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Daphne
Jun 5th, 2004, 05:14 PM
President Ronald Reagan dies at age 93

By MARTIN MERZER AND ROBERT A. RANKIN

mmerzer@herald.com


Former President Ronald Reagan died Saturday, and his nation mourned.

Immediate details were scarce, but he apparently succumbed to complications from Alzheimer's disease, the brain malady that long afflicted him but could not dim his sunny disposition or the affection he generated and harvested.

Reagan was 93. He was widely beloved and he was sometimes bewildering and he was greatly respected, even by his rivals. He was, many said, the grandfather of his country. He lived longer than any other U.S. president.

Doctors said Reagan died at his home in the Bel-Air area of Los Angeles, according to reports. Nancy, his wife of 52 years, was believed to be at his side.

In January 2001, 13 years after leaving the White House, Reagan was briefly hospitalized for a broken hip. During the first four days of his hospitalization, his family received more than 8,500 e-mail messages, another indication of his enduring popularity.

When his two terms in office ended in 1988, one poll found that 63 percent of the American public believed he had done a good job. Another poll came in at 68 percent. Both results were among the highest ever recorded for a departing president.

In a handwritten note, Reagan disclosed in 1994 that he suffered from Alzheimer's, an incurable disease that affects 4.5 million Americans, robbing them of their memory and then their independence and sometimes their dignity.

''I now begin the journey that will lead me to the sunset of my life,'' Reagan wrote. ``I know that for America, there will always be a bright dawn ahead.''

Born poor, blessed with a magnetic personality, Reagan led a storybook life that swept him from small-town America to the spotlights of Hollywood's movie studios and the power, prestige and pulpit of the White House.

Elected at the age of 69, he was the nation's 40th president. He maintained a notoriously loose hold on the reins of his government, yet he shaped his times more than all but a few predecessors.

Reagan led the nation into economic recovery -- and a mushrooming national debt. He strengthened the military -- and moved down the path of nuclear disarmament. He reinvigorated the Republican Party -- and resuscitated the conservative movement.

He undermined the Soviet Union with his policies and his rhetoric, and he helped bring about its collapse.

He survived an assassination attempt, and his presidency survived the Iran-contra scandal.

Ronald Reagan left an enormous legacy.

''Over time, he converted much of the country to his own views and values,'' said David Gergen, once Reagan's communications director. ``His more important legacy is how much he changed our minds.''

Though a late bloomer as a politician, Reagan's success stemmed from a combination of rock-hard convictions and monumental personal charm.

Reagan stood for clear, firm principles -- individual liberty, small government, free markets, low taxes, anti-communism, military strength. He presented these views with such selfless, patriotic sincerity that even his critics respected and admired him.

His aides fed him lines on cue cards, but they called him The Great Communicator and he was. His easy, avuncular manner and his warm, husky voice helped persuade people to trust and believe in him, and his message touched many of his fellow citizens.

''I never thought it was my style or the words I used that made a difference,'' Reagan said in his farewell address in 1988. ``It was the content. I wasn't a great communicator, but I communicated great things, and they didn't spring full bloom from my brow, they came from the heart of a great nation -- from our experience, our wisdom, and our belief in the principles that have guided us for two centuries.''

Codenamed ''Rawhide'' by his Secret Service contingent, a ruggedly handsome man who looked as comfortable in a cowboy hat and jeans as in a tuxedo, Reagan exuded that unambiguous brand of optimism so common to his generation, so appealing to the generations that followed.

'The poet called Miss Liberty's torch, `The lamp beside the golden door,' '' Reagan once said. ``Well, that was the entrance to America and it still is. . . .

``The glistening hope of that lamp is still ours. Every promise, every opportunity is still golden in this land. And through that golden door, our children can walk into tomorrow with the knowledge that no one can be denied the promise that is America.''

He knew that promise very well.

Ronald Wilson Reagan was born Feb. 6, 1911, in Tampico, Ill., population 849. His father, John Edward Reagan, was a shoe salesman with a flair for storytelling and an attraction to alcohol. Somewhere along the line, John Reagan began calling his son ''Dutch,'' and the nickname stayed with him.

His mother, Nelle, taught him to read at age 5 and encouraged his interest in theater. He had one brother, Neil, two years older.

A lifelong admirer of heroes, Reagan was heroic himself as a lifeguard at Lowell Park, a recreational area on the Rock River. Over seven summers, he claimed to have saved 77 people from drowning.

He displayed an early knack for politics, winning election as president of his high school student body. The motto beneath the picture in his senior yearbook: ``Life is just one grand sweet song, so start the music.''

An athletic scholarship in swimming and football brought Reagan to nearby Eureka College, where he majored in economics and sociology. This was during the Great Depression. He washed dishes to pay some of the bills.

After graduating in June 1932, Reagan worked as a radio sports announcer in Davenport, Iowa, and then at radio station WHO in Des Moines.

