White Power Punk Rock

[Miss Modular]

Isn't this an oxymoron?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6542890/site/newsweek/

The Hot Sound of Hate
A fast-growing CD outfit hawks white power at school

By Sarah Childress and Dirk Johnson
Newsweek

Nov. 29 issue - In a cramped upstairs den in South St. Paul, Minn., a CD blares with fury. "Hang the traitors of our race," the singer screams, "White supremacy! White supremacy! Whiiiite supremacy!" Byron Calvert, 33, leans back in his chair, smiling and snacking on veggies. Calvert is a mountainous man with a swastika tattoo, a prison record and a racist dream. He runs Panzerfaust Records, a five-year-old company that has quickly become one of the top "white power" record labels in the country. Hundreds of bands in America and Europe produce such hate music. If Calvert has his way, their fans will soon be multiplying. In September he launched Project Schoolyard, a plan to snag kids 13 to 19 by distributing 100,000 free CDs of such bands as Day of the Sword, H8 Machine and Final War. Calvert cares less about the melody than the message. "We hook 'em with the music," he says, and then kids learn—and buy—more online. As his Web site declares, "We don't just entertain racist kids, we create them!"

To Calvert, the mission is nothing less than survival of the white race, and it's helped the label succeed and likely surpass its influential rival, Resistance Records. Though Calvert's reluctant to give numbers, watchdog groups estimate that Panzerfaust pulls in about $1 million a year.

The white-power movement is looking for young people like Tom Lindstrom, a 22-year-old tile layer from West St. Paul. He first heard the furious music three years ago, and it made him glow. He realized there were angry kids like him—angry at blacks, Jews, homosexuals, immigrants. "There's a general plague of anti-whiteness going on in this country," he says. "When I heard the white-power rock, I thought, 'Right on!' " Calvert says America is full of p---ed-off white kids sick of having multiculturalism stuffed down their throats, and resentful of gangsta rappers who rip on white boys like them. "You can be black and racist and have an illustrious career. If you're white and racist, you might end up going to jail."

The CDs have started to find their way into schools in smaller towns around the country. In rural Madison, W.Va., a pair of twentysomething kids clad in black silently handed out CDs to middle- and high-school students as they stepped off their buses one morning. When school officials learned what had happened, they asked kids to hand in the discs. Lauren Snyder, 13, was insulted that racists had targeted her county, like a lot of kids she knows. Still, she says many kids still played the CD at home out of curiosity. The discs have alarmed organizations that monitor hate groups. Project Schoolyard is especially dangerous because it poses as mainstream music, says Daniel Alter, director of civil rights at the Anti-Defamation League. "The kids go right for the music, and the lyrics, at first, are almost secondary," he says. "It's a very insidious way of indoctrinating kids into a whole lifestyle." Watchdog groups agree they've never seen white supremacists make such a targeted recruiting effort. The group Citizens Against Hate is working feverishly to combat the music's spread by alerting school officials and law enforcement around the country through their program, Project Hands-Off.

Experts say most kids who heed the music's message feel alienated from mainstream culture, unsure about their future or place in society. White-power rock groups seize on their insecurities, and make them feel that they're worthy—indeed, superior—simply because their skin is white.

Wendy, 22, works long hours as a housecleaner. All her life, she's preferred to hang out with other white kids. "I'm not as radical as you think I am," she says softly, tucking a strand of platinum-blond hair behind her ear. "I'm white, I'm proud to be white and I don't think there's anything wrong with that." She goes to white-power rock shows. But she seems conflicted, talking about an Indian friend and a mixed-race friend. "They know deep in their hearts that I love them for who they are," she says. But if Smith gets drawn deeply enough into the white-power movement, Calvert and other racist promoters are betting she'll change her tune.

[AChimp]

Punk sucks anyways, so the jokes on them. :lol

[Big Papa Goat]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/BigPapaGoat/Grishnack.bmp

[Cosmo Electrolux]

Varg stabbed a guy in the head for being a inferior musician (his words, not mine).

[Perndog]

Yeah, how could Burzum possibly have anything to do with Nazi punk rockers in the Midwest USA?

[The One and Only...]

Well, one of Burzum's former members is now a neo-nazi leader...

Black metal is where the real movement is at.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Have you renewed your membership yet?

[Emu]

:lol

[punkgrrrlie10]

I never understood how melanin deficiency makes one superior.

[Emu]

It's the lattitude of your ancestral birthplace that makes you superior. Earth is built like a chart, see.

If the North Pole is here -----------------------------

If Europe is up here -----------------------------

and the Middle East is here -------------------------

And Africa starts about here ------------------


And the south pole is down here somewhere-------------


Logically, whoever lives in the northernmost part of Scandanavia should be the superior race.

[punkgrrrlie10]

So what you're saying is Aussies are the lowest form of life on the planet?

[AChimp]

Basically, yeah. :/

[punkgrrrlie10]

But aren't they the whiteys too?

