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Chojin
Feb 4th, 2006, 06:10 PM
You can keep it in this thread instead of fagging up the other ones.
Having played COH/COV, Guild Wars, AO, UO, and others, I have OPINIONS which need IMMEDIATE SHARING.
Ultima Online was pretty gay and I have no idea why it's still running. People could steal from you at any time and murder you at any time and the guards did a shitty job of reprimanding them for it. There was really no way to avoid this except i think they eventually added a pvp-safe server. Which subsequently removed any point of playing the game at all. In the week I played, I mined a bunch of shit and never got to attack anything aside from wolves and straw dummies. Trash.
Anarchy Online was great in story in and concept and horrible in execution. In many ways it pioneered the random mission spawns seen in every other game and it let you tinker with the inner workings so that you could specify more money or xp, more mobs or more powerful mobs, physical or magic mobs, etc. It also let you have an apartment that you could decorate. The problem with AO is that the combat looked awful and PVP was dominated by snipers and anyone who had a clan that could buff them to the level where they could get the sexiest implants. And again, combat looked awful and uninspired. I played a nanomage and most of my attacks were just this straight purple line between me and the enemy. And that's all you can do in AO - fight things and run to places to fight things. Running to places is really slow, even if you have the million dollars required to buy a vehicle.
Guild Wars is a beautiful game (best looking of the ones out right now) and runs orgasmically. Seriously, best engine of any game I've ever played, MMO or otherwise. The game itself is intentionally simple but fun. The only 'epic' drops are not too far removed from the strongest normal weapons, and the epic armor has the exact same ratings as the strongest normal armor - Thereby satiating nerds' need to collect rare items and everyone else's desire to not die. The story is good, travelling is good, and gameplay is fun(Though the instant teleport to whereever does do a number on the game's depth, but it can't really be avoided due to most of the zones you teleport to being in a different time). Guild Wars' only and biggest downfall is its insipidly retarded player base. No monthly fees means that any kid can get it for a present and they will fuck up any team you might ever join. Lots of high-end missions require teamwork and the NPC henchmen (while a welcome addition to MMO gaming) are woefully inadequate in completing end-game content, forcing you to rely to ArrowX's birthday party to get the job done. I spent over 2 hours completing a mission that should have taken 20 minutes simply because we needed 6 competant people and at any given time could only collect 2. At one point we got so frustrated that we started giving simple intelligence tests to anyone that wanted to team with us - "What are the first 3 digits of Pi?" out of the 20 requests, 2 could answer. Even if you could find a guild of non-retards, the only end-game content available is an ability to fight the many guilds of retards. Okay. The game also needs an auction house so badly it makes my penis hurt.
I started City of Heroes about a year and a half ago, with my COH account inactive for about 6 months of that time. COX provides a few refreshing innovations in MMO gameplay - namely, that people actually move in combat. This is way more important than it sounds - the fights are actually interactive and when people start flying around as you pummel them you can begin to appreciate it. Your own movement is also important to gameplay, especially if you play a class without any passive defenses (Blaster/Dominator). Breaking from the MMO formula of two groups rushing at each other and swinging until one side falls over is a good thing. Also, the battles tend to be epic in proportion when you have a high level team, sometimes with as many as 60-80 characters on the screen (more if you have a few masterminds in tow). COV's addition of ragdoll is reason enough to buy the game and can lead to hilarious misadventures if you abuse the privledge. PVP content in COH was severely lacking when it was finally added, but COV's pvp zones set the state for some excellent PVP action. In-zone PVP missions are an extreme breath of fresh air into this franchise. The character editor is unmatched in any other MMO and the base editor has no equivalent. The game has its share of nitpicky problems, but the big ones are that it runs like shit on almost anything, your character sucks until level 20 (though it's unnoticable to new people until you get another character past that point), and there isn't anything to do aside from beat people up. The recent inclusion of Pocket D finally brings heroes and villains together to chat and trade (and possibly be able to perform cross-alignment missions), but there is no compelling reason to go there - It plays the same 1 song on loop and the only tangible reward is a badge for wasting 5 hours in the zone. As far as combat goes, this MMO is unmatched in my opinion. It's severely lacking in everything else and really needs its non-combat content to be tinkered with from someone who has a clue. The salvage/crafting system in COV is pointless and looks like it was tacked on just so they could claim to have crafting in the game.