In 1937, he went to Hollywood to cover the Chicago Cubs in spring training. A friend introduced him to an agent, who arranged a screen test. Reagan won a $200-a-week movie contract, and he was on his way.

Among the most notable of his 53 films: Kings Row (his favorite), Brother Rat, Dark Victory, Knute Rockne, All-American and the unfortunately titled Bedtime for Bonzo.

Weak eyesight kept him out of combat in World War II, but he made Army training films while living at home with his actress wife, Jane Wyman.

After giving birth to daughter Maureen in 1941 and adopting son Michael in 1945, Wyman slowly grew distant from Reagan. She divorced him in 1948.

Maureen died in August 2001 after a five-year battle against cancer. She was 60, and she had lobbied on behalf of the victims of Alzheimer's disease.

One reason for the end of Reagan's marriage was his growing immersion in union politics. In 1947, he was elected president of the Screen Actors Guild, a post he held for six terms.

He found the great love of his life, actress Nancy Davis, in 1951 and married her the following year. Daughter Patricia was born in 1952, son Ronald in 1958.

The love shared by Ronald and Nancy Reagan seemed obvious to many, but its depth went unrevealed until the release several years ago of a book of letters written by Reagan to his wife. He once called himself ``the most married man in the world.''

One passage from a letter written in 1963:

``Do you know that when you sleep you curl your fists up under your chin and many mornings when it is barely dawn I lie facing you and looking at you until finally I have to touch you ever so lightly so you won't wake up -- but touch you I must or I'll burst?''

Reagan's union duties placed him at center stage in controversies involving mobsters and communists, and fueled his interest in public affairs.

A Democrat then, he campaigned for Harry S. Truman in 1948. Soon, his political sentiments and affiliations changed, partially through his connection with corporate giant General Electric.

Every Sunday night for years, Reagan hosted GE Theater on television, sometimes starring in its productions. He toured company plants and communities as a GE spokesman, emerging as a champion of conservatism.

A stint as host of the Western TV series Death Valley Days from 1962 to 1964 closed his entertainment career, and he became a national political force on Oct. 27, 1964, when he delivered a 30-minute TV address on behalf of Barry Goldwater's doomed candidacy for president.

''This is the issue of this election,'' he told the audience. ``Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.''

Many may have disagreed with his perspective, but Reagan's eloquence transformed a fading actor into the rising leader of conservatism.

His message was the same he would trumpet the rest of his career: Government had become too big, encroaching on individual freedom. It must be shrunk, taxes cut, business regulations eased. The people must take charge of their destiny.

He rode those themes to a landslide victory over incumbent California Gov. Pat Brown in 1966, and easily retained the office four years later.

In 1968, he traveled to Miami Beach and launched an almost quixotic 11th-hour bid for the GOP presidential nomination. In 1976, a deadly earnest struggle with incumbent President Gerald Ford brought Reagan within an eyelash of his party's top prize.

Finally, in 1980, he defeated George Bush, John Connally and Howard Baker to win the Republican nomination. That autumn, President Jimmy Carter portrayed him as a reckless would-be warrior, but Reagan's genial warmth blunted the attack.

After one Carter broadside during a televised debate, Reagan replied mildly and memorably, more in sorrow than in anger. ''There you go again,'' he said, and the phrase entered the political lexicon.

Reagan won 51 percent of the vote to Carter's 41 percent, and he became the oldest person ever elected president.

''Let us begin an era of national renewal,'' Reagan proclaimed in his first inaugural address. ``We have every right to dream heroic dreams, and after all, why shouldn't we believe that? We are Americans.''

Reagan's presidency almost ended tragically on March 30, 1981, when would-be assassin John Hinckley Jr., a 25-year-old drifter, shot him in the chest. The bullet came to rest an inch from the President's heart.

As his life hung in the balance, Reagan's gallant emergency room wit warmed his countrymen.

To his worried wife:

``Honey, I forgot to duck.''

To the doctors preparing him for surgery:

``Please tell me you're Republicans.''

He survived and went on to dominate his decade as few presidents ever have, sweeping in 1984 to a stunning, 49-state reelection victory over Democrat Walter Mondale.

Highlights of his presidency included his ambitious 1981 tax-and-spending cuts; his appointment of the first woman justice, Sandra Day O'Connor, to the Supreme Court; and his crushing of an air traffic controllers' strike -- he simply outlawed their union.

He also brought an actor's touch to his special gift for ceremony. He embodied America's grief after the Challenger space shuttle disaster in 1986, which killed all seven astronauts aboard.

''We will never forget them,'' he told the nation, 'nor the last time we saw them -- this morning, as they prepared for their journey, and waved goodbye, and `slipped the surly bonds of Earth' to 'touch the face of God.' ''

In 1987, he consoled the nation again, this time during a memorial service in Mayport, near Jacksonville, for 37 sailors killed in the Iraqi missile attack on the USS Stark. This is what he said:

``Because they were heroes, let us not forget this -- that for all the lovely spring and summer days we will never share with them again, for every Thanksgiving and Christmas that will seem empty without them, there will be other moments, too.

