Star Wars Episode III

[Skulhedface]

As much as I want to say Episodes I and II pissed me off and disappointed me, I must say I'm squealing with delight to go see this one.

So I was fortunate enough to get my hands on tickets to the very first showing (the midnight premiere) and one of the best parts is knowing I can bring my camera along and take pictures of all the people that are going to dress up for this, haha.

Anyone else plan on seeing this? Or has Lucas alienated you far too much?

[pjalne]

I'm seeing it in two hours. I have to admit I've got a bit of a Star Wars tingle. A small one, but still.

I'm way too tired from partying and travelling to do anything, though. Hopefully I won't fall asleep at the theater.

[adeptninja]

yes me and other ninja also got tickets for the first show im excited im not going to lie

[xenosoul]

Im there at 12:01 midnight.. Should be a fun experience...

[pjalne]

Spoilers






It was quite a bit better than the last one, and way better than episode one. It felt really disjointed, though, but I was really tired and everything feels disjointed when you're in that state. It also had the same problem the last two had, where you have large portions where guys in robes are standing around delivering their lines and then suddenly go all Super Mario 64 and flip around like fucking ninjas before putting their hands back into their sleeves and talking again.

The acting was better in parts, especially when the actors had some feelings to work with. Anakin going nuts and beating his woman around showed Christensen actually can act, and when MacGregor had to deal with him he was able to do something besides yapping about trade federations with Samuel Jackson. And Palpatine had just the right amount of ham in him. His emperor face transformation was worse than Hitler, though.

My biggest problem was that characters came and went without any doors slamming. Christopher Lee was killed the second he entered the room, Jackson got a classic Disney death halfway through and was never referred to again, and the wookies was only around long enough for Yoda to go "Oh, by the way, that dude was Chewbacca, everybody. Quite the revelation if you ask me."

Was it just me, or did Lucas point a finger at Bush every chance he got?

[Studio8]

Have fun tonight guys

[Dr. Boogie]

I just saw a commercial for it that proclaimed "sith happens."

[jin]

I thought the acting was terribly wooden, and the script unbearable. ;0

Most scenes were two people talking like they tried to swallow a thesaurus and then spent a while thinking how to use their new words in a witty way ;<

All the scenes were way too short- it felt like the movie was two movies where they had to shorten the length by cutting all the scenes in half, especially hilarious was the "I cant watch this anymore!" 0.5 second scene- i had to agree with him ;<

And Yoda trash-talking was A+

The movie would have been a major waste of time if it werent for R2 and Yoda, and their combined 10 seconds of screen time. ;<

But that was just me ;<

[Immortal Goat]

I loved it. And yes, Lucas did point the finger at Bush throughout the movie. For example:


*-_-*SPOILERS*-_-*
Only Sith deal in absolutes.

[Carnivore]

Dark. Oh, so delightfully dark. Superior to the first two, although that's not saying much.

SPOILERS

Killing children and shooting Jedi in the back! Holy crap, that was sadistic. I loved it!

Anakin turning on Padme was great. Perfectly done.

I love it when Anakin caught fire. Nothing cooler than that!

So evil, I had to post under my evil name!

[Ninjavenom]

I popped a huge boner from the second it started, and it's still not gone. Too many cool things to recount, but i'll try SPOILERS to anyway.


I didn't think R2 was that funny, but he played a great bit part while he was around.

Anakin actually kicked ass and made up for the last movie's Anakin entirely by being ruthless and sadistic, as Carnivore said. The murdering of children was as dark and awesome as the blackest forests of the grim norse wintermoon. Also way awesome when he caught fire.



GENERAL GRIEVOUS.



Yoda was awesome, but a lot of people were like "ROFL OMGZ LOL" every time he did anything, which was kind of annoying. But shit, the lightsabertoss/impaling was excellent, as was the whole senate seat battle with Palpy.

Natalie Portman was cute :love

Mace Windu's murder was downright COLD-BLOODED. Also kinda gay that they never mention him again in the movie.

Anakin cutting down an entire room of helpless viceroy. And then he kills the one bastard mid-sentence. Awesome.

Super-sweer CGI, as always.

Excellent dogfight at the beginning, and the wookies were jawesome as well.

Use of force lightning. +5

Use of force choke. +10

Use of force push. +5

Use of force "make someone sleep". -5

Use of "beat the shit out of Crimson Guards with a gesture of the hand". +30

Outside of Vader's "noooo" scene, it's pretty much exactly what i wanted to and expected to see. Great way to make up for the last two movies and to feed my bloodthirst.

[pjalne]

I now declare this a full-on spoiler thread.

Yeah, I don't know about the NOOOOOO! thing myself. And I agree with Jin on the cut-in-half thing, most of the time it felt like something happened, and then it was over and didn't resonate through the rest of the movie at all.

And for once, I thought R2 actually was funny. I never really minded the guy, but I've always gone "Yeah, yeah, you're a submarine, that's hilarious, get out of the water so we can see Yoda." And I also loved that after years of fan bitching and speculation about why C3PO doesn't remember anything about Anakin, Lucas just throws in the dude from NYPD Blue going "Oh, and erase their memories while you're at it" to a random guy, and then that subplot is over.

[jin]

General Grievous was awesome, but killed way to easily. ;<

That was actually one of my biggest disappointments. ;<

A four-armed murderous, alien monster/Sith death machine, is killed because some guy from trainspotting shot his big red flashing spot. ;<

But Vader catching fire was hilarious. He already was lying on the ground with no arms or legs, then all of a sudden he was on fire. ;D

Also hilarious, is that it was okay for Obi-wan to just leave Anakin on a lava planet- with no arms or legs- on fire, just because, well, jedi cant kill an unarmed enemy. ;0

The entire last half was just a rushed attempt at tidily making a bridge between the prequels to the originals. Oh look! He used his magic force lightning for 2 minutes and he becomes a withered old lizard man, but for the remainer of the movie it is used every 20 seconds without any detrimental effects! :O

Darth Vader just wobbling around yelling "Noooooo!" was so awkwardly done. ;<

I guess it will sell a ton of merchandise though, and really- that is all that matters. ;p

[pjalne]

Also, General Grievous running and wheezing like crazy to answer the phone was the funniest moment in Star Wars ever. I don't mean involuntarily, it seriously was comedy gold.

EDIT: Hey, wait a minute. Is Palpatine Anakin's father?

[Carnivore]

That guy from Trainspotting, Ewan McGregor, kicks ass. He was an excellent Obi-Wan. I certainly hope your referring to him as that guy was not meant to be disparaging.

[the_dudefather]

last time i look at this thread as i dash through comments trying to avoid spoilers.

anyway, i really hope the actor who plays anakin got some lessons since episode 2 featuring his frowny face which he has 90% of the time.

