homophobic homosexual

[Frizzurd]

Am i the only one who has this problem. I am a man who is attracted to other men. That is all, I dont decorate houses, do makeovers, have sex with multiple partners etc. I just cannot stand the gay community and the reputation we have. Its as if once people come out they throw every fucking morality out the window. They have become an even greater enemy to me than the worst of biggots. They treat me like crap if i dont follow theyre cookie cutter gay pride bullshit which they treat like a religion and if you dont follow it your just another closet case. Thanks to all these stereotypes and negative behaviour I will most likely be an old geezer or dead before we have equality. I cant blame straights for hating us when i see how we look from an outer perspective.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

http://www.birdsinthebelfry.com/AA%20QUEER%20EYE.jpg

[Frizzurd]

Thanks for expanding on the point im making. God id like to kick those guys asses.

[FartinMowler]

:aok

[KevinTheOmnivore]

And then the thread somehow got gayer.....

[Yggdrasill]

Your might be one of those manly gay men who have mustaches, join gangs, and wear leather. Or a furry (http://www.furtopia.org) idk.

http://www.nonfamous.com/blog/archives/gaylions.jpg

[Frizzurd]

No moron you wouldnt know i was gay in person unless i told you. Its this kind of shit im talking about that drives me friggen nuts.

[The One and Only...]

I feel your pain.

So, uh... wanna make out?

I've got some manly thigh muscles.

Really. I do.

[Jonathan Clement]

*Hellish scream high pitched scream* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!! NOT ANOTHER ONE!!! Look, I don't hate you because your gay, so before you say anything, tell me. Are you one of those pushy homosexuals who want to desatroy marriage? Who want to turn every woman into a liberal amazon?

[Marc Summers]

Who want to turn every woman into a liberal amazon?

That sounds absolutely erotic :orgasm

[Jonathan Clement]

Not for me it isn't.

[Supafly345]

I actually dated a girl who's best friends were gay twins who thought exactly like this guy. She in turn had the same attitude and my gay friends really hated her.
She was pretty hot so it was fine with me.

[Jonathan Clement]

What did she think of abortion?

[Spectre X]

I, for one, think you should have been aborted.

[glowbelly]

Who want to turn every woman into a liberal amazon?

what does this mean? why would gay men want to turn women into liberal amazons? further more, HOW do they do this?

and gay people don't destroy marriage, mr. clement. straight people do. just look at the divorce rate.

[Ninjavenom]

I, for one, think you should have been aborted.

Most evidence goes to suggest that he was, in fact, aborted, but the doctor neglected to finish his work.


what does this mean? why would gay men want to turn women into liberal amazons? further more, HOW do they do this?

Um, ever heard of the homosexual agenda? :rolleyes

[Emu]

because if women are liberal amazons then the conservative heroes among us won't be able to reproduce, and then the world can turn into one giant orgy presided over by satan jerking off a duck

[Yggdrasill]

Frizzurd, have you considered a sex change?

[Frizzurd]

What women want to do is up to them. As long as it doesnt infringe on my rights where one right meets another. Yes I think homosexuals should have the right to marry but this isnt the subject.
I beleive I have every fucking right to be pushy with assholes imposing hate upon us. If you were treated like shit by society you wouldnt put up with it either. Of course there is no way you would even picture yourself in my shoes unless you have empathy for other human biengs.
Just trust me on this most homos are like normal guys how the hell do you think so many stay in the closet? If we all act like flaming fags or did the leather thing with handlebar mustache that would give it away dont you think!? Its the shocking freaks who get all the media coverage. Straights have theyre own circus rejects as well the internet is proof of that.

[Frizzurd]

one and only... the popeye thing....not cool...not cool at all.

[Immortal Goat]

one and only... the popeye thing....not cool...not cool at all.

:lol He yam what he yam.

[Jonathan Clement]

Damn you lbierals! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL! DO YOU NOT KNOW OF THE HELL YOU CAUSE ME EVERY DAY?! Don't tell ME that straights are destroying marriage! It's INDIVIDUAL MARRIAGE! Not the concept of marriage itself! You complain of the shit people give you? YOU ARROGENT PIG!!! Have you not concidered MY priceless expence?!

[glowbelly]

ok. no more talkin to you.

