South Park Conservatives

[KevinTheOmnivore]

I've been meaning to post this here, was interested in the response it would receive. I don't think the guy who wrote this article (nor the guy writing the book) really watched South Park regularly.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/131vxnun.asp

Come On Out to South Park . . .
. . . and meet Brian Anderson and the new breed of young conservatives.

by David Skinner
01/14/2005 12:00:00 AM

I CALLED UP Brian Anderson yesterday to ask him a few questions about his forthcoming book, South Park Conservatives: The Revolt Against Liberal Media Bias.

Anderson is a senior editor at City Journal. He's typical of an increasingly influential type of journalist, the full-time, on-staff, journal journalist who, paid by a think tank like the Manhattan Institute or the Ethics and Public Policy Center, has the time and space to work on policy articles for months at a time before having to pull the trigger on a finished piece. The result is a densely fortified style of reporting and argumentation that puts to shame mainstream journalism's call-and-quote product. Anderson's City Journal colleague, Heather Mac Donald, is another fine example of the breed, as are, from the younger set, the writers over at the New Atlantis, a journal of technology edited by STANDARD contributor Eric Cohen.

But it's not for any disquisition on urban policy or essay of political philosophy (a subject in which he has a Ph.D.) that Anderson has lately achieved a modest but growing measure of public known-ness. It is for a very nice bit of trend reporting, his Autumn 2003 article We're Not Losing the Culture Wars Anymore, which introduced a great number of online readers to the phrase South Park Conservative.

A coinage of Andrew Sullivan's, the South Park Conservative is, like the hit Comedy Central show from Matt Stone and Trey Parker, opposed to political correctness and more likely to ridicule than observe the guidelines of the new sensitivity concerning race, ethnicity, minorities, women, the handicapped, obesity, homosexuality, ugliness, religion, childhood, and much, much, much else. The show, according to Anderson's thesis, is typical of how the culture is shifting to a more critical attitude toward liberal media and its firmly held pieties. (City Journalhas just pre-published the final chapter of the book in its latest issue.)

My first, not really serious, question is whether Anderson in his book tries to write Andrew Sullivan out of the movement. (After seeing the especially tame WEEKLY STANDARD cover this week of a gay Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Sullivan had a reaction that can only be described as, well, politically correct.) "Andrew has become increasingly liberal," Anderson allows, but no, he isn't trying to kick him out. He does say that Sullivan, in his usage, "incorporates the notion of social liberalism," while Anderson himself is not only more conservative, but he believes that, at its core, South Park the show is, also, culturally conservative.

The idea for Anderson's article, he says, originated in the offices of City Journal, where editor Myron Magnet and members of the staff were trying to get a read on the meaning of the rise of Fox News, the blog-supported resignation of ultra-liberal New York Times editor Howell Raines, the incredible traffic at Drudge and other websites not particularly friendly to the left-wing hierarchy of the mainstream media. Even before Rathergate, a lot was going on that suggested a major shift away from the "monolithic liberalism of the mainstream media." (And, yes, there was a time before Rathergate: I remember well that sweet predawn era of complete faith in the words of that great, noble, manly, truth-telling newsreader.)

Is South Park conservatism exclusively a young phenomenon? Well, Anderson says, "a lot of the older conservatives just don't get it." But some do. Bill Bennett, says Anderson, called after reading the article. Bennett's kids were South Park fans and had been encouraging him to give it a try. And so he did, finding the show clearly anti-liberal. (No word yet on Bennett's opinion of Team America: World Police.) But, yes, South Park conservatism is especially big among young conservatives, says Anderson, who are more comfortable with the new "more flippant tone" and the new technologies.

Anderson talked with "several dozen" conservative students for his book. "They weren't young George Wills, they weren't young Bill Buckleys." They wore jeans and listened to iPods nonstop, but were intensely pro-life. But less conservative than their older counterparts on gay marriage, where they didn't object to the idea of civil unions for gays. As for the war on terror, they were very pro-Bush.

Is there a downside to the rise of South Park conservatism? I ask. "It can be," as its critics claim Anderson notes, "kind of nihilistic, profane, and vulgar." And, of course, "it will offend a lot of people." But, he says, "the biggest danger is that the activism and the attitude might replace an engagement with ideas."

Anderson continues: "You don't want to see it as a whole ethos of life. . . . If there weren't any respect for higher culture, it wouldn't be conservatism."


