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James
Mar 20th, 2003, 10:38 AM
Raise your hand, please.

kellychaos
Mar 20th, 2003, 05:18 PM
People in a coma, the sweetly retarded, and those with a grossly depicted GIF of a baby as an avatar. :/

AChimp
Mar 20th, 2003, 08:02 PM
I don't care.

James
Mar 21st, 2003, 12:31 PM
I just mean, I'm not going to lose any sleep knowing that Americans are fighting in a war. I won't be running around screaming "OH MY GOD I HOPE EVERYONE IS ALRIGHT!" I won't mourn the troops that get killed. It's just a war, and I don't care.

Protoclown
Mar 21st, 2003, 12:47 PM
Then that makes you either A) an idiot, B) a bastard, or C) both.

VinceZeb
Mar 21st, 2003, 12:58 PM
Actually, Proto, you are almost there.

What his opinion makes him is a prime example of the govt educated, self indulgent isolated sheeple. A perfect workerbee in a "1984" style enviorment. As long as he is fat, happy and blissfully unaware of the world around him, he can be easily ignored or mainpulated.

You sir, are fucking pathetic.

James
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:22 PM
Proto, I'd have to go with bastard. It's not my war. It's not my problem. So I'll just sit back, play my video games, and go on with life instead of popping a nut over a battle in Iraq.

Consider it MY way of protesting. ;)

VinceZeb
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:24 PM
Wow. I hope the rest of the country isn't like you, because if it is, we are fucked beyond all hope.

Sheeple.... *BAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH*

James
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:27 PM
What are you? Ronnie Raygun Junior?

ItalianStereotype
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:27 PM
that IS pretty fucked up jimmy...

VinceZeb
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:33 PM
No, I am just a person that is having a worthless conversation with someone who unfortuantly has been blessed with the oppurtunity to breath the same air as someone who actually appreciates what my fellow countrymen are doing for this country and one that is opressed.

You could probably serve your country and not have to worry about anything. Since you have the intelligence and soul of a speed bump, please, go start your new job and serve your city, state and govt proud!

kellychaos
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:34 PM
I just mean, I'm not going to lose any sleep knowing that Americans are fighting in a war. I won't be running around screaming "OH MY GOD I HOPE EVERYONE IS ALRIGHT!" I won't mourn the troops that get killed. It's just a war, and I don't care.

Just Sportscenter with cooler highlight footage, right? That's what we get with government-edited footage. Maybe if you saw the grisly stuff I've seen, you'd change your mind. Bleh! ... probably not. Go back to your Playstation! >:

kellychaos
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:58 PM
I won't mourn the troops that get killed. It's just a war, and I don't care.

Those soldiers do what they are ordered to do, sometimes agonizing over whether fighting the present war is righteous but find some way to justify (even if wrong) so that they can protect our freedom and do what they think is right. Whether you think so or not, they are working for you. They believe that. They have to. If you can't at least respect that, you don't deserve to live here. Your blase attitude really sickens me ... truly. >:

ItalianStereotype
Mar 21st, 2003, 01:59 PM
blase

kellychaos
Mar 21st, 2003, 02:10 PM
blase

Thank you. :)

Bennett
Mar 21st, 2003, 02:25 PM
this thread was much better when it went a day with only two responses. Shows exactly who doesn't care about this war.

kellychaos
Mar 21st, 2003, 02:42 PM
this thread was much better when it went a day with only two responses. Shows exactly who doesn't care about this war.

Personally, I originally thought that it was so insulting that it didn't deserve a response.

Anonymous
Mar 21st, 2003, 03:49 PM
Proto, I'd have to go with bastard. It's not my war. It's not my problem. So I'll just sit back, play my video games, and go on with life instead of popping a nut over a battle in Iraq.

Consider it MY way of protesting. ;)

Protesting, my ass. You're a spoiled, pathetic, and immature fool. You, (and allow me to state that, yes, I do understand I recently posted that we needeed to be careful of who we accuse of this) are UNAMERICAN. Regardless of whether or not you agree with a war, or it's cause, your fat, loser ass is sitting home "playing video games" while other people your age are dying in the service of a country you apparently know nothing about.

James
Mar 21st, 2003, 04:03 PM
So, you all don't care about the war either? Good. :lol

Let me ask you this, then. Why DO you care about the war? What significance does it have for you? And "jumping on the faux-patriotic bandwagon" doesn't count.

kellychaos
Mar 21st, 2003, 04:23 PM
Let me ask you this, then. Why DO you care about the war? What significance does it have for you? And "jumping on the faux-patriotic bandwagon" doesn't count.

I'm a Gulf War veteran who knows what sacrifice is about because I've been abroad to see those with a LOT less than I have. Besides, I personally know several people that are over in Iraq and/or Kuwait at this moment and I'd hate to think that if they died it would be for nothing and that people YOU would be a representative to their families about how America feels about them. THAT, my friend, is as real as it gets.