[Chojin]

Have you not concidered MY priceless expence?!
What? Being rich, white, male, and religious?

[kahljorn]

"If you were treated like shit by society you wouldnt put up with it either."

Thank God everybody who posts on this message board is a millionaire, we all manage to escape the stiff glare of injustice.

[Jonathan Clement]

I'm talking about having a family! Having somebody to love!

[FartinMowler]

If your from British Columbia (where I grew up) then you should be a tree hugging fag lover :/ or a racist ignorant idiot.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Wait a minute, you're both from BC?

Have we learned something here?

[ziggytrix]

I'm talking about having a family! Having somebody to love!

I have a friend back in Arkansas who has two moms and he loves them both very dearly, and they love him. The only real difference between him and you (besides that fact that he is awesome and you suck) is that he has to buy two cards on mother's day and none on father's day.

[Rosenstern]

First off, I will say that I was very conflicted about writing this, because I don't really want to hear any more out of Jonathan. I then decided that my urge to tell him off overpowers that, so here I go.

Jonathan, the fact of the matter is that marriage means different things to different people. To you, it may only be the Christian definition of being between a man and a woman. If this is what you personally hold true, good for you: follow it and get on with your life. To someone else, it may not hold the same meaning. To them, it can be between a man and a man or a woman and a woman, but still must have a deep feeling of love associated to it. Whoever is right (there is no such thing) is entirely irrelevant. What matters is that two males or two females getting married doesn't hurt you or anyone else in any way, shape, or form, expect for your pride as a self-rightous moral crusader.

Good day, sir.

[kahljorn]

As far as I know marriage in one form or another existed before christianity.

[Rosenstern]

As far as I know marriage in one form or another existed before christianity.

Exactly! The now-traditional Christian ritual is not all there is to marriage. All it really has to be, if it has to be anything, is a recognition of someone's deep, long-term love for someone else. That's all

Edit: in case it sounds like it, I'm not contesting you, Kahljorn
Edit: typo correction

[Spectre X]

Christianity didn't just copy marriage, it monopolized it, turning it into a tool to secure followers and excercise controll over them.

Shut up, Johnny-boy. If anybody or anything has been ruining marriage, it's religion.

[Preechr]

Have we learned something here?

Yes. It is always pointless to argue with a Canadian. I have few rules for the internet. That is one of them.

...the fact of the matter is that marriage means different things to different people. To you, it may only be the Christian definition of being between a man and a woman. If this is what you personally hold true, good for you: follow it and get on with your life. To someone else, it may not hold the same meaning. To them, it can be between a man and a man or a woman and a woman, but still must have a deep feeling of love associated to it. Whoever is right (there is no such thing) is entirely irrelevant. What matters is that two males or two females getting married doesn't hurt you or anyone else in any way, shape, or form, expect for your pride as a self-rightous moral crusader.

That is a nicely expressed libertarian sentiment. Well, the part in parenthesis was maybe leaning more relativistic (though you are making a moral judgement with your post, so...) but the rest looks solidly lib, assuming you can correctly answer the following question: Why is your way of thinking better than Johnathan's here?

[Rosenstern]

I'm a determinst (and was before that thread a few weeks ago, BTW). I don't believe in better or worse. I go with what I feel to be right. Not knowing if that's you're "correct answer", or if there even is one (knowing you I doubt it, for some reason) the only answer I could possibly give you is that as long as no one is getting personally harmed, governmental restrictions on cultural conventions are unnecessasry. Now, If a gay marriage were to entale a mass orgy where the spread of STDs is a great possibility, government intervention would be a good idea there. But it doesn't. It's the same as straight marriages or anything else: a hell of a lot of normal ones (once again, no such thing), one or two freak occurences here and there where legel action should be taken.

I hope this is satisfactory.

Ps: I am a cultural libertaritan, but an economic socialist. This makes me... not a libertarian :wah

[Rosenstern]

hm... Nothing I just said really has to do with Jonathan's argument about a family... But I guess that first part about determinism could pretty much cover all bases... :/

[Rosenstern]

WAIT!!!!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!!! The correct answer is: "What exactly would make any answer correct, Preechr?" OH YEAH!!!
[poses like the Buddy Christ]

[kellychaos]

The gay conspiracy!! >:

[Rosenstern]

Kelly, there is not a damn thing any gay person could do to make you gayer than you already are. I fail to see why you would feel threatened in any way.