[Mockery]

I haven't seen it yet, but someone please submit a decent review of it (whether you hated it or loved it) to the movie reviews site so I can post it on the main page. That'll allow people to start up a big discussion / flame-war about it.

http://www.i-mockery.com/moviereviews/submit.php

Thankee!

[Immortal Goat]

Done, Mockery. Hope that helps.

[Skulhedface]

I did one myself. Though mine's definitely going to come across as more fanboy-ish.

[Mockery]

Thanks guys, and it doesn't matter if it's fanboyish... I'll just pick whichever one I think is more welll-written.

[pjalne]

Oh crap, I forgot I was going to do a review of Bubba Ho-Tep. I'll get you one to put up once the Star Wars one has done its job.

[DeadKennedys]

Ewan MacGregor (Obi Wan) and Ian McDarmid (Palpatine) were excellent, and managed to create very deep characters quickly.

Anakin, however, gets poutier until the end, when he gets badass.

"Master Skywalker, there's too many of them. Whatever will we do?"
Ksshh.... :lol

[Mockery]

Oh crap, I forgot I was going to do a review of Bubba Ho-Tep. I'll get you one to put up once the Star Wars one has done its job.
Cool, yeah I leave the featured reviews up for about a week, so anytime next week would be cool. Just lemme know. :o

[DeadKennedys]

General Grievous was awesome, but killed way to easily. ;<

That was actually one of my biggest disappointments. ;<

A four-armed murderous, alien monster/Sith death machine, is killed because some guy from trainspotting shot his big red flashing spot. ;<

The entire last half was just a rushed attempt at tidily making a bridge between the prequels to the originals. Oh look! He used his magic force lightning for 2 minutes and he becomes a withered old lizard man, but for the remainer of the movie it is used every 20 seconds without any detrimental effects! :O

Darth Vader just wobbling around yelling "Noooooo!" was so awkwardly done. ;<


I was very disappointed with how quickly Greivous died too, even though he easily had the coolest death of any character. The problem was, he was weakened in the chest from when Windu stabbed him in the cartoon, and although he could throw those sabers around he couldn't use the force and wasn't nearly as skilled as Obi-Wan.

I assumed that Palpatine was deformed because it was the power of his hatred, his casting the lightning, and the power of good casting it right back in his face. Just casting it at Yoda wouldn't have had the same effect a second time.

Watching Darth scream "Noooo" and waddle was actually painful for me to watch, but overall I was very happy with the movie. Especially all the limb severing :)

[Ninjavenom]

Yeah, Palpy's face changed because he had the lightning shot back into it, and he was finally revealed to be the sith lord, so he didn't really give a shit about hiding it anymore. He defied age anyway, he was the one who killed the ultimate sith lord or whoever it was. Was that a reference to the books or comics?

[Studio8]

I like when Yoda said that he was going to seclude himself somewhere for a long time because he was so sad.

And I like it when Count Dooku (?) bit it in the beginning. That was way neat.

The ending, minus the "Nooooo!" was so good. Both getting medical treatment and all...awesome.

[EverythingWillSuck]

Yeah, Palpy's face changed because he had the lightning shot back into it, and he was finally revealed to be the sith lord, so he didn't really give a shit about hiding it anymore. He defied age anyway, he was the one who killed the ultimate sith lord or whoever it was. Was that a reference to the books or comics?

I think only me and some other people in the theater found Pal's deformed face funny.

Especially when he was looking over Anakin and going 'yyyyyeeeeeesssss...'

[Dr. Boogie]

I was laughing when right after his face melting, he starts talking to Anakin and his voice sounds like a series of long burps.

[Dole]

It was quite good, certainly better than the other two, BUT:
Ewen Macgregor and Haydan whatsis were better, but still pretty poor.
Anakin turning to the dark side was pretty shoddily done..it was just the emporer saying 'oh GO on' a few times, and that seemed to do it.
The ending was great, but like someone else said above, why the fuck did obi wan leave anakin like that? he must have been just a touch embarrased to then find out, whoops, anakin lived and proceeded to co-run the empire killing lots of people.
I love the fact anakin got so fucked up, and then burned (so he actually started to resemble anakin in jedi with the mask off), but the 'NOOOOO!' was just UNBELEIVABLY shit..really crigeworthy..which is a shame, because the bit where they put him back together was cool.
The CG looked a lot better than the other two, and all the action was really well done.
And why the fuck bother putting the wookies in if they are only there standing around for two mins, then a tiny bit of action?.. and then...'Before you go yoda, I would just like to point out that THIS WOOKIE IS CALLED CHEWBACCA...YOU KNOW, THE FAMOUS ONE FROM THE GOOD FILMS'.

In short: breezes

[AChimp]

I creamed myself several time during this one. After the credits rolled, I was spent and curled up into a little ball and had to be carried out of the theatre.

Anakin killing the kids was awesome, and the Padme choking was an unexpected treat. Best divorce ever! I was expecting him to smack her around or something, not use his Force powers on her.

I was kinda disappointed at how Mace Windu ends up going down like a wuss, but overall, everything about this movie is so much better than the first two, we should just forget that those ones ever existed and say that Star Wars only consists of 3 - 6. The special effects were really good this time and I didn't notice too many places where they looked blatantly out of place like in II.

Did anyone else notice how they made Anakin look like Luke (hair, black clothes, etc.)? And Padme's funeral at the end? I would've. :yum

[DeadKennedys]

I was impressed with how even in the face, anakin came to resemble luke just enough, and his burn wounds were perfect.

The Obi-Wan/Vader fight was fucking amazing, and all the decapitations and dismemberments throughout the movie were unexpected and wonderful.

And Dole, Obi-Wan left Anakin like that because the Jedi code forbids them to kill an unarmed opponent (remember how anakin violated that by killing dooku and said "it wasn't the jedi way"?). I guess it was alright to leave him for dead, though. The emperor still had his lightning so I guess it was alright if Mace killed him, especially understanding the circumstances the other Jedi would have to let him off. I didn't mind so much how he died, but that he was never again mentioned as if he hadn't existed.

[Dr. Boogie]

So what part of the Jedi code says that it's ok to let your apprentice burn to death? Granted, it says you're not supposed to kill unarmed prisoners, but I would think there would be something in there about giving your former best friend a quick and relatively painless death instead of a long, agonizing one.

[AChimp]

Well, I think that it's understandable that he wasn't mentioned afterwards because the only Jedi who would've known about it were all dead. Anakin leads the troops into the Jedi Temple a few hours after he became Vader.

