Kanye West Rips Bush During Live NBC Concert

[Miss Modular]

http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/ap/20050902/112572168000.html

Kanye West Rips Bush During NBC Concert
Fri Sep 02, 9:28 PM ET

It began, fittingly enough, with jazz from New Orleans natives Harry Connick Jr. and Wynton Marsalis. But "A Concert for Hurricane Relief," a heartfelt and dignified benefit aired on NBC and other networks Friday night, took an unexpected turn thanks to the outspoken rapper Kanye West.

Appearing two-thirds through the program, he claimed "George Bush doesn't care about black people" and said America is set up "to help the poor, the black people, the less well-off as slow as possible."

The show, simulcast from New York on NBC, MSNBC, CNBC and Pax, was aired live to the East Coast, enabling the Grammy-winning rapper's outburst to go out uncensored.

There was a several-second tape delay, but the person in charge "was instructed to listen for a curse word, and didn't realize (West) had gone off-script," said NBC spokeswoman Rebecca Marks.

Immediately after the airing was over, Marks said it was undetermined how much, if any, of the tirade would be included in the taped West Coast feed three hours later.

The host was NBC News' Matt Lauer, who invited viewers to contribute to the American Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund by phone or on the Web. Some 18 presenters performed musical numbers or gave information on the tragedy's huge scope.

Louisiana native Tim McGraw teared up as he told Lauer, "I know the citizens that weren't affected by this directly are gonna stand up and do good things for people." He sang two songs, then became the first of the evening's stars to sign a Gibson Les Paul Special guitar to be auditioned online.

Faith Hill, a Mississippi native, sang "There Will Come a Time," with the inspiring lyrics, "The darkness will be gone, the weak shall be strong. Hold on to your faith."

New Orleans son Aaron Neville performed Randy Newman's soulful "Louisiana 1927" with the memorable chorus, "they're trying to wash us away, they're trying to wash us away."

New York governor George Pataki presented the Red Cross with a check for $2.5 million and promised, "This great state will do far more."

"In terms of property damage," said actress Hilary Swank, "the estimate is at least $26 billion in insured losses and perhaps twice that in uninsured losses over a 90,000-square-mile area approximately the size of Kansas."

Other speakers included Lindsay Lohan, Eric LaSalle, Glenn Close, Richard Gere, John Goodman and Leonardo DiCaprio.

Comedian Mike Myers was paired with West for a 90-second segment that began with Myers speaking of Katrina's devastation. Then, to Myers' evident surprise, West began a rant by saying, "I hate the way they portray us in the media. If you see a black family, it says they're looting. See a white family, it says they're looking for food."

While allowing that "the Red Cross is doing everything they can," West who delivered an emotional outburst at the American Music Awards after he was snubbed for an award declared that government authorities are intentionally dragging their feet on aid to the Gulf Coast. Without getting specific, he added, "They've given them permission to go down and shoot us."

After he stated, "George Bush doesn't care about black people. Please call _" the camera cut away to comedian Chris Tucker.

Concluding the hour a few minutes later, Lauer noted that "emotions in this country right now are running very high. Sometimes that emotion is translated into inspiration, sometimes into criticism. We've heard some of that tonight. But it's still part of the American way of life."

Then the entire ensemble performed "When the Saints Go Marching In."

In a statement, NBC said, "Kanye West departed from the scripted comments that were prepared for him, and his opinions in no way represent the views of the networks.

"It would be most unfortunate," the statement continued, "if the efforts of the artists who participated tonight and the generosity of millions of Americans who are helping those in need are overshadowed by one person's opinion."

Friday's program was the first of several TV benefits planned through next weekend.

NBC and the five other major commercial broadcast networks, along with PBS, plan to unite next Friday for a special. The same night, BET will air a benefit. And on Saturday, Sept. 10, the MTV networks will air a special.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Yeah, I got home last night, and basically JUST caught this part with kanye.