'Moments when we see the light of discovery in young eyes, eyes that see for the first time the world around them and know the sweep of history, and wonder: `Why is there such as place as America? And how is it that such a precious gift is mine?' ''

Still, as commander-in-chief, Reagan frequently exhibited machismo.

He sent the World War II battleship New Jersey to shell Lebanon. As Americans still absorbed the deadly 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, he launched the invasion of the Caribbean island of Grenada.

After Libya was caught sponsoring a terrorist attack on Americans in Berlin, he ordered warplanes to bomb Moammar Khadafy's capital city. And he supplied a steady stream of military aid to anti-communists in Central America, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

But Reagan also took risks for peace.

He repeatedly challenged Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev to join him in cutting both powers' nuclear arsenals, eventually succeeding.

And despite widespread skepticism, he stubbornly insisted on pursuing his vision of a shield to protect America from nuclear missiles -- even offering to give Moscow the technology to lower the risk of war.

''A nuclear war can never be won and must never be fought,'' Reagan proclaimed.

The expensive quest for his space shield -- the Strategic Defense Initiative, or ''Star Wars'' -- was scaled back after he left power, but analysts credit his crusade as pivotal in persuading Moscow to end the Cold War.

Reagan's most grave error as president was the Iran-contra affair. It involved repeated sales of weapons to Iran from mid-1985 to late 1986, directly violating his stand against arming nations that sponsor terrorism.

He hoped the arms sales would help free U.S. hostages held in Lebanon by pro-Iranian terrorists, and also might ease relations with Iran, a hostile power. It didn't work.

The other half of the double-barreled scandal involved the diversion of profits from the weapons sales to anti-communist rebels in Nicaragua -- the contras -- despite a law forbidding such aid.

After months of public denial, Reagan admitted in a March 1987 TV address that he tried to swap arms for hostages. He called it ``a mistake.''

He always denied knowledge of the contra connection, and investigations never proved otherwise. Still, the Iran-contra affair seriously wounded his credibility and undermined his second term.

After two full terms, Reagan left the presidency to George Bush, his vice president, in January 1989 -- and he left office with the highest public approval rating, 63 percent in the Gallup Poll, of any departing president since Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Alas, history is another matter and it yields a mixed review.

• Upon taking office, Reagan sharply cut taxes and spending, but by the time he left office, the government was bigger and spent more than ever -- and the national debt had tripled.

• He shepherded the nation out of its worst recession since the 1930s and presided over one of the richest periods of prosperity in history. But he did little to shrink the gap between rich and poor, and many social programs withered during his watch.

• He often was a remote, seemingly disinterested manager of the White House. Early in his second term, when a largely new staff stumbled into Iran-contra, Reagan almost faced impeachment before others led him out of the mess.

''He thought of himself as the leading man, not the producer or the director, and he usually counted on his aides and sometimes on his wife to know what was best for him,'' wrote Lou Cannon, his most authoritative biographer.

``Reagan thought in terms of performance, and those closest to him approached his presidency as if it were a series of productions casting Reagan in the starring role.''

So, in the end, many of his greatest achievements came in the political and symbolic and maybe even spiritual realms.

He led the Republican Party into an era of dominance, as his conservative values reshaped American politics. Democrats could not win the presidency again until Bill Clinton refurbished liberal ideology in 1992 with Reaganesque themes.

He helped restore the power and the majesty of the presidency.

And he re-energized the American spirit, that brash let's-just-get-to-work optimism, after almost 20 years of doldrums from Vietnam, Watergate and economic stagnation.

''Let us renew our determination, our courage and our strength,'' Reagan said during his first inaugural speech. ``And let us renew our faith and our hope. We have every right to dream heroic dreams.''

Former President Ronald Reagan died Saturday, and his nation mourned.


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James
Jun 5th, 2004, 05:23 PM
I honestly thought he was already dead. I guess that was Nixon.

ProfessorCool
Jun 5th, 2004, 05:25 PM
It was going to happen sooner or later, damn shame.

AChimp
Jun 5th, 2004, 06:21 PM
I guess he just made it official after all these years, huh?

Geggy
Jun 5th, 2004, 06:42 PM
i think he forgot to die long time ago/

Trippy
Jun 5th, 2004, 09:17 PM
thats a long ass post, im not reading that...I just got the key point: The old douche died...?

huond
Jun 5th, 2004, 09:29 PM
:lol Seriously, just yesterday i was asking myself when that asshole was going to fucking croak

worst president till our current >:

Lotida
Jun 5th, 2004, 10:22 PM
REST IN PEACE MR. PRESIDENT!! :bow

Rongi
Jun 5th, 2004, 10:23 PM
:lol Seriously, just yesterday i was asking myself when that asshole was going to fucking croak

worst president till our current >:

WORD

eggyolk
Jun 6th, 2004, 12:18 AM
good riddance! :lol

ScruU2wice
Jun 6th, 2004, 12:22 AM
:( :( :(

Skulhedface
Jun 6th, 2004, 12:26 AM
Bearing this in mind, let's see how many of you were born or old enough to recall actual political ways-of-life and how they affected you in the 1980's.