David Skinner is an assistant managing editor at The Weekly Standard and runs the blog Galley Slaves.

© Copyright 2005, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.

[Helm]

Anything can be given a spin in a peculiar direction if someone does a lot of twisting. Due to the awareness and aknowledgement of post-modernist 'communication of communication', it's pretty much a given that whatever point you're trying to make, someone out there will use your exact words/actions/art and completely turn them around, and feel completely justified in doing it. It's part of the 'nobody understands, words are without meaning, everything acts as a vessel for everything' type of apologist PM that is desperately trying to cast critical thought as completely obsolete.

I wouldn't find it suprising if someone said that the nazis archived footage of their ethnic cleansing in death camps and the like purely for reasons of posterity, and to forever remind humanity of how inhuman it can get, and therefore, the nazis were deeply and essentially humanitarian. Nothing is too far-fetched nowdays.

My dad's a marxist, and he writes/draws political cartoons in the newspapers here in greece. I can't tell you how many times people have come up to me and in casual conversation, thoroughly explained how my dad is a racist, a fascist, a stalinist, a traitor to the communist party, or completely apolitical, a cheap reactionary or whichever combination of the above. People understand what they want to understand. Their bias overbears any attempt at actual honest inspection of a written piece, or of art or of whatever else carries a semiotic charge. People are more interested in proving themselves right than they are in understanding anything, and that naturally paints their worldview as a pretty scary place where things simply are not even intended to make sense.

[Emu]

It always seemed to me that when South Park took conservative stances on things, it was in such a way to make conservatives look like douches. Like the episode where the people came from the future and in the end they all said how gay trying to help other people is.

[mburbank]

What Helm said.

I think Parker and Stone joyfully attack hypocrisy and dogmatism wherever they find it. I find it rather refreshing and far from conservative.

I personally think they tend towward the potty to iften, but that's just me.

Poops and hypocrisy. That's where they're at.

Doctrinaire people always feel they have to own anything they like.

[Dole]

That lovely band 'Kill The Man Who Questions' said it nicely: 'Your backlash against a PC hysteria is a fucking joke'

[ziggytrix]

South Park isn't anti-liberal, it's anti-establishment. Brian Anderson is a giant douche, almost as big a douche as John Edward (of Crossing Over, not John Edwards of the US Senate). :D

at its core, South Park the show is, also, culturally conservative

He must be referring to the episode where Stan taught the mountain lion cubs how to perform abortions so they could kill the antichrist fetus...

[El Blanco]

I've always thought Parker and Stone dealt it out pretty even. They hit limousine liberals and right wing christian conservatives on a regular basis.

It isn't so much any political stanse they back, just the jackasses that act as mouth pieces.

Meh, just goes to show, people see what they want to see.

[Perndog]

I think it's funny that the one value of the "conservative students" that the author pointed out was that they were "intensely pro-life" and "pro-Bush" regarding the war on terror. Maybe they should have specified that they rounded up young Republicans.

[VinceZeb]

My dad's a marxist, and he writes/draws political cartoons in the newspapers here in greece. I can't tell you how many times people have come up to me and in casual conversation, thoroughly explained how my dad is a racist, a fascist, a stalinist, a traitor to the communist party, or completely apolitical, a cheap reactionary or whichever combination of the above. People understand what they want to understand. Their bias overbears any attempt at actual honest inspection of a written piece, or of art or of whatever else carries a semiotic charge. People are more interested in proving themselves right than they are in understanding anything, and that naturally paints their worldview as a pretty scary place where things simply are not even intended to make sense.

I would have just called your dad a fucking idiot, but then again I try to keep from arguing with the mentally retarded. Except when I'm on here, then its unavoidable.

[Dole]

Your 'jokes' are like your politics. Badly thought out, make no sense, and utterly devoid of any humourous content whatsoever.

[sspadowsky]

I would have just called your dad a fucking idiot, but then again I try to keep from arguing with the mentally retarded. Except when I'm on here, then its unavoidable.

You talk a lot about what you would do, until you're called upon to back it up, Jessica.

[Helm]

pst vince, would you insult my mom while you're at it I don't think I'm nearly close to crying

[imported_I, fuzzbot.]

Hmm...I never think of the anti PC, somewhat libertarian but pro-war Conservatives and the pro lifers as being in the same boat.

