So kulturkampf...

[The One and Only...]

Ever hear of critical theory? How about heteronormativity?

[Kulturkampf]

Ever hear of critical theory? How about heteronormativity?

I would be lying if I said I did.

Trying to regain some ego over the deconstructionist bit?

It is okay, I am sure you are smarter than me, so go ahead and make your point.

[mburbank]

OH MY GOD, LOCK THIS THREAD BEFORE IT HAS BABIES!!!

[AChimp]

DONE :(

[KevinTheOmnivore]

UNDONE, BITCH! >: :fu

[mburbank]

I was kidding. I'm never in favor of cencorship. If this thread has babies we can always hit them with a hammer right as they come out.

[Emu]

I think these babies will require more than a hammer. I have a few wooden stakes.

[AChimp]

SORRY I PANICKED. :(

[Cosmo Electrolux]

OAO is probably going to try to blow him anyway...or is he not bisexual anymore?....I've lost track.

[ScruU2wice]

seriously OAO vs. KKKlap was going to be awesome :(

[The One and Only...]

I would be lying if I said I did.

K.

Trying to regain some ego over the deconstructionist bit?

I have ego I need to regain?

It is okay, I am sure you are smarter than me, so go ahead and make your point.

My point is that you need to STFU you incredible N3WB. >:

Seriously, why do you refuse to accept sexuality as at least partially socially constructed?

[ziggytrix]

Genesis 5:2

[Immortal Goat]

Goddammit, OAO, NEVER FUCKING MAKE ME AGREE WITH YOU AGAIN! >:

On a serious note, if even OAO is making valid points where KummedinKilt can't, then we, my friends, have found ourselves a real keeper. Let's NEVER let him leave, like Vinth did.

[Kulturkampf]

I would point to societies, such as the Greeks, where even a degree of homosexuality was practiced or such as the Afghans, who though practiced pedastery (sp?), never thought it acceptable that their homosexuality would be an attraction to other adult men.

Even in societies that had no gender construct that would inherently pressure someone to be a heterosexual and even where havign sex with boys was acceptable, it eventually was viewed that a literal practice of homosexuality between two men acting as grown-up lovers was taboo.

Basically, in every society except a few where fucking young boys was cool, homosexuality has been viewed as not an acceptable way of life. It is not a natural form to the human.

[Chojin]

I would point to societies, such as the Greeks, where even a degree of homosexuality was practiced or such as the Afghans, who though practiced pedastery (sp?), never thought it acceptable that their homosexuality would be an attraction to other adult men.
...what?

[ziggytrix]

translation:

Adult male to young male homosexuality is a wonderful part of human nature, but adult male to adult male homosexuality is an abomination before God or Nature.

I'm flabbergasted!

[mburbank]

I'm sorry, I can't understand a word he said. Seriously. I THINK he's saying that adult homosexuality has always been taboo in every society and that this inherently means it's unnatural, but damn, it takes a lot of translation and leaps of Lingual faith to get to that meaning.

KittyKrap, if that's what you meant, how do you draw your conclusion, that universal Taboos are neccesarily unnatural? And what do you mean by universal? Because my guess is homos throghout history haven't embraced a taboo against their actions. So if 75% of folks always felt it was wrong, then it is? Or would 70% turn opinion into fact? What about 51%? What's your magic number fo0r making opinion fact?

Or am I totally wrong about what you were saying and what you really meant is your attrcated to pre-pubescent boys and you feel bad about it. 'Cause that seemed to be in there too.

[kahljorn]

He's saying it's okay to be a Pedophile.

[Emu]

I would point to societies, such as the Greeks, where even a degree of homosexuality was practiced ... never thought it acceptable that their homosexuality would be an attraction to other adult men.

Now it makes sense. Sorta.

Since when?

Edit: Also:

No entry found for pedastery.
Did you mean Poetastry?

Suggestions:
Poetastry
pedantry
plastery
pastry
poetaster
poetasters
poetaster's
poetasters'
lead story
pieds-a-terre
pieds-Ã -terre

Poetastry

\Po"et*as`try\, n. The works of a poetaster. [R.]

:lol

[The One and Only...]

I would point to societies, such as the Greeks, where even a degree of homosexuality was practiced or such as the Afghans, who though practiced pedastery (sp?), never thought it acceptable that their homosexuality would be an attraction to other adult men.