I haven't played World of Warcraft, but I'd try it if given a free trial. The crafting system, auction house, and huge world are big plusses for me. Everything else seems to be typical MMO stuff that doesn't interest me in the least. Combat looks boring and the graphics look like shit. Character customization is more is less limited to what you wear, which is limited by how good the wearables are. The fact that everyone and their cat plays it is also a huge turn-off. I'll admit I want to hate this game for those reasons and more, but I'm also not above giving it a fair shot.
Oz is a "free" korean game in which you fish to get money to buy better fishing equipment, clothes, and housing. You can also CAST SPELLS at fish or at other players to jinx their fish-getting ability. The catch (lol am i right) is that it's impossible to catch fish until you get some good equipment. To get in-game money, you'll need to spend real money, and quite a fucking bit, too. No-one plays and the villages are really creepy at night - no-one's around. SILENT HILL. Their website is hilarious. Find it on google and read the testimonials.
Disney's toontown online deserves an award for being the only MMO that's worse than Oz. Your free account can't choose a name or even talk. Battles are final fantasy-style and consist entirely of you throwing objects you bought at the store at your enemies. HOORAY!
Second Life is an example of what happens when you let players build your game - It turns into a non-stop sex fiesta with detours through furryville. The game was obviously made with the most innocent of intentions and even tried to entice professional developers to add content through their in-game-money-to-real-money conversion program. As it stands, it's just a bunch of adolescents selling fursuits to strangers and getting lunch money in the process. The game plays awfully and has the worst lag of any MMO ever. The controls are ridiculous and the graphics are shitty, even for its time.
Auto Assault I am under NDA for and will defame when that's lifted.
Lineage II is a nice-looking game with no customization or reason to play. Combat looks nice but is typical and uninspired. On the pirate servers you get WAY more cash than on the official ones, and it still doesn't come quick enough. Another game that needs an auction house.
Ragnarok Online is a cutesy anime MMO that's the same as every other MMO. This would be "Lineage II 2D" if Lineage I didn't already fulfill that purpose. It's also hard to tell what you're doing at any given point in time. The developers can't seem to agree on whether or not to keep it free.
Dark Ages costs way too much for what it is - an old, typical 2D MMO with bad graphics even for 1998 or whenever the hell it came out. Basically Ragnarok with shitty graphics.
VITRIOL.
bigtimecow
Feb 4th, 2006, 06:34 PM
nexus: kingdom of the winds is pretty lame graphically too, but it was fun.
EisigerBiskuit
Feb 4th, 2006, 06:50 PM
Face of Mankind is the only MMO you can play that will teach you just how gay law enforcement can get.
Misdemonar
Feb 4th, 2006, 07:29 PM
FOM is gay. Even if you're the law.
DamnthatDavid
Feb 4th, 2006, 07:32 PM
Second Life is an example of what happens when you let players build your game - It turns into a non-stop sex fiesta with detours through furryville. The game was obviously made with the most innocent of intentions and even tried to entice professional developers to add content through their in-game-money-to-real-money conversion program. As it stands, it's just a bunch of adolescents selling fursuits to strangers and getting lunch money in the process. The game plays awfully and has the worst lag of any MMO ever. The controls are ridiculous and the graphics are shitty, even for its time.
heh, my cousin works for that company. He the official "news" guy for the people who play.[/quote]
Supafly345
Feb 4th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Your penis hurting at the lack of an auction house? You get THAT hard from not selling stuff?
eggyolk
Feb 4th, 2006, 09:11 PM
ive heard the complaint that World of Warcraft's graphics are somewhat lacking, and looking at screenshots, one can only agree. having played the warcraft series for some time, im humbly pleased by the graphics engine. rather than spending time on ultra realistic models, the developers stuck to the traditional "warcraft" art style.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/screenshots/images/screenoftheday/ss0500.jpg
a good example here. notice the basic art style of the tower and bridge, a scene familiar to warcraft players.
Marc Summers
Feb 4th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Well here's a couple that are coming, but probably not for a while :(
Granado Espada (http://ge.hanbiton.com/) looks decent, and you get to control 3 people instead of one. I don't know exactly how the character selection works, but I think your account is a family, and all your characters are family members and you pick 3 to take with you I don't know...
It's also a wet dream for stuffy-aristocrat fetishists.
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9969/gegallery0050ab.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gegallery0050ab.jpg) http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/1927/gegallery0073tk.th.jpg (http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gegallery0073tk.jpg) http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/5013/gegallery0228bt.th.jpg (http