It's odd, because he'll just get ripped apart as another loud-mouthed rapper who says stupid things, but just reading the transcript doesn't do it justice. The guy was visibly shaeken up by all of this, like so many people have been, and he clearly wasn't thinking out what he was saying.

The best was watching Mike Myers' face when Kanye made the final comment. His jaw dropped below the floor, and they quickly cut over to Chris Tucker, who was like "uuhhh...uuhhh."

[Miss Modular]

Well, I just saw a clip of this at IFilm.com. I'm not sure what to say about this:

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2678975

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Well, I clearly think that he's just flat out wrong on some of those points.

But this is a cocky, arrogant guy, who always has a bit of a swagger (sp?) to him. He doesn't come across that way here, he seems upset, nervous, and shaken.

He might regret those comments though.

[Zebra 3]

Some are saying that the last Kanye West comment was censored for the West Coast airing.

[ziggytrix]

well that was weird

[AChimp]

Kanye West sounded like he was in grade 1 and/or retarded. It was still hilarious, though, especially at the end.

[Emu]

As retarded as that was, I don't really blame him for thinking that. He sounds angry and scared, like most of the country.

[VinceZeb]

He believes everything he says. Kanye West is an idiot. He also believes that AIDS and crack was created to try to kill off the Black Panthers, so by default he is saying that blacks are too stupid to understand that the white devil goverment knows they will screw and do drugs and it will be their downfall.

And to think Time Magazine just had him on the cover and said he was the smartest guy in pop music. I'd like to see the learning curve they graded on for that test.

[Miss Modular]

He believes everything he says. Kanye West is an idiot. He also believes that AIDS and crack was created to try to kill off the Black Panthers, so by default he is saying that blacks are too stupid to understand that the white devil goverment knows they will screw and do drugs and it will be their downfall.


Source?

[KevinTheOmnivore]

http://catholicsamurai.netfirms.com

"He believes everything he says. Kanye West is an idiot. He also believes that AIDS and crack was created to try to kill off the Black Panthers, so by default he is saying that blacks are too stupid to understand that the white devil goverment knows they will screw and do drugs and it will be their downfall," said Dr. Whitey McWhite-Pants while giving his dissertation on black culture to the eager audience at Bob Jones University.

[Emu]

He believes everything he says. Kanye West is an idiot. He also believes that AIDS and crack was created to try to kill off the Black Panthers, so by default he is saying that blacks are too stupid to understand that the white devil goverment knows they will screw and do drugs and it will be their downfall.


Source?

Come on, it's Vince. I think we trust him enough that he doesn't need to cite his sources.

[VinceZeb]

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/kanye%20risked%20legal%20fight%20to%20perform%20at %20live%208

Have at it.

[Schimid]

sorry for stealing your thread lady <33

[KevinTheOmnivore]

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/kanye%20risked%20legal%20fight%20to%20perform%20at %20live%208[/url]

KANYE RISKED LEGAL FIGHT TO PERFORM AT LIVE 8

apper KANYE WEST risked legal action to perform at Live 8 in Philadelphia yesterday (02JUL05) - he was threatened with a lawsuit if he appeared.

The JESUS WALKS hitmaker had to cancel other commitments to appear at the awareness concert, which he called "monumental".

West told MTV NEWS, "We had to go through a lot to be here today. I had another performance and they're like, 'There's no way you can be here - you'll get sued if you go to this.'

This sounds like a horrible person.

Hey Vince, out of curiosity, what is your opinion on the Northern War of Aggression?

[mburbank]

look, buddy, violating a contractual agreement means you're a scumbag and you deserve to die. It doesn't matter what for, and he just thought it would get him publicity. How do I know? Easy. I'm actually in his head, and it's horrible, negro-ey space.

[VinceZeb]

Yes, ignore the rest of the article where it proves that what I said before is correct. It's sad that you can't admit you were wrong.