Hah, damn Bush Babies.

McClain
Jun 6th, 2004, 12:56 AM
No shit. Just because you're on a Mockery forum doesn't make your "funny" comments about a dead president funny at all. I bet you couldn't tell me three things about Reagan before tonight. I'm not a fanatic of his by any means, but some of you are ignorant, unfunny fuckers.

ScruU2wice
Jun 6th, 2004, 01:08 AM
I really wouldn't have known anything before 2 weeks ago, aside from he was shot at. In our history class we learned that he played a pivotal role in the end of the cold war, no matter how mucha hardass he was in his later years...

DamnthatDavid
Jun 6th, 2004, 01:10 AM
Reagan was, from what I understand, a decent President.
Better then Bush is now.

And you just got to admire a Movie Star President.

huond
Jun 6th, 2004, 01:33 AM
THREE THINGS:

#1 - Iran-Contra Scandal
#2 - Reaganomics lowered taxes for the rich as much as it raised for the poor (as much as 15%)
#3 - Ignored AIDS until about the end of his 8 years


good enough?

ScruU2wice
Jun 6th, 2004, 01:40 AM
1. HE WAS A HUMAN. LISTS DON'T JUSTIFY BEING AN ASSHOLE ABOUT SOMEONES DEATH...

2. HE WAS A HUMAN. LISTS DON'T JUSTIFY BEING AN ASSHOLE ABOUT SOMEONES DEATH...


>:

ItalianStereotype
Jun 6th, 2004, 01:57 AM
he was also a man of integrity and conviction who hastened the end of the Cold War, amongst other things.

huond and rongi, you should at least respect the man because he's a dead president, otherwise you're just another reason why America is going down the shitter.

Cosmo Electrolux
Jun 6th, 2004, 02:16 AM
I guess he just made it official after all these years, huh?

:lol you made me spit coffee, you stupid simian....:lol

huond
Jun 6th, 2004, 09:29 AM
he was also a man of integrity and conviction who hastened the end of the Cold War, amongst other things.

huond and rongi, you should at least respect the man because he's a dead president, otherwise you're just another reason why America is going down the shitter.

So even though I despised the man in his lifetime I have to all the sudden respect him because he died? Gee willikers, that sure makes sense :rolleyes

Integrity :lol

also, you're saying that if Reagan had lost in '80 and we had Democrats in the whitehouse that the cold war would have never ended and we would still be fighting the soviets now? I'm pretty sure they're were crumbling on their own. I don't think Reagan's little "tear down this wall" speech made them throw everything up in the air and give up. >:

AChimp
Jun 6th, 2004, 11:37 AM
Technically, all Reagan did to "beat" the Soviets was spend them into the ground. They ran out of money, that's all.

I guess you could say that he beat them all, in the end. Beat them all to DEATH. >:

McClain
Jun 6th, 2004, 12:14 PM
How the fuck could you despise him? Up until yesterday when you did an internet search on Reagan you didn't know a damn thing about him. And don't jump on some obscure bandwagon to save face and make people think you had an agenda. Everyone sees through your dipshit visage.
Come one now. Fess up. You thought you'd be cutesy and say something morbidly funny like, "Hahah! ROT IN HELL REAGAN I AM GLAD YOU ARE DEAD!" and all the I-Mockery members would *gasp* then *lol* at your comments about a sacred man!
The truth is you came across looking like a retard and there is no redemption for you now. You have established yourself as an idiot the likeness of Fartinmowler and some of the other assholes whose names I can't remember.
Have fun making posts about PooPoo and writing in all caps.

bartman
Jun 6th, 2004, 12:53 PM
http://www.reelclassics.com/Actors/Reagan/images8/reagan_bedtimebonzo_pic.jpg

http://www.mixedup.com/reagan-ears_jp60.jpg

http://www.wasteoftechnology.com/images/expresidents.jpg

ScruU2wice
Jun 6th, 2004, 01:36 PM
also, you're saying that if Reagan had lost in '80 and we had Democrats in the whitehouse that the cold war would have never ended and we would still be fighting the soviets now? I'm pretty sure they're were crumbling on their own. I don't think Reagan's little "tear down this wall" speech made them throw everything up in the air and give up.

If we gave up on fighting the communists and didn't push for democracy then than who knows what kinda regime might have came over the Soviet nation. You can't just say that something would've happened anyways, because there's no way to proove that everything else would be the same. It's kinda a juvenille look on time but saying that Ronald Reagan had no hand in the downfall of the Soviets is too...

Just because you didn't like the man doesn't mean that you have to like him now that he's dead, just don't disrespect him...

Zebra 3
Jun 6th, 2004, 01:51 PM
I guess he just made it official after all these years, huh?
http://free.one.picturehost.co.uk/DancingBanana.gif - Beauty!