[kellychaos]

ummm... sarcasm, perhaps you've heard of it?


i.e. live and let live. I really don't care ... really ... :okbubbye

[Rosenstern]

Sarcasm... yes. Doesn't that usually have humor attached to it?

[Jonathan Clement]

Fool! It DOES afect me! If it's legalized, yoiu can bet all the women will support it and I sure as hell don't want to marry a person who supports such a mockeryof marriage!

[MLE]

unless you're being forced to marry a man, it doesn't affect you.

you may have an opinion about it, but it doesn't affect you. i think that either marriage should be extended to whomever + whomever -which includes all of the tax benefits, or marriage can be kept to a man + woman, and the tax breaks are eliminated. that way it's still even.

it's unfair to keep gays and lesbians out of these tax breaks and make their lives harder than they already are. i don't care if you hate them. it doesn't give you the right to make their lives that much harder.

if gay and lesbian marriages are outlawed, people like you are the ones affecting others -not the other way around.

[Rosenstern]

I sure as hell don't want to marry a person who supports such a mockeryof marriage!

Then DON'T! Marry a conservative girl who, at the same time, believes that marriage should be man/woman and and is stupid enough to submit herself to living her life with you.

Girls like this will still be around. Trust me. We are in no short supply of them.

Edit: And might I add that this thread wasn't even about gay marriage until you rode in here on your now-trademark moral high-horse and starting bitching about it? You were asking to be told off.

[ziggytrix]

I'm less concerned with the tax issues than I am with denying someone the right to see the person they've devoted their whole life to in the hospital or having some poor queer's estranged parents making life support decisions, for example, when in a straight relationship it would be the spouse.

To me, that's civil rights. And denying civil rights to someone because they are physiologically attracted to their own gender is just as oppressive as denying someone civil rights because they have a different skin color.

[MLE]

that was said very eloquently, zig

[Jonathan Clement]

Well, WHY do you want to call it a marriage for purposes other than attention seeking? WHY don't you call it a civil union?!

[MLE]

in my understanding (which may be wrong. i haven't personally researched it) civil unions do not have the same rights as marriages. plus, you don't get to make choices for the other person like ziggy said.

that's why.

[Jonathan Clement]

Then think of something else to call it.

[MLE]

there are also gays and lesbians that are religious. they want the same equality in that reign as well.

i'm personally not religious, so i don't fight that fight.

[Jonathan Clement]

Well, marraige is between a man and a woman and if they're religious, they should know that. You people are always making me suffer. You LOVE to watch me squirm! Well, someday the tables will turn and YOU'LL be hte ones who are suffering!

[MLE]

how are you the one suffering in this situation?

[Jonathan Clement]

I TOLD you! They make all the women supprt it! And I'll be forever sickened by my own wife! What kind of a marriage do you call THAT?

[MLE]

there will always be conservatives. you don't have to marry a liberal, you cunt. there is no way that this affects you, so stop your bitching. go marry some brainless cunt and you'll be alright.

[Jonathan Clement]

They're all taken!

[Rosenstern]

We so need some kind of anti-Clement emoticon. Godammit I hate this guy.

[MLE]

lote of people hate you too, but clement is worse.

[Jonathan Clement]

You're just jealous.

[Rosenstern]

Well, someday the tables will turn and YOU'LL be hte ones who are suffering!

And what is it with you and always thinking you know the future? You do this at your own forum, too. You're always like, "Someday, all you poeple mocking me are gonna feel really sorry about your actions." You don't know what you're talking about, and never have.

[Preechr]

WAIT!!!!!! STOP THE PRESSES!!!!! The correct answer is: "What exactly would make any answer correct, Preechr?" OH YEAH!!!
[poses like the Buddy Christ]

You said Mr. Clement's opinion was stupid. You offered what you considered to be a better opinion: your own. My question to you was: Why is your way of thinking better than Jonathan's here? Are you asking me what would make you correct in correcting Mr. Clement?

[Preechr]

I'm less concerned with the tax issues than I am with denying someone the right to see the person they've devoted their whole life to in the hospital or having some poor queer's estranged parents making life support decisions, for example, when in a straight relationship it would be the spouse.