[pjalne]

Yeah, it makes sense within the continuity of the movie, but that doesn't mean it's well-written. Very few things in this movie echo through the whole story, and the whole thing sprawls without the branches ever crossing each other again. Sure, it ties into the first movie, but unto itself it's disconnected.

[bigtimecow]

i enjoyed this film very much but i do wish some things were done:

1. get rid of the first 20 minutes, this is star wars the movie not star wars the sitcom
2. more wookie battling, it lasted what 5 minutes?
3. atleast make the jedi's fight before they die, i thought they were jedi masters not asswipes with lightsabers who die from 6 niggas with guns.
4. have samuel l. jackson say "mothafucka" after every line.
5. make the movies 20 FUCKING YEARS AGO when 4, 5, and 6 came out.

but yes, it was grand.

[HickMan]

I thought, overall, it was pretty good. Best new Star Wars yet by far. Which, in fact, I liked the first two. There definetly were 'what the hell is this about?' moments in it, but It's not so bad that it takes me out of the movie. The whole Anakin "I love you" and Padme "I love you too" sequences were boring.

The Falcon docked into the senate building :eek

[executioneer]

this movie gave me a boner

[the_dudefather]

just saw it, awesomeness :)

i was a bit disapointed with greivous, especially since he kicked ass in the toonami series.

when anakin answered the kids question with a lightsaber some guy in the audience squealed with excitment.

anyone else spot the milenium falcon? (at least i think i did)

[Jim Duncan - Weather]

"Good bye Chewbacca, I will miss you."

What the FUCK was that shit?

[the_dudefather]

i was almost expecting yoda to say "dont worry chewbacca, ill be right here"

:glowingfinger

[bigtimecow]

the falcon is hidden somewhere in the film?

tell me where, i'm going to see it again with my dad sometime soon.

:love :love :love

[the_dudefather]

just after the scene when the ship crash lands and it shows a transport landing at the senate(?) building, at the bottom of the screen you see what looks like the falcon coming in to land.

[Yggdrasill]

A lot of people in the audience laughed when Vader took his first robotic breaths. Was that supposed to be funny? Because I was all in suspense. :/
Did anyone find it strange that nobody, not even the Jedi, knew Padme was going to have twins until the robots that have her in the stirrups(or I think some sort of box?) say "Surprise! It's twins! You didn't sense that?" and Padme instantly names them like magic?
If you yell "Wheres the Enterprise?" during the opening ship battle, several people will seriously try to use the force to kill you, I swear to God.

[HickMan]

I thought it was funny when Padme named Luke and Leah. 'EHHH EHHH EHHH! LEAH! OMPH UGH UGGGHHHH LUKE! :playsmysticalmusic and then she dies.

[ScruU2wice]

What the hell was yoda talking about in the end when he mentions talking to qui gon jin?

And I don't know why anakin felt a little jipped when palpatine never showed him how to save his wife. but the Palpatines vague background thing was pretty interesting.

I thought it was hilarious when yoda gets a big thunderbolt and while he's lying on the floor palpatine's assistant just kinda awkwardly walks outta the room.

and in the "noooooo" scene you know someone said "ummm, mr. lucas.. umm I think the movie could do without that line." and then lucas fires him.

This movie definatally made me think that lucas did not have his shit planned out before he made the episodes 4-6. Like how no one ever mentions Padame ever again, or how mace windu just kinda is never mentioned again, and how you didn't really need to be good at using a lightsaber or the force to kill Palpatine, you just needed to be strong enough to be throw him down a big hole.

[Chojin]

Just saw it and thought it was easily the best of the first three. Had a few elements over the originals as well, though these movies tend to make the Jedi seem godlike compared to 4-6. Well, at least until clones start shooting at them.

But I had some questions:

Why does a robot cough?

Mace Windu can kill the Emperor, but Yoda apparently can't?

Anakin accepting the dark side was handled about as well as they do it on Monday night RAW. Consequentially, he should have appeared before the senate with a microphone and given a speech that opened with "You know, everywhere I go, people ask me the same thing: Why, Anakin, why?"

Yoda doesn't succeed in killing the Emperor, so he throws in the towel or something? When they get the gang back together, they don't decide to give it another college try? I mean, for fuck's sake, they injected two jedi into the middle of an interstellar war on the lead enemy's ship to save the senate majority leader, but they won't take three people to their own planet to go murder an old man?

There was really no point in the wookie battle scenes aside from showing Chewbacca. That isn't really a question, but it was queerish.

Jin was right about every scene lasting 5 seconds. Everyone is more or less obligated to see this film, so there's no reason not to make these LOTR length.

That dude that hangs out with Palpatine at the end is with the Republic, right? He doesn't care that this guy is a Sith Lord at all?

I thought the bit about 'oh, by the way, erase the protocol droid's memory' was hilarious for how short and obvious a tie of a loose end it was. It would have been more tactful to suddenly pan out and show that the entire series was just Mario's dream.

Other than that, I really liked it. I thought the end was handled very well.

[Spectre X]

Grievous was a cyborg.

Also, in the Clone Wars cartoon Mace Windu fucks up his breathing aparatus something fierce with the Force.

[Dr. V]

Damn that was great. I was all sad when Vader looks over the lava as Padme is showing up and he has a tear running down his face. Like "I wish I hadn't but theres nothing I can do now." I also found it was very ironic, like a Greek tragedy. He only accepts the dark side to save her, and accepting it is what makes her give up on living.
And the noooooo scene was totally forced. It would have been much more Vader-ish if he hadn't said anything. and btw, they guy they give the droids to isn't just some guy, it's Wedge's dad! :connections

[pjalne]

I thought the bit about 'oh, by the way, erase the protocol droid's memory' was hilarious for how short and obvious a tie of a loose end it was. It would have been more tactful to suddenly pan out and show that the entire series was just Mario's dream.

I absolutely loved that bit. It's like Lucas was going "Here's how it fucking happened, now shut up about it." The only thing that could have done the moment better was a spit-take from C3PO.

[maggiekarp]

I heard somewhere that Samuel L. Jackson got the initials "BMF" engraved on his lightsaber...

[soundtest]

It would have been more tactful to suddenly pan out and show that the entire series was just Mario's dream.

:lol

[Dr. V]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO (http://darthno.ytmnd.com/)

[ScruU2wice]

Mace Windu can kill the Emperor, but Yoda apparently can't?

Yoda was going to fuck up palpatine, but he kinda just quits after falling a couple times.

I like how the Emperor just randomly comes up with the name vader.

[nothing4buddha]

my opinion: this movie sucked and it was a good way for star wars to die.

[jin]

I like Ewan McGregor ;<

"Hey Anakin, it turns out some guy, somewhere, somehow, may have- from anecdotal evidence- learnt how to make people immortal! But he is dead now, like your girlfriend will be, in those dreams you havent told me about."