Lotida
Jun 6th, 2004, 02:05 PM
he was also a man of integrity and conviction who hastened the end of the Cold War, amongst other things.

huond and rongi, you should at least respect the man because he's a dead president, otherwise you're just another reason why America is going down the shitter.

Terribly smart comment! I agree completely! :thumbsup

Have some respect people!

Comrade Rocket
Jun 6th, 2004, 05:22 PM
I was looking at some pictures in my grandparents house on easter. And i noticed that there is a picture of my grandpa shaking hands with Regan and i actually found out that they had been good friends when he was a senator.

So his death is going to effect our family :(

ArrowX
Jun 6th, 2004, 05:42 PM
I guess he just made it official after all these years, huh?
:lol

Anonymous
Jun 6th, 2004, 05:44 PM
So by that logic, I'm not allowed to hate Bush after he dies?

ArrowX
Jun 6th, 2004, 05:50 PM
You don't already hate him now :confused

Anonymous
Jun 6th, 2004, 05:52 PM
You're a moron :confused

Jixby Phillips
Jun 6th, 2004, 05:53 PM
MCCLAIN :rolleyes

ArrowX
Jun 6th, 2004, 07:21 PM
You're a moron :confused

Yes. Point being?

ziggytrix
Jun 6th, 2004, 07:46 PM
and all the I-Mockery members would *gasp* then *lol* at your comments about a sacred man!


SACRED?!? The hell... Was I too young in the 80's to hear about him walking on water and saving the world from evil??

It may be in poor taste, but my immediate reaction to the article was "wow, that makes him out to look like a saint".

But he was no saint - he was a human being. One who made some mistakes, and, sure, he did some good things too.

I was too little to understand politics when Reagan was in office, but that should hardly change my opinion based on what I've learned since then. If that were the case, no one could be qualified to talk about things that happened before they were born. Not only is that absurd, but it would put so many history professors and writers out of work. :(

Schimid
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:11 PM
People're always going to make a person look like a saint after they die. No one deserves to be thrown out, especially someone that played such an integral part in so many people's lives.

I'm too young to know too much about him and I'm really not inclined to start looking now, but just because he was out president and represented us and impacted so many lives (for better or for worse), he should be remembered as a great man.

Anonymous
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:13 PM
Do you feel the same way about our current president?

Schimid
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:15 PM
I don't particularly like him, but I would hope that he'd be remembered as a great person when he died, whether he is or not. I'm sure there are some people out there that love and respect him as a person AND as a President and it'd be unfair to portray him as a villain to coming generations.

It's sacrificing honesty for common decency, as far as I'm concerned. :/

Anonymous
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Uh, why? By that logic, Stalin and Hitler should be remembered by their countries as great men.

Schimid
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:22 PM
But from what I've seen, Bush isn't as completely evil as the other two were. I'm not saying that I'm educated enough on Bush to make this assumption but if I were going by what I know right now, he hasn't done what Hitler did.

I'm just not educated enough and I'll admit that, but for the sake of the uneducated we should portray these people as great. Everyone knows Hitler's story, not everyone knows what Bush has done yet. They will, but they haven't yet.

Drew Katsikas
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Drew stops wondering why Schimid never posts in the Politics forum.

Schimid
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:32 PM
You know what? You're right. Reagan was a horrible person and he did nothing but evil in this country, especially after his term. It's a shame the Alzheimers didn't crawl out of his brain and kick him in the nuts first.

soundtest
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:33 PM
he doesn't post there because it sucks.

butttt i'd still have to agree with chojin on this. accepting someone as 'great' and deserving of respect simply because of the position they once held and the fact they are deceased is kinda silly... even moreso if you actually despised their policies/actions while they were amongst the living. haha just kidding i agree with him because hes more on top and vets stick together[/quote]

Schimid
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:35 PM
I understand the opinion and I respect it, it's just not mine. And I'm not saying I WANT him to be shown as a saint, I would just rather him be a saint than a Hitler.

ProfessorCool
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:37 PM
My Mother was a SAINT >:

soundtest
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:37 PM
oh so it's like that then??? I'LL SEE YOU IN MOCK WARS PAL :domo

Rongi
Jun 6th, 2004, 08:47 PM
Terribly smart comment! I agree completely! :thumbsup

Have some respect people!

Sheeeeeeeep

soundtest
Jun 6th, 2004, 09:33 PM
http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/reagan350.gif

Lotida
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:43 PM
Terribly smart comment! I agree completely! :thumbsup

Have some respect people!

Sheeeeeeeep

You're an idiot Rongi.......even for this board!

Rongi
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:44 PM
All I hear is BAAAHH BAAAAH BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH :lol

ProfessorCool
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:45 PM
Bawitdaba da bang a dang diggy diggy diggy said the boogy said up jump the boogy!

Rongi
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air
You better watch out
There may be dogs about
I've looked over Jordan and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.

