your opinion of nintendo today

[evil_helllizard]

what do you think of the stuff nintendo has now, any better then the classic nintendo games?

[Krythor]

I'd like to direct you to the games forum :)
With that said...
No, but it's not too far off either. With the exception of the few minor quirks the PS2 and X-box have, I STILL think Nintendo is on top, and the gaming industry owes them everything anyway..there's not much competition, and I try to ignore the fooks who's argument against Nintendo seems to be "OMG STFU NINTENDO IS FOR 6 YEAR OLDS AND POSSIBLY NERDS TOO".

[Captain Robo]

Nintendo has been spit upon by the hordes of X-Boxing, Next-gen gamers who would rather have brainless shooting games than the "baby" games Nintendo makes that actually have stories. If those people could really get into a game instead of blowing it up, they'd see that Nintendo games are pure gold :( :tear.

But, to answer your question, Nintendo was better in the 8-Bit days when it ruled the market.

It's his first post... he just went to the first forum he saw...

[GnrySgtHartman]

I AGHRE WIT TEH POST ABUV ME

[Misinformation Man]

DID YOU KNOW:

Before going into the video game business, Nintendo was the leading organized business in the slave trade. They changed their business when it was discovered that black people weren't of any use in Japan, since they have robots to do all their work.

[Jixby Phillips]

DID YOU KNOW:

THERE IS A GAMING FORUM???

[Captain Robo]

Help us Dr. Boogie!

Before Nintendo was involved with the slave trade, they made Playing Cards for all the Westerners in the 1800's :eek

[evil_helllizard]

what do you guys think of Pokemon? any good?

[soundtest]

IMO I think Nintendo is pretty anti-innovation these days. Metroid Prime looks amazing, but Nintendo itself had little to do with it. Their 'wait and see if somebody else makes money off it' approach to online gaming and their scam of re-releasing the entire SNES library on GBA as 'new' games is pretty weak (don't get me wrong, I love the games - but I paid for many of them 10 years ago. if anything they should be budget priced). Hopefully this will change and they will start producing great NEW games like they used to in the 8/16 bit days.

[James]

Don't forget eReader cards. Buy the GBA, the GBA card scanner, and $5-$10 per card to scan in an old NES game to play on your GBA.

[soundtest]

Totally - I've always wanted companies to re-release older titles in some form, but if it has to be like that I'll happy stick with emulators. And what the hell is stopping them from having an online GBA? Fuck this link cable shit - I wanna play online. If Nintendo doesn't stop being so passive the next huge handheld will be made by Nokia :/

[CrapOnAStick]

If online Metroid isn't made in some way, I'll stomp on every infant I see >:

[Helm]

An online platform game, especially exploration-based like Metroid would be very difficult to pull of decently. The mechanics would have to be tweaked to hell. I'm not gonna blame nintendo if they don't take your retarded suggestion. I am, however going to tell you to shut the fuck up for voicing it.

[CrapOnAStick]

An online platform game, especially exploration-based like Metroid would be very difficult to pull of decently. The mechanics would have to be tweaked to hell. I'm not gonna blame nintendo if they don't take your retarded suggestion. I am, however going to tell you to shut the fuck up for voicing it.

I kinda meant GBA :/

[soundtest]

Actually, Metroid Prime 2 (working title) is supposed to have a multiplayer element to it.

[CrapOnAStick]

Actually, Metroid Prime 2 (working title) is supposed to have a multiplayer element to it.

I'm curious as to how that would work. Same for Splinter Cell 2. :/

[soundtest]

I'm guessing it'll be just a death match option and not have anything to do with the actual story.

[Les Waste]

I'm beginning to think Nintendo will NEVER make an online game :(

Like someone said in the SSBM thread, an online SSBM with mics would be the most awesome thing ever. But like soundtest said, Nintendo will never do it because they're the most uncreative bastards ever.

OH LOOK MARIO IS WALKING AROUND IN 3-D AGAIN AND HE'S SOLVING MYSTERIES AND COLLECTING COINS THIS GAME IS SURE FUN BUT HAVEN'T I DONE IT AT LEAST SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE?!

:(

[James]

Jumping into 3D was the most creative thing Nintendo's done. Everything else is just money-grubbing bullshit. They don't even try to be innovative and give people a real reason to buy their shit. Their tactics are similar to that of a car salesman.

