BUSH WINS!!!!

[Ronnie Raygun]

YES!!! I'M CALLING THIS EARLY!!!!

4 MORE YEARS!!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!!

[Anonymous]

Don't forget that 10 of 11 states call for a ban on gay marriage! That's another thing to be really proud about!

Finally, America's core values are safe! Go team evil!

[Ronnie Raygun]

It must suck to be bitter.....

Cheer up!!

It's not the end of the world..

[Sethomas]

...yet.

[pjalne]

Hey, Ronnie, I thought you were tired of Bush's lies and would never vote for him.

[sspadowsky]

Well, the rabies regained their hold on him, so what are you gonna do?

[Ronnie Raygun]

"rabies"....???

You seem to be at a loss for words...

[Sethomas]

I'd much rather be void of words than void of sanity.

[Ronnie Raygun]

So would I.....but most of the time that isn't the case here at "lib" central thanks to spad and a few others who post here...

[DamnthatDavid]

Lets go NEW AXIS OF EVIL!!!

U.S.A, Mother Russia, Red China!
YEAH!
With Bush to lead us, and alienate all those European dicks, we can become better friends with the real powers of the world.

[Ricky Glue]

Ronnie, wake the fuck up. If you didn't have yur head up yur ass, you might be able to salvage your brain and accept John Kerry as your personal lord and savior. May I kindly remind you that the 2 presidents in the US history who's IQs fell sorely below 100 (imbicil level) were George Bush and George W Bush. They must make you feel smart, Raygun-You dick weed.

[Ronnie Raygun]

W. scored higher on his sat's than Algore and he has an MBA from Harvard....

No matter what you say...Bush wins!! and Dems will fight it because they are sore losers ...AGAIN! but just like before, it will not change the outcome....

Have a good week guys, I'm on vacation...

Cheers!! and enjoy the next four years...

[pjalne]

That IQ thing is bullshit. Bush may be dumb, but noone has ever tested the IQ of all the American presidents. I'm sure Snopes or Straight Dope have covered it.

[Sethomas]

Warren Harding had a low IQ. Bush's is low, too. And 100 is average, not imbecile.

And tauting W's education is pretty stupid, too. I'd love to know how far he'd have got without daddy's help.

[Supafly345]

Baseball fan Ronnie. This isn't the world series, so instead of stomping your feet to queen lyrics, turn back on your TV and wait patiently untill someone actually wins.

John Edwards just declaired their fight for every vote, and this could go on for days. Prepare for a living nightmare if it does.

[Ricky Glue]

Seth-nowhere.

Hey raygun, how does it twist your nipple to know that Bush didn't even get elected the first time? Just curious, or will I get a resounding "LA LA LA!! I'm not listening!"?

[Supafly345]

He did get elected you dumb fuck.

[Ricky Glue]

Check yur info, supafuck. He was APPOINTED! Much different than elected...you dumb fuck.

[Anonymous]

No, he got a supreme court decision for the office, and a concession from Gore. But he most certainly was not elected.

[Supafly345]

Oh yes! I forgot that the electorial college appointed and didn't elect. It woulden't make sense if it did!

[GADZOOKS]

They just reported that is way past Dick Cheney's bedtime time (10 PM)

[Supafly345]

Dammit why did you have to post.

[Anonymous]

The electoral college gave Bush extra points through a decision not made by the people. Ergo, the people did not elect him. The people didn't elect Gore, either.

[Supafly345]

You're right about him not getting elected, my bad. Still doesn't change the fact that the people don't elect.

[Anonymous]

You know what I meant - peoples' votes causing an election to take place.

[Dole]

So if Bush wins, where will the war on terror take the US next? Which country do you think the US will invade? Because its inevitable that will happen.

[FS]

Hi, Fox News! I mean, Ronnie!

[mburbank]

Dole; Although Korea is more dangerous, Iran is a better target since we're right next door. The countdown to war in Iran has alrady begun.

And Naldo, are you premature in everything?

[Spectre X]

when I read the title of this thread and momentarily forgot that it only existed because Naldo is a huge dumb fuck and not because Bush actually won already, I felt queasy. :(

[Dole]

I think Iran is pretty likely too. I know there would be unprecedented civil unrest over here if Blair (or anyone) would try and drag us into another ludicrous war anytime soon - I am presuming the protest in the states would be bigger next time around also.

Max: look out for a documentary (english) series called 'The power of nightmares' about the history of the neo cons and extreme islamists. It might be on bbc america sometime...its incredibly interesting, and totally horrifying also. Its in 3 parts, the third part is on UK TV tonight.

[Ronnie Raygun]

VOTE OR DIE!!!!!