[Emu]

Didn't you see Crocodile Dundee Comes to America? It was like a live action Jetsons Meet the Flintstones.

[Stabby]

I'm holding out for white power emo.

[El Blanco]

Some pussy crying he lost his girlfriend to a black guy?


And does anyone want to tell these guys rock is pretty much just jazz evolved?

[Perndog]

There's nothing left of jazz in punk rock.

Rock and roll, yes. Punk, no. Punk may be a warped offshoot of the same family tree, but it's long since divested itself of everything related to jazz and blues.

[Ninjavenom]

The guitar is non-arayan in origin. They can't even be bigots right.

[Bobo Adobo]

There's nothing left of jazz in punk rock.

Rock and roll, yes. Punk, no. Punk may be a warped offshoot of the same family tree, but it's long since divested itself of everything related to jazz and blues.


I wouldn't say that. 99.9% of todays popular music, including punk, can be traced back to jazz and blues. Alot of punk songs use the 1-4-5 chord progression, with was originated in blues music.

[GADZOOKS]

Didn't you see Crocodile Dundee Comes to America? It was like a live action Jetsons Meet the Flintstones.

:lol couldnt say it better myself

[Cosmo Electrolux]

Yeah, how could Burzum possibly have anything to do with Nazi punk rockers in the Midwest USA?

Who knows....I read somewhere that Varg managed to escape from prison for a few hours....they caught him in a stolen car trying to cross the border.....just to change the subject :) :threadhijack

[Perndog]

the 1-4-5 chord progression, with was originated in blues music.

:lol

Yeah, you know, no one ever heard of I-IV-V until some blues guy in the early 20th century thought it up. All that so-called "classical" music uses different kinds of harmony, and none of those treatises on harmony written four hundred years ago had even a hint of this newfangled I-IV-V thing.

Retard.

[Big Papa Goat]

www.anus.com :eek

[Bobo Adobo]

Yeah, you know, no one ever heard of I-IV-V until some blues guy in the early 20th century thought it up.

No, some blues guy thought up the use of the repetitive I-IV-V chord progression in the late 19th century. Name me a classical period composer that used the I-IV-V chord progression repetively, or even a romantic period composer.

Retard.

[Helm]

National Socialist Black Metal (http://www.nsbm.org) is indeed a more niche, but more funny take on the same thing.

I say, give the schoolchildren these cds. Let them hear them. Every political oppinion has the right to be spread via propaganda. If nihilist punk was ok, so is racial hate music. I don't think it's a big deal. Now if a child decided to go white power aryan punk due to a (soddy, badly produced, boring) free cd, then I think the problem is that this kid is a moron.

[Cosmo Electrolux]

Well said....it's like the "black metal makes you a satanist" histeria from the 80's....

[Perndog]

Repeated chord progressions have been around for centuries, chief. There are children's songs from the Renaissance that are I-IV-V over and over again.

Unless you mean the 12-bar I-IV-V from blues.

Which is...gosh...not present in punk rock!

[mburbank]

See, now, this is why I hate music.

Sure, at first it's just a tune, but then it's somebody telling somebody something and then they have no choice but to believe it. And it's not just 'Styx' and 'Rush' I'm talking about either.

I think it should all be banned, or at least strictly regulated.

[The One and Only...]

Have you renewed your membership yet?

Ok, what is up the whole "Jack/OAO = Rascist" thing?

I mean, have I ever said anything even close to being rascist on here?

You're talking to a kid who is reading Nelson Mandela's A Long Walk to Freedom and just finished Maya Angelou's I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings.

[Cosmo Electrolux]

shut up, you racist fuck.... >:

[Perndog]

I thought Why the Caged Bird Sings was horrendously boring and pointless.

Maybe I'm a racist too! :eek

[Bobo Adobo]

There are children's songs from the Renaissance that are I-IV-V over and over again.


And those songs are...

"Unless you mean the 12-bar I-IV-V from blues.

Which is...gosh...not present in punk rock!"

"Bliztkreig Bop" ring a bell? I find it funny how you think punk rock is so innovative in its own right, but then state that the main chord progression used in blues/rock/gospel music was already in use hundreds of years ago. Even if that was true, give me a punk rocker that gives a shit about any music that came before 1965.

"See, now, this is why I hate music.

Sure, at first it's just a tune, but then it's somebody telling somebody something and then they have no choice but to believe it."

Thats why you don't listen to people who professionally call themselves "critics".

[Perndog]

I never said punk rock was original or that I liked it, and I was talking about new music, not the Ramones. The Ramones had at least some roots in rock and roll.

[punkgrrrlie10]

give me a punk rocker that gives a shit about any music that came before 1965.


uhhhhhhhhhhhhh........ >:

[kellychaos]

Calvert is a mountainous man with a swastika tattoo, a prison record and a racist dream.

Now there's a real shocker.

[adept_ninja]

I hate I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings with a passion. I want to kill maya. Im not saying she desreved to be raped...but she did have it coming. I speak the truth.

