Atheism.

[Womti]

Why I believe that there is no god is simple: when one tries to 'pray' to him, what does one get in return? Also, as for the bible, who wrote it? I know 'god' certainly didnt. I know no one says god did, but seriously, where did the bible come from?? As for why I believe there is no god try to think of it this way and you might understand: imagine that you had been born into and raised, and never heard about god, religion, the holy grail. all that crap. now think: when you go outside, look around, and think, "boy, that tree sure is tall", or "gee those mushrooms look strangely appealing" is there any part of you that says "hmmm, I think that there must be some unknown entity out there who created me and placed me here for no apparent reason thats exactly why I'm going to devote my entire being to him!!".

I mean, come ON, people. there is nothing, absolutely NOTHING that hints toward the presence of a higher being. you think animals believe in god? when we were animals, before we "evolved" or whatever the fuck happened, we sure as hell didnt think of jesus. we were too busy hunting and staying alive.

once again, I'll say, that there is no sensory impact that tells us there is a god. you cant see god, smell god, feel god, hell, you cant even TASTE god! seriously, though you cant sense god. and what you cant sense, just simply isnt there. I mean, would you believe in spy satellites if you didnt know they existed??

This is pretty much why I dont believe in god. If anyone has any replies, opinions, criticism, or hate comments on this topic they feel the need to post, then please do so!

[KevinTheOmnivore]

i'm certain we'll solve this one this time around.

Have at it, guys!

[Spectre X]

Use paragraphs. You make me ashamed to be an atheist.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

"Atheism: the religion devoted to the worship of one's own smug sense of superiority."

-Stephen Colbert

[xbxDaniel]

I believe that there are planets. Like Mars, and Jupiter. I know it's stupid and probably just a fad that's going to pass over. I've never actually seen Jupiter even.

As for satelites, I don't believe in them. I mean, what kind of idiot would believe that some type of "man-made" "craft" could fly into "space" and "send" down "transmissions". Jeez, what an ignorant person that would be.

Really I should've just stuck with rolling eyes emoticon.

[ScruU2wice]

womti is there a clever internet picture from ebaumsworld that goes along with your sig?

[CaptainBubba]

Yea this is basically just the "I HATE YOU MOM AND DAD" faux-aethiest teen's argument against god they make in bible camp when the other kids are trying to go to sleep.

You'd have made a more convincing point if instead of that paragraph you chose to simply display this:


http://www.benedictsbus.com/larry_cable_guy.JPG

[Womti]

So you're saying I should worship him?? Larry is pretty funny, but, hes a cable guy, and he's an idiot. That's not much of a plus.

[xbxDaniel]

You're ignorance far surpasses any other attribute you possess.

[Skulhedface]

In that case, here's a list of further questions which you can further use in your quest to piss off your parents:

-If God created everything, who created God?
-Can God be tickled?
-God is forever. What happened before that? Did he "just get around to it" one fine day, pre-B.C.?
-DID GOD PUT DINOSAURS HERE TO TEST OUR FAITH? You don't hear much about Jesus pulling a thorn out of a brontosaurus paw!
-lol I saw this on a t-shirt once: My dad can beat up your god! How true if he doesn't exist!
-How does an all-knowing, all-loving god allow bad things to exist, like the Holocaust, World War II and the latest season of the Simpsons?
-Why, God, why, after years of praying, haven't I won the lottery yet???

Be sure to post again once you reach the foster home, k?

damn dime-store atheists...

[CrazyBlackDude]

Religious people make me laugh. The only argument I've seen in favor of their faith is when they shove their fingers into their ears and sing "LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU"

[KevinTheOmnivore]

You sure are one crazy black dude. :lol :(

[Womti]

crazy black dude?? WHERE??!! :chatter (just one more typical afternoon down in texas)

[CrazyBlackDude]

You sure are one crazy black dude. :lol :(

Not nearly as crazy as the self-righteous hypocritical powermongering religious bastards around today.

[The One and Only...]

There's a couple decent arguments, but they're all flawed. Berkelian idealism and the Cosmological Argument are my favorites.

[Spectre X]

Hardly anybody cares about what you think, OAO. And the few people that do care only care to ridicule you.

[CrazyBlackDude]

Hardly anybody cares about what you think, OAO. And the few people that do care only care to ridicule you.

I doubt the populace hangs onto your every word either, hypocrite.

[Spectre X]

Hardly anybody cares about what you think, OAO. And the few people that do care only care to ridicule you.