"Oh no! I must convert to the dark side and kill everyone i have ever known and loved."

"Lol okay."

[ScruU2wice]

jin hit the nail on the head.

[bigtimecow]

padme saying "i'm pregnant" make me shudder.

made me feel like i was watching an afterschool special.


but that mario's dream thing is :lol

[ScruU2wice]

someone posted this on another board

There was no master plan for 6, 9 or even 3 movies back in the 70s. He wrote a screenplay, and the characters had some back-story. Any competent writer (and even some incompetent ones) give their characters back-story. Who are they, where did they come from, etc. That doesn't mean he had the idea for anymore than one movie.

They wanted Star Wars to seem like an old movie serial, so they made it seem like a chapter from a bigger story. Putting a "IV" at the beginning was pretty arbitrary.

In 1975 by Lucas' representatives contacted Alan Dean Foster to do the novelization of the first Star Wars film, plus an original sequel "Splinter of the Mind's Eye". There were no plans for a movie sequel at this point, and there wouldn't have been one without the box-office and merchandising success of the original film.

The entire storyline of the series is made up as it went along.

Alec Guinness' Obi-Wan was originally going to survive Episode IV. Check the pre-production sketch of the medal sequence. Why kill him off? No guarantee you'll get the good actor's to sign on for another movie (assuming you ever get to make one!)

Darth Vader wasn't Luke's dad until the end of filming Empire... or maybe Jedi. A script for Return of the Jedi was written in which Vader was not Luke's father—he was revealed as having lied in Empire Strikes Back. Lucas even claims that he allowed his collaborator, Leigh Bracket, to work on Empire Strikes Back without telling her the twist ending he had in mind…which is a fascinating definition of 'collaboration'.

Why was Luke attacked by an ice monster in Empire? Serious car crash messed up his face after the first movie. They needed to explain why the actor looked like a different guy.

Yoda didn't show up until a script writer's conference in 1980. Handy replacement for the killed off Ben.

Why did Yoda say Luke wasn't their last hope? Why was there "another"? Mark Hammill wanted more money (or something) and said he might not do anymore Star Wars films. If they couldn't work out a deal with him, they needed an out. Who was "the other"? Maybe it was Harrison Ford or Billy Dee Williams -- it didn't matter, it was a backup. It let Mark Hammill know he shouldn't get too demanding.

Leia certainly wasn't Luke's sister until filming Jedi. Why else would he have so much incestous love/kissing in the first 2 movies? Han Shooting first wasn't part of the original vision... but that WAS? Yeah. He needed another "Vader says something to make Luke angry" line, and that's what he picked. Keep in mind the voice actor (James Earl Jones) isn't doing his lines while David Prowse and Mark Hamill were doing their scenes. Hey, that means Leia could be "the other". Sweet!

Anyone who's made a movie and is married knows this to be true -- if you're working on a script, chances are you're going to ask your husband/wife for their opinion. Maybe get their feedback on the dialogue you've written. George Lucas' wife was ALSO the editor for the first Star Wars!

For the next couple of movies he had help with the scripts from other folk. Not the new trilogy though. That's allllll George.

No help with script writing. No backstory for the characters. No humbleness to take suggestions from others. No worries about not having the money to do a sequel. No worries about whether you'll have your actors for the next film.

[Rez]

...

i actually liked it a lot.
and i'm that guy who was talking about how star wars sucked earlier (mostly because i havent actually seen it in awhile and i remember mainly the awful bits).

but yeah, way surprising, and i like how things tied up.
some dumb parts of course, but damn, it actually felt like a star wars movie for once..

isn't anakin a little too retarded to be the main cause for the the fall of the republic? that guy had dick for critical thinking skills. train a jedi, but tell him why it's as important as it's made out to be so that palpatine's cheaply construed nonsense could have easily been dismissed.

[Mockery]

Alrighty, it's now the featured movie review on the hompage of I-Mockery:
http://www.i-mockery.com/moviereviews/detailed.php?id=1403

Looking forward to seeing fanboys arguing about it in the comments section :o

[Rez]

well, er, yes, i agree completely.

[pjalne]

someone posted this on another board

There was no master plan for 6, 9 or even 3 movies back in the 70s. He wrote a screenplay, and the characters had some back-story. Any competent writer (and even some incompetent ones) give their characters back-story. Who are they, where did they come from, etc. That doesn't mean he had the idea for anymore than one movie.

They wanted Star Wars to seem like an old movie serial, so they made it seem like a chapter from a bigger story. Putting a "IV" at the beginning was pretty arbitrary.

In 1975 by Lucas' representatives contacted Alan Dean Foster to do the novelization of the first Star Wars film, plus an original sequel "Splinter of the Mind's Eye". There were no plans for a movie sequel at this point, and there wouldn't have been one without the box-office and merchandising success of the original film.

The entire storyline of the series is made up as it went along.

Alec Guinness' Obi-Wan was originally going to survive Episode IV. Check the pre-production sketch of the medal sequence. Why kill him off? No guarantee you'll get the good actor's to sign on for another movie (assuming you ever get to make one!)

Darth Vader wasn't Luke's dad until the end of filming Empire... or maybe Jedi. A script for Return of the Jedi was written in which Vader was not Luke's father—he was revealed as having lied in Empire Strikes Back. Lucas even claims that he allowed his collaborator, Leigh Bracket, to work on Empire Strikes Back without telling her the twist ending he had in mind…which is a fascinating definition of 'collaboration'.

Why was Luke attacked by an ice monster in Empire? Serious car crash messed up his face after the first movie. They needed to explain why the actor looked like a different guy.

Yoda didn't show up until a script writer's conference in 1980. Handy replacement for the killed off Ben.

Why did Yoda say Luke wasn't their last hope? Why was there "another"? Mark Hammill wanted more money (or something) and said he might not do anymore Star Wars films. If they couldn't work out a deal with him, they needed an out. Who was "the other"? Maybe it was Harrison Ford or Billy Dee Williams -- it didn't matter, it was a backup. It let Mark Hammill know he shouldn't get too demanding.

Leia certainly wasn't Luke's sister until filming Jedi. Why else would he have so much incestous love/kissing in the first 2 movies? Han Shooting first wasn't part of the original vision... but that WAS? Yeah. He needed another "Vader says something to make Luke angry" line, and that's what he picked. Keep in mind the voice actor (James Earl Jones) isn't doing his lines while David Prowse and Mark Hamill were doing their scenes. Hey, that means Leia could be "the other". Sweet!