"Well, you can get Legend of Zelda for Gamecube, but you're also going to want a GBA if you want to fully experience everything the game has to offer. That also means to need the adapter for that. And if you're going to get a GBA, you might as well get some games for it, like Super Mario Advance or Super Mario Advance 2. Oh, get Metroid Fusion too, which also links up to Metroid Prime. So get those both. And hey, might as well get that eReader, and some cards for it. And if you're getting the eReader, you might as well get some use out of it by getting Animal Crossing, which uses it. Oh, and there's a new GBA coming out, with backlighting, since we knew that people would buy the original, complain they couldn't see it, and then buy this new one. Oh, and if you wanna use headphones, you better buy this adapter. Oh, and buy Nintendo brand headphones too..."

JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND MAKE A GOD DAMN FUCKING GAME THAT HAS EVERYTHING IT HAS TO FUCKING OFFER ACTUALLY IN THE FUCKING GAME. DON'T MAKE US PAY ANOTHER $300 JUST SO WE CAN UNLOCK A "NEW" FEATURE THAT MAKES UP ONE-TWENTIETH OF THE OVERALL GAME, IF IT EVEN HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE OVERALL GAME.

[kinot]

There are Gamesharks, Jamesman :/

[James]

Now what does that have to do with anything I said? >:

[Zomboid]

I didn't read all of that, but I did read stuff like "I want to play old games again". Play the roms for old games, I wanna see some new, original stuff. I love the mario kart games though, so I want that to keep being improved upon and not changed much.

[timrpgland]

Nintendo is still bad ass, people just bitch too much. :(

[Jixby Phillips]

NINTENDO IS GOOD YESTERDAY AND TOMMOROW ITS NEVER GOOD TODAY

[Helm]

Nintendo's 2d games were always better than their 3d games, in my oppinion. There's nothing creative in the switch either. The whole industry was making the jump, nintendo last, I think.

[StRsCrEaM1090]

i agree with sound test. at times if feel nintendo can be quite kiddie-ish though. *don't even get me started on the new zelda game* metroid prime was amazing allthough at times a bit easy. mario sunshine not bad ssbm good. i think the e-reader is scamy and gay. but i do like how most of the popular super nintendo games are being ported to the gba. it's a real shame that the game cube doesn't have a dvd player(i know about the import). if it had the player i think more people would own them (thats not to say that a lot of people don't allready)/.

[timrpgland]

No please, go on about the new Zelda game. I could use a good laugh.

[StRsCrEaM1090]

don't get me wrong, i love the new cell shaded graphics. i just can't stand the new look they gave to link, all the monsters in the game are bad ass drawn n'shit and link looks like a freaking smily face with arms and legs ;) just look at the screen shots. i'm still can't decide if i want to buy it or not yet, i do however want to reserve it for the master quest disk wich contains some sort of harder zelda 64 game (you all probly allready know this). the new zelda is a turn off. what happend to that bitch'n demo link from e3 all those years ago when the cube was for unveiled?....

[timrpgland]

:lol

but it's going to be sooooo goooood

This takes place 100 years after Ocarina.. but of course the Zelda timeline is all fucked up and Link is practically never the "same" Link throughout the series. The game is going to be great. For all the people bitching about Nintendo not being creative, fuck off, cause practically those same people bitch about the new zelda look. Make up your fucking minds. Miyamoto has his dirty little hands in this one. It's going to be a masterpiece. I feel confident saying that :) Watch the videos..... screenshots mean nothing. You can rest assured the gameplay will be there, it always has been.

[mew barios]

i've been keen on the new zelda since i first heard it's mention. after seeing the trailer.. wtf :o how can anyone not be psyched for this :D

[timrpgland]

:cheers

[DoomCross]

Goddamnit,nintendo still has it.I believe that they aren't able to deal with such competition as Xbox and Sony.Personally,I believe that much of the talk about nobody liking their kiddie games is very true.Still, the games they make that are good kick all ass in my mind.I'd rather have to wait for a game like Metroid Prime for a year than get a half ass attempt in three.Nintendo's only drawback is that they are perfectionist.They try a little too hard sometimes.

[James]

I feel dumber for having read that.