Even in societies that had no gender construct that would inherently pressure someone to be a heterosexual and even where havign sex with boys was acceptable, it eventually was viewed that a literal practice of homosexuality between two men acting as grown-up lovers was taboo.

Basically, in every society except a few where fucking young boys was cool, homosexuality has been viewed as not an acceptable way of life. It is not a natural form to the human.

So what? How it was viewed has absolutely nothing to do with it being natural.

[mburbank]

CAT FIGHT!!!

[Kulturkampf]

I'm sorry, I can't understand a word he said. Seriously. I THINK he's saying that adult homosexuality has always been taboo in every society and that this inherently means it's unnatural, but damn, it takes a lot of translation and leaps of Lingual faith to get to that meaning.

KittyKrap, if that's what you meant, how do you draw your conclusion, that universal Taboos are neccesarily unnatural? And what do you mean by universal? Because my guess is homos throghout history haven't embraced a taboo against their actions. So if 75% of folks always felt it was wrong, then it is? Or would 70% turn opinion into fact? What about 51%? What's your magic number fo0r making opinion fact?

Or am I totally wrong about what you were saying and what you really meant is your attrcated to pre-pubescent boys and you feel bad about it. 'Cause that seemed to be in there too.

The amount of people who are homosexuals in that sense have always been extremely few; very few people actually practice man-to-man love, so to speak, and so it is a deviation in sexual desire (which of course means nothing to a relativist).

[ScruU2wice]

very few people actually practice man-to-man love,

LOL :(

[Chojin]

http://beastybunny.com/lotr/funstuff/engrish/ttt/images/two-towers-49.jpg

[Kulturkampf]

Pedantry, I believe.

It is frowned upon by all people and practiced by an extreme minority of humans because it is....

unnatural.

Wrap your brain around a word.

[mburbank]

I don't frown upon it.

Do you not even know what the word 'all' means? How is anyone supposed to communicate with you, let lone argue. How are you going to 'wrap' anything around 'unatrural' if you don't even know what 'all' means?

[The One and Only...]

It is frowned upon by all people and practiced by an extreme minority of humans because it is....

unnatural.

Wrap your brain around a word.

Really? So I suppose cars are frowned upon as well? And the internet?

[derrida]

Maybe I misread your response, Kulturkampf but it seems to me that the examples you raise give credence to the idea that sexualities are at least partially socially constructed. If the lack of a homosexual sex taboo results in an apparent increase in homosexual behavior we can conclude that the exhibition (if not the genesis) of such behavior is influenced in part by social norms. (If you are interested I can look up scholarly articles for you regarding societies that are almost exclusively homosexual save for procreative sex)

[Kulturkampf]

It is frowned upon by all people and practiced by an extreme minority of humans because it is....

unnatural.

Wrap your brain around a word.

Really? So I suppose cars are frowned upon as well? And the internet?

Cars are not naturally occurring, but they are created tools and objects by humans that serve express purposes.

It is not natural to be born without legs or to be born blind, it is not normal; some sort of error occurred in the birth. However, would you say that it was natural?

In the broadest sense, it is anatural birth; but it is not a natural, normal, and healthy baby by any stretch.

Machines and humans are entirely different.

(and I am the pinkest flamingo)

[Kulturkampf]

Maybe I misread your response, Kulturkampf but it seems to me that the examples you raise give credence to the idea that sexualities are at least partially socially constructed. If the lack of a homosexual sex taboo results in an apparent increase in homosexual behavior we can conclude that the exhibition (if not the genesis) of such behavior is influenced in part by social norms. (If you are interested I can look up scholarly articles for you regarding societies that are almost exclusively homosexual save for procreative sex)]

Sexuality is partiallyc onstructed in the sense that in some societies promiscuity is condoned, and others is not; ti is also constructed as far as in some societies boy fucking is considered proper and fine, but i others it is not.

But even in Greek and Afghani cutlure, which had/have rich heritage in boy-fucking, literal homosexuality between man and man, not man and boy, is forbidden and punishable by ddeat in afghanistan and was punishable with forfeiture of all citizenship in Greece.

Facts are facts, and as a pink flamingo I only adhere to facts.

[mburbank]

I don't frown upon it.

Do you not even know what the word 'all' means? How is anyone supposed to communicate with you, let lone argue. How are you going to 'wrap' anything around 'unatrural' if you don't even know what 'all' means?


So... are you pro boy fucking?