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Ninjavenom
Jan 4th, 2005, 08:11 PM
http://lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

In practical and considerably oversimplified terms, this means that if 2000 was the year of global Peak Oil, worldwide oil production in the year 2020 will be the same as it was in 1980. However, the world’s population in 2020 will be both much larger (approximately twice) and much more industrialized (oil-dependent) than it was in 1980. Consequently, worldwide demand for oil will outpace worldwide production of oil by a significant margin. As a result, the price will skyrocket, oil-dependent economies will crumble, and resource wars will explode.

Please reassure. :(

Lies are okay. :(

Jeanette X
Jan 4th, 2005, 09:35 PM
I've seen that too. :(

Sethomas
Jan 4th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Did they take a .net domain because aftertheoilcrash.com was taken already?

Mr. Vagiclean
Jan 4th, 2005, 09:59 PM
comeon other sources of energy FASTER

Alive
Jan 4th, 2005, 11:14 PM
Were basicly thcrewed

Perndog
Jan 4th, 2005, 11:45 PM
I posted about this months ago, you fuckers.

Ninjavenom
Jan 4th, 2005, 11:51 PM
I could have sworn i saw some other thread with the word "oil" in it a while ago, too. But be honest. Would you have dug it up if I had posted it?

derrida
Jan 5th, 2005, 12:19 AM
everyone come to my house for a no more oil party. i have really good blow. then when shit gets really fucked up, (but not as much as we are lol) out comes the python and well paste our brains on the wall.

mburbank
Jan 5th, 2005, 10:43 AM
A sound plan.

Peak oil may not have happened, new technologies may make previosuly unreachable oil economically feasable, etc. etc. etc.

But here's the psychotic thing...

No one but no one, no matter how conservative, no matter how thoroughly connected to the oil economy, denies that oil is a finite resource. Sooner or later it will run out.

That being the case, it boggles the mind that there isn't a mad rush on to be the first country to mass produce sustainable energy products. The fact that we are not hip deep in the search, to my mind, totally puts the lie to the free market /capitalism as religion set. IF the market really was logical and self regulating there would be buckets of venture capital flowing into alternative energy research. Because everyone agrees, eventually there will be NO MORE OIL. And when the oil does run out, the people with patents on something else that works will get as rich as the oil barrons are now. If the market was logical and self correcting, the oil barrons themselves would be investing buckets of money in alternative technologies.

Helm
Jan 5th, 2005, 10:50 AM
There's much money in innovation, at some point in the future. There's too much money however, in controlling the market today. Capitalism doesn't care about tommorow as long as it's got a deal going now. I guess you know that just take my reply as an emphatic agreement that this is mind-boggling.

DamnthatDavid
Jan 5th, 2005, 01:19 PM
the oil barrons themselves would be investing buckets of money in alternative technologies.

A hydrogen gas station opened up in Washington awhile back.
It was created by some company that gets the Alaskan Oil.

Ninjavenom
Jan 5th, 2005, 03:44 PM
The problem itself is no so much the lack of oil, as much as it is that it takes oil to produce these alternate energy sources. Kinda like spending money to make money, only for every $100 you spend, you only make a $20 product.

ziggytrix
Jan 5th, 2005, 03:52 PM
solar, thermo, hydroelectric, and nuclear power are all fossil-fuel free energy sources.

Perndog
Jan 5th, 2005, 05:03 PM
But those are the ones that aren't taking off. Nuclear because there are too many paranoid Cold War throwbacks who still think nuclear power is dangerous. >: And all the others because of the currently devastating cost to benefit ratio in most cases.

I've got my fingers crossed for cold fusion in 50 years. :)

Royal Tenenbaum
Jan 5th, 2005, 06:17 PM
Nuclear power is also shit because uranium will run out as well.

Ninjavenom
Jan 5th, 2005, 08:07 PM
Indeed, as will Platinum, which is a key ingredient in something or other.

GADZOOKS
Jan 5th, 2005, 08:28 PM
We must build more paddle boats.

Perndog
Jan 5th, 2005, 09:29 PM
Uranium will take way, way longer to run out than oil.

Sethomas
Jan 5th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Rolling Stone (yeah, :() had a good article on this a while ago. One of the contributing minds to it was an official for BP, who said that it's basically up to the oil industry itself to find these solutions. The main point he expressed was that oil isn't going to just disappear one day, it's just going to get more and more hard to find and thus more and more expensive. Thus I find it ironic that the only people interested in the market are the yuppies right now.

One of my uncles drives a Prius, though I'm not sure if he's aware that it's not really saving him money in the grand scheme if he keeps getting a new one every three years. Still, I'd love to own one.