I renounce my straight-edgery.

[The One and Only...]

The occasional clove cigarette is just too good.

[Emu]

If you smoke, you'll get wrinkles, and then your modelling career will never get going.

[AChimp]

You were never straight-edge to begin with. Fuck.

[Helm]

sure he was. he thought about it, once.

[Royal Tenenbaum]

Clove cigarettes? LOL!

[ziggytrix]

clove cigs are a gateway drug.

[The One and Only...]

I don't think I'll get wrinkles on one cig a week.

[Miss Modular]

One cigarette turns into two, two turns into three, next you know it, you're a pack-a-day smoker!

[Zero Signal]

Next thing you'll be doing E!

>:

[ziggytrix]

and from there is't a pretty short journey to mainlining heroine, but it was nice knowing you buddy. please don't call asking for money, as i'm sure you can understand, we'll have to pretend to not to know who you are.

[sadie]

RIP

[mburbank]

OAO, can you go down to the basement? That's where we keep the tools.

[dreaddi]

What about the occasional marijuana cigarette?

[Dole]

EDGEBREAK, FACEBREAK

[kellychaos]

Collective sigh of relief as he is brought back from the brink of the edgery. A Minor Threat, really.

[sadie]

it's a big draw to those with that level of social conscience.

[Gurlugon]

hamsticks

[Helm]

I like how OAO thought to share his 'renouncing' of his 'straight-edgery' due to his need of the occasional 'clove cigarette' as a 'philosophical topic'.

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[mburbank]

All I want to know is when he's going to renounce his Douche-baggery.

[The One and Only...]

I like how OAO thought to share his 'renouncing' of his 'straight-edgery' due to his need of the occasional 'clove cigarette' as a 'philosophical topic'.

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I posted it in General Blabber. Someone moved it here.

[Helm]

:(

[kellychaos]

I doubt the staright-edgers would have let you into their tree-fort anyway what with you flailing the seks-leg around in such a cavalier and promiscuous manner and all.

[Royal Tenenbaum]

I hear clove cigarettes give Heather orgasms.

[Emu]

I'm not hip on the jive like the rest of you cats, but what exactly is a 'clove' cigarette? Is that some kind of pussy cigarette?

[Zhukov]

I'm not too sure myself. Is it a menthol of some sort? Or something?

[Chojin]

It's a nicotine-free cigarette that gay little babies can get to pretend that they're tough because there's no age restriction. They were originally invented to help smokers quit their habit.

It's like non-alcoholic beer. Which also isn't AGAINST THE X, but I understand that it can be difficult to juggle a half-dozen meaningless titles at once.

[Emu]

I have never heard of a nicotine-free cigarette. Where the fuck do you even buy them?

[The One and Only...]

It's a nicotine-free cigarette that gay little babies can get to pretend that they're tough because there's no age restriction. They were originally invented to help smokers quit their habit.

It's like non-alcoholic beer. Which also isn't AGAINST THE X, but I understand that it can be difficult to juggle a half-dozen meaningless titles at once.

Um. No.

Clove cigarettes are roughly 60-70% tobacco, 30-40% clove. The clove is used as a spice and makes the cigarette more palatable (or extremely tasty, if you're like me). In fact, clove cigs contain even more nicotine than regular cigarettes, and the cloves themselves carry an additional risk.

The brand I got was imported from Europe. They are not legal for minors.

Clove cigarette info for those who want to know just how bad for they are: http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2317.html

Edit: As a note, I only mouth smoke them. I don't draw the smoke into my lungs.

[Emu]

Living dangerously! :eek

[sadie]

so you're saying you didn't inhale, eh?

[The One and Only...]

so you're saying you didn't inhale, eh?

I suck the smoke into my mouth and exhale.

[ScruU2wice]

sometimes I really can't believe you're not a character.

[Dole]

Edit: As a note, I only mouth smoke them. I don't draw the smoke into my lungs.


You big bloody nonce - if you are going to smoke, SMOKE. What you describe is what 13 year old girls do trying to look hard by smoking, when they know if they actually inhale they will have an all consuming coughing fit.

I can't believe someone would 'break their edge' (not that you were ever edge in the true sense) by something as ludicrously gay as pretend smoking.

[Helm]

EDGE BREAK FACE BREAK

[AChimp]

Well said, Helm. Well said. :posh

[Helm]

Dole said it

[ziggytrix]

top-notch intarweb ventriloquism there Dole!

[mburbank]

As the oldest person here, I want to chime in and say that Clove cigarettes have been the Poseurs cig of choice for at very least thirty years.

Not only little girls trying to look older and more sophisticated than they are, but psuedo intellectual weiner boys who thought carrying a dog eared used copy of something by Sarte in their back pockets might possiby get them laid smoke cloves.

Smoking cloves is EXACTLY as assholic as straight edgery and for te exact same reason. It's a thin, thin, thin shell of identity and inside it's utterly hollow.