Vibecrewangel
Mar 21st, 2003, 05:54 PM
What his opinion makes him is a prime example of the govt educated, self indulgent isolated sheeple. A perfect workerbee in a "1984" style enviorment. As long as he is fat, happy and blissfully unaware of the world around him, he can be easily ignored or mainpulated.

I like the term sheeple....most of my friends seem to be in that category. I actually had to hang up on my best friend on 9/11 when she said "Why do people keep calling me about this. It doesn't effect me. So some people died in NY. Who cares!" I had to hang up on her again on Wednesday when she said nearly the same thing about the war. And she wonders why I don't hang out with her much any more.

Interestingly enough......here is what I said before the war started (in the anti rave forum......) I mentioned the sheeple mentality....and the most of the ravers didn't get it.

It really comes down too this.....

If we choose peace, it will appear that we have backed down. We will appear weak in the face of those that consider us their enemy. Weakness is always exploited. Weakness is always attacked. 9/11 is an exapmle of that. Our complacency was our weakness. We felt so safe in our ivory tower. Indestructable. Untouchable. Unmoved by anything that didn't effect us directly. Why should we? We were America the Great. The rest of the world didn't matter. Until of course they came and kicked in our door.
Bush will not allow himself or our country to appear weak. It just isn't in his nature. So this option is very unlikely.

CaptainBubba
Mar 21st, 2003, 06:12 PM
I'm actually very close to just wiping my mental slate clean of everything philisophcial, religious, and political. Why not? I'm usually in the minority, people hate me for that, I never gain anything of material worth besides my own self pride (which doesn't even get the fucking paper), and life is short, so why waste so much energy on things I WILL NEVER CHANGE?

I can't find a reason, so I think I'm actually going to join up with Jamesman pretty soon here. Just one more ridiculous event like this and I swear I'm going to. Really. I swear to god. :/

Ignorance is such matters is bliss. :(

James
Mar 21st, 2003, 06:21 PM
I cared when the WTC were attacked. America's not fooling me again.

VinceZeb
Mar 21st, 2003, 07:49 PM
Bubba, that is the wrong idea to have. If the founding fathers would have had that mentallity, we still would have been under the rule of England.

James, from his opinions alone, as given me the impression that he could be easily replaced in life. Just replace him with a still-living at home, over 25 years old, 400lbs virgin and no one would really care or see a difference.

James
Mar 21st, 2003, 08:30 PM
Why would anyone want to replace me with you?

More importantly, why are you the lovechild of Ronnie and SolidSnakeAss? Go back to Fark.

CaptainBubba
Mar 21st, 2003, 08:37 PM
You're missing the point Vince. If you had really digested what I was suggesting you'd realize that I WON'T CARE who rules us. I won't care about ANYTHING. Your trivial pursuit of a non-existant utopia/distopia is just that. Trivial. Why should I bother myself with activities that give me no pleasure and don't prevent me from pursuing such pleasurable activites?

VinceZeb
Mar 21st, 2003, 08:41 PM
I think your intelligence is proven by saying that I would like a utopia. If I was liberal, yes, but I'm not so I know it can not exist, since humans are flawed.

It's sad that you dont care about who controls your fate. Why dont you just leap off a building if that is the case? Why live?

For example, say we were taken over by China. Say we became nothing but slaves who pushed the Wheel of Pain all day. Would you fight back, or would you just go "Gee Whiz" and push the wheel?

CaptainBubba
Mar 21st, 2003, 08:47 PM
Still, you misunderstand. I said "Why should I bother myself with activities that give me no pleasure and don't prevent me from pursuing such pleasurable activites?"

If China intended to invade and do away with my freedom. Then absolutely, I would fight. But that is a personal issue of freedom. I classify that as my individual pursuit of happiness rather than a political issue.

I go on living because as rare as the ocassions may be, I do occasionally enjoy life. It is fun. And if oblivion is my alternative, why not continue living just for the purpose of existing?

I doubt that there will be any political event in my life so grand in scale that it will seriously challenge my ability to live a somewhat happy life, therefore I'm considering detaching myself from the burden of giving a damn.

The key thing to take in consideration when understanding this proposed stance on life is that it no longer applies when something will be detrimental to my own happiness.

VinceZeb
Mar 21st, 2003, 08:52 PM
OHHHHHHHHHHHhh.... Go back to Fark! Man, you just showed me! I guess I should go back to a web site I just found out about 2 weeks ago to a message board I never visited! Big insult!

And I'm a love child of no one. Althought it may be possible that you are mine. Althought if I would have known how you would have came out, I would have flushed you in a rubber many moons ago.

James
Mar 22nd, 2003, 02:54 AM
That was the lamest attempt at a "No, YOU are!" comback I've ever seen.