To me, that's civil rights. And denying civil rights to someone because they are physiologically attracted to their own gender is just as oppressive as denying someone civil rights because they have a different skin color.

IANAL but, every one of the "automatic" rights of straight marriage can be legally gained by gay couples willing to do the legwork. It's a pain in the ass, but possible. I'm bringing this up because it's an important point for any non-traditional couples to know so they don't get caught in one of the (in reality very rare) scenarios you are hinting at. Responsible gay couples should be encouraged to seek legal help in order to secure these rights in their state. The only remaining problem would be travelling across state borders with these rights intact, which is generally up to the state into which the couple has travelled. Generally, existing legal arrangements from one's state of residence are honored in a non-resident state even when contrary to the non-resident state's laws.

So, it is my understanding that the legal issues can be very much minimized... so much so that the actual denial of marriage-like rights to those that have obtained them legally outside of the automatic framework of straight marriage would be EXTREMELY rare. It will be such a rarity, and the legal battle that ensues because of it, that actually leads to nationalized recognition of gay marriage rights... in 2137 AD.

In my preferred alternate reality, people will someday soon wake up to the realization that the government has no business granting rights to people based on their behavior. We will all remember that our rights are born within us, not given to us by Uncle Sam, and we will go back to treating all disputes that do not involve the actual harm of another as contract disputes, settling them privately instead of involving government (for the most part.)

[Rosenstern]

I was not asking you anything. It was a rhetorical question, preechr. I'm not certain if you got that. Is your problem that you can't see why a cultural libertarian would have any oppinion of his own? I believe that everyone has the right to live the way they want to live. I think that's abundantly appearant in the other posts i've made here. The reason I find this view personally better than Clement's is because he refuses to let others live the way they want to live, despite the fact that their choice, in this case, has no repercussion on him whatsoever. As for me malevolently calling him out (I don't think I ever called him "stupid", but I'll go back and check), do I need to remind you what site we're on?

[Jonathan Clement]

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! IT DOES AFFECT ME!!!

[MLE]

you are too brainwashed to be taken seriously anymore. i'll be ignoring you from now on

[Jonathan Clement]

I'm not brainwashed! I'M INSANE!

[MLE]

Good one!

[Jonathan Clement]

It's true! Sometimes, I want to burst out with maniacal laughter.

[Rosenstern]

Thread backups

[Frizzurd]

If it is lesser than marriage then it is seggregation jackass. We tried that already it doesnt work.
He he he hahaha you know i used to think gays were sick and called them faggots, laughed when there were news stories about them bieng attacked thinking it was they deserved it like a criminal. And... guess what .. turns out i am one. Id be careful man your begenning to make me wonder.

[Jonathan Clement]

That's no excuse to make a mockery of marriage and cost me the one thing I truly need!

[Spectre X]

Jon, you seem to be unable to see this thing most people call "reality". Your statements have absolutely no grounding in any reasonable logic whatsoever.

Marriage is not something between a man and a woman. It's a concept of staying together with the one you love for the rest of your life if possible. So what if that person happens to be of the same gender?

How does that destroy marriage? Will it stop you from marrying the gal you like? Will it? Will thousands of married gay couples swarm to you and physically restrain you and your spouse-to-be from saying "I do" to each other?

If they're allowed to marry, it will not do anything to anybody else's ability to marry. Men and women will still be able to get together and marry each other.

They won't force women to accept them. They'll merely request that they accept them. Hell, they'll request of everyone to accept them. Some people will, but not all of them, leaving you with ample choice to marry a nice, subservient, conservative hausfrau who shares your views on marriage. The gays will not use hellish mind-rays to brainwash all of the women in the world.

Seems to me you're being very hateful, Jon. And last time I checked, that wasn't a very Christian thing to do.

[sadie]

i don't think jonathan is a christian at all. and he's here to cement everyone's views against christianity by playing the stereotypically extremist part.

[Jonathan Clement]

You people make me sick! Tell me THIS, than! Why does it NOT being legalized affect YOU? It DOESN'T!!! And yes, it WILL make them all turn liberal!