[Cybernetico]

I don't agree with anything he said, but I gotta give him respect. That took some balls to say, to put his career up like that to get his point across. I doubt that was for publicity.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Yes, ignore the rest of the article where it proves that what I said before is correct. It's sad that you can't admit you were wrong.

That's not what we were doing. I was pointing out the irony that in your effort to trash the guy, you linked us an article which basically proves the guy to be a good samaritan.

As for his thoughts on the black panthers, crack, and AIDS-- A lot of people hold quircky little beliefs about history that aren't necessarily consistent with the mainstream. And I would appreciate an answer to my question.

Of course what he said is ridiculous, and it's a good thing for you, too. Once the very sensible denunciations of Bush start to come out over Katrina, you won't have that "crazy rapper guy" to throw off the debate with.

[mburbank]

"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."


And Kevin, you ar SO missing the point. This Negro pop star, whatever his name is, with his flakey conspiracy theories and unavoidably blck endorsement of the 'gansta' lifestyle, is totally wrong and only a dispshit liberal fag would listen to him.

ERGO

All future cristicism from any corner is now tainted, or Janefondafied, and shoud only be listened to by dipshit liberal fags.

[kellychaos]

As for his thoughts on the black panthers, crack, and AIDS-- A lot of people hold quircky little beliefs about history that aren't necessarily consistent with the mainstream. And I would appreciate an answer to my question.

Perhaps this was a pre-emptive effort to avoid being put on the FBI list in preparation for the "George Bush hates black people." comment. If he is already considered crazy by them, how dangerous can he really be?

I mean, he appears sincere and I appreciate his empathy but his comments about shooting people by the National Guard? That was in reference to those that have taken advantage of the situation to commit heinous crimes which is actually a small percentage of those that looted. Anyone with any common sense can see that. There is, and always will be a fraction of the community that is criminally-minded and, when given the opportunity afforded by this sort of chaos, the percentage creeps a little bit higher by those who had thought about it but didn't think that they could get away with it under normal circumstances. As for martial law being instated? That amounts to a failure on many government levels to provide a comprehensive plan to get people out of there in an orderly manner. Now, because they hadn't taken the time (or cared to take the time), they are now faced with an escalated problem that could have been nipped in the bud. I'm tired of the "blame game" being tossed around. There were several failures top to bottom. Hindsight is twenty-twenty ... whatever? Why does Florida manage to get through so many hurricanes somewhat successfully? Call the race card and I call bullshit. It's simple topography (poor civil engineering/planning), logistics and taking the threat seriously because they "know the drill", have been through it before and did not scoff at the threat for years.

It can't happen to me. :/

[VinceZeb]

Yes, ignore the rest of the article where it proves that what I said before is correct. It's sad that you can't admit you were wrong.

That's not what we were doing. I was pointing out the irony that in your effort to trash the guy, you linked us an article which basically proves the guy to be a good samaritan.

As for his thoughts on the black panthers, crack, and AIDS-- A lot of people hold quircky little beliefs about history that aren't necessarily consistent with the mainstream. And I would appreciate an answer to my question.

Of course what he said is ridiculous, and it's a good thing for you, too. Once the very sensible denunciations of Bush start to come out over Katrina, you won't have that "crazy rapper guy" to throw off the debate with.

I don't blame Bush for this situation. I blame the local and state goverments and the federal organizations for fucking this up. Some blame is also on the people who stayed behind. There is more evidence that is coming out day after day that shows this isn't Bush's fault, bur rather the fault of the local and state governments. I know that's hard for you to believe, but it's true.

Quite frankly, I don't care who's fault it is. The only reason conservatives have to go in and play the blame game is because liberals and power hungry race mongers decided to jump into it head-first. Fuck those people. I wish liberals would care more about helping the people that were victims of this horrible tragedy then trying to score points by blaming Bush.