I doubt the populace hangs onto your every word either, hypocrite.

I doubt the populace hangs onto your every word either, hypocrite.

[CrazyBlackDude]

Hardly anybody cares about what you think, OAO. And the few people that do care only care to ridicule you.

I doubt the populace hangs onto your every word either, hypocrite.

I doubt the populace hangs onto your every word either, hypocrite.

The irony is crushing.

[MLE]

i don't think you 'got it'

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Hardly anybody cares about what you think, OAO. And the few people that do care only care to ridicule you.

I doubt the populace hangs onto your every word either, hypocrite.

I doubt the populace hangs onto your every word either, hypocrite.

The irony is crushing.

AAHH!!

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Not nearly as crazy as the self-righteous hypocritical powermongering religious bastards around today.

Well with secular intellects such as yourself out there, I'm shocked that these people haven't been crushed by now!

[ArrowX]

If god exists, the answer to all the hollocaust questions is simple.

God created us and gave us free will, besides that we kinda killed his son. Now I have no children but I think I'd be a little more than pissed off if you killed my kid.

[CrazyBlackDude]

Not nearly as crazy as the self-righteous hypocritical powermongering religious bastards around today.

Well with secular intellects such as yourself out there, I'm shocked that these people haven't been crushed by now!

It's not the intelligence of the elite, it's the stupidity of the masses.

It's pretty obvious you'd rather just be sarcastic than actually discuss atheism versus theism, though.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

It's pretty obvious that you aren't capable of having a serious conversation about it, especially judging from your first post in this thread.

How about this-- before you demand a "discussion" on atheism, how about you grow up a bit, and maybe even support a couple of the wild and erronious claims you've made in this thread...? Sound like a plan?

[ScruU2wice]

If god exists, the answer to all the hollocaust questions is simple.

God created us and gave us free will, besides that we kinda killed his son. Now I have no children but I think I'd be a little more than pissed off if you killed my kid.


yeah, that's the answer...

[mozz]

I am agnostic. Whos knows? He might be a neutrul god, showing both good and evil. Or maybe there is a next world, after death. Or maybe there isnt anygod. At this moment nobody knows. But alot of people use god in a phycological term, using him as hope. Hoping he will answer their prayers.

[Womti]

if god is real, then he's an asshole. why would he let me go to hell?? he should just get off his lazy immortal ass and go kill satan already! >: then we wouldnt have to worry about sins. it would also be pretty selfish, having us worship him like we do. interesting topic: would a clone regard the scientists who created it/him/her as gods? what sort of belief/worship system would he establish??

[mozz]

if god is real, then he's an asshole. why would he let me go to hell?? he should just get off his lazy immortal ass and go kill satan already! >: then we wouldnt have to worry about sins. it would also be pretty selfish, having us worship him like we do. interesting topic: would a clone regard the scientists who created it/him/her as gods? what sort of belief/worship system would he establish??
Surely god would be peaceful. Maybe Satans more powerful. Do you deserve hell? Does hell exist?

The main atheist theory is keep asking questions:
What caused the world>What caused the universe>What caused god?
Nobody can find that answer.

[Womti]

you should stick to religion/atheism threads. you're annoying anywhere else. :/

[ziggytrix]

[Devil's advocate]

The natural selection system put forth by Charles Darwin is analagous to an "ethereal selection" system implied by evangelical Christianity. In other words, God is making the best souls possible using a rigorous screening process we call "life". It's a grain of an idea anyway...

[Womti]

darwin was waaaay off about all that evolution crap.

[mozz]

[Devil's advocate]

The natural selection system put forth by Charles Darwin is analagous to an "ethereal selection" system implied by evangelical Christianity. In other words, God is making the best souls possible using a rigorous screening process we call "life". It's a grain of an idea anyway...
If that is true, What does god want with these souls, and would there be another life to test them?

[ScruU2wice]

Every time I hear people say god doesn't exist because there is bad in this world, I feel like vomiting.

First of all we got kicked out of heaven, this place isn't suppose to be an orgasm party, it's our punishment. Furthermore, If God is omnipotent then He is niether good or evil, but omnipotent. Now you can go off on another tangent about knowing what being omnipotent is but, being all powerful is something that we have never really been good at wrapping our brains around. It's a cliche state but it's like 3 dimensional imagining itself in a nth dimensional world.

