOT OMFG

[James]

I just read a review for it. Sounds like the opinions will be fairly mixed, depending on attention span and knowledge/interpretation of the original story (it's a very loose adaptation). Something tells me though that since it's so epic in terms of production, it'll be overrated by critics just because of how much was put into it.

[Jeanette X]

How much you want to bet that it won't stay true to Homer, won't be historically accurate and that the sets and costumes will be from the wrong era? >:

(Yes, there is archeological evidence that there really was a city called Troy and really was sacked by the Greeks)

[ArrowX]

Achilles is in it.

Was he in the attack on troy? Im no history buff but it will ba awfully funny when hes stabbed in the heel and drops dead.

[Shostie]

Was he in the attack on troy? Im no history buff but it will ba awfully funny when hes stabbed in the heel and drops dead.


Yup. Achilles was very much apart of the battle. Completely invunerable, except for his heel, which was where he was held as a child when they dipped him into some river, thereby making him essentially invincible.

[James]

Yup. Achilles was very much apart of the battle. Completely invunerable, except for his heel, which was where he was held as a child when they dipped him into some river, thereby making him essentially invincible.

And he's also a homosexual.

Unfortunately, one of the examples of the loose adaptation I was referring to, is that they've basically taken all the mythological elements out of the movie. Achilles isn't so much invulnerable, as he is a really great fighter. And they also apparently made it quite a point to make him not homosexual in the movie.

[Emu]

If he was a homosexual, why did he refuse to fight when Agammemnon took Chryseis from him?

[James]

Probably because of all the sex he has with men?

I've not read the story myself, but in the review, it said that it's been interpreted by even Shakespeare that Achilles and Patroculos were lovers.

[bartman]

How much you want to bet that it won't stay true to Homer, won't be historically accurate and that the sets and costumes will be from the wrong era? >:

inaccurate costumes? I already heard that Brad Pitt wore underwear during filming. :blah

[executioneer]

So much hotness all rolled into one movie :)

when i read this i thought it said "so much HOSTESS all rolled into one movie" and i was going to make a snide comment about twinkies :/

[O71394658]

Wasn't totally bad, but very, very much Hollywood. Pretty much everything was changed...but it was pretty fun to watch.

[VolCanon]

achilles refused to fight cuz u thought agamemnon took HIS loot, after old fatso the king took like 50%.

[Comrade Rocket]

And he's also a homosexual.

All the Greeks were gay

[DamnthatDavid]

Homor wrote about Troy 1000 years after it happened also I belive.

dipped him into some river, thereby making him essentially invincible.

The River Styx, the river which was the boarder to the land of the dead.

All the Greeks were gay

Mostly, only the soilders. And not really gay, more like Hetrosexual.
The leaders encouraged the gayness though, the gay men fought harder for their "boy" then for a leader.

The movie was fine,

[AChimp]

The movie was pretty good, but there were a lot of things that were changed, although that's understandable for a Hollywood movie.

Patroclus doesn't steal Achilles' armour; Achilles gives it to him to use with the warning not to fight the Trojans, only chase them away. Achilles wasn't one of the ones who jumped out of the Trojan Horse in the real story because he had already been killed by Paris. Ajax killed *himself* (rather than get killed by Hector) because the Gods decreed that Odysseus would inherit Achilles' armour. Paris doesn't get to escape Troy because he is killed by Philoctetes, the greatest Greek archer. Menelaus is NOT killed and returns to Sparta with Helen, who decides that she really doesn't love Paris afterall and just wants to go home. Agamemnon isn't killed until he gets back home.

Kinda complicated to relate in a 2.5 hour movie; an accurate portrayal would require a LoTR length film, especially since the actual seige of Troy was supposed to have lasted for 10 years, not a few weeks like it is done in the movie.

Overall, it's entertaining, though. The fight scenes aren't as good as Gladiator, but still near the top.

[Emu]

Also, the way I heard it, Ajax didn't use a warhammer, he just took two big rocks and bashed peoples' heads between them. Which would have been a lot cooler. Also, wasn't Chryseis the preistess girl, who then had to be returned to her father, and Briseis was stolen from Achillies by Agammemnon?


Also, Paris and Hector weren't brothers, were they?

[Jeanette X]

Also, the way I heard it, Ajax didn't use a warhammer, he just took two big rocks and bashed peoples' heads between them. Which would have been a lot cooler.

I though Ajax had a sword that he committed suicide by hurling himself onto?

And Achilles wasn't stabbed in the ankle, he was hit with an arrow in the ankle.

On a side note, I just saw some photos from the movie, and the armor looks relatively accurate. At least that wasn't butchered with the rest of it. >:

[O71394658]

The armor?

The Greeks fought naked. They didn't wear armor.

[Spectre X]

The armor?

The Greeks fought naked. They didn't wear armor.


Yes they did, only they were naked underneath.


You know what I mean.

[AChimp]

The ones who fought naked were the ones who got killed first, so they eventually put it on the "stupid things to do" list.

[executioneer]

YOU FREAKIN NERDS

[DamnthatDavid]

takes one to know one.

The Greeks fought naked. They didn't wear armor.
Only in the Olympics.

[Mockery]

Three of us went to see that movie yesterday and all agreed it was pretty pathetic. The battle scenes were weak as hell. I'm also now convinced that Orlando Bloom can't act for shit.

[Protoclown]

I thought the movie was pretty good. It wasn't spectacular or anything but it was a pretty solid film. I'm okay with the changes they made, as I didn't remember many details from the original mythology anyway, and a lot of them were made for decent reasons. It was a little too "Hollywood" but that's what I expected.

I went into the movie with really low expectations and I was pleasantly surprised.

[Jeanette X]

The armor?

The Greeks fought naked. They didn't wear armor.

Yes they did. >:

http://www.uark.edu/campus-resources/achilles/graphics/bronze%20myc%20armor.gif

Come on. Greek vases aside, do you really think any of those guys would have charged into battle with their dicks flapping in the wind? :blah

[Sethomas]

Maybe he was thinking about the Gauls, who often went into battle wearing only a torque.

[AChimp]

No, I know what Numbers guy was referring to, but I'll be damned if I can remember the exact name right now. There were some Greeks that fought in the nude because they felt it was more honourable, just like with athletics.

In particular there was a phalanx unit comprised entirely of gay lovers sworn to fight to the death and to the last man. They fought in the nude and they all died in one battle.

I SAW IT ON THE LEARNING CHANNEL. >:

[Royal Tenenbaum]

The best part about the Spartans was that if a neighbouring country pleaded them for military help, they'd send one person. So hardcore, yet hilarious.

[Sethomas]

Like midget porn. :/