Philosophy of mockery?

[Demogorgon]

Has anyone ever taken the time aside to logically think of mocking others and the effects it may have? I understand it can have the prime motives of making one feel superior, projection, fun criticization, and a good laugh. But aside from the more carnal attractions, do you think it is better for the world to have more mockers? Does it make you live a fuller life?
I understand most can not part from their mocking ways for a little intellectualization on the topic, but what better place to discuss mockery then I-mockery? Hopefully someone can use moderation.

{I love philosophy, but can't help but laugh at the ignorance all around me in a cynical way.}
(Waiting for someone to completely ignore everything I said to point out a spelling error).

[AChimp]

I'd like to point out that "criticization" is NOT a word in the English language, therefore you suck.

I declare this thread to be OVER. >:

[Anonymous]

And your avatar looks stupid.

[Helm]

Does it make you live a fuller life?

How about a dick? Would you like a dick?

[McMock]

If you mock, you can't be mocked.

What the hell is wrong about taking things seriously? I'm okay with a bit ok mocking when the topic is stupid or unimportant, but to mock a topic that is interesting to talk about, that is a complete waste.

I don't understand it. Well, I do understand it. Like I said above, if you mock, you're on the right side. But I don't do it.

You can tell that people are actively looking for things to make fun of in other peoples posts. How is that fair, and most importantly, how the hell does that make for good conversation?

I know what I prefer to read. It's not yet another dumb joke. It's a serious post. And that doesn't mean the subject is serious, but that the person tries hard to make himself understood.

Basically, I like it when people aren't afraid to say something.

As for what the world would be like without mocking, I really couldn't say. I think mocking will always exist.

[Demogorgon]

AChimp: Called shot
Helm and Chojin: You guys are hilarious...
McMock: If you mock, you are on the right side? How does that make sense? Mocking is more of a test of crude intelligence and rudeness than of being "right".
And yes, this proves most mockers will not or can not remove themselves from jest for some serious discussion. It's like children: "You're dumb" "You're a poophead!" "Hey guys, why do we yell at each other?" "Shutup dumbface!"

[Dole]

There is serious discussion here all time! at least there was till Mr Adventure got banned.

[mburbank]

See, now, if this site was called I-philosiphy, I'd be right with you. Or say if it was a joint called I-holier than thou.

But you're on a golf course saying "All this gold is well and good but are you contributting to the betterment of Candelpin Bowling? have you thought of that, sir?"

Laughter in all it's forms is a worthwhile pursuit in and of itself. Humor is an artform every bit as worthy if not more so than Philsophy which at the amateur level is generally no better than navel gazing and often more self centered than masturbation.

I'm sure the internet is chock full of sites you can go think deep thoughts. In the meantime I respectfully request you put on this Japanese schoolgirl outfit and blow me.








Well, it doesn't hurt to ask!

[FS]

MY LIFE IS A SHAM

[McMock]

Come on. This is the philosophy forum. It's not the 'let's all mock each other in threads with philosophy-flavoured topics' forum.

If you wanna take that golf analogy, you have to make it me, being on a cours where everybody is playing some kind of hybrid golf where they suck the balls around with vaccuums, and I go: "hey, why don't we play some golf instead?"

I mean... a philosophy forum... it's meanth for philosophy, isn't it? No matter if it's on i-mockery or where-ever.

[hawaiian mage]

Yeah, I hear what your saying. Like, with me any way, there's this little convenience store down the road called the "Puget Pantry" (it's called that becuase the store is located on Puget street, haw haw haw.) The other day I decided to bike over to the store and by some candy or something, I wasn't exactly sure what I wanted. I go in there, look around for a while, and eventually find these Klondike bars that aren't actually Klondike bars but cookie-ice cream sandwiches made by Klondike. They have a price tag and it says they are $1.99, I figure they must be pretty good if they charge two dollars for it so I went ahead and got it. I go up to the counter and give him two bucks and then start going through my wallet looking for change.

You know what the cashier does?

He gives me back a penny!

There is NO TAX at the Puget Pantry! When they say their klondike ice cream sandwiches are $1.99 they MEAN their klondike ice cream sandwiches are $1.99! The honesty in their advertising really warmed my heart. Since that encounter I have gone back to the store many times, becuase even if they over charge on their food in order to stay in business, and least they are honest about it.

[Cosmo Electrolux]

hey, check out my avatar. Cool, huh?

[conus]

If you wanna take that golf analogy, you have to make it me, being on a cours where everybody is playing some kind of hybrid golf where they suck the balls around with vaccuums,


That's not a bad idea.