What do you get for pretending the danger's not real
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes
Now things are really what they seem
No, this is no bad dream.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by
With bright knives he releaseth my soul
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places
He converteth me to lamb cutlets
For lo,m he hath great power and great hunger
When cometh the day we lowly ones
Through quiet reflection and great dedication
Master the art of karate
Lo, we shall rise up
And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water.

Blasting and bubbling I fell on his neck with a scream
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you're told
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.

Lotida
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:48 PM
All I hear is BAAAHH BAAAAH BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH :lol

Then pull out you freaking dolt!!

Rongi
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:50 PM
BAAAH BAAAAAAAAAH BAAAAAAAAAAAAH BAAAAH

I can't understand a word you're saying, Lambchop

ProfessorCool
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:52 PM
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Lotida
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:52 PM
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ProfessorCool
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:52 PM
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ProfessorCool
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:53 PM
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Rongi
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:54 PM
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Jun 6th, 2004, 10:55 PM
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ArrowX
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:57 PM
Uh, why? By that logic, Stalin and Hitler should be remembered by their countries as great men.

I'm not sure about hitler but I know stalin is and was loved to the point of worship by lots of people. Reasons being Drivving his country to turn the tide of WW2 in the eastern front (the ENTIRE)
and also when he was in power the USSR was at the peak of its economic standing. But then theres the downside to Stalin, The great purges, the KGB, and His increadible paranoia. But he was still the most infuental man in his time.

If hitler hadn't caused so many atrocities he would be regarded as one of the greatest men in history. He brought Germany back from the bottom of the barrel after WW1 to the top and then almost took over eurasia. Too bad he was afriggin Jew hating psycho :(

Rongi
Jun 6th, 2004, 10:58 PM
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Jun 6th, 2004, 11:01 PM
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RONALD REAGAN NEVAR 4GET!
:imock [/center:6b09a3cee2]

GO SHED HIS GRACE ON THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Emu
Jun 6th, 2004, 11:48 PM
Sheep is a great song, Rongi :(

ScruU2wice
Jun 7th, 2004, 12:22 AM
Uh, why? By that logic, Stalin and Hitler should be remembered by their countries as great men.

They don't have to be remembered as great men just not disrespected when there dead. Who are you to be the judge of how they are treated after their life expires, I can sympathize with the feeling but i don't think its right.

And Drew I haven't seen you make any massivley unoppinionated comments in the politics forum...

Emu
Jun 7th, 2004, 12:45 AM
Since when does being dead garner respect? It's not like it's anything you have to work for.

Schimid
Jun 7th, 2004, 12:46 AM
Dude, what the fuck happened to you?

ProfessorCool
Jun 7th, 2004, 01:01 AM
Remember when he had no avatar and only made a few apperances like Big Papa Goat. Those were good times.

Skulhedface
Jun 7th, 2004, 01:46 AM
Even if you don't like Reagan, my issue is with these unfunny fucks that think they'll garner an LOL because they said "REGEN BURN IN HELL LOLOL".

...except Rongi, since he does make me lol on most other occasions.

Supafly345
Jun 7th, 2004, 02:29 AM
I actually liked Reagan, a great deal. But most everyone already has made peace with his passing years ago, when his mind died.

Perndog
Jun 7th, 2004, 03:39 AM
Kay-kiokio-hoo
Kay-kio-kio cowboy, cowboy, cowboy,
under the moon.

I was ridin' my horse
by the Rio Grandee
and all o' them coyotes singing
in a prairie symphony.

I was ridin' my horse
down by the Rio Grandee
when I seen me a cowboy, cowboy, cowboy,
ridin' toward me.

Kay-kiokio cowboy
Kay-kiokio-hoo
Kay-kiokio cowboy, cowboy, cowboy,
under the moon.

Dole
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:21 AM
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ONE DOWN, ONE TO GO

glowbelly
Jun 7th, 2004, 07:25 AM
hrm. i'd really like to know what crawled up mcclain's booty in regards to this whole reagan thing. i mean, he's younger than me and all i really remember about reagan is that he looked he would make a nice grandpa and probably smelled like old spice.

maybe that's the point. i know people who are a bit older than me, who were extremely cognizant of reagan's politics when he was the president and THEY HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HIM. i think that most of the people here, as far as age, have no friggin' idea what they are talking about when it comes to witnessing his presidency. oh sure, you knew he was the president, but beyond him looking like a nice man you really had no clue as to what he stood for.

i know i didn't. i just wanted him to buy me a pony.

McClain
Jun 7th, 2004, 10:27 AM
hrm. i'd really like to know what crawled up mcclain's booty in regards to this whole reagan thing. i mean, he's younger than me and all i really remember about reagan is that he looked he would make a nice grandpa and probably smelled like old spice.

I'm too young to remember much about Reagan. I could care less about him personally. But when I said sacred, I meant it. He was a president. Public figures of that stature are considered sacred. Regardless of if he was a shitty president, which he very well might have been, he's still cherished and hallowed.