I guess all those thoughts put into where the swastika would go on your jammies didn't leave you anything left to work with then it came to humor, or intelligence.

FS
Mar 22nd, 2003, 08:41 AM
My sister's boyfriend cares about the war. He cares a great deal. He cares so much, he doesn't want to miss a moment of it on TV and cheers and laughs like a retard every time there's a bombing.

I hate him so much. :(

CaptainBubba
Mar 22nd, 2003, 11:17 AM
You wouldn't have so much contempt for him if you relieved yourself of the stress of caring about it though. See?

We would all be so much happier living in a world where all we care about are our own endeavors. :)

Despite this I still haven't quite taken that leap of ignorance yet. I just can't honestly say I don't care. :(

AChimp
Mar 22nd, 2003, 11:35 AM
I still don't care; except that it is pre-empting my favourite TV shows. >:

kellychaos
Mar 22nd, 2003, 12:21 PM
I wish I could view the war in abstraction and detachment like you guys. Unfortunately, it's real to me and I have a lot invested in it emotionally and mentally. Must be nice to view it from the outside. :/

The Unseen
Mar 22nd, 2003, 02:44 PM
Unlike usual i have completely agreed with jamesman on every single post.

AChimp
Mar 22nd, 2003, 03:27 PM
I wish I could view the war in abstraction and detachment like you guys. Unfortunately, it's real to me and I have a lot invested in it emotionally and mentally. Must be nice to view it from the outside.
Are you like, waking up with the shakes or something? I guess it's to be expected that you'd be more attached since you've said you're a Gulf War vet.

The media coverage of this war so far has really been quite sickening, and that's what makes me not care. There's no objectiveness to it at all, and everything is complete speculation all the time and usually about useless facts.:

"We have just received reports that cruise missiles were fired at a rock in Northern Iraq. Let's ask our panel of 26 experts what they think for the next hour."

"Well Larry, in all likelihood, the rock was a government outpost and an important part of Saddam's regime. Of course, in my day, we would have blasted that rock for at least 3 days before moving in with a full battalion to ensure complete annihilation."

"Thank you, Irrelevant Retired Army Guy, let's move on to Backwoods Senator for her take on this turn of events."

"Without going into details that I am not allowed to divulge, we believe that it is possible an Iraqi leader *may* have thrown that rock thirty years ago, as a child. Our intelligence reports indicate that this rock held great sentimental value and this leader may have been out looking for it at the time the missile struck. We are still analyzing satellite photos before officially announcing our success at destroying this important symbol of one man's childhood."

"Thank you, Backwoods Senator. Irrelevant Current Army Guy, could you tell our viewers about the exact process that goes into the building, polishing, loading, targetting and firing of a Tomahawk cruise missile?"

"Certainly, Larry. The image that you see on the screen now is of factory workers scooping up explosives to be packed into the cruise missile.

http://www.congo-pages.org/BANDUNDU/plantnuts.jpg

Now, Larry, this substance is the stuff that actually makes the missile explode, so it is very dangerous; that's why we only have brown people doing this.

http://www.air-and-space.com/20020625%20China%20Lake/DCP00482%20Advanced%20Cruise%20Missile%20m.jpg

The missile is made of metal, and painted with enamel-based model paints, so there's no polishing involved, Larry. The brown people already have their hands full, Ha ha ha.

http://a908.g.akamaitech.net/7/908/34/323b1b771a063b/dsc.discovery.com/news/features/terror/photo/strikes/gallery/strikes02_vzoom.jpg

As you can see in this photo, Larry, the missile is loaded using a highly technical 'lifting' process. These soldiers have been highly trained in their lifting abilities and are professionals. You are seeing Privates Bart, Willard and Darryl as well as Corporal Darryl in this photo. They are all married, and Private Bart is expecting his third child this May. We wish his wife Nancy all the best with that.

http://www.milparade.com/1998/26/0204.jpg

This complicated diagram shows how we chose targets.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/weapons/missiles/tomahawk/t-lam2.gif

Here's where all the fun starts, people! This is your tax dollars at work. The missile has now been fully constructed and targetting and is now launched. Soon there will be a large explosion, like the one we have just witnessed in Northern Iraq concerning that rock."

"Thank you for that clear description, Irrelevant Current Army Guy. We have to break for five minutes of commercials now, but when we return we will be talking to Bill Nye the Science Guy about what exactly happens when a rock explodes and several environmentalists to discuss any impact this rock destruction will have. Next on CNN..."

:blah

VinceZeb
Mar 22nd, 2003, 04:31 PM
Yep, being informed about the world around me is the pits. Like I said, be good sheeple and detach yourself from reality around you. We had 8 years of that under the adulter in chief, and look what that got us? Nowhere.

Cap'n Crunch
Mar 23rd, 2003, 11:05 AM
I think it is going to be like the last war.