.

[Cosmo Electrolux]

which part? the sucking balls part? I should have known.

[AChimp]

I declared this thread to be over already. >:

Don't make me pull out the bucket of shrimp, dammit. >:

[Mr. Vagiclean]

why can't you people know AND love :tear

[kahljorn]

This IS the philosophy forum, try reading through some of the threads, there's alot of intellectual bullshit smeared on the walls if you just look for it. Don't be so pissy just because yours got targetted for the mockery, starting a thread on here is like gambling, unless you're one of the "In" crowd. Then y ou have nothing to worry about, no matter how stupid you are.

[AChimp]

That's it. >:

http://www.new-agri.co.uk/image/013/fo01a.jpg

There. I hope you're all happy about this. >:

[Demogorgon]

You guys make me smile.

Mburbank: Odd you'd speak of "philosiphy" like you know something... I mean the proper spelling isn't in the forum title... And I see the philosophy section of i-mockery, the two main topics here, your analogy is just 'fucktarded'. Not to mention you then go on about how laughter is an art-form in a near-philosophical manner on 'the golf course'. Damn, you're an idiot.

Achimp: Poor guy isn't getting his way. Just pretend the thread doesn't exist, ok? I promise it won't haunt you.

Kahljorn: If you can organize those thoughts, you may have something really worth reading.

[MLE]

i don't see anything unorganized about kahljorn's post. he has the best point here, and it came across very clearly.

[Royal Tenenbaum]

What a fag. :lol

[FS]

Mburbank: Odd you'd speak of "philosiphy" like you know something... I mean the proper spelling isn't in the forum title... And I see the philosophy section of i-mockery, the two main topics here, your analogy is just 'fucktarded'. Not to mention you then go on about how laughter is an art-form in a near-philosophical manner on 'the golf course'. Damn, you're an idiot.

(Waiting for someone to completely ignore everything I said to point out a spelling error).

Hello, Mad Max.

[kahljorn]

:O yay. MLE supported me.


"(Waiting for someone to completely ignore everything I said to point out a spelling error).

Odd you'd speak of "philosiphy" like you know something... I mean the proper spelling isn't in the forum title..."

FUN TIMES.

[MLE]

i support people who make sense and who aren't being assholes at the time.

[Helm]

Excuse me mister burbank by I am the MODERATOR of the philosophy and/or politics sub-forum and there will be no humour around here!

[Demogorgon]

I'm not Max, but I did steal his word "fucktard".

[Perndog]

hey, check out my avatar. Cool, huh?

DBX! :rock

[The_Rorschach]

Look, Devogorgan, I know you thought you'd swagger in here with your pocket protector all polished and your freshly buffed bifocals glinting, ready to be crowned King of Sweaty-Palmed Intellectualism (a position you're obviously destined for) by the slack jawed, squinting, shit-wits here at the Mock, and it must be a terrible blow to find yourself instead rebuffed by razor-edged witticisms and an irreverent disregard for your paternatural powers of perception, but really you'll find few here receptive to your mewling, limp wristed little trantrums.

Allow me to explain this little disillusionment, as I'm certain sure the Fates have plenty more gnawing, gut wrenching disappointments to shovel your way (or so I sincerely hope).

You, O Rotund and Flabby One, are not quite so important as your Mommy and Daddy think you are. You are not the Mock's Sociological Saviour or Philosophical Redeemer. This board, like the world, doesn't care about you, your views, or your offense at our impious actions against the Natural Scientists of the Modern Day and Dim Past, ergo, bugger off or get with the program you greasy little quat. We've been fine for years without you, and will continue to thrive in your absence.

[kahljorn]

dude, that should be put into a newbie guide and stickied on this forum.

[MLE]

:lol

[Anonymous]

Done and somewhat done!

http://www.i-mockery.net/viewtopic.php?p=258149#258149

[Demogorgon]

There's a difference between asking a question and trying to become the "king of sweaty-palmed philosophy". I never claimed to have any effect, or care much for that matter. I simply pose a question hoping to get a reply that is not a forced insult as is almost everything else. But thank you for describing me as the sterotypical geek and making other assumptions about me, I'm sure you just read my profile right? Or "I am rubber and you are glue...", holds the same potency.
And damn, I havn't even posted much on my view of mocking at all, more of pushing the question. But I am glad to see that you are completely original in your reply by insulting me out of nowhere.

[kahljorn]

I think the answer is clear considering everyone's just mocking you.