I'm just doing what I do. Calling people out and trying to make them look stupid. huond is stupid. Look at his blog. He just applied at a local college and mows laws to support his Pokemon collection. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I made my point.

Dole
Jun 7th, 2004, 11:39 AM
By that reckoning Mao, Hitler, Stalin should be considered sacred too.

I don't like people needlessly being nasty about the dead, but nevertheless, I thought the man was a COMPLETE SHIT yesterday (having grown up through the 80s) and my opinion hasnt changed today just cos hes dead.

Him and Thatcher have an awful lot to answer for. I will happily dance for joy the day that old witch dies. I mean it.

Dole
Jun 7th, 2004, 12:17 PM
haha, fantastic..a man after my own heart:

http://www.maggiethatchersdead.co.uk/

ziggytrix
Jun 7th, 2004, 12:58 PM
Damnit! She was hot as hell, too! This sucks. Her music wasn't too bad, either.

Anonymous
Jun 7th, 2004, 01:19 PM
DOLE AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE :<

THE SAME DAMN PAGE :<

James
Jun 7th, 2004, 02:06 PM
Hitler was a great leader. Who else can say that they turned a whole country against a race of people? Only Jesus. So that means Hitler and Jesus are the same.

Mel Gibson should have made The Passion of the Hitler.

McClain
Jun 7th, 2004, 02:11 PM
By that reckoning Mao, Hitler, Stalin should be considered sacred too.


You're missing my point Oley-D. That's not my reasoning. I'm not saying he should be seen that way. All I'm saying is that public perception has him at that status.

huond
Jun 7th, 2004, 04:52 PM
How the fuck could you despise him? Up until yesterday when you did an internet search on Reagan you didn't know a damn thing about him. And don't jump on some obscure bandwagon to save face and make people think you had an agenda. Everyone sees through your dipshit visage.
Come one now. Fess up. You thought you'd be cutesy and say something morbidly funny like, "Hahah! ROT IN HELL REAGAN I AM GLAD YOU ARE DEAD!" and all the I-Mockery members would *gasp* then *lol* at your comments about a sacred man!
The truth is you came across looking like a retard and there is no redemption for you now. You have established yourself as an idiot the likeness of Fartinmowler and some of the other assholes whose names I can't remember.
Have fun making posts about PooPoo and writing in all caps.

Ok, so i guess there is absolutely NO WAY for me to possibly know anything about Ronald Reagan or why I should dislike him and his policies. :rolleyes People simply cannot formulate opinions through facts and knowledge.

He fucked the country not too differently than Bush is today and I don't appreciate him for doing it.

I'm just doing what I do. Calling people out and trying to make them look stupid. huond is stupid. Look at his blog. He just applied at a local college and mows laws to support his Pokemon collection. He doesn't know what he's talking about. I made my point.

The University of Texas is a "local college"?? :lol Pokemon? oh zing bang boom, you got huond good on that one :rolleyes Besides, the blog was a fucking joke.

McClain
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Could you please use more emoticons in your next post? Wanna' be my new bitch?

AChimp
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Just because Reagan died or he had a weird disease, it does not mean that we can't make fun of him. In fact, it only opens up dozens of new doors to areas of possible joke-making, from "Reagan at the Pearly Gates" to "Tom Green humping a dead Reagan."

huond
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Hahah! ROT IN HELL REAGAN I AM GLAD YOU ARE DEAD! :lol >: :) :/ :( :lol

oh man, that mcclains bitch title would be like omg so hilairous omg i bet u :lol everytime you see it

b*tch is such a funnay word u guys :lol:lol

Zebra 3
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:20 PM
http://www.americanphoto.co.jp/photosearch/Previews/PLX072926.jpg

ONE DOWN, ONE TO GO
http://free.one.picturehost.co.uk/MulroneyReagan.jpg

MAKE THAT TWO TO GO

ScruU2wice
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:30 PM
I don't think that Reagan can be compared to Hitler or Mao or anyone else. I mean by all accounts Hitler was a very charismatic leader and had the nazis won WW2 I would think that we would think he is a great leader. I guess this argument can go both ways, so That's why im kinda tired of people referring to Hitler in these types of arguments.

The reason I find it wrong to disrespect the dead is vastly religous and philosophical. I believe in letting the crimes of the dead die with them, I guess I've felt that way since I read the play Antigone... :/

ziggytrix
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:35 PM
OK, well what if we had a scale of 1 to 100 where 1 was Hitler, Pol Pot, or a mass murderer and 100 is Ghandi, Jesus, or sincere philathropist.

Is it fair to compare him on that sort of scale? I mean, as long as we're making value judgements about the goodness of famous people's lives...

But it's not really linear, and intent does matter (and is hard to judge with certainty), so I'm gonna give Ronnie a 63.

McClain
Jun 7th, 2004, 05:47 PM
Huond, Dude... Calm down. You're going to put some of the current board blowhards out of employment with that brand of dictum. You're just proving me right.