Anyone who's made a movie and is married knows this to be true -- if you're working on a script, chances are you're going to ask your husband/wife for their opinion. Maybe get their feedback on the dialogue you've written. George Lucas' wife was ALSO the editor for the first Star Wars!

For the next couple of movies he had help with the scripts from other folk. Not the new trilogy though. That's allllll George.

No help with script writing. No backstory for the characters. No humbleness to take suggestions from others. No worries about not having the money to do a sequel. No worries about whether you'll have your actors for the next film.

Some of that is true, but a lot is lore passed on from one internet message board to another and either completely twisted out of shape or untrue to begin with. Some good points, but paying any attention to what this guy is going on about is pointless since you can't know exactly what's bullshit or not.

[McClain]

Mace Windu can kill the Emperor, but Yoda apparently can't?

Yoda was going to fuck up palpatine, but he kinda just quits after falling a couple times.

I like how the Emperor just randomly comes up with the name vader.

Mace Windu wasn't good enough to kill the Emperor. The Emperor was playing down his powers to influence Anakin. It worked. He didn't have to kill Mace. Anakin did.

[ScruU2wice]

I think that the emperor was really giving it his all because if he was holding back he'd probably woulda wanted to keep his pretty face to talk to the senate.

But the only reason the Emperor got anywhere was because he was alot smarter. and by smarter I mean he was a psychic and knew what was going on in all parts of the universe at all times.

It still bothers me that Anakin doesn't feel fucked over, after his wife dies and all

[Rez]

well, he used his disfigurement as proof that the jedi attacked him, so i think it work more in his favor than anything else.

[bigtimecow]

actually, i read somewhere in an interview with hammil that when lucas originally approached him with the movie idea, it was set out to be 9 films.

[Spectre X]

I actually think that Palpatine was always that ugly and was using the Dark Side to cover up the fact that his Dark Side prowess made him uglier than Rosie O'Donnel whose face had just been gone over with a chainsaw.

Just remember that Anakin got weird eyes and everything when he turned to the Dark Side.

[Ninjavenom]

Yep, the dark side alters one's appearance with frequent use. The only sith lords that look good are the pussies who never use their powers.

[xenosoul]

Mace Windu can kill the Emperor, but Yoda apparently can't?

Yoda was going to fuck up palpatine, but he kinda just quits after falling a couple times.

I like how the Emperor just randomly comes up with the name vader.

Mace Windu wasn't good enough to kill the Emperor. The Emperor was playing down his powers to influence Anakin. It worked. He didn't have to kill Mace. Anakin did.

Exactly!! Im suprised some people didnt get that.

[xenosoul]

Heres the couple of things I liked disliked about this film.

I did not like the fact that general grievous got his ass kicked so quick, and the same goes for all the jedi that got murdered. I mean what the hell was that? A jedi master that cant take out a few clone troopers is something that shouldnt exist. In episode two I saw the same jedi's take out an army of battle droids and what not, but here they cant take out like 7 clone troopers. Bullshit...
Another thing that pissed me off was that when anakin fought obi-wan they had the same color lightsabers.. I guess the only choice for a jedi who is not a master is blue.
The emperors disfigurement was way too rubbery.. It was like his skin was made of wax when it was melting.

Some of the things I really liked was when general grievous pulled out not 3 lightsabers, but 4. Even the way he fought was killer, too bad he got his ass whooped so quick cause I really think that battle could have been more fruitful.

I liked the way anakin just started obeying on the emperors demand. There where not any questions asked at all. Kill the jedi? Ok. Kill the sepratists? No problem. When anakin was a jedi all he did was think about things. I think its much better for anakin to not think at all and take his orders like a man. Surely if he would have done this as a jedi he would have eventually ranked as a master jedi.

I really loved this movie. Its easily the best of the first three.. As far as favorite go I think Empire and Jedi are always going to be my favorites.

[Emu]

Heathens and sinners, depart from this movie, or you will go to Hell! JESUS is the Force! (http://www.ooze.com/toolofsatan/)

[executioneer]

ha ha ha! lol!

[Dr. V]

OMG thats the funniest thing I've ever read! I wanna get beamed up to Capitan Jesus! Don't get me wrong, I'm christian, but shit on a shingle that was stupid!

[Skulhedface]

haha holy crap

I've only posted two movie reviews ever and both of them made the spotlight!

thanks rog and staff lol

[DeadKennedys]

Another thing that pissed me off was that when anakin fought obi-wan they had the same color lightsabers.. I guess the only choice for a jedi who is not a master is blue.

I thought that showed a nice contrast between the two jedi, almost like anakin clinging onto the good part of him by a last thread.

Also the jedi got their asses kicked by the clone troopers so easily because they were just caught off guard. Not the best excuse, but still...

I thought it was pretty powerful when you saw the clone troopers and the conehead guy running on the snowy bridge and you know what's gonna happen, then you see their boots stop and the look in that jedi's face and bang. I got a little icky chill then.

I squealed with delight when anakin was about to kill the younglings. Jin did a perfect screenplay of anakin's leanings toward the dark side, but I thought they handled his first evil deeds very well.

What did they mean about qui-gon and learning to commune with the dead? Did Qui-Gon discover how to appear as that blue spirit? I guess he wasn't so useless after all....

I really liked all the extra violence in this one. It wasn't ridiculous Kill Bill violence but enough to give the movie what it needed. Yoda's javelin lightsaber, his decapitations, Dooku's losing both hands and execution, Anakin's losing all his limbs at once and immolation. :wank

And the Emperor's forehead looked like a butt :lol

[Carnivore]

Mace Windu could have killed the Emperor and would have had Anakin not intervened. Mace was the second most powerful Jedi Master.

Yoda could have killed the Emperor, but he was racing against the clock a bit. As soon as they started tearing up the Senate chambers, it was only a matter of time before the clone troopers started pouring in. Then the odds would be decidedly against him.

[ScruU2wice]

Does anyone else wanna buy one of those jesus is the force shirts?

[McClain]

Mace Windu could have killed the Emperor and would have had Anakin not intervened. Mace was the second most powerful Jedi Master.

Yoda could have killed the Emperor, but he was racing against the clock a bit. As soon as they started tearing up the Senate chambers, it was only a matter of time before the clone troopers started pouring in. Then the odds would be decidedly against him.

By virture of being the 2nd most powerful Jedi master still doesn't mean Mace was strong enough to kill the Emperor. I'm not a huge Star Wars buff but I found it pretty obvious what was going on. If Mace was so damn good he would have disabled Anakin and killed the Emperor - but he didn't... his pussy ass got gatt3d!