[Les Waste]

I'm excited about the new Zelda game. :(

As long as Nintendo keeps making games like Metroid Prime, they can be as uncreative as possible. Although I wish there were more RPG's for Gamecube. I know about PSO, and Square's new game, but that's still not very many. :(

[James]

I was bummed that I wasn't going to see the new Zelda game in the form that was shown so long ago (giving Link a realistic look like that would really show off the power of the GC better than cel-shading - which I really hate, by the way). On top of that, I really didn't like the new look. Keep in mind, that was BEFORE the refined the graphics so Link didn't look like an action figure melted under a magnifying glass.

Now, the game doesn't look all that bad. I still don't like Nintendo, but I can't complain about the look, aside from the fact that I hate cel-shading.

And God-fucking-dammit, the next Zelda game better have Link looking like he does in SC2.

[Krythor]

Was I just hallucinating, or did I hear a while ago that the zelda game after the cel shaded GC game would be a more realistic looking one, like what was shown at e3?

[Generator86]

Zelda is going to fucking rule. I just know that I'm going to have to quit my job and break up with my girlfriend when it comes out, just like with Ocarina.

[kinot]

Square's new game

LET'S NOT FORGET ENIX >:

[StRsCrEaM1090]

nintendo didn't make metroid prime, retro studios made it. it's a great game. there aren't any games coming out for the cube that i'm pumped about. i'm going to concentrate more on the gba now because it seems to me that a lot of the snes games are being re-released for it. snes rocked it was the best nintendo system ever.

[timrpgland]

Yeah that's why I play my old systems.... Remakes are bit overrated. Just play the old systems I say. I'd rather see more new 2D classics being made. Iv'e already played all the remakes or own them on their respective system so it's kind of pointless.

As for Metroid Prime. Nintendo was teamed up with Retro Studios. Shigeru Miyamoto and Kensuke Tanabe were both involved as well as the Retro Studios people.

[StRsCrEaM1090]

you know what would be cool, some sort of periferal that would connect to the game cube and had slots for snes nes gba and virtual boy. (i allready heard about the gba thing thats due out some time in march)but that'd probly never happen.

[Zbu Manowar]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned that Nintendo's main problem is that they refuse to finally accept that CD-based games are the wave of the future. Hell, even the Cube has those silly little discs that couldn't possibly hold that much data. Not only does it seem cheap, it seems like Nintendo still thinks they're the trendsetters for the video game industry and not becoming 2003's answer to Apple.

Their games used to rock. If Nintendo wants to get my money, they'd better drop their smugness and start putting out some better games. Nuff said...through the Smash Bros line is a step in the right direction.

[mew barios]

erm. them silly lil discs are mini-dvds. they hold what, 1.5 gigs? i'd hafta check.

and i think the decision to use those was highly motivated by their desire to make piracy inconvenient.

[Zbu Manowar]

Those are DVDs? No way! What a waste! Nintendo could have simply made a machine similiar to the PS2 that could play DVDs but they didn't because.....??

Please tell me you're joking. Please tell me Nintendo isn't pulling shit like this. They can't be this petty.

[D3k]

Those are DVDs? No way! What a waste! Nintendo could have simply made a machine similiar to the PS2 that could play DVDs but they didn't because.....??

Please tell me you're joking. Please tell me Nintendo isn't pulling shit like this. They can't be this petty.

from http://www.n-planet.co.uk/gcn/gcn/specs.shtml
Media - 8cm NINTENDO GAMECUBE Disc based on Matsushita's Optical Disc Technology Approx. 1.5GB Capacity

[mew barios]

they didn't have normal dvd playability because they wanted to ze kyoob to be $50 cheaper than anyone elses console at launch. also so they could have another accessory to sell at some point in the future. as i understand it.

and dvd may be a misleading thing to call them lil buggers. they are nintendo's own format. just similar in capacity.

[Zbu Manowar]

Well, once again Nintendo snatches defeat from the hands of victory. If they had made the Cube into a PS2 device they could easily be on the same standing as Sony. Can you imagine if a Nintendo version of a PS2: able to play DVDs, better higher tech games as well as making a buck by being able to take any game from their library, throw it on a CD, then sell it at ten dollars a pop and have a library bigger than the PSX one. And if they did that, then they could simply have made a successful Pocketstation with the Game Boy name attached to it.

In short, they could have matched Sony's tech expertise and beaten them easily with the backlog of games. And they didn't.

Fucking morons. How they're able to walk on two legs is beyond me.

[timrpgland]

Nintendo is still bad ass, people just bitch too much.