[glowbelly]

i guess i'm pretty liberal. i started a disaster relief drive in my community. so there. >:

[KevinTheOmnivore]

I don't blame Bush for this situation. I blame the local and state goverments and the federal organizations for fucking this up. Some blame is also on the people who stayed behind. There is more evidence that is coming out day after day that shows this isn't Bush's fault, bur rather the fault of the local and state governments. I know that's hard for you to believe, but it's true.

Quite frankly, I don't care who's fault it is.

Bullshit. You decided from the very beginning that you weren't gonna let them Bush-hatin', 527-types use this to bring down your guy. Of course the local and state governments are to blame, but there's a question of capacity and capability. There was only so much, both budgetary and logistically, that the city of New Orleans could've done for a class 5 storm, for example. That doesn't pardon nagin or any city level incompetence, it simply means that the blame goes all around, perhaps even to the White House.

You claim that there's "more and more eveidence" exonerating Bush. Where is it? Because I've seen Max post some pretty incriminating things, things that make Bush look stupid, unprepared, and insensitive to the situation.

And also, you piece of garbage, be a man for once in your life. When you say " Some blame is also on the people who stayed behind," you mean that YOU blame those who stayed, despite any inability to leave. Remember, the "kiss your ass good bye" sign over the city? So aside from the fact that many who have criticized the evacuation plan noted that transportation failed the poor that day, you still blame those people. Oh, but wait, there's no class issues in America, everybody is equal, and the Bush administration rocks.




The only reason conservatives have to go in and play the blame game is because liberals and power hungry race mongers decided to jump into it head-first. Fuck those people. I wish liberals would care more about helping the people that were victims of this horrible tragedy then trying to score points by blaming Bush.

You are fucking worthless, and you're ignorant. Was Newt Gingrich simply deflecting liberal criticism, or was he making a valid point about our nation's first-response capabilities? When the president himself ackowledged that there was quite certainly a relief failure here, was he simply playing the "blame game," or was he pointing out legitimate failures?

And as for liberals not caring about helping those effected-- You can go to fucking hell. Americans from all over the spectrum have donated cash, resources, and their time to those effected. The only difference is that conservatives seem really big about proving it somehow, so would you like to show us your receipts, Vince? Planning on a big write-off next year?

[AChimp]

Vinth will be vigorously defending the last remaining all-you-can-eat buffet in New Orleans.

[mburbank]

"I don't blame Bush for this situation. I blame the local and state goverments and the federal organizations for fucking this up."
-Vince


So... wait... who's the boss of the federal orgnizations you blame? Well, Bush is Certoff's boss, and Chertoff is Browns boss, Brown heads FEMA. If FEMA fucked up, I guess it's not really Bush's fault. I mean, Bush doesn't run FEMA. But as a good CEO he should be firing Brown and getting someone who isn't a fuck up in there ASAP. Maybe someone who has some disaster relief experience, since there aren't a lot of Arabian Show Horses in need right now. I guess ol' W was doing just that when he said:

"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."


And Vinth, see what happens when you talk about fucking Kevins Mom, (As if a Nancy Boy like you could even get it up for anything but a muscle bound Right Wing Blog Writtin' gay escortin' shill) ? He takes the gloves off and pounds you. Which admittedly is not much excercise, but Kevins usually nicer than me you big sack of watery crap. Now get to posting huge mounds of unintentionally hillarious ravings, before someone sets youy on the remains of Trent Lott's Porch, lights you on fire, rings the doorbell and runs.

[New Noise]

Who cares? Kanye West sucks.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Yes, you like the Refused, you know better than everyone else in the world. We get it. Thanks for your worthless contribution.

[VinceZeb]

Yes, ignore the rest of the article where it proves that what I said before is correct. It's sad that you can't admit you were wrong.

That's not what we were doing. I was pointing out the irony that in your effort to trash the guy, you linked us an article which basically proves the guy to be a good samaritan.