And Ipods? They don't exactly symbolise socialism! is it surprising that republicans would use them?

The article mentions that the South Park creators take the piss out of religion. I really don't think that doing this is remotely right wing. Especially if it's Christianity.

[Gommi]

South park seems to take a liberal stance on everything, but sometimes they make fun of how rediculous the left can be sometimes.

[Gommi]

South park seems to take a liberal stance on everything, but sometimes they make fun of how rediculous the left can be sometimes.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Don't be rediculous.

[El Blanco]

South park seems to take a liberal stance on everything,

Do you not watch ot or not pay attention when you do? You just missed the entire point of the thread.

[Gommi]

Ya i guess im just a moron that way.

[El Blanco]

I get the feeling you are a moron in a lot of ways

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Okay, so this "South Park Conservatives" phrase seems to be popping up more and more lately. I want to read this guy Anderson's book, but I know it'll be a massive lump of shit.

Here we have now TWO men (including Frank Rich below) trying to create an ideological debate over South Park. I think Rich makes a couple of funny points, particularly about the bonus features on the pending DVD, but he uses Matt and Trey in this column as a volley ball, just as much as the moron who wrote this book.

Rich actually attempts to link the episode mocking the Terri Schiavo case as some sort of measuring stick as to where the general public has gone. As if "all of a sudden" South Park began criticizing these "big government conservatives" (another phrase I'm guessing the show's creators couldn't care less about).


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/01/opinion/01rich.html?hp

May 1, 2005
OP-ED COLUMNIST

Conservatives ♥ 'South Park'
By FRANK RICH

onservatives can't stop whining about Hollywood, but the embarrassing reality is that they want to be hip, too. It's not easy. In the showbiz wrangling sweepstakes of 2004, liberals had Leonardo DiCaprio, the Dixie Chicks and the Boss. The right had Bo Derek, Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson, who, upon meeting the secretary of the interior, Gale Norton, congratulated her for doing "a nice job decorating the White House." Ms. Simpson may be the last performer in America who can make Whoopi Goldberg seem like the soul of wit.

What to do? Now that Arnold Schwarzenegger's poll numbers have sunk, the right's latest effort to grab a piece of the showbiz action is a new and fast-selling book published by Regnery, home to the Swift Boat Veterans, and promoted in lock step by the right-wing media elite of Fox News, The Wall Street Journal's editorial page and The New York Post. "South Park Conservatives: The Revolt Against Liberal Media Bias," by Brian C. Anderson of the conservative think tank the Manhattan Institute, gives a wet kiss to one of the funniest and most foul-mouthed series on television. The book has even been endorsed by the grim theologian Michael Novak, who presumably forgot to TiVo the "South Park" episode that holds the record for the largest number of bleeped-out repetitions (162) of a single four-letter expletive in a single television half-hour. Then again, The Weekly Standard has informed us that William Bennett, egged on by his children, has given the show a tentative thumbs up.

Cynics might say that conservatives, flummoxed by the popularity of Jon Stewart, are eager to endorse any bigger hit on Comedy Central: The animated adventures of four obstreperous fourth graders in the mythical town of South Park, Colo., outdraws "The Daily Show" by a million or so viewers. But Mr. Anderson has another case to make. He quotes "South Park" profanity without apology and cheers the "scathing genius" with which it mocks "hate-crime laws and sexual harassment policies, liberal celebrities, abortion-rights extremists."

In one episode he praises, "Butt Out," a caricatured Rob Reiner journeys from Hollywood to South Park to mount a fascistic antismoking campaign that "perfectly captures the Olympian arrogance and illiberalism of liberal elites." Mr. Anderson also applauds last fall's "South Park" adjunct, "Team America: World Police," the feature film in which the show's creators, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, portray Michael Moore as a suicide bomber and ridicule the antiwar activism of Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, Sean Penn and Janeane Garofalo by presenting them as dim-witted, terrorist-appeasing puppets (literally so, with strings) who are ultimately blown to bits at a "world peace conference" convened by Kim Jong Il. (The film is out on DVD, with an expanded marionette sex scene featuring coprophilia, on May 17.)