[McMock]

Not everyone. I still think posts with content are a whole lot better than lame jokes. Give me thought any day. If I wanted some lame jokes, I'd watch a sitcom. In here, I want philosophy.

Hey, he may be getting mocked now, but at least my man Demogorgon wasn't afraid to actually say something.

[kahljorn]

Nobody on the internet is afraid to say things, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Sethomas]

To take this perfectly seriously, I think the answer is manifest by the words of Nietzsche: Lieber will noch der Mensch das Nichts wollen, als nicht wollen.

[kahljorn]

I tell you: one must still have chaos within one to give birth to a dancing star!

I love him :)

[McMock]

Not afraid of people who are going to punch you in the face, no. But there are other fears, like the fear of losing face in front of people who your respect and the fear of being isolated that are at play here.

[Sethomas]

This is the internet, I mean, ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN!

I hope on thing that happens is that this thread will die.

[McMock]

Well, I pretty much don't care what happens to this thread, but for you, my friend - hell... now I hope it too. Let no man claim that McMock knows no empathy!

Incidentially, here is a picture of a kid with a shit on it's head. I did not want it here, but it followed me all the way from the bus station and aw, isn't it cute though?

http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/images/p-jokes/fake/baby-poo.jpg

I submit that, indeed, it is!

[The_Rorschach]

Actually, Devogorgan, I wasn't describing 'you' -whom I do not know- as much as I was slinging shit at the arrogance from which your statements were composed. You were not 'simply posting a question.' That was the format you assumed, but the implied judgemental tone of your post suggest no small amount of disdain on your part in regards to how we here choose to conduct ourselves.

As though you'd been invited here and your permission and advice was somehow sought out. The reality I tried to remind you of, however, is that you are a guest.

Do not claim impartiality on the topic of 'mocking' either, as one cannot objectify the subjective any more than it is possible to generalize the specific. I dislike semantic quibbling and quite refuse to engage in it. In fact, I think I will forestall it now by clarifying your position as it was stated in your initial post.

"Has anyone ever taken the time aside to logically think of mocking others and the effects it may have?"

Did you perhaps expect us to kowtow before the brilliance of this insight, renting our clothes, weeping, and crying, "Forgive us Lord! We know not what we do!"? Little in human nature is dictated solely by logic. If you were purely logical, you would have no problem with mockery or being mocked, since such remarks possess a purely emotional appeal.

"I understand it can have the prime motives of making one feel superior, projection, fun criticization, and a good laugh."

Your understanding, aside from being incomplete, is also incoherent. I've never felt 'projection', 'fun criticization' or 'a good laugh'. None of these are feelings. Also, Prime is singular. You will rarely find 'Prime Motives' as their declination is out of sync, as any third grade grammar student should be able to attest. To mock a thing, is to expose it to ridicule. Serious inquiries made in a humble fashion are difficult to scorn for lack of material, which if your question had been asked in earnest, you might have discovered for yourself. You'll find most Mockers to be quite reasonable, and over all, very decent individuals - Though I doubt you will, for you seem to have already passed a judgement of your own.

"But aside from the more carnal attractions, do you think it is better for the world to have more mockers?"

The word carnal relates to things of a physical nature, with special emphasis placed upon sexuality. I'm almost certain this isn't the word you meant to use, and on a message board, communicating succinctly is very important, as intonation and body language are not here to help convey your intent. As for the question, I would rather it be a world of Mockers than one of Zealotry.

"Does it make you live a fuller life? "

This question reeks of rhetical origins, as I very much doubt you were seeking insight into the mind of a Mocker, and wished instead to smirkingly reveal what you saw as a purile shortcoming. To possess a critical eye in addition to senses of humour and proportion will, ultimately, lend you a fuller life to lead, so your non-rhetorical answer is yes and your implied insult fails to hit its mark.

"I understand most can not part from their mocking ways for a little intellectualization on the topic, but what better place to discuss mockery then I-mockery?"

How very condescending of you. Are you suggesting residents of this board lack the intellegence, rather than the inclination, to maintain serious and civilized conversation on any range of topics? It certainly seems that way to me.

"Hopefully someone can use moderation."

Check a mirror friend, for you'll find no extremists here. Moderation would be tolerance for those whom express themselves in a different manner than yourself, say, like ignoring a little mockery for the sake of maintaining discourse.