[Chojin]

why

[MLE]

about 1/3 or more of the posters on here are bi-curious or farther towards gay/lesbian. it affects many people, including people who are posting in this thread, oddly enough.

[Supafly345]

I don't know why we just let Christians keep the word marraige, and make up a new one.

[Jonathan Clement]

IDIOTS! Do you see ONE relgion that has same sex marriage? No. You don't.

[MLE]

that's my opinion, but some gays and lesbians are also very religious and want equality on a religious level as well. personally i don't think that'll happen as readily.

[Supafly345]

That's true. Good point.
Damn it, I meant to have that after jonathan.

[MLE]

Thanks. ;o

[Jonathan Clement]

That's how it's always been.

[MLE]

Just because people don't jump up and say "OH MAN YOU'RE WRONG YOU'RE SO VERY WRONG" the instant you post something does not meant they agree with you finally.

Keep posting in caps. It's funny.

[Supafly345]

The lesbians and gays who are Christians don't have relations. Its like some sort of rule. You can be gay, and a Christian, as long as you don't have sex. So they probably wouldn't be all over this marraige thing.

[MLE]

You can bet they're not very happy folk.

[Jonathan Clement]

Why do they even want marriage so bad, anyway? If I could never get married, that's oaky as long as I still had love!

[MLE]

They're not after the word "marriage". they're after equality.

[Jonathan Clement]

So, they can HAVE equality without calling it a marriage. Really, that's like forcing all women to be called "Sir" and Vice versa.

[MLE]

there are still some gays and lesbians to whom religion is an important part of their life, and they want religious equality.

like i said, i'm not religious and that's not my arena.

[Jonathan Clement]

But a MARRIAGE IS between a man and a woman only. That's what marriage IS! It's like callnig X and Y both Y.

[MLE]

like i said, i'm not religious and that's not my arena.

[Supafly345]

Women have both X

[Jonathan Clement]

I don't mean the Chromosome Y, I mean the LETTER Y.

[Supafly345]

Well since we don't call men and women both women, that shouldn't be a problem.

[Jonathan Clement]

Well, that's what I mean. We don't call All Women and Men Women, or call them all Men, do we? No. Why is marriage any different?

[ziggytrix]

becasue some people are GAY. >:

[Jonathan Clement]

That doesn't matter.

[MLE]

Y'know what? You don't matter.



Thanks guys. This has solved a lot of issues for me. I think I can finally get on with my life!

[Sethomas]

Oh, it doesn't matter. So then you have no point, and are at perfect liberty to SHUT THE FUCK UP.

...Says the guy who's pro-civil union, anti-calling anything marriage unless it's performed by a religious organization.

[Jonathan Clement]

This world will end soon! Soon, the world will change! It'll be much happier!

[MLE]

You keep thinking that.

[Jonathan Clement]

I don't think it. I know it.

[Sethomas]

The mark of a true moron.

[Frizzurd]

If you like civil unions so much jackass when you find the right chick and are ready to settle down why dont you get one. Christians dont own marriage. Marriage has existed long before. What you guys have is "weddings". You think interracial couples should change what theyre marriages are called?

[kahljorn]

You know, it's kind of hilarious. Gay people are actually pretty fucking disgusting. Don't get me wrong, maybe not all of them are... but a damned lot of them. My girlfriend was friends with alot of gay people, and she tells horrible stories about them. Besides that, from just what I've heard.. disgusting.
Sometimes they get aids(purposely) so they can get revenge with their exs. That's pretty disgusting :( alot of them apparantly get revenge in this way(I've also heard it called 'The Gift' but I'm not sure if they think they are divine or if it's a gift because 'everybody mommy and daddies up for you).

There was this big deal in the news called the lords of bakersfields, they were kind of like a rainbow mafia or something. Essentially, a couple of rich fucks(chicken-hawks) paid gay boys(alot of them) to 'pleasure' them. In return they got alot of money. Anyway, in the end a bunch of them ended up dead and repenting.

I think it's sad they portray themselves as such disgusting people. Maybe it's just here, in bakersfield where we have corrupt gays instead of blissful gays(it is a republican city, after all). Regardless, though, they make themselves out to be subhuman as a culture.