[me]

I loved Nintendo back when they made the 8 bit systems but today I would never buy a Gamecube. They just don't match up againsta PS2 or an X-box. The only new thing incorporated with the Gamecube is the minidisc and people can live without those. As for online gaming the gamecube does not stand a chance. They have no experience in computers or online gaming what-so-ever. I love their games but in the long run they just don't match up. As for the ps2 and X-box, they need to start cranking out some good games. Some more online games would be good too but mostly just a few good ones.

[Zbu Manowar]

Doesn't Sony already have that cable modem and stuff?

[Les Waste]

I think you're putting too much importance on having a DVD player in the console.

[Skulhedface]

The biggest thing is that Nintendo has much more powerful competition this time around. In the 80s, it only had fellow video game companies to compete with (Sega, SNK, etc.) But in the new millenium Nintendo the video game empire is taking on two of the biggest technological empires on the planet, "We Make Everything From TVs To Kitchen Sinks Now" Sony and "You Just Landed On Boardwalk With A Hotel" Microsoft. I think Nintendo realizes this, and is taking the initiative by hammering the only market they KNOW they can milk for all it's worth (The Children, Them Sugar Rushed Bastards That Gotta Catch Em All!) The stakes are much higher, and in my opinion it looks like Microsoft is already trying their Monopoly scheme again (In case you didn't know, Rare, the company behind the Donkey Kong games and Killer Instinct, was bought up by the Big Daddy Gates)

Of course, Nintendo has been the premiere name brand of video games and has more name value in the videogame market than Sony or Microsoft. But they're gaining.

Nintendo's BIGGEST hope is Japan, where reception to the Xbox was lackluster at best. If they can top the competition in Japan, there's still hope yet. Getting exclusivity for Resident Evil didn't hurt either, I suppose.

[Generator86]

I got rid of my X-box for a Game Cube, and in the few months that I've had it, I've gotten a lot more enjoyment out of it compared to the year that I had my X-box. Their exclusives are games that I simply can't go without playing (Metroid, Zelda, Resident Evil). In comparison, I thought Halo was totally overrated, Munch's Oddysee was lame, Dead Or Alive was only okay, and I can't even really think of any other games that I got a modicum of enjoyment from.

[Skulhedface]

I think Xbox only had two things going for it:
the built-in DVD (which some believe gives it an edge over Gamecube) and Microsoft itself. Gates is getting that "Buy out everyone" itch again (Rare being the latest victim)

Thank GOD Capcom refused. There were talks about Microsoft trying to acquire Capcom (Nintendo only has exclusivity over the RE series, not Capcom as a whole)

[Captain Robo]

NINTENDO IS GOOD YESTERDAY AND TOMMOROW ITS NEVER GOOD TODAY

Well said. :weep

[OxfordSparky]

Nintendo dicks its customers around too much. I remember the N64 days which saw some damn good games. Mario 64, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Jetforce Gemini, F-Zero X (which was really underrated if you ask me) and a bunch of others. Unfortunately, there were only around 10-20 really GREAT games for N64 (if that). Nowadays, the big N got rid of Rare (and I'm guessing burned some spoons deciding to do so) and there's really not a lot that I would want to play. I'll probably get a Cube some day just for all the games I'm mildly interested in (Mario, SSB, etc) and of course for Zelda. But Nintendo's practice of jerking you around for all your money is kind of ridiculous; with my PS2 I just buy the game, I don't need to buy the GBA, the GBA rendition of the game, the adapter cable, the e-reader, the dick smoker, and whatever the hell else they try to make me purchase just to gank more of my cash.

[timrpgland]

ok thanks, I'll remember to ignore your opinion :)

[Zbu Manowar]

He's right, man. Nintendo is still acting like it's in the '80s. If they put all that power from pushing people around into making some badass games, they would be giving Sony some competition. As it stands, they just stick out like a sore thumb by refusing to go to DVDs and such and marketing their old creations constantly.

And special 'events' like another Zelda/Metroid/Mario game. Give me a break.

[timrpgland]

Do you own a Gamecube or a GBA?

[Comrade Rocket]

Well Nintendo must be doing something right, cuz I don't see any forums about what people think of PS2 or X-box. But what we really need to worry about is Sega. I heard there buying companys. And I think once they get enough third party support (like PS2 has now) There going to realise something like the Dreamcast 2. Then i'll have to buy another system.

Damn another 200-300 buxs I hope its worth it.

[Skulhedface]

Are you sure you heard right? I'd imagine that if Sega were planning on releasing a new console, you wouldn't be seeing Sonic on Gamecube like you do now.