[ItalianStereotype]

What did they mean about qui-gon and learning to commune with the dead? Did Qui-Gon discover how to appear as that blue spirit? I guess he wasn't so useless after all....

it hadn't really clicked with me until you said that. now that you've said that though, it just seems like another instance where Lucas is covering his ass by throwing a two second explanation at us. another "wipe that protocol droid's memory" moment.

[Ant10708]

Yeah its just to explain how Yoda and Obi- Wan talk to Luke from beyond the grave. Quin only talked to Yoda because yoda knew the skill apparently which is why Obi needed to learn so he could talk to quin too. So who taught Luke?

[Dr. V]

Does anyone else wanna buy one of those jesus is the force shirts?

Me

[the_dudefather]

when anakin answered the kids question with a lightsaber some guy in the audience squealed with excitment.



I squealed with delight when anakin was about to kill the younglings.


IT WAS YOU! :lol

[Krythor]

I read somewhere that the book adaptation features C3PO going on about how he's going to tell Leia about all the great adventures her parents had and blah blah blah, so that's why NYPD Blue decides to wipe his memory.

It kind of takes some of the humour out of it to think of it that way, but I was hoping for a bit of Empire Strikes Back style "shut the fuck up Threepio"'s in this one.

[Skulhedface]

Just a thought since we've brought up Mace owning the Emperor but Yoda lost:

There's one line that kinda brought this into question from the second movie; "...as wise as Master Yoda and as powerful as Master Windu..."

That line did raise my eyebrow for a few seconds, as if the second movie were trying to imply that Mace were more powerful than Yoda, but Yoda was smarter...

*shrugs*

[Dr. V]

Maybe we're all thinking too much.

[executioneer]

captain picard is TOTALLY better than captain kirk you guys

[Dr. V]

No way, the Cylons are the best you guys.

[DeadKennedys]

Alright, I just downloaded a torrent of star wars. But, I don't have the correct codec to see the video, only listen to the sound. I downloaded the codec pack from microsoft but it didn't fix it. Where can I get the tools to watch this?

[pjalne]

At the cinema.

[executioneer]

yeah dude were not gonna help you commit a CRIME :rolleyes

[DeadKennedys]

I just found out today that Lucas is suing BitTorrent for providing users a way to steal his movie. Well, let them take the fall...

Anyway, my computer teacher taught me how to watch movies that need codecs you can find, so I'm using DivX Player.

[Dr. V]

Would you steal a car? Would you rob a bank? What makes you think stealing movies is any different! Piracy is a crime punishable by law! Stop movie piracy!

Or we can use this one: This is joe, he's a stage hand, and he makes movies. He works for a living on movies you watch every day. Do you really want to take food out of Joe's children's mouths? Dont steal movies!!

[pjalne]

http://darthdolenz.ytmnd.com/

[Command Prompt]

I finally saw it and managed to ignore everyone that was trying to ruin it for me. This was the coolest fucking movie in a long time. I almost creamed my pants when that general robot thing pulled out 4 fucking lightsabres.

Anyone who hated this movie is a cynical cockfucking douchebag was obviously never a kid.

[Carnivore]

I've seen the movie three times now, and I can't help myself from laughing everytime I hear "NOOOOOOOOOO!"

[pjalne]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4575291.stm

Wonder how long it takes for that video to make it to the internet.

[Emu]

How do star wars fans manage to be such raging idiots?

[Chojin]

God i hope that video hits the internet :<

[xenosoul]

Would you steal a car? Would you rob a bank? What makes you think stealing movies is any different! Piracy is a crime punishable by law! Stop movie piracy!

Or we can use this one: This is joe, he's a stage hand, and he makes movies. He works for a living on movies you watch every day. Do you really want to take food out of Joe's children's mouths? Dont steal movies!!

YEah I'd steal a car and rob a bank with the stolen car, so why not steal movies. Movies are free free free

[Dr. V]

But what about poor Joe?

[xenosoul]

Joe can get a job doing something else or his kids can starve.

[DeadKennedys]

George Lucas is fucking rich. He won't miss my 7 bucks. And I say "my" even though I know I'm not alone by doing this because for the other people that's their own damn problem.

[Immortal Goat]

I hate that rationale.

"Oh, he's rich, so he won't miss the money" blah blah blah

Everyone involved in that movie worked their asses off, and for people to buy pirated copies robs them, not just George Lucas, of hard earned money. Do you think the film crew are fucking millionares? No, they aren't.

[Big Papa Goat]

well they should get some of groege lucases money

[ScruU2wice]

and then we should make a classless society...

[Chojin]

Wah wah wah. Internet piracy is a fact of life these days. They can't stifle it, so they should seek alternate ways of selling their movies that dissuade people from getting it illegaly. Like letting people watch the movie online once for a fee or something.

[executioneer]

jesus i'm sorry i brought it up >:

[Command Prompt]

If I HAD to find something wrong with this movie its that I was unimpressed with who was behind that big scary mask. When I was a little kid all riled up about these movies, Vader was seriously the biggest bad ass villan ever. Blowing up planets, chopping off limbs, cutting up old Jedi Masters like a late night TV knife through a shoe, choking people to death with his fucking mind, c'mon, not many villans can live up to that kind of skulldaggery.

How fucking chilling was it when Luke was all like "Pfft, I'm not afraid to face vader," and Yoda turned all dark and monotone and said "You will be, oh you will be." Man, if a Muppet can deliver lines like that then this Vader guy must be a SEROIOUS badass. VADER. The only other name in the world so sinister that it can make people shit their pants is MALCHOVICH, and thats a way distant second.

So who's behind the mask? Vader was so cold, calculating and meciless it was a shock that underneath it all was an agnst ridden teenager who was all bent up over his old lady and his mom. It was a little dissapointing. I expected someone much older and having gone through way more fucked up shit. But they pulled it off. Those last 10 minutes of the movie where probably the best movie moments in a LONG time. The look on anakin's eyes as they were lowering the mask onto his head, the way he was thrashing around on the bed, and that little pause right before he took his first mechanical breath and the way the dust in the air moved around. Fucking gourgeous. Lucas is really good at the "holy shit! thats fucking COOL" cinemetography but he really should of learned the kind that adds depth and lets action speak for emotion. Well, I guess he did in the last ten minutes. Better late than never.

What a fucking cool movie.

[Dr. V]

If I HAD to find something wrong with this movie its that I was unimpressed with who was behind that big scary mask. When I was a little kid all riled up about these movies, Vader was seriously the biggest bad ass villan ever. Blowing up planets, chopping off limbs, cutting up old Jedi Masters like a late night TV knife through a shoe, choking people to death with his fucking mind, c'mon, not many villans can live up to that kind of skulldaggery.