As for his thoughts on the black panthers, crack, and AIDS-- A lot of people hold quircky little beliefs about history that aren't necessarily consistent with the mainstream. And I would appreciate an answer to my question.

Of course what he said is ridiculous, and it's a good thing for you, too. Once the very sensible denunciations of Bush start to come out over Katrina, you won't have that "crazy rapper guy" to throw off the debate with.

A lot of people hold a lot of quirky little believes about history? So, I guess you consider the Nation of Islam's views "quirky"? About bout Fred Phelps, do you consider his views "quirky"? And who gives a shit about Kanye performing at Live 8? Oh man, he went out there and performed at a concert with the goal of reminding people about poverty. Whoopdie shit. How much money did he give, or was he too busy sorting through his $2,000 gift basket?

Also, what the hell does my feelings about the War Between The States have to do with anything?

[KevinTheOmnivore]

A lot of people hold a lot of quirky little believes about history? So, I guess you consider the Nation of Islam's views "quirky"? About bout Fred Phelps, do you consider his views "quirky"?

You're using this to sidestep the issue, that was my point. Nobody really thinks that Kanye fucking West is the leading critical voice on this issue. If you think class and race had nothing to do with this disaster after the disaster, then I think you're a fucking racist. Yep, I played the race card! Woohoo! RACIST, RACIST, RACIST!


And who gives a shit about Kanye performing at Live 8? Oh man, he went out there and performed at a concert with the goal of reminding people about poverty. Whoopdie shit. How much money did he give, or was he too busy sorting through his $2,000 gift basket?

Do you have ADD? Can you follow a discussion at all, or do you just see certain things and run off with it like a fat kid with his ice cream cone? I simply threw that out there because you cited an article which first told us about West calling off one for-profit performance to go perform in one with no profit.

And I'm guessing he gave a lot of money. What is it with you conservatives and using cash donations as a measure of one's compassion? If Sean Penn gives more money to the reconstruction of Iraq than you do, does that make him smarter than you, Vincent? West is giving a lot of money (as he sort of babbled about on NBC) to the Katrina recovery. That means he cares a lot more than you do, right Vincent?

Also, what the hell does my feelings about the War Between The States have to do with anything?

Kanye West comes from a black panther background. He is a product of his upbringing, and much like a lot of people who grow up in certain regions, believing certain things, he thinks things that go off the meter.

Feel free to answer my question at any time.

[ziggytrix]

I'm guessing Vince grew up in a right wing quasi-racist household, so he deserves as much slack as Kanye West.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Fair enough.

[mburbank]

"Can you follow a discussion at all, or do you just see certain things and run off with it like a fat kid with his ice cream cone?"


A nicely turned phrase, sir!

[VinceZeb]

Do you have ADD? Can you follow a discussion at all, or do you just see certain things and run off with it like a fat kid with his ice cream cone? I simply threw that out there because you cited an article which first told us about West calling off one for-profit performance to go perform in one with no profit.

And I'm guessing he gave a lot of money. What is it with you conservatives and using cash donations as a measure of one's compassion? If Sean Penn gives more money to the reconstruction of Iraq than you do, does that make him smarter than you, Vincent? West is giving a lot of money (as he sort of babbled about on NBC) to the Katrina recovery. That means he cares a lot more than you do, right Vincent?

Its very simple to explain why "us conservatives" use cash donations as a measure of one's compassion. Liberals are the ones who always bitch and complain and giving more money and how the government should give more money to the poor, the downtrodden, the blah blah blah. Although, when it comes to actually ponying up money to get to all these "deserving" groups, liberals would rather give someone else's money then open up their own wallets.

Conservatives give money, liberals give speeches. Which is more effective?

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Prove it, or shut your yap.

[mburbank]

It's just a well know gold standard fact is all so stop weeping out your vagina, Kevin. If you ask a hundred people on the street who has given out more money at charity each one will tell you it wasn't the liberals. It's just known, simple as that.

Oh and what am I, your lexus nexus? Look it up.