So far, so right. Among their other anarchic comic skills, Mr. Parker and Mr. Stone have a perfect pitch for lampooning what many Americans find most irritating about liberals, especially Hollywood liberals: a self-righteous propensity for knowing better than anyone else and for meddling in everyone's business, whether by enforcing P.C. speech codes or plotting to curb S.U.V.'s and guns.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the publication of "South Park Conservatives": Emboldened by the supposed "moral values" landslide on Election Day, the faith-based right became the new left. Just as Mr. Anderson's book reached stores in early April, Mr. Parker and Mr. Stone, true to their butt-out libertarianism, aimed their fire at self-righteous, big-government conservatives who have become every bit as high-handed and meddlesome as any Prius-pushing movie star. Such is this role reversal that the same TV show celebrated by Mr. Anderson and his cohort as the leading edge of a potential conservative victory in the culture wars now looks like a harbinger of an anti-conservative backlash instead.

In the March 30 episode, Kenny, a kid whose periodic death is a "South Park" ritual, lands in a hospital in a "persistent vegetative state" and is fed through a tube. The last page of his living will is missing. Demonstrators and media hordes descend. Though heavenly angels decree that "God intended Kenny to die" rather than be "kept alive artificially," they are thwarted by Satan, whose demonic aide advises him to "do what we always do - use the Republicans." Soon demagogic Republican politicians are spewing sound bites ("Removing the feeding tube is murder") scripted in Hell. But as in the Schiavo case, they don't prevail. Kenny is allowed to die in peace once his missing final wish is found: "If I should ever be in a vegetative state and kept alive on life support, please for the love of God don't ever show me in that condition on national television."

This remarkably prescient scenario, first broadcast on the eve of Terri Schiavo's death, anticipated just how far the zeitgeist would swing in the month after the right's overreach in her case. A USA Today poll a week later found that Americans by 55 to 40 percent believe that "Republicans, traditionally the party of limited government, are 'trying to use the federal government to interfere with the private lives of most Americans' on moral values." In other words, what Hillary Clinton's overreaching big-government health care plan did to the Democrats a decade ago is the whammy the Schiavo case has inflicted on the G.O.P. today. And like the Democrats back then, the Republican elites have been so besotted with their election victory and so out of touch with the mainstream they didn't see their comeuppance coming. At the height of the feeding-tube frenzy, Peggy Noonan told her Wall Street Journal troops that federal intervention in the Schiavo family brawl was a political slam dunk: "Politicians, please, think of yourselves! Move to help Terri Schiavo, and no one will be mad at you, and you'll keep a human being alive." (Italics hers.)

Oops. But what's given the Schiavo case resonance beyond the Schiavo story itself is that it crystallized the bigger picture of Olympian arrogance and illiberalism on the right. The impulse that led conservatives to intervene in a family's bitter debate over a feeding tube is the same one that makes them turn a debate over a Senate rule on filibusters into a litmus test of spiritual correctness. Surely no holier-than-thou Hollywood pontificator could be harder to take than the sanctimonious Bill Frist, who, unlike Barbra Streisand, can't even sing.

The same arrogance that sent Republicans into Terri Schiavo's hospice room has also led them to try to police the culture of sex more rabidly than the left did the culture of sexism. No wonder another recent poll, from the Pew Research Center, finds that for all the real American displeasure with coarse entertainment, a plurality of 48 percent believes that "the government's imposing undue restrictions" on pop culture is "a greater danger" to the country than the entertainment industry itself. Who could have imagined that the public would fear Focus on the Family's James Dobson more than 50 Cent?

But in this crusade, too, few on the right seem to recognize that they're overplaying their hand; they keep upping the ante. One powerful senator, Ted Stevens of Alaska, has proposed that cable and satellite be policed by the federal government along with broadcast television - a death knell for even the Sirius incarnation of Howard Stern, not to mention much of Comedy Central. A powerful House committee chairman, James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin, topped that by calling for offenders to be pursued through a "criminal process." Last week President Bush signed a Family Entertainment and Copyright Act that allows "family-friendly" companies to sell filter technology that cleans up DVD's of Hollywood movies without permission or input from the films' own authors and copyright holders. That sounds innocuous enough until you learn that even "Schindler's List" isn't immune from the right's rigid P.C. code. As the owner of CleanFlicks, the American Fork, Utah, company that goes further and sells pre-sanitized DVD's, once explained to The New York Times: "Every teenager in America should see that film. But I don't think my daughters should see naked old men running around in circles." And so Big Brother can intervene to protect our kids from all that geriatric Holocaust porn.