[Helm]

Your understanding, aside from being incomplete, is also incoherent. I've never felt 'projection', 'fun criticization' or 'a good laugh'. None of these are feelings. Also, Prime is singular. You will rarely find 'Prime Motives' as their declination is out of sync, as any third grade grammar student should be able to attest blah blah blah blah blah blah

Man, that was fucking lame. The biochemical states that that other person is trying to describe might not be feelings-in-themselves, but their manifestations are of an emotional nature. Would you perhaps stop being such such a master mocker and see that what he's saying is mostly true: most people here are 'mocking' whichever or whomever just so they can share their pet hates with others, and belong in this internet clique that we've got going on here. You say you've never felt 'projection' but what you're basically doing here is that. Euphoric now that what you know your first post was seen positively many 'vets' you come back to further mock that other guy who wasn't basically saying anything worthy of such glamourous displays.

Most people are here to belong a little. To share stories, and humour and rant and whatever. We just do not claim any moral high ground about it. So shut up already.

[Pub Lover]

:lol @ Rors, & then a little more with Helm.

[ziggytrix]

I came here for the antirave forum, but I stayed for the food forum. Seriously tho, it's not about belonging for me, it's about amusement. I read some fuckin funny shit here sometimes, and on very rare occasion I read something useful and interesting, so why not, eh?

[kahljorn]

FUCK YOU RAVER :( GO OD ON X

[ziggytrix]

you got a good hook-up? pure MDMA? ;)

[mburbank]

Well, moderatortion in all things I guess.

It's the filosofy form at I-Mockery. Anyone who can't take the two together isn't much of a mocker or a filosifer.

[The_Rorschach]

Helm, I'm rather fond of you, and I don't really want to start some pissy internet bitch slapping contest, so I'll simply leave off with explaining my position.

"The biochemical states that that other person is trying to describe might not be feelings-in-themselves, but their manifestations are of an emotional nature."

I disagree.

"You say you've never felt 'projection' but what you're basically doing here is that."

I'm not projecting anything.

"Euphoric now that what you know your first post was seen positively many 'vets' you come back to further mock that other guy who wasn't basically saying anything worthy of such glamourous displays."

Now see this is what I really wanted to address. I'm not sure exactly HOW long I've been here -Ronnie, Burbank, Kevin or CHojin might, but frankly I don't care to keep track- HOWEVER I can say I've been here long enough that I don't need to tongue anybody's arsehole for praise or recognition. Perhaps the last five or six months haven't given you a clue, but I don't spend enough time here for most people to remember me, let alone any misplaced accolades they might have given. The fact you infered as much leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I've never particularly cared for overweened ego, and maybe its my own arrogance, but where I see flames of presumption I feel the need to piss a little reality and bring them down a bit. Maybe I let into him too hard, I have a tendancy to do so, but my replies are written for the intended - Not the inconsequential, like yourself.

[AChimp]

Seriously, why is this thread getting so much attention? Demogorgon is a fucking pussy. He should be banned and this thread should be locked. >:

[kellychaos]

I haven't read the works of too many cutting-edge philosophers who didn't think outside the box (of morrays) of their time or that weren't cynical and mocking of the beliefs of their time. That's not to say that those great thinkers all used the sharp barbs of mockery for their purposes but I don't see mockery and philosophy as being diametrically opposed.

[Helm]

I don't need to tongue anybody's arsehole for praise or recognition.

Tongue my asshole a bit though, will you?

leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Oh come on. Just a little bit.

Helm, I'm rather fond of you, and I don't really want to start some pissy internet bitch slapping contest, so I'll simply leave off with explaining my position.

Bye! Be seeing you. We'll call you when we, uh, see the flames of presumption again. Or when we need a rim-job.

[Demogorgon]

I suppose I was looking for a certain response by asking about mockeries phiosophy. I just want some damned opinion. This thread has become three pages long and the amount of opinions taked up less than a page. We spend so much time bitching at each other over such stupid little affairs and correcting the menial while completely avoiding the matter at hand. I know I'm not that well spoken, nor do I claim to know much at all...

Mockery is often a form of crude criticisation (sp?). Some consider that mocking is only a way of venting your problems upon others and often a 'bully effect'. Others think that through the rigors and sometiems pain of ciricization, we are improved. Can someone be a little on topic please?[/i]

[Zhukov]

Sorry, you've taked up too much time already.

[mburbank]

Oh, laws, you were looking for a philosiphy of the VERB 'mock' as it is practiced at the place 'I-mockery' as opposed to an actual comprehensive philosiphy of the place itself! Why didn't you SAY so. I apologize for my previous shortness. This is soemthing I'd be happy to give you my opinion on.








It is my opinion you are tool.



Now clean out your rice bowl before you give yourself food poisoning.