[bigtimecow]

"them"
"them"
"them"

COME ON MAN, RESPECT









oh hell i'm just kidding

[kellychaos]

Sarcasm... yes. Doesn't that usually have humor attached to it?

sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

Perhaps you can indentify the butts who have major trouble with semantics herein?

[kellychaos]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have our winner of the verbal dance-a-thon!

The way I see it this was one of two things:

1) You're a character whose wish it was to provoke deep misgivings about our moral centers and where we stand on an important issue through intelligent discussion and a dialectical method that would make us question our very souls. What you produced was innane repeating of the very same epithets that you stated from the very first along with repetion of identical responses.

2) You're a close-minded fool hung up on semantics. You were the kitty's titties in this respect.

That being said, you were an utter failure on both counts.

Congratulations. :)

[Rosenstern]

Yes... because determining the definition of "sarcasm" is exactly what this thread is about.

And by the way... Even if I had never said anything about Clement's remark on marriage, MLE or someone else definitely would have, given the amount of passionate statements expressed here. So don't go thinking I personally changed the face of this thread, trying to make you "question your souls", or however you put it.

[Yggdrasill]

This world will end soon! Soon, the world will change! It'll be much happier!

So is it going to change or end? And I don't think it's very happy now.

Oh shit you guys next year, end of the world 6/6/06. :eek

[Jonathan Clement]

WHAT DID I SAY?! I TOLD YOU!!! THERE IS NO RELGION THAT HAS SAME SEX MARRIAGES!!! TRUE marriage is RELGIOUS!!!

[maggiekarp]

So how about marriage be a ceremony completely removed from the government and everybody just have civil unions :/

[Jonathan Clement]

Works for me.

[Spectre X]

WHAT DID I SAY?! I TOLD YOU!!! THERE IS NO RELGION THAT HAS SAME SEX MARRIAGES!!! TRUE marriage is RELGIOUS!!!

Nuh-uh.

[Immortal Goat]

WHAT DID I SAY?! I TOLD YOU!!! THERE IS NO RELGION THAT HAS SAME SEX MARRIAGES!!! TRUE marriage is RELGIOUS!!!

Actually, there ARE some LEGALLY RECOGNIZED religions that allow for same-sex marriage. Most neo-pagans, for example, are very accepting of that lifestyle, and allow it within the religion.

Another example is Buddhism. Many sects of that faith have no problem with gay relationships and wish they had the authority to make them legally recognized marriages. As it is, YOUR people are "prohibiting the free excercise thereof" when it comes to that religion. Way to go, Christians, you really know how to ignore the best parts of the most important documents!

Also, marriage has it's roots WAY before modern day religion was established. Ancient Greeks (very heavy in the whole "god" idea, mind you) believed that same-sex love was the purest form of love, and man/woman relationships were mostly for nothing but procreation.

Oh, and you are a crazy fuck. You will fit right in at Central Park with a sandwich board yelling "The Apocalypse is nigh!!!"

[Frizzurd]

Well kahljorn. Here is one homosexual who doesnt do fucked up shit like that. I would like to have all those bastards eradicated for giving us a bad name.

[kahljorn]

Yea, I wasn't saying all were bad. I think it's the main-stream gay scene that's fucked up. It seems like they all congregate at the same place and filth it up with their fear of society. A little fear is good, but not to that point... Anyway, i just thought it was relevant to the thread.

My neighbors are homosexual, and I never hear a peep out of them. *corncob*

[Frizzurd]

Thats cool. I just wish i could do something to make a difference and to have some dignity for myself without others fucking it up.

[kahljorn]

Straight people are ugly too. People are just ugly in general, they persecute their annointed 'lesser' to make themselves feel dignified. In the same respect, most of your being is a deviation from that aesthetic bit of irony; a manifestation if you will.
Maybe you handled it better than others? Use that as an example for yourself. There's really nothing that needs to be done to fix a situation like that, it will fix itself just by the passage of time. It would seem frivolous to invest any thought or action into it.
Which asks the question: how selfish of a topic is it? You act all dignified like you want to help the cause, but deep inside you just want the world to be a better place for you to fit in.

[Jonathan Clement]

I've come clsoe to looking through a home-made gallow. That shows you how much I hate lbierals.

[kahljorn]

Enough to spend a bunch of money on something that if you use it, you'll go to jail for a very long time? Why don't you just take up a cocaine addiction. The liberals won't bother you, and who knows, you might stop being such a worthless prick with human impotence. You god damned monotorian.