[HNICPantitude]

I concur. Vote or Die says it all.

Senate upsets
Daschle ousted
Our first dozen consecutive years in the house
G-Dub / Cheney - 4 more years
No gay marriage
60 Minutes II being cancelled
Dan Rather getting fired

and I got a raise this morning at work.......

Life couldn't be better.

[DamnthatDavid]

Congratz on the raise dude!

Tis a good time to be alive. :party

[Strapping Young Lad]

it's a better time to be dead.

Where's the shotgun?

[McMock]

This is actually a pretty good strategy for the republicans. In four years time, they should put up that Jeb Bush fellow and start another war, just in time for the elections. Nobody cares about the way you president your country, as long as you put them into the middle of a nasty war come elections.

Anyway, this would never happen in europe.

[mburbank]

Bin Laden's current stated strategy is to bankrupt us, they way they did the soviets.

Republicans will never believe this, because A. Osama Bin Laden is a sack of shit, which is true

and B.) They believe Reagan won the cold war, and go no credit whatsoever to the economic implosion of Russia, much if it caused by Afghanistan, or Gorbachev's noble attempt to allow Russia to change as opposed to initiating the end of the world.

I think Bin Laden's strategy is dead on, and I think we're well on our way. W will be safely out of office long before we are so deep in debt we can no longer function as a country. Republicans will find a way to believe the blame lies with Democrats, who have wielded little or no power for the last for years, will wield less during the next four, and once the Supreme court is packed may well have none at all, see the redistrricting of Texas as a precursor.

America is a pendulum. I had hoped it had swung far enough to the right to begin swinging back, but hope was not enough. I fear strongly though, that by the time the pendulum does begins it's inevitable swing backward, the damage we've done oursel;ves and the world will be truly staggering.

I now begin my countdown to Neocon implosion, which I said months ago I believed would take place if Bush won. Their arrogance which was without precedent before they had a popular victory under their belts will no reach a level of Hubris of the kind Rome knew shortly before it's fall. There will be some here who will think I'll take pleasure in this, and as my character is not so strong as I might like, it's quite possible I will. But in my current moment of clarity, I know there is no pleasure to be taken in the sorrow, death, destruction and betrayal I honestly believe is coming.

For those of you who are younger than I am and think I'm overdoing, tat nothing major will change, that this is simply bitterness and paranoia, we have something in common. We both hope most sincerely you are right about that, and I am wrong.

I ask only that you all, whatever stripe, remeber this time at least what the man said on his way to the white house. He promised to cut the deficit in half. He promised Freedom was on the march. He promised there would be no draft. He said he was a good steward of the environment. He swore he was a friend to the middle class, and that the privitization of Social security would not be a disaster.

The Republican party, who has always enjoyed the role of underdog, now has more centralized consolidated raw power than at any time in my life. For at verty, very least two years, far more probably all four and beyond, the Republicans are responsible for our country. Be honest. Hold them accountable. Never forget, they serve us.

For those of us who are now lesser Americans, don't give up. Our vission of America is valid, the things we believe make America great are in danger and the moment when things seem hopeless is the last time to give up hope. There may come a moment, as it did for my great grandparents in Europe when the best you could do for the future was run with the clothes on your back. That moment has in now way yet arrived.

We're the underdog now. Undeniably. Rush and Ann will ahve to find another song to sing. America loves and underdog. Don't forget it.

Damn. I'll leave this here, but I'm going to give it it's own thread. It made me feel better.

[HickMan]

Great, another four years of my brother (Immortal Goat) bitching in my ear about THE TYRANT. >:

[Ronnie Raygun]

Max, I'm truly sorry you feel so down about it......

I like you want everything to work out for the best.

[Ant10708]

For those of you who are younger than I am and think I'm overdoing, tat nothing major will change, that this is simply bitterness and paranoia, we have something in common. We both hope most sincerely you are right about that, and I am wrong.

I think you are overreacting but who knows. Time shall tell but I think people moving out of the country due to the outcome of the election is a little much.

[ScruU2wice]

Max, I'm truly sorry you feel so down about it......

I like you want everything to work out for the best.

wow that was an amazing reply, cept for the fact that you could careless.

Tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts.

You couldn't give a shit less about what these tax cuts mean to the country. Our school district is going to be in $2 million deficit because they arent' getting money promised by the government, all so we could save around $30 in taxes. and you know who's gonna get blamed for it, the school. Why didn't you guys become NCLB compliant? we were even going to give you $350,000 for it.. Maybe because it would cost our school $750,000 to do it.

