The AIDS "Myth"

[OAO Returns]

I find myself doubting the HIV-AIDS hypothesis. Although I currently have no established position and consider myself neutral, I would like to introduce you all to this site: http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index.htm

Enjoy.

[FS]

The moon landing never happened.

[mburbank]

Don't you have any homework?

[Emu]

Conspiracy theory? Come on :rolleyes

[Helm]

Blind romantics still believe HIV causes AIDS.

Yes, indeed, in my romantic dreamland, the skies are painted in Monet orange, I read Poe and Lord Byron by the plutonian shores, and get AIDS from HIV and die in horrible common-cold induced pains and massive organ failure.

[Big McLargehuge]

Is this your justification for turning all homo?

[Emu]

Yes, because now he wants to assure himself that even if he gets HIV he won't die of it.

[The One and Only...]

Is this your justification for turning all homo?

I'm pretty sure I mentioned I like girls more than guys.

[Big McLargehuge]

i'm pretty sure if you like guys at all you are a homo

[ziggytrix]

http://www.thebody.com/sfaf/spring00/hiv_causes.html

[The One and Only...]

At a glance, the 2nd postulate has never been met. HIV has never been successfully isolated in a laboratory experiment. Those blood tests never actually isolated the virus in the sample.

[ziggytrix]

Regarding postulate two, improvements in laboratory culture techniques have allowed the growth of HIV in vitro (in laboratory models) from blood samples obtained from persons with AIDS who have undergone such testing and from almost all persons with a positive antibody test without AIDS who have undergone such testing.

Your source says they haven't ever, mine says they have in almost every case. One of them is LYING.


see also: http://www2.niaid.nih.gov/Newsroom/FocusOn/Hiv00/default.htm

[The One and Only...]

The phrase you quoted does not state that the HIV grown was isolated from the blood sample. The second link, however, does state that HIV has been isolated, but sites no actual experiment.

Find me a single case study in which HIV was successfully isolated. Not an information sheet, an actual study. My bet is that you will not be able to.

Info regarding what constitutes as isolation and a history of HIV isolation attempts. (http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/award.htm)

[ziggytrix]

Let's just say I find ANYTHING posted at that specific website highly suspect. What you are asking for is a bit like proof that influenza virus causes runny noses. It's fucking rediculous that you think that site is legitimate.

As far as isolated HIV:
http://www.aegis.com/aidsline/1994/dec/M94C4262.html
http://www.aegis.com/news/ads/2005/AD050282.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1284212&dopt=Abstract
http://general-medicine.jwatch.org/cgi/content/full/1989/127/10

I could go on and on. Your boy's site says it has NEVER been done, but he's full of shit. It's done easily and frequently.

[Anonymous]

Wow, 1000 whole pounds! :lol

[The One and Only...]

Well, that's pretty much what I needed to see.

[mburbank]

Do you want to grow up to be an irritating blowhard?

Do you understand that the subtext of everything you post is "Can you believe how wonderful I am?"

[AChimp]

Sorry, OAO. You'll have to wear a condom. And make sure the other guy is, too.

[The One and Only...]

Awww... look at the little monkey. He's so cute! :)

But yeah, I agree.

[mburbank]

Just because you get good friday off from school doesn't mean you have to come here.

[kahljorn]

"Up to today there is actually no single scientifically really convincing evidence for the existence of HIV. Not even once such a retrovirus has been isolated and purified by the methods of classical virology."

Hilarious.

[DeadKennedys]

Now that you're bisexual you're worried about the gay man's cancer. How cute.