BTW That was something that really blew my fucking mind. Aside of course from an old ROM I had with Sonic on the SNES. That HAS to be a hack.

[Rongi]

>: at this thread.

[Skulhedface]

>: to pushing up post counts with irrelevant crap.

[Rongi]

>: at skulhedface for being a whiney little faggot

You people should be ashamed >:. Nintendo has always given you what you wanted, and now you piss and moan. Bah >:! Bah I say >:!

[Skulhedface]

And no one knows whiny little faggots like someone who is keeping them tendencies to themselves, do they?

ANYHOO, yea, Nintendo gave me what I wanted. Until now. THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT. Someone help Rongi pay for "Getting The Point" Classes.

[Rongi]

Skulhedface, I don't give a fuck about your opinion >:. Just sit in the corner and shut up while the adults talk >:.

What is wrong with kids today? If you want more from nintendo, whining will get you no where >:. Back in my day, we had the NES and where perfectly happy with it. Now you kids want everything multiplayer and onlines and 3D, bah >:. It's like you want to ruin classic games >:.

I hate children >:

[Zomboid]

"Somario" for nes was basically just mario in sonic's world doing exactly what sonic did but with bad graphics. I still have no idea where the fuck it came from.

[Skulhedface]

"adults" he says. LMFAO

It's almost naptime Rongi :/

[Rongi]

LMFAO

My god...do you really talk like that. I feel sorry for you :(

Zomboid, the whole somario thing was kinda like an experimentation basically.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Nintendo is okay right now. They are barely making money, but at least have original names for systems. I don't think I'm interested in "Playstation 3" or "X-Box 2". I read in a magizine that Nintendo has a new system planned for 2005, beat PS3 and X-Box 2 by a year. Maybe that will boost them up. If they have a good system and better graphics than they have now they will win the battle of the systems. They need more games for adults and teenagers. Alot of these games are for kids.

[timrpgland]

*BEEEP*

WRONG

[StRsCrEaM1090]

Thread posters, keep your dick(s) in your pants. go play your whinny fatbaby bitch song somewhere else. skulhedface, have you been retarded all of your life? oxfordsparky, learn how to make lagitamate valid points that will actually contribute to the thread instead of degrade it. if nintendo flooded the market with all its "most wanted" wares, people wouldn't want them. nintendo is like a seasoned crack dealer that knows your hooked. so they are just gonna keep dangling that peice of crack over your head untill you say to yourself "self:i don't really like crack anyway, fuck crack, infact i hate crack so much i'm gonna bitch about it." but deep down inside what your really saying is "shit i really want that crack (new game) to come out soon. " so in closing i'd like to state my point. nintendo's marketing plan seems to me to be withhold what the customer wants most untill it is utterly perfect and they can't wait anymore for it. and then, when they've waited long enough spring it onto them. the longer you wait for something and the harder you desire it makes it all that much better when you finally do get.......am i right?

[Scarlet Speedster]

http://www.torchthebridge.com/reviews.php?id=1693

Thought this seemed relevent.

[Krythor]

Strscream or whatever: I'd like to say I agree with you, what with your Link user pic 'n all, but by the end of your post my IQ had dropped so many points that I couldn't understand a single point you were trying to make.

There's enough GREAT games for the Gamecube to keep you playing all the way through to the next console. And that's all you need. A great game comes out every month or so, we recently got both Metroid and Zelda, and we've had SSB, Mario Sunshine, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil, Resident Evil 0, Starfox Adventures and the new Mortal Kombat to name just a few off the top of my head.

I DO feel like the same games and game characters are being recycled a bit too much though, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The loss of Rare dealt a heavy blow too; Donkey Kong 64 was my second favorite game on the N64 next to Ocarina Of Time.

If I had the cash to waste, I might invest in another console to back myself up with, but constantly juggling between different systems for my games isn't gonna happen. Money doesn't grow on trees, and I can at least rely on Nintendo to supply me with classic game characters like Mario and Zelda that never seem to fail. Using the same formula can be a good thing.

[Zomboid]

I must say, until recently I was really wanting to get a gcn but when I thought about the games I was looking forward to, I could only come up with about 3. One of the main reasons I'd be getting it is for the games that it will/might get, and that's not something I really like when it's gonna cost me over 250$ (I'm Canadian, and that's the price at places like wal-mart).