On the first page of "South Park Conservatives," its author declares that "CBS's cancellation in late 2003 of its planned four-hour miniseries 'The Reagans' marked a watershed in America's culture wars." It did, in the sense that the right's successful effort to stifle what it regarded as an un-P.C. (i.e., somewhat critical) treatment of Ronald Reagan sped the censorious jihad that's now threatening everything from "The Sopranos" on HBO to lesbian moms on PBS. Of course "South Park" is also on this hit list: the Parents Television Council, the take-no-prisoners e-mail mill leading the anti-indecency charge, has condemned the show on its Web site as a "curdled, malodorous black hole of Comedy Central vomit." Should such theocratic conservatives prevail, "South Park" conservatives will be hipper than they ever could have imagined - terminally hip, you might say.

[Immortal Goat]

I predict one of two things happening within the next decade.

1. The Republican Party, fueled by their newfound power and self-righteousness, will go so far as to censor any and all media, and still complain about how it is run by the Jews, thereby turning the United States into a sickeningly sterile version of the Middle East, or...

2. The Republican Party, fueled by their newfound power and self-righteousness, will go too far and collapse in on itself, allowing the "sinfully deviant" liberals to take power, thereby turning us into a sickeningly pollitically correct nation bent on apologizing to everyone who has ever been poked in the eye by a member of a different race.

[Preechr]

Don't be rediculous.

I am offended.

[Raize]

Trey Parker and Matt Stone are libertarians. One of them (forgot which) is a card-carrying member. The other once said, "I hate Republicans, but I really-fucking-hate liberals."

I think South-Park Conservative is a fancy way of saying, pro-war-in-Iraq libertarian. Not a single one of their episodes pokes fun at libertarianism or even objectivism.

[AngPur]

The other once said, "I hate Republicans, but I really-fucking-hate liberals."

I guess Rudy is on his shitlist twice.

[Emu]

The majority of their audience is too stupid to know that there are more than two political parties.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

I think South-Park Conservative is a fancy way of saying, pro-war-in-Iraq libertarian. Not a single one of their episodes pokes fun at libertarianism or even objectivism.

I think that has less to do with loyalty, and more to do with relevance. What percentage of South Park viewers are going to get an Ayn Rand joke?

And I don't believe Matt and/or Trey are Objectivists. I'd think that might be far too dogmatic for their cynical tastes.

[The One and Only...]

I somewhat agree with Helm. Prime example: there's this annoying guy at the anti-state forums who interprets EVERY FUCKING MOVIE as supporting anarcho-capitalism in some way. I mean, christ, I'm an ancap, but wake up...

In truth, my opinion is that while language can be interpreted different ways, there is at least some level of understood meaning. Otherwise, language would be incomprehensible and no one would have even the slightest clue as to what was being said. Think of an objective base overlayed by subjective tones.

And yes, I do think that the creators of South Park are conservative.

[Emu]

You know, it is possible to be a moderate and make fun of both sides.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

And yes, I do think that the creators of South Park are conservative.

How so?

[The One and Only...]

Well, at least the few times I've watched it, there tends to be a theme coming back to traditional American values. That, and I've seen more bashing of PC and liberalism than I have of conservatism.

[Emu]

Yes, American Values like a singing hunk of shit. Very perceptive.

[AngPur]

Yes, American Values like a singing hunk of shit. Very perceptive.

And Jesus having a daytime talkshow.

[The One and Only...]

Those aren't themes, you know.

American values like working hard, family, etc, not being a dickwad of a fundamentalist. And I didn't say that they never made fun of conservatives.

[Zebra 3]

:confused - Does South Park ever target the Bush administration? Thanks!

[AngPur]

:confused - Does South Park ever target the Bush administration? Thanks!

Saddam Hussein's WMDs in heaven.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

I see your point, OAO. Like the most recent Christmas episode, where a couple of mountain lion cubs learn how to perform abortions in order to prevent the anti-Christ from consuming Kyle's body. :/

[KevinTheOmnivore]

not being a dickwad of a fundamentalist.

When in the last 25 years has this ever been synonymous with conservatism....?

[Rez]

should have quoted that entire bit about working hard and family too...

:/

appropriating these things to use them as political tools dont translate into being the party to stand for them

[The One and Only...]

not being a dickwad of a fundamentalist.

When in the last 25 years has this ever been synonymous with conservatism....?