As for putting all of your faith in science and math. Science theories and hypothesiseses are constantly changing, check out the concept of ether. and Math is only based upon our own preceptions of the world. It's basically something we invented to describe the world around us. But even with all that Math still has infinite amount of paradoxes and fallicies.

[mozz]

Every time I hear people say god doesn't exist because there is bad in this world, I feel like vomiting.

First of all we got kicked out of heaven, this place isn't suppose to be an orgasm party, it's our punishment. Furthermore, If God is omnipotent then He is niether good or evil, but omnipotent. Now you can go off on another tangent about knowing what being omnipotent is but, being all powerful is something that we have never really been good at wrapping our brains around. It's a cliche state but it's like 3 dimensional imagining itself in a nth dimensional world.

As for putting all of your faith in science and math. Science theories and hypothesiseses are constantly changing, check out the concept of ether. and Math is only based upon our own preceptions of the world. It's basically something we invented to describe the world around us. But even with all that Math still has infinite amount of paradoxes and fallicies.

Exactly. That's why I am agnostic. 50/50. But god isnt benevolent thats for sure.

[ziggytrix]

ScruU2wice, you just made a lot of statements of faith as though they were fact. I'm curious, who believes we were kicked out of heaven? Who says God is omnipotent, but NOT omnibenevolent? Are you speaking from your personal faith, or from a doctrine?

[Spectre X]

Every time I hear people say god doesn't exist because there is bad in this world, I feel like vomiting.

First of all we got kicked out of heaven, this place isn't suppose to be an orgasm party, it's our punishment.

You've proven yourself wrong. Why should we get punished for what two people who we know hardly anything about did, thousands of years ago?

[ziggytrix]

I don't think Scru is a Christian, but it should be noted that most Christians insist their God is omnibenevolent, despite scripture like Isaiah 45:7.

[mozz]

Every time I hear people say god doesn't exist because there is bad in this world, I feel like vomiting.

First of all we got kicked out of heaven, this place isn't suppose to be an orgasm party, it's our punishment.

You've proven yourself wrong. Why should we get punished for what two people who we know hardly anything about did, thousands of years ago?

Because god got really pissed?
Maybe time goes faster for him. Like bacteria takes one hour to multiply, 9 months for humans, so as he is more powerful and no doubt bigger. Time will go faster and thousands of years will seem like mear hours.

But i doubt thats true.

A good theory is that within one universe there is another and so on. The futher the smaller. I think its the expanding universe therum.

[Spectre X]

Every time I hear people say god doesn't exist because there is bad in this world, I feel like vomiting.

First of all we got kicked out of heaven, this place isn't suppose to be an orgasm party, it's our punishment.

You've proven yourself wrong. Why should we get punished for what two people who we know hardly anything about did, thousands of years ago?

Because god got really pissed?
Maybe time goes faster for him. Like bacteria takes one hour to multiply, 9 months for humans, so as he is more powerful and no doubt bigger. Time will go faster and thousands of years will seem like mear hours.

But i doubt thats true.

I doubt that, too, because God is supposed to be omniscient, meaning he knows all and percieves all in every way imaginable.

[mozz]

God is supposed to be omniscient, omnipotent and benevelent. Theres little proof of this. In all truth i think relgion is just a false hope for people who have are down. But some times i feel as if prayers have been answered, but they could of been down to chance. I'll never know, unless something drastic and obvious shows me.

[ziggytrix]

The assumption that God is necessarily any of those 3 things is an act of faith, distinct to the particular flavor of theism the seeker chooses to embrace.

Perhaps "free will" as we definine it is not a quality of God (ie God cannot choose to do evil). Such a God would not be omnipotent. Or perhaps God does not have the same concept of benevolence as the average monotheist gives It.

Or maybe God is omnimischevious (but not omnimalicious) and omnipotent, and this existence is His idea of a terribly funny joke.

Being agnostic sucks.

[kahljorn]

"when one tries to 'pray' to him, what does one get in return?"

Only spoiled little kids think you pray for ponies and skateboards, jackass.

"Also, as for the bible, who wrote it?"

Moses, syrians, an assortment of other people and ripped off mythological stories that have been around for even longer than christianity.


" imagine that you had been born into and raised, and never heard about god, religion, the holy grail. all that crap. now think: when you go outside, look around, and think, "boy, that tree sure is tall", or "gee those mushrooms look strangely appealing" is there any part of you that says "hmmm, I think that there must be some unknown entity out there who created me and placed me here for no apparent reason thats exactly why I'm going to devote my entire being to him!!". "

Well apparantly somebody thought that because the religion fucking exists. So I guess 2,000 years ago or so some asshole did exactly what you just said.