[Miss Modular]

I posted this because I was reminded of a Geraldo episode I saw back in the early '90s with the teenagers who were white supremacists. I remember one of the teenage girls saying something to the effect that "We don't hate black people...we just want to save the white race from going extinct."

Besides, being "white" is boring.

[mburbank]

Wow, OAO, you read those books? That's so... so bold and forward thinking of you. I'm having a vision of a big black hand shaking a big white hand. I feel a song coming on...

"The ink is black
The page is white
together they learn to read and write!"

Oh, wait, no, wait!

"Ebony and Ivory
live together in perfect harmony
side by side on my piano
la la la la la etc!"

if only everyone would would join a book club with OAO and read "A Rasin in the Sun!"

[kellychaos]

Only if he's there to explain the big words. I get stuck sometimes. :(

I'm thinkin' most of his "books" come in brown paper wrappers. Am I right, guys?

[Anonymous]

Max took the words out of my mouf ;<

[The One and Only...]

I think you're missing the point, Max. Why would I choose to read Nelson Mandela's autobiography if I'm a rascist? Since I'm inevitably going to have to write a positive review of Mandela's activities, it would be rather asinine for me to read it if I'm a rascist.

I'm not saying a champion among equal rights activists, but give me some credit.

[Helm]

Why would I choose to read Nelson Mandela's autobiography if I'm a rascist? Since I'm inevitably going to have to write a positive review of Mandela's activities,

A racist might read this biography so he can know his enemy. And if you're 'inevitably' going to write a positive review of anything, you're an idiot.

[The One and Only...]

It's for school, and I'm reading it for a liberal teacher. In this case, a positive review is pretty much taken for granted.

However, there was a plurality of books that could have been selected from, so it would be unfair to say that I had to read that account without any other choice.

To know my enemy? Would a self-portrayal of Nelson Mandela really be all that useful in achieving rascist ends? I'm doubtful. A racist would be more likely to figure out ways to create propaganda.

[Big McLargehuge]

I read Ayn Rand once, i still hate objectivists

[Anonymous]

It's good that OAO is giving these accusations the serious point-counterpoint debate that it deserves.

[The One and Only...]

Yes, but why would someone as educated as myself believe in rascism?

[Big McLargehuge]

Ha, ha

[Big McLargehuge]

What i mean to say is that you have clearly demonstrated that despite being "educated" you are still just a stupid little kid.

[The One and Only...]

Choj: lol.

Gotta love sarcasm. I've met enough people who've never heard of it, so someone does.

[Helm]

Stop being naive. There are many educated (also, not stupid) people that choose to be racists and have legitimate points of view. I might not agree with them, most of the time, but logical arguments can and have been presented.

[The One and Only...]

Yet don't you suspect that racism is less frequent among more educated groups?

Anyway, I think this thread has devolved away from its intent.

[Big Papa Goat]

Stop being naive. There are many educated (also, not stupid) people that choose to be racists and have legitimate points of view. I might not agree with them, most of the time, but logical arguments can and have been presented.
www.anus.com
:rolleyes

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Have you renewed your membership yet?

Ok, what is up the whole "Jack/OAO = Rascist" thing?

I mean, have I ever said anything even close to being rascist on here?

You're talking to a kid who is reading Nelson Mandela's A Long Walk to Freedom and just finished Maya Angelou's I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings.

Lighten up, champ.

BTW, do you also like jazz music?

[Mr. Oysterhead]

Wouldn't racism have more to do with insecurity rather than intelligence?

[The One and Only...]

BTW, do you also like jazz music?

Somewhat ironically, I do occassionally listen to jazz, albeit I'm hardly an avid fan and I usually listen to Cowboy Bebop jazz.

[MLE]

good god, shut up and try to repair your social life.


but then again that would imply you had one at one point.

[kellychaos]

Wouldn't racism have more to do with insecurity rather than intelligence?

I think that's a combination of your environment and genetics. Some people are predisposed to hate and some biased parent and/or life experience gives them their target.

[Big Papa Goat]

lol @ racism being genetic

[kellychaos]

I mispoke. I meant that I believe that a tendency toward violence is genetic and their environment in which they grew up in gives them the target to express their anger.

[thebiggameover]

I'm holding out for white power emo.

no way. its all about white power rap...

[derrida]

skrewdriver's first album was pretty good.

[GAsux]

Is this supposed to be a new phenom? What, skin head punk rockers? Making music? When did THAT happen?

[Neurotic monkey]

I thought Why the Caged Bird Sings was horrendously boring and pointless.

Maybe I'm a racist too! :eek

That book sucked. OH LOOK AT ME!!! I HAVE A DEEP VOICE, SO I MUST BE A LESBIAN! I AM GONNA FUCK MY NEIGHBOR NOW!!!

[Zhukov]

skrewdriver's first album was pretty good.

I prefer jewdriver.