What I mean to say is that the conservative values they espouse do not include religious fundamentalism.

[Ant10708]

:confused - Does South Park ever target the Bush administration? Thanks!

Saddam Hussein's WMDs in heaven. But Saddam ended up actually to be making weapons in that episode so that not really an attack on Bush.

[AngPur]

It included the famous line of 'are you high or just stupid?' in response to the WMD bit at the UN. Responded to with 'I assure you gentlemen I am not high'.

Likewise, there was a joke about country singers cashing on on 9/11 in that episode.

Yeah, if you want to think it only targets the left, be my guest, but you're missing out on half of the jokes.

[Zbu Manowar]

It always seemed to me that when South Park took conservative stances on things, it was in such a way to make conservatives look like douches. Like the episode where the people came from the future and in the end they all said how gay trying to help other people is.

Especially when they came right out and called the Conservatives 'evil' in that episode about the Schivo case. Oh yeah, South Park Conservatives, yup indeedy...full of bullshit, really.

He must be referring to the episode where Stan taught the mountain lion cubs how to perform abortions so they could kill the antichrist fetus...

And which was Bush again, the douche or the turd sandwich?

[Emu]

The Turd Sandwich.

I saw this book at Barnes and Nobles yesterday. It's fucking moronic.

[Zbu Manowar]

Thanks.

And yes it is.

[Ant10708]

It included the famous line of 'are you high or just stupid?' in response to the WMD bit at the UN. Responded to with 'I assure you gentlemen I am not high'.

Likewise, there was a joke about country singers cashing on on 9/11 in that episode.

Yeah, if you want to think it only targets the left, be my guest, but you're missing out on half of the jokes. I don't. I think South Park targets whoever the hell they want to. Honestly if you picked out everything South Park has poked fun at you'd have no fucking idea the political leanings of the South park creaters so save your time. The great thing about South Park is it mocks everyone. If Matt and Trey were really on the left they would of taken full advantage of having a show based on the Bush family but instead they went with a mocking of sitcoms and the show got canned. If they were really conservative they would never of been in any of the movies they have appeared in or have the orginal cartoon of SP feature Jesus fighting Santa. Who knows the whole blantantly saying 'Conservatives are evil.' might have nothing to do with their actual beliefs but maybe to disassociate themselves with this book or hell maybe the whole 'are you high or just stupid' line was for laughs because it was one of the funnier lines in that episode. There is no doubt the creaters use the show as a soapbox on many occasions but havn't you ever fucking read the NY times quote on the commerical? The show has a dogma of its own and that in my opinion is dead on and I hate the NY times.

But if anyone think the creaters are liberals after one of them have been quoted saying they hate liberals more than conservatives then you will only believe what you want to believe.

[Emu]

You can be a liberal and still hate liberals. You don't join political parties because you like the people who are in them, you join because you agree with the ideals of the party.

[AngPur]

Ant, I'm not saying they're liberals or leftists. I'm just saying they're not conservatives.

You do realize not everyone fits under one or the other right? Hell, look at McCain.

[Ant10708]

I wasn't trying to say you were calling them liberals. Yes I know that people fit under different categories than conservative and liberal. I'm not a moron so you don't need to doublecheck with these questions of yours. Just look at Rudy who spoke at my sister's graduation. Some bishop wouldn't go because he is pro choice. Rudy was funny thou and even made jokes about the controversy. Good graduation speaker.

[Miss Modular]

I know I'm digging up an old thread here, but I just came across this old editorial. It's from the editor of Vice, but it's worth a good read.

http://vdare.com/misc/050531_mcinnes.htm

May 31, 2005

South Park Conservatives: Is This New Anti-Left Trend Right?
By Gavin McInnes

As a self-proclaimed “guy who knows things about trends” I could not agree more with Michelle Malkin and Bryanna Bevens. South Park Conservatives are not conservatives at all. They are simply well-informed Gen-Xers who are not slaves to either end of the political spectrum’s dogma.

To understand, why one needs to go back merely one generation.

The Baby Boomers started out self-obsessed and smug and decided at a very early age they were going to be better than their parents. They were going to abolish racism and institute a strict regimen of looking for love and feeling groovy. They thought their parents were infected with dogmatic labels like Catholic and Protestant and life’s too cool for that. It’s time for change.