How fucking chilling was it when Luke was all like "Pfft, I'm not afraid to face vader," and Yoda turned all dark and monotone and said "You will be, oh you will be." Man, if a Muppet can deliver lines like that then this Vader guy must be a SEROIOUS badass. VADER. The only other name in the world so sinister that it can make people shit their pants is MALCHOVICH, and thats a way distant second.

So who's behind the mask? Vader was so cold, calculating and meciless it was a shock that underneath it all was an agnst ridden teenager who was all bent up over his old lady and his mom. It was a little dissapointing. I expected someone much older and having gone through way more fucked up shit. But they pulled it off. Those last 10 minutes of the movie where probably the best movie moments in a LONG time. The look on anakin's eyes as they were lowering the mask onto his head, the way he was thrashing around on the bed, and that little pause right before he took his first mechanical breath and the way the dust in the air moved around. Fucking gourgeous. Lucas is really good at the "holy shit! thats fucking COOL" cinemetography but he really should of learned the kind that adds depth and lets action speak for emotion. Well, I guess he did in the last ten minutes. Better late than never.

What a fucking cool movie.

What he said.

[Chojin]

thanks for quoting all that, otherwise I may have confused your approval for something far more sinister.

[Dr. V]

Thanks for letting me know.

[Chojin]

I'm sorry, were you talking to me? If so, could you quote my entire response verbatim to avoid confusion?

[Matt Harty]

I'm sorry, were you talking to me? If so, could you quote my entire response verbatim to avoid confusion?

lol

[Dr. V]

I'm sorry, were you talking to me? If so, could you quote my entire response verbatim to avoid confusion?

lol
LOL!!!

[executioneer]

i disagree

[ScruU2wice]

who's in your avatar willie?

[executioneer]

crispin hellion glover, badass mother

[Rez]

Wah wah wah. Internet piracy is a fact of life these days. They can't stifle it, so they should seek alternate ways of selling their movies that dissuade people from getting it illegaly. Like letting people watch the movie online once for a fee or something.

:lol

internet piracy is a fact of life=we should stop complaining about the distributing of inferior quality movies over the internet?

i think the main way to get people back in the theater is to lower ticket prices. i dont believe there's any goddamn way watching it on your 18 inch screen would replace going to the movies, but it's just that it's too damn expensive. i dont think any online solution to movies will work. if people are willing to store movies on their hard drive and treat it as if they actually own the movie (which is pathetic), theyre not going to give a shit enough to pay any money at all for it.

[Chojin]

I'm not saying that people should legalize piracy or anything, I'm just saying that adapting your sales methods to appeal to these people is a much better solution than trying to scare them out of doing it.

[Ant10708]

YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A HANDBAG WOULD YOU?

PIRACY IS STEALING

very effective commerical they show at the movies to the people actually paying to see it legally.

[Krythor]

If you download movies, you're funding terrorism.

[the_dudefather]

If you download movies, you're funding terrorism.

:lol

very true

[pjalne]

There was one thing about the movie I didn't get. When somebody shot the ship at the beginning and the whole thing started to tip over, why the hell would people start sliding down the floors? They're in space, it's not like it's the Titanic.

[ScruU2wice]

because of the gravity of the big planet

your numbers are fubar so I'm gonna explain it with the equation gravitational froce= GmM/(r)^2.

umm the planet looked like it was 3 times the size of the earth so that would be like 900000000000000 kg and like 5000000000 m around. and the ship probably weighed like 50000 kg or something so when you plug it in its someting like 400000 N but I don't like that so I'm gonna make it in english and it's like 5 bajillion Ilbs.

so you can see how the ship could never have penetrated to the center of jedi temples.

[Skulhedface]

Well, by that line of thinking, they shouldn't be walking either. They should be floating.

You're right, it bothered me too, but with most any movie I watch, I remember the Prime Directive:

It's only a movie.

I've had to tell myself this on occasion just so I don't hate a movie for fucking something, somewhere, up.

[ScruU2wice]

plus the space battle wouldn't make any sounds either.

[Ninjavenom]

i was under the impression that it was an upper atmosphere battle.

[ScruU2wice]

there wouldn't be all that heat then while it was re-entering the atmosphere.

[pjalne]

Well, by that line of thinking, they shouldn't be walking either. They should be floating.

You're right, it bothered me too, but with most any movie I watch, I remember the Prime Directive:

It's only a movie.

I've had to tell myself this on occasion just so I don't hate a movie for fucking something, somewhere, up.

I think there's supposed to be a gravity generator in the hull of ships in Star Wars. I don't know if I've heard it in one of the movies or if I just assumed it.

[Krythor]

DON'T YOU GET IT? The laser blasts temporarily WEAKENED the ships gravity generator so they only slid across the floor instead of floating I thought it was pretty genius myself you guys.

[Protoclown]

Here are my opinions on the movie, from my gay, gay livejournal:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/protoclown/91896.html

[Chojin]

I think the girl in your LJ that thinks that Sin City was sexist is borderline retarded. My girlfriend attended a feminism course in college and brought me home stories of the ridiculous bullshit they push there. It's worse than the church has ever been.

And I'm probably the most feminine guy here aside from Davin, so it isn't my CAPITALIST PATRIARCHAL AGENDA.

[Carnivore]

http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/

http://vaderlukeno.ytmnd.com/

[ScruU2wice]

http://padme.ytmnd.com/

[Rongi]

while i enjoyed parts of the movie, i mainly thought it was a turd. the beginning was completely stupid. it was like watching Mad Tv do a parody of star wars. the middle was ok, showing how all the jedis got killed and the chillens gettin diced up ( the fact that the jedi could kill like 20 of those friggen soldiers in aotc but couldnt take on a few was pretty stupid ). and the end was kinda lame, especially the nooooo thing.

[Chojin]

I liked it, but it makes me sad to think that movies like these not only compete with actual good movies, but beat them in sales and popularity.

Like how episode 1-3 undoubtedly did better than Peter Jackson's LOTR series, which are a better series in every way and directed by a man with actual talent.

[Immortal Goat]

While I did dislike the "nooooo" thing at first, and thought it was very Un-Vader of him, I understand why that scene played out like it did.

Think about it, Anakin was a very screamy kid, was he not? How the fuck would a new name and change of clothes change that? The Vader we know and love from the original trilogy hasn't come about yet simply because that was a battle hardened, deeply self-loathing creature. Anakin hadn't been through all that he would be by the time A New Hope happened.

So, in short, stop whining about how Vader is "ruined". He fucking gets there, it just takes time.

[Chojin]

If you ask me, he should have just made the 3 without worrying about tying into 4-6, and then remade 4-6 to iron out the inconsistencies (like Street Fighter did when they remade 2 with Alpha 3). It'd mean more money for dickhead and less worrying about tying things together.