"you think animals believe in god? when we were animals, before we "evolved" or whatever the fuck happened, we sure as hell didnt think of jesus. we were too busy hunting and staying alive. "

What does what/how we think have anything to do with God? Kids these days think their thoughts are so important.

"that there is no sensory impact that tells us there is a god. you cant see god, smell god, feel god, hell, you cant even TASTE god! seriously, though you cant sense god."

Yea you know unless the universe is God's body-- or whatthefuckever lame ass metaphore will do it for you. Then interaction with any object is interaction with god. Geez what a line of logic that somehow communication with the inventions of god could somehow be like communicated with god himself. The idea that God is everywhere could tie that together for you...
And why does god have to be a person?
Why are people so stupid? I pray about that all the time...

If you're going to supply arguments against god at least make them something pondersome, you jackass.

[ScruU2wice]

ScruU2wice, you just made a lot of statements of faith as though they were fact. I'm curious, who believes we were kicked out of heaven? Who says God is omnipotent, but NOT omnibenevolent? Are you speaking from your personal faith, or from a doctrine?

I was talking from perspective of a Christian who listens to Atheists Christ-bash, by just saying God doesn't exist because it doesn't make sense, and that all christians are st00pid. I'm not a christian but I don't really hear alot of kids bash Islam beside saying we all hump goats.

But muslims do believe that we got exiled from heaven for the forbidden fruit thing, so I guess I'm talking from an Islamic perspective? But in Islam God is the source of everything good and evil.

I really try to stay away from god vs. no god discussions for that reason. I'll walk away from my computer for an hour and I forget what I was thinking when I originally posted, and now I read it just sounds like I'm peddling my beliefs...

[mozz]

The assumption that God is necessarily any of those 3 things is an act of faith, distinct to the particular flavor of theism the seeker chooses to embrace.

Perhaps "free will" as we definine it is not a quality of God (ie God cannot choose to do evil). Such a God would not be omnipotent. Or perhaps God does not have the same concept of benevolence as the average monotheist gives It.

Or maybe God is omnimischevious (but not omnimalicious) and omnipotent, and this existence is His idea of a terribly funny joke.

Being agnostic sucks.

Maybe god gave us freewill, so werent just...brainless.

[ziggytrix]

I didn't say anything about human free will. We're talking about God.

[sadie]

mozz must not have gotten his. :P

[mozz]

Perhaps "free will" as we definine it is not a quality of God
You didn't mention free will?

[ziggytrix]

Speaking of Will, I saw an episode of Fresh Prince of Bel Air last night. Man that Prince sure can sing. Speaking of singing, how can angels sing if there's no air in space? Do they sing and you just can't hear them? >:

[kahljorn]

Angels aren't in space, duh. They're in "Heaven" which is like an entirely different dimensional sphere. I mean come on man you at least gotta keep up with your hippocratus philosophy otherwise you might develop that heathen idea of the earth not being the center of the universe and there being more than the seven true planets and all that.

[ziggytrix]

Speaking of hippocratus philosophy, do you think maybe my new dentist wants to give me more fillings than I really need? I know I've got one cavity that needs a filling, but what if he wants to just make a little more money! >:

[mozz]

lol at your private healthcare. Included in tax in UK. Shit as fuck though. :(
Well, maybe heavens like a 5th dimension.

[kahljorn]

"I know I've got one cavity that needs a filling, but what if he wants to just make a little more money!"

Tamiflu thread. UNITATION VERBSUS THE EVIL HIPPOCRATUS EMPIRE

[Pub Lover]

Well, maybe heavens like a 5th dimension.
String Theory requires 11 dimensions, & M-Theory needs 13+! :eek

Science can make less sense than Religion at times.

I agree with KahlJorn completly in this thread. :(

[mozz]

Dam you science!

[ShaunHorsePony]

Crazy black cunt and the guy who started this thing, you guys obviously have no idea about any religions history or culture other than what you read for 5 minutes on the internet or what your mummys and daddies told you, so I think you should shut up.


:/

[mozz]

The thread is about atheism. Not about how certain cultures have worshipped the same god for thousands of years. It's about people who dont believe in god, so no. You shut up.