The only thing more utterly nauseating than youth trype that smoke cloves are youth trype who think they are BAD REBELS because they violated straight edgery by smoking cloves. And the only thing worse than that would be someone who does it and then POSTS ABOUT IT ON THE WEB.

Now you say "I just like the taste."

Because we'll all believe that.

[Preechr]

It's those dirty anarcho-hippies he's been hanging out with. First, they got him believing that free-love poli-sci mumbo-jumbo, now they've brainwashed him into thinking he'll be perceived as a rockstar by the ladies if he fake-smokes almost-pot.

[The One and Only...]

HOLY SHIT, PREECHR LIVES!!!

Smoking itself has a romantic appeal to me, but honestly, I'm not all that picky about what I smoke. I've inhaled regular cigarettes into my lungs without coughing; they told me that if I inhaled cloves into my lungs I might get a little light headed, and I didn't want to drive home that way.

Cloves are actual the cig choice of emo kids, but I was introduced by the heavily-smoking fencing crowd.

Now, pure tobacco cigarettes... that's something that might be worth trying.

[mburbank]

"Smoking itself has a romantic appeal to me,"
Because you're a moron. There was aa time when smoking might have had a 'romantic appeal' beyond peer pressure. That was before they discovered it causd cancer. Unless cancer has a romantic appeal to you. What's more romantic than a fat guy in a wheelcahir on oxygen?

"I was introduced by the heavily-smoking fencing crowd."
Watch out. they are almost as tough as those worldy theater kids. The mind boggles. A clove smoking fencing crowd. How do you keep from reqaching critical gay mass and haveing a gay nuclear reaction with that miuch gayness in one place?

"that's something that might be worth trying."
Please, please, please do. Know what's really cool? Those guinness world record types who smoke, like forty at a time. That'll show the fencing crowd who's cool.

[GAsux]

I would think atheletes as finely trained as fencers would be more conscious about what they put in their bodies. Given the tremmendous amount of strength and stamina needed to fence, I would have thought they would refrain from such sissified activities. This forever changes my opinion of fencers.

[Helm]

I was introduced by the heavily-smoking fencing crowd.


Perfect material fro Achimp comics

[The One and Only...]

I would think atheletes as finely trained as fencers would be more conscious about what they put in their bodies. Given the tremmendous amount of strength and stamina needed to fence, I would have thought they would refrain from such sissified activities. This forever changes my opinion of fencers.

It's mostly just a club thing - fencers as a whole don't smoke a lot.

Fencing is also predominantly anaerobic, so the cardiovascular system is secondary. Smoking, to my knowledge, does not decrease strength - I'm one of the strongest fencers around anyway (except for Big Rob, who is going to be making a pro-boxing debut sometime soon).

In any case, my coach actually advised me against smoking once a week b/c our personalities are somewhat similar and he thinks he knows how it would end up. Odds are cigs are just gonna be a rare occasion for me.

[mburbank]

" I'm one of the strongest fencers around anyway"

OMG, OMG, no wonder you can now give Heather totally intentional orgasms when you make out!!! You are SO wonderful! And when your coach confided in you that you and he were a lot alike?!?! WOW! What a super moment in your splendiferous life!! Thank God you won't be smoking much! The idea of a light like yours going out... it's just too much to even think about!!


Still, I bet the whole straight edge crowd is crying about loosing you. Wanna bet in a few weeks they'll all be smoking cloves?

[The One and Only...]

I mean in my club. Weight-lifting is not a common thing for most in the sport.

[AChimp]

I bet you measure the weight you lift in quarters of pounds.

[Dole]

They fence and smoke? How many phallic substitutes do they need?

[maggiekarp]

My mom said clove cigarettes are like smoking a cookie and are very tasty.

OAO, you should eat your cookies, not smoke them!

[sadie]

i hate the smell of cloves.

comic! comic!

[The One and Only...]

I bet you measure the weight you lift in quarters of pounds.

Haven't you seen my Torgo thighs?

[ScruU2wice]

I love the kids who start smoking when their 15 and say "well I'd rather die at 70 then live to be 90 and not be able to wipe my ass." I wish I was kidding when I say I've heard people say this.

[Sethomas]

I'd rather die at 28 than deal with balding at age 40. I smoke and I drink for kicks.

[The Fifth Man]

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/040603/clove-smokers.gif

[Emu]

I love the kids who start smoking when their 15 and say "well I'd rather die at 70 then live to be 90 and not be able to wipe my ass." I wish I was kidding when I say I've heard people say this.

What makes them think they'd live to 90 if they didn't smoke? :lol

[kellychaos]

You bastard!

[mburbank]

Hey! Hey! OAO! I have a great healthy idea for you! Lay of the Clove Homorettes and start doing Baby Bottle Pop!

You know,

Baby Bottle Pop,
BABY BOTTLE POP!!

That would be SO cool! And I bet you dollars to fuckin' donuts, everyone in your fencing club would be doing Baby Bottle Pop in a friggin' week!

You could turn Heather and Jennfer on to Baby Bottle Pop, you could be having a Baby Bottle Pop threeway by the time I finish typing this!