Instead of abolishing religion however, the Boomers just invented their own. Their dogma was just as stifling—only this time it was Right vs. Left.

Despite attempts to classify Gen X and Y into the spectrum of liberal, neocon, paleocon etc., today’s youth are bucking the whole idea of them vs. us, replacing conservative and liberal with—nothing.

The mainstream media sees a group of kids turning their nose up at liberal bias and they instantly assume it’s their grandfather’s soul reincarnated two generations later. They shudder in horror and call this new group Hipublicans or South Park Conservatives (even my own magazine took these paleoconservative characteristics and ran with them).

But to assume laughing at the left means blindly embracing the right is naïve. If the “South Park Conservatives” are conservatives, why does Pat Buchanan dry heave every time he accidentally channel surfs past the show?

The truth is this new generation is too sexually promiscuous, drug friendly, atheist and, more specifically informed to let the pendulum swing back all the way to the right.

More information has become available to the average human being in the past 5 years than all of history combined. When boomers heard liberal dogma back in the 60s, it was a chore to dig up the other side of the argument. Today it’s a mere Google click away. Thanks to the never-ending memes of the Internet we are able to glean the truth of both sides.

Is it any surprise then, in an era when even politicians have trouble differentiating between Democrat and Republican, there would be a generation that doesn’t even bother trying?

You can see examples of this new dichotomy within every hot topic.

Avant-garde filmmaker Bruce LaBruce is anti-gay marriage but he’s also a raging homosexual. If you think he’d fit in with the born again Christians give it a try and get back to me.

Today’s 18-25s hate Sharon with a passion but they also despise the latent sexism so intrinsic in Islam.

Yes, they consciously cringe when papers like the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal ignore the workingman and blindly praise the few upsides of globalism. But they also roll their eyes when the war on drugs claims another victim or the Republicans sweep into Iraq.

A great example of this recently appeared in Rolling Stone. The gay liberal tabloid features a comic called Get Your War On which spends most of its panels sarcastically praising the impossible task of erasing terrorism. However, when the painfully-out-of-touch Thomas Friedman leapt out of his leather chair and exulted “the world is flat”—i.e. globalism is good— with the rest of the ignorant left, Get Your War On accused him of "uncanny optimism?", and said “That makes no sense.”

Go over some Get Your War On archives. [Here]

Is this comic right or left? To quote the band Crass in their song White Punks on Hope, “Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot.”

Nothing sums up what I’m talking about better than a line from a movie the South Park guys made named Team America World Police.

Ironically the paleocons that are so ready to adopt these new anti-lefties will find this quote unread ably vile.

Maybe so but I challenge you to find a better example of the so-called South Park Conservatives gleaning the best of all the political spectrum has to offer.

The quote is from the end of the film when the protagonist Gary Johnston (played by South Park co-founder Trey Parker) is forced to defend America:

“We're dicks!” he says, “We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild are pussies. And Kim Jong Il is an *sshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get f*cked by dicks. But dicks also f*ck *ssholes: *ssholes that just want to sh*t on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with *ssholes their way. But the only thing that can f*ck an *sshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they f*ck too much or f*ck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of sh*t that they become *ssholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us f*ck this *sshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in sh*t!?”

[KevinTheOmnivore]

I believe we have a couple on the board now. :/

Cartman hates hippies, too. :(

[Emu]

Got this from Wikipedia:

Recently, Trey Parker was asked about the term "South Park Republican" in an interview for Team America: World Police, and what he thought about it:

Q: I don't know if you've heard about this, but there have been essays written about the concept of the "South Park Republican."
TREY: Yeah, we have seen that. What we're sick of — and it's getting even worse — is: You either like Michael Moore or you wanna fuckin' go overseas and shoot Iraqis. There can't be a middle ground. Basically, if you think Michael Moore's full of shit, then you are a super-Christian right-wing whatever. And we're both just pretty middle-ground guys. We find just as many things to rip on on the left as we do on the right. People on the far left and the far right are the same exact person to us.
In another exchange from the same interview:

Q: You seem to feel free to roast everybody equally.
TREY: Everybody needs a good roasting.
MATT STONE: It's been pretty funny on both sides.
TREY: And it comes from an honest belief we have, which is... George Bush doesn't know what's going on. Michael Moore does not know what's going on. And Alec Baldwin definitely does not know what's going on. Basically, this shit is gigantically complicated."