[CrazyBlackDude]

Crazy black cunt and the guy who started this thing, you guys obviously have no idea about any religions history or culture other than what you read for 5 minutes on the internet or what your mummys and daddies told you, so I think you should shut up.


:/

What the hell are you talking about?

Number one: 5 minutes would be enough to convice any kind of mentally stable person of how ridicuous religion is.

Number two: I have far more experience with religions than that, good job on baseless assumptions.

Number three: The shortcomings and fallacies of religion are quite obvious and do not require reading into a religion's history to understand that.

People believe in life after death because they are afraid of dying a meaningless death.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

How did you gather such experience in religions?

[CrazyBlackDude]

I've gone to church, I watch the news, I've had religious debates with fundamentalists, I've read about religion, I have religious friends. I live in the real world and religion is everywhere. A real question would be: how can one NOT have experience with religions?

[Emu]

You're friends with OAO, aren't you? That makes you...what, 12? 12 and a half?

[Pub Lover]

If Atheists are so certain that God doesn't exist, why don't they just sit back & look smug whenever someone says different, rather than getting all riled up as if someone was attacking their core belief system?





:rolleyes

[CrazyBlackDude]

If Atheists are so certain that God doesn't exist, why don't they just sit back & look smug whenever someone says different, rather than getting all riled up as if someone was attacking their core belief system?





:rolleyes

Most such incidences probably come from having their beliefs encroached upon, for example, Madalyn Murray O'Hair's lawsuit against the teacher-led prayers in school for her atheist son, or perhaps Kansas's trying to get Intelligent Design taught in biology class, despite having little in common with actual scientific theory.

[Pub Lover]

Surely they were not forced to pray, or to believe in ID. >:

I went to Catholic School, & I was allowed to sit at the back & look smug whenever they did some religious thing. It's a fun feeling thinking you're smarter than everyone around you.

[CrazyBlackDude]

In both instances, it's more of a case of violation of separation of Church and State, but the point is, 99% of atheists don't just attack Christians for no reason.

[Pub Lover]

You American's are crazy. Not having a state endorsed religion is way differant to having religious state employes, or to you make your president renounce his religion before he takes office?

[CrazyBlackDude]

I'd prefer an atheist President, but due to equal rights and such, political positions are not widthheld from religious people.

[Jixby Phillips]

http://www.novirginsallowed.com/misc/athiest.gif

[kahljorn]

ATHEISM IS THE ONE TRUE RELIGION

[mozz]

Agnostica pwns atheism.

[xbxDaniel]

I saw some guy, at Wal-Mart, who had a sticker on his window saying:
National Atheist's Day
April 1st


Just felt like tossing this out there.

[ziggytrix]

That's almost as clever and original as the little ΙΧΘΥΣ fish eating the Darwin fish I've seen on countless cars.

[xbxDaniel]

You forgot the rolling eyes. :rolleyes

[Emu]

I'd prefer an atheist President, but due to equal rights and such, political positions are not widthheld from religious people.

Why does it matter what the president's religion is? If you want an atheist president simply so he can create benefits for your specific religious outlook, you're just as bad as Christians that want the same thing.

Can we ban this moron now?

[kahljorn]

"99% of atheists don't just attack Christians for no reason."

This guy sure knows how to push the envelope.

Do atheists really even consider themselves, "Believers"? What do they really believe in, because I know it's not, "Belief in no God", there's got to be something more to it... right?

[Womti]

after reading some jules feffer, I decided it was only necessary to post this:

"todays book is a rather bulky but promising first attempt by author or authors unknown. its called the bible. it is written in a narrative rather than introspective style which may perhaps make for quicker reading, but leaves something to be desired on the level of character motivation. it purports to be a theological and historical document, and while this reviewer does not question its sincerity, he can only regret the publishers failure to include a bibliography. but these are minor criticisms.

one cannot deny the power and sweeping range of the subject matter(one might even call it epic-). the subtle allegorical nuances touched, at times, with what seems to be an almost metaphysical insight! it will undoubtedly cause controversy in the literary field. but the authors, while writing in a quasi-journalistic form show occasional flourishes of stylistic daring which makes one impatient to view their later efforts.

I shall await their second book with great interest."- Jules Feiffer.

[Womti]

WHOOPS DOUBLE POST :(

[kahljorn]

That was the stupidest thing I've ever read, womti.