GO!! GO!!
Cloves NON!
VIVA LA BABY BOTTLE POP FOR SELF OBSESSED PSUEDO INTELLECTUAL FENCING FUCKS AND THEIR FRIENDS!!!

[kellychaos]

I'm beginning to sense a bit of animosity against the clove-smoking, pseudo-intellectual fencing cliques that used to roam the high school hallwalls and take what they needed when they needed it like the nomadic, Hunnic warriors of old. Were you a victim to these deviants? Did they lay waste to your youth as they did mine? :(

[DeadKennedys]

Edit: As a note, I only mouth smoke them. I don't draw the smoke into my lungs.


You big bloody nonce - if you are going to smoke, SMOKE. What you describe is what 13 year old girls do trying to look hard by smoking, when they know if they actually inhale they will have an all consuming coughing fit.

I can't believe someone would 'break their edge' (not that you were ever edge in the true sense) by something as ludicrously gay as pretend smoking.

Beautifully put. I couldn't say it better.

You can't renounce your pussy pseudo-identity because you merely draw quasi-cigarette-smoke into your mouth.

And by the way, I learned in world civilizations once that clove cigarettes are a part of Sumatran culture. But you're not Sumatran, you provincial putz.

By the things you say such as "I've inhaled a real cigarette without coughing" (WOW! :bestthread) there is no possible way you are not a forum character. Or at least a pathetic character yourself.

[adept_ninja]

I dont see what the big fuss is I like OAO

[kellychaos]

Why? When he finally meets himself, he won't like himself.

[ziggytrix]

when I was a rebellious youth GOTHS smoked cloves.

now it's EMOS? :wtf

[Emu]

Kreteks are Indonesian cigarettes made with a complex blend of tobacco, cloves and a flavoring 'sauce.' They are often called clove cigarettes. It is believed that the name kretek comes from the crackling sound the cloves make when they are burned.

Kreteks were originally created by Haji Jamahri in the early 1880's for medicinal purposes as a way to deliver the eugenol in the cloves to the lungs, as it was thought to help asthma. It cured his chest pains and he started to market his invention to the village, but he died before he could mass market it. M. Nitisemito took his place and began to commercialize the new cigarettes. Today kretek manufacturers employ over 180,000 people in Indonesia and account for 95% of the world's clove market. In the United States, clove cigarettes are popular with social smokers, artists and the goth and punk subcultures. Djarum Blacks, a black paper kretek, are often linked with the goth image, leading to a saying, "I'm so goth even my cigarettes are black."

[Rongi]

sorry if this is a stupid question, but are they really good for asthma?

[Geggy]

This thread is the reason why I rarely ever make fun of OAO...because he is doing all the work himself. :lol

[kellychaos]

It's almost too easy.

It kind of takes the fun out of it. :(

[Emu]

I think we all make fun of OAO because we all were OAO, once. We were all pretentious fags at one point in our lives, and that's what makes it fun.

Then again, I was a pretentious fag, but I wasn't THAT big a fag, so I feel good about it either way.

[CaptainBubba]

I smoked 8 bowls of Captain Spice, Rum Runner, and Black Forest tabacco two days ago and took it like a champ even though I don't smoke, hate smokers, and technically have asthma.

When people offer me clove ciggarettes I punch them in the heart and call them a ridiculous faggot. I am not kidding. The only guy I know who seriously smoked clove ciggarettes and didnt just view them as novelty was a 19 year old Itialian guy with a weight problem and a gland disorder who lived with his parents and dedicated his life to "local emo music" concerts.

Where I live and grew up "straight edge" means "I am so socially inept and receeded into my egomaniacal introvertedness that I will blatantly parade my personal and BORING life choices to everyone who will listen". Also it means they are probably a ridiculous faggot.

[Emu]

I'm "straight-edge," I guess, but I don't flout it like this retard. I know my life is boring. :rolleyes

[Copywritten]

straight edge only counts after you've gotten drunk and stoned 1 time or more.

Its all in this handy little Pamphlet:
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-12256.html

[Spectre X]

The only reason why I'm technically straight-edge is because I can't get laid. :(

No promiscuous sex for me, I guess. :tear

[The One and Only...]

straight edge only counts after you've gotten drunk and stoned 1 time or more.

Its all in this handy little Pamphlet:
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-12256.html

No it isn't.

And besides, I'm not at all against recreational sex, so sXe was just not for me.

I might give up cigarettes.

[Britta]

I may be new here...but it's easy to see that there's just to much stupid in the world.
I'm tired of stupid.
... :)

[Copywritten]

Hi britta, lets start a club and put x's on our hands!! :)

[kellychaos]

Is it a morality based on pretense, experience or fear?

[Britta]

Hi britta, lets start a club and put x's on our hands!! :)
'Fraid I don't understand...
Jeeze...now I'm stupid.
Bleh.

[Spectre X]

God damn, I think AOA is trying to drive me insane.

[Copywritten]

whats AOA?! >:

[Spectre X]

Age of Apocalypse, duh. :rolleyes