[Jonathan Clement]

And that's another thing! You fucking liberals are always promoting drugs!!! Always legalizing drugs! YOU WANT TO LEGALIZE EVERYTHING! Someday, somebody is going to overthrow this government! And we're gonig to be like Iraq! THEN who's going to be laughing?! You don't know what it's like, so just shut up.

[davinxtk]

jesus christ i am so sick of this guy



somebody please flush the toilet already i'm going insane




i can't believe you people still speak with him
what's wrong with you?

[Jonathan Clement]

You preach tolerance, and yet you HATE me! Maybe YOU'RE the one who needs to be more tolerant!

[davinxtk]

i want to kill you and your family

[Jonathan Clement]

Well, kill me, then! Make my day! Take me to where I can't be bothered by same sex marraige and abortion! Bring it on, mother fucker!

[Spectre X]

If anybody is going to overthrow the government one day, it'll be because the government was like Saddam's regime, i.e. opressive, because some small militia is not very likely to garner enough support to overthrow the US government.

A people being oppressed, however, would lead to millions of rebels, making a scenario in which the government is overthrown much more likely.

Also you're just plain wrong, Jon. So there. Wrong wrong wrong. And hateful. I don't hate you, I just pity you. You're just being a sad, small man.

[kahljorn]

"YOU WANT TO LEGALIZE EVERYTHING! Someday, somebody is going to overthrow this government! And we're gonig to be like Iraq!"

Yea, cause you know, drugs are completely legal in iraq.. and gay marriages.. and everything else that's evil, not like it's a horribly religious state that was oppressed because of it's connection to religion. If you were trying to be funny you got a small chuckle out of me.

[kellychaos]

Straight people are ugly too. People are just ugly in general, they persecute their annointed 'lesser' to make themselves feel dignified. In the same respect, most of your being is a deviation from that aesthetic bit of irony; a manifestation if you will.
Maybe you handled it better than others? Use that as an example for yourself. There's really nothing that needs to be done to fix a situation like that, it will fix itself just by the passage of time. It would seem frivolous to invest any thought or action into it.
Which asks the question: how selfish of a topic is it? You act all dignified like you want to help the cause, but deep inside you just want the world to be a better place for you to fit in.

THIS is the fulcrum upon which this thread rests. Forget "homo" or whatever sexuality. Though there are a lot of societal pressures ... "the greatessssst love of all" ... Whitney Houston and all that tripe ... whatever, fuck all.

I know, easier said than done but, truly, give yourself a break first. Right? :/

I never imagined myself being chicken soup for the soul. I feel the love of Oprah pressing down on me now and it is immense. Preach on, my nubian queen.

[Jonathan Clement]

I wish you knew what it was like... I wish I could force you to watch your family be murdered before your very eyes. Then, you'll know what my pain is like.

[Ant10708]

Why don't you murder his parents and make him watch? Have sex with their corpses to make sure he really knows what the pain is like.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

This thread is getting very weird and angsty.

Jonathan, I know you're very clever, but could we chill out a bit? If the thread devolves into killing each other's parents I'll need to lock it.

[sadie]

hasn't it already?

[Rosenstern]

You heard him, Jon! On with the parent killing!

[KevinTheOmnivore]

hasn't it already?

Yes, but I was told not to abuse my new super powers. :(

Ya know, with great power, blah blah....

[Immortal Goat]

I wish you knew what it was like... I wish I could force you to watch your family be murdered before your very eyes. Then, you'll know what my pain is like.

May I just ask: What the fuck has this got to do with someone's parent's getting killed, and what does that even have to do with liberals?

[davinxtk]

What it has to do with is me running into this fat kid's house late at night with a short sword and sticking it in mommy and daddy's neck, then impaling the little brother on a stake and barbecuing his corpse, still clad in pajamas, on the spot. Then I'll run Clement himself straight through the chest and burn the fucking house down.



Shall we consider it locked, Kevin?

[Spectre X]

hasn't it already?

Yes, but I was told not to abuse my new super powers. :(

Ya know, with great power, blah blah....

With great power comes great enjoyment when abusing that power for your own selfish ends.