[Womti]

TAKE IT UP WITH MR. FEIFFER, ASSHOLE. >:

[ziggytrix]

Mr. Feiffer does not post here, and neither should you. Quit goofing off on the internet and get a job, you worthelss bum.

[Emu]

after reading some jules feffer, I decided it was only necessary to post this:

"todays book is a rather bulky but promising first attempt by author or authors unknown. its called the bible. it is written in a narrative rather than introspective style which may perhaps make for quicker reading, but leaves something to be desired on the level of character motivation. it purports to be a theological and historical document, and while this reviewer does not question its sincerity, he can only regret the publishers failure to include a bibliography. but these are minor criticisms.

one cannot deny the power and sweeping range of the subject matter(one might even call it epic-). the subtle allegorical nuances touched, at times, with what seems to be an almost metaphysical insight! it will undoubtedly cause controversy in the literary field. but the authors, while writing in a quasi-journalistic form show occasional flourishes of stylistic daring which makes one impatient to view their later efforts.

I shall await their second book with great interest."- Jules Feiffer.

Womti, I realize you're not the smartest person on this boards. You're a little slow. An "imbecile" or "clod," if you will.

Despite that, how the fuck can you read that and not be pissed off at the sheer pretension dripping from that thing? You can't chide Christians for acting pretentious toward you and then turn around and do the same thing to them and call it self-defense. The more you post in this thread, the more obvious it is that you don't have the spiritual, intellectual or logical capacity to defend your choices on matters of faith, and the only reason you seem to be an atheist is because you have some kind of grudge with your conception of God.

[Womti]

you know what, since this thread has just turned into yet another place for you all to disrespect me..........THREAD BACKUPS >:

[Guitar Woman]

you know what,

[Guitar Woman]

No.

[Emu]

you know what, since this thread has just turned into yet another place for you all to disrespect me..........THREAD BACKUPS >:

It's not "disrespect" if you haven't earned my respect, you fucking tool. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't defend yourself, so you go bitch about people attacking you and try to call the whole thing off before someone can call bullshit on your moronic outlook.

[Womti]

okay.... then I'm a fucking idiot. happy now?

[Emu]

No. :(

[Womti]

then just what would make you happy, perv?? >:

[Emu]

Some wild rice and chicken soup. :yum

[Womti]

I skipped lunch, sorry. so all I have is mcdonalds. still mad then?

[Spectre X]

after reading some jules feffer, I decided it was only necessary to post this:

"todays book is a rather bulky but promising first attempt by author or authors unknown. its called the bible. it is written in a narrative rather than introspective style which may perhaps make for quicker reading, but leaves something to be desired on the level of character motivation. it purports to be a theological and historical document, and while this reviewer does not question its sincerity, he can only regret the publishers failure to include a bibliography. but these are minor criticisms.

one cannot deny the power and sweeping range of the subject matter(one might even call it epic-). the subtle allegorical nuances touched, at times, with what seems to be an almost metaphysical insight! it will undoubtedly cause controversy in the literary field. but the authors, while writing in a quasi-journalistic form show occasional flourishes of stylistic daring which makes one impatient to view their later efforts.

I shall await their second book with great interest."- Jules Feiffer.

Womti, I realize you're not the smartest person on this boards. You're a little slow. An "imbecile" or "clod," if you will.

Despite that, how the fuck can you read that and not be pissed off at the sheer pretension dripping from that thing? You can't chide Christians for acting pretentious toward you and then turn around and do the same thing to them and call it self-defense. The more you post in this thread, the more obvious it is that you don't have the spiritual, intellectual or logical capacity to defend your choices on matters of faith, and the only reason you seem to be an atheist is because you have some kind of grudge with your conception of God.

Actually, the last line of that exceprt makes me think it's a joke.

Haha, "Second book".

[Womti]

oh great, NOW someone gets it. >: jules feiffer is a cartoonist by the way, so I couldnt include the image of the old man holding the bible and speaking. my mistake.

[ziggytrix]

He's so wrong though! The Book of Mormon was HORRIBLE! Even worse than the last Wheel of Time book, if you can believe that!!!

[Womti]

thats why I posted it. it also shows how blind christians are in their faith. "I shall await their second book with great interest." obviously, there is no second book. its a cartoon, so thats what makes it funny!

[kahljorn]

It was a joke? Geez, I would've never guessed. Thanks guys.

[Emu]

I know it was a joke. It was just a stupid, pretentious joke.

[Womti]

it wasnt bad, so it was worth posting.