And as for Reagan, I don't give two shits about whatever escapades are made of his death. I expect it on this board. I'd just appreciate if they were funny. Like, "His best movie yet will be his appearance in Faces of Death," or

Ronald sits down in the doctors room and notices a frown on the doc's face. "Some bad news, I'm afraid. I'm sorry but you have a brain tumor and only have 3 months to live," said the doctor.
Ronald is devastated. "Is there more, doctor?"
"Yes, I'm afraid there is," replies the doctor. "You have Alzheimer's."
Ronald's face lights up. "Thank God! I was sure I had a brain tumor!"

Lotida
Jun 7th, 2004, 06:53 PM
Maybe some of you should do something to try and make the world a better place instead of just bitching about everything.

Ronald Reagan was a great President and did a lot of great things for this Country. Those of you who admitedly don't know anything about him should STFU!

Thank you....have a great day! :)

Emu
Jun 7th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Does anyone care what Lotida thinks?

Matt Harty
Jun 7th, 2004, 07:39 PM
Those of you who admitedly don't know anything about him should STFU!


:lol

Jixby Phillips
Jun 7th, 2004, 07:58 PM
I wondetr if i can find some faggots in this thread today oh look theres plenty of faggots namced mcclain

Lotida
Jun 7th, 2004, 09:17 PM
Does anyone care what Lotida thinks?

Good comeback smart guy!

I'm confused......are you still trying to fit in or have you been accepted yet?

McClain
Jun 7th, 2004, 09:26 PM
I wondetr if i can find some faggots in this thread today oh look theres plenty of faggots namced mcclain

If I wasn't romantically involved with you I just might get upset about that comment.

Jixby Phillips
Jun 7th, 2004, 10:40 PM
somebody hacked into my acount and said that I *SWEAR*!! :( :(

thebiggameover
Jun 8th, 2004, 12:45 AM
now i'm never gonna get with jodi foster...
:(

Skulhedface
Jun 8th, 2004, 01:41 AM
That's a John Hinckley joke, not a Ronald Reagan joke.

Schimid
Jun 8th, 2004, 06:28 AM
He didn't recall :lol

McClain
Jun 8th, 2004, 09:14 AM
That's a John Hinckley joke, not a Ronald Reagan joke.

Says you.

Buffalo Tom
Jun 8th, 2004, 11:30 AM
I never much cared for the man, and the canonization his personality is going through right now in Western media outlets is making me retch. He was more style than substance.

I do agree, though, if you're going to mock the guy, be funny about it. The only post I've read in this thread that was funny was McClain's joke about Ronnie visiting the doctor. Classic.

Skulhedface
Jun 8th, 2004, 01:58 PM
:edited because this was a stupid joke :(

Mike
Jun 9th, 2004, 01:32 AM
Ronald Reagan was a great President and did a lot of great things for this Country. Those of you who admitedly don't know anything about him should STFU!

Are you aware that Ronald Reagan practically MADE both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden?

Dole
Jun 9th, 2004, 04:08 AM
Are ypu also aware he made Beach Blanket Bingo? That was rubbish. It did have a monkey though.

subterfuge
Jun 9th, 2004, 11:36 PM
Reagan rocked your lame unemployed, uneducated asses.

Rongi
Jun 9th, 2004, 11:39 PM
Says the girl with the misfits avatar

Emu
Jun 9th, 2004, 11:44 PM
Reagan rocked your lame unemployed, uneducated asses.

ROCK ROCK ROCK THE NIGHT
ROCK ROCK ROCK THE NIGHT

GADZOOKS
Jun 9th, 2004, 11:55 PM
They should call it OldTimer's disease :LOHELL!

Spooky
Jun 10th, 2004, 11:30 AM
http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif

Dr. Emmett Brown: Then tell me, "future boy", who is president in the United States in 1985?
Marty McFly: Ronald Reagan.
Dr. Emmett Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor?
[chuckles in disbelief]
Dr. Emmett Brown: Who's Vice President? Jerry Lewis?
Marty McFly: What?
Dr. Emmett Brown: I suppose Jane Wyman is the first lady. And Jack Benny is secretary of the treasury. I've had enough practical jokes for one evening. Good night, future boy.

Jixby Phillips
Jun 10th, 2004, 02:30 PM
Good night, pregnet boy :rolleyes

kellychaos
Jun 10th, 2004, 04:30 PM
He fucked the country not too differently than Bush is today and I don't appreciate him for doing it.


A lot of the things that are biting us in the ass relatively recently (Iraq, Afghanistan, Panama, ect) are, directly or indirectly, a result of the things perpetrated by his administration. Even so, he had a very charismatic television persona and he was an intelligent and believable public speaker. He was kind of hard not to like if you didn't know anything about his policies.

Hobo Renee
Jun 10th, 2004, 05:19 PM
When my mom was in grade school her class took a trip to the California state capitol and she got separated from her class and ended up seeing Reagan walk past her in the hallway. She said that at the time she thought he looked really old and this was about 30 yrs ago. :lol