I'll miss you, Chewbacca.

[Geggy]

I don't mean to sound like a bitchboy, I mean they're only movies but I'm against movie piracy. It's the reason the price for movie tickets that are so jacked up to a ridiculous amount. Although it would be hypocrite of me to call the motherfuckrs out because I pay half price for movie tickets. I buy my ticket through those touch screen machine thingy and I select senior citizen. Learn the systen, fuck the system, rage agaisnt the machine am I right?

Anyhoo I watched apisode 3 last night. Definitely the darkest one of all. Probably a little disturbing when anakin killed the children but it makes sense to kill off the children in order to prevent future of numorous attempts by good jedis to end the darkside. Also I can't help but think sam jackson is related to yoda cuz they both look damn exactly alike. I had a major boner when vader appeared in his awesome get up suit and shouted nooooo! And the wookie clan was great. All in all I enjoyed it and it cleared up all the questions everyones been pondering since return of jedi. and it ranks up there with the last three episode (new hope-jedi). Really good movie.

[AChimp]

I think the girl in your LJ that thinks that Sin City was sexist is borderline retarded. My girlfriend attended a feminism course in college and brought me home stories of the ridiculous bullshit they push there. It's worse than the church has ever been.

And I'm probably the most feminine guy here aside from Davin, so it isn't my CAPITALIST PATRIARCHAL AGENDA.
Yeah, but she looks pretty hot, though.

[Chojin]

She looks like your typical overeducated college women's lib student. She probably tries to argue the talking points she's been taught to argue at every opportunity, and the only 'liberating' change to her character from such a brainwashed education is an intermediary period prior to getting plowed in which her mate will pretend to sympathize with her idiotic rhetoric.

And she will insist to be on top 12% more often.

Immasculating Keychain from Spencer's is optional, but encouraged.

[Matt Harty]

I just saw it the other day and I enjoyed it. Seeing the millenium falcon made me warm inside. :<

[noob3]

I was totally on the edge of my seat expecting Greivous to just fucking slice Obi-Wan into pieces. I knew it wasn't going to happen, but in my heart I truly hoped it would. I mean, fucking, come on! He had FOUR LIGHT SABERS. Fuck the force, man. Who fucking needs the force when you are a monkey footed, 4 armed murderous man-droid? He could have had 6 lightsabers! He has jetboosters! But no force-field. Sigh.

Fucking A! Obi-wan just fucking SHOOTS him? General Greivous, General of the droid army couldn't afford to get some force-fields that the destroyer droids had? I mean, would he even had to pay for one? He was the fucking GENERAL, afterall. You don't think they'd be cheap when it came to giving him state of the art defense system. He was all light saber resistant and shit, but he dies to a some gay ass lazer blasts?

It would have been so cool if they were going at it and all the sudden you hear like, slice, slice, SLICE. And then Greivous starts like, laughing a weezy laugh. And obi-wan fucking just slides apart. Everyone would of been like, what the fuck? And then THE SUPER CRAZIEST PLOT TWIST OF ALL TIME would have been that 4-6 never really exisited. Emperor/Vader/Greivous would have been the coolest evilist galaxy ruling mother fuckers of all time ;(

I wonder if palpatine would have even shut the droid army down if Greivous lived..

[Guitar Woman]

there wouldn't be all that heat then while it was re-entering the atmosphere.
It's Star Wars Space. You know, the one with gravity and stuff?

[the_dudefather]

I was totally on the edge of my seat expecting Greivous to just fucking slice Obi-Wan into pieces. I knew it wasn't going to happen, but in my heart I truly hoped it would. I mean, fucking, come on! He had FOUR LIGHT SABERS. Fuck the force, man. Who fucking needs the force when you are a monkey footed, 4 armed murderous man-droid? He could have had 6 lightsabers! He has jetboosters! But no force-field. Sigh.

Fucking A! Obi-wan just fucking SHOOTS him? General Greivous, General of the droid army couldn't afford to get some force-fields that the destroyer droids had? I mean, would he even had to pay for one? He was the fucking GENERAL, afterall. You don't think they'd be cheap when it came to giving him state of the art defense system. He was all light saber resistant and shit, but he dies to a some gay ass lazer blasts?

It would have been so cool if they were going at it and all the sudden you hear like, slice, slice, SLICE. And then Greivous starts like, laughing a weezy laugh. And obi-wan fucking just slides apart. Everyone would of been like, what the fuck? And then THE SUPER CRAZIEST PLOT TWIST OF ALL TIME would have been that 4-6 never really exisited. Emperor/Vader/Greivous would have been the coolest evilist galaxy ruling mother fuckers of all time ;(

I wonder if palpatine would have even shut the droid army down if Greivous lived..

i second that motion

[ScruU2wice]

has anyone else beat the alternate ending to this in the Revenge of the Sith game because I wanna talk about how it really kicks ass.

[FS]

I just finally saw the movie. Quick review: wasn't expecting much and knew what to expect, so enjoyed myself reasonably. Hayden Christinsensensonsen is still a terrible actor, or to be more kind, he is not nearly ready to carry such a big role. Lucas is still awful at writing dialogue and surrounds himself with foolish yes-men if no one brought that up. He cannot create tension and his in-your-face attempts at making continuity with the old trilogy (which he'll probably have made unrecognizable in another twenty-thirty years) are laughable. His bad scriptwriting brings down the abilities of even the best actors.

That being said, I loved most of the fights, particularly Yoda vs. Palpatine and basically any time Palpatine got into action. I'm no longer that bitchy about Yoda's Mexican jumping bean routine. The Anakin vs. Obi-wan finale felt kind of dull at this point, but holy shit the way he finished Anakin off was awesome. That whole moment would've been fantastically dramatic if Ani hadn't felt the need to shout "I HATE YOU!", but it was still great. All the gruesome detail was, for that matter.

So, I had a good time. Too bad Lucas felt everything had to be resolved at the end, though - I always assumed Vader spent years hunting down the Jedi and killing them one by one, instead of this silly BAM they're all dead stuff.



Lastly, Yoda's mention of Qui-gon at the end - does this mean what I fear it means? That Lucas is going to digitally insert a blue ghost Liam Neeson speaking with Sir Alec Guiness when he rapes the corpse of Episodes 4-6 once more?

[pjalne]

I guess he'll just hang out and nod in the background when they play R2s message.

[Immortal Goat]

No, there was a scene cut from the movie in which you see Obi Wan talking to Quigon to begin his training on Tatooine. I don't know why it was scrapped, though.

[theapportioner]

The comic book genre is blatantly sexist - same goes for the movie adaptations. I don't see how Sin City the movie is remarkably different.