I could careless about your values or ideals, Cheney/ bush (in that order) are going rape the country financially, so if you really cared and hoped for the best of the country than you might have voted McCain.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

:lol

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1252218.jpg

[FS]

I can honestly believe that Ronnie wants things to turn out well for everyone.

But I think he cares about 'shutting the other side up' even more.

[ranxer]

divided, divided, divided.. we got a lovely mess to deal with but at least the bush admin has to deal with thier mess in Iraq.. i'm still for bringing the troops home. now more than ever.. as bush has said 'i will never involve our troops in an open ended war.. never use our troops for nation building' the real flip flopper is still in office thanks to fear of gay marraige.. sheesh.. the real october surprise was homophobia.

at least i don't have to retool all my anti-bush literature into something else.. i'm hitting the ground running with old lit haha.

4 more years of the 'warcrime president'

i'm a little mystified about how to talk to the 'christian right' however.

i did a lot of polling of repubs during the election and most of them had three reasons for thier support of W. 1) i like him cause he's for family values 2) he's 'pro-life' (which i read as pro-fetus) 3) um cause i just like him.

its tough to argue with folks that don't have a clue about his policies.. how do you discuss an arguement of memes where facts are thrown out the window for warm and fuzzy gut feelings?

[Zhukov]

I think Ronnie wants things to turn out well just for Americans. But only Americans that 'work hard'.

[AChimp]

I don't think taking tickets counts as working hard. Ronnie should work in a coal mine.

[glowbelly]

:lol really!

my boyfriend breaks his back at his job, sometimes working 60+ hours a week and getting no overtime pay because his boss "can't afford" to pay it and my boyfriend can't afford to be without work.

[AChimp]

I don't care what you say! Unless you're working in a coal mine, you are not working hard. >:

You're either with me, or you're against me. >:

[glowbelly]

aw fuck :'(

[Helm]

So I have to ask this, does this mean the majority of the american voting public told Bush "good job on the war! more of that for 4 years!"? Even though I understand that on foreign policy the two parties aren't different in any substantial way, that's still a litte depressive if you think about it....

[KidneyStone]

Even though I understand that on foreign policy the two parties aren't different in any substantial way
I was under the impression that Bush wanted to stay in Iraq and
Kerry wanted to get out as soon as possible.
If I an wrong yell at me
If I am right isn't that a substantial difference.

[Immortal Goat]

They both want to get us out of the war as soon as they can *supposedly*, but Kerry wanted to try and do it a little quicker than Bush said was possible. Now, we will never know how fast our people could have been home, because Bush has no exit strategy. Insurgents all over the place.

For those of you who voted for Bush, think of this. Many of my friends are in the military fighting a war which Bush offhandedly admitted cannot be won, and therefore cannot end. My friends are risking their lives for your man in the White House. I know that they joined of their own free will, but they didn't expect an unjust war such as the one we are fighting. I want to see my friends come home. Some of them are not yet deployed, and I thank whatever god there is out there that they are not. However, if you believe that this is the right war, then you fucking join the army and fight it. Leave my friends out of it. :fuckyou

[KidneyStone]

read my thread about the war on terror

[Ant10708]

They both want to get us out of the war as soon as they can *supposedly*, but Kerry wanted to try and do it a little quicker than Bush said was possible. Now, we will never know how fast our people could have been home, because Bush has no exit strategy. Insurgents all over the place.

For those of you who voted for Bush, think of this. Many of my friends are in the military fighting a war which Bush offhandedly admitted cannot be won, and therefore cannot end. My friends are risking their lives for your man in the White House. I know that they joined of their own free will, but they didn't expect an unjust war such as the one we are fighting. I want to see my friends come home. Some of them are not yet deployed, and I thank whatever god there is out there that they are not. However, if you believe that this is the right war, then you fucking join the army and fight it. Leave my friends out of it. :fuckyou The majority of the military supports Bush so maybe your friends should just get out as soon as they can.

[sspadowsky]

We are at war with Iraq. We have always been at war with Iraq.

[Immortal Goat]

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Nice reference, Sspad.

[Perndog]

Sspad is exempt from being cliche in this instance for using a much less nauseatingly cliche line from the book.

But in almost any other case, no matter how appropriate 1984 references may seem or actually be, they have already been BLOODY OVERUSED.

[Perndog]

Sspad is exempt from being cliche in this instance for using a much less nauseatingly familiar line from the book.

But in almost any other case, no matter how appropriate 1984 references may seem or actually be, they have already been BLOODY OVERUSED.

[Immortal Goat]

I haven't seen any. It may be cliche, but it is appropriate.

[FS]

Four legs good. Two legs better.

[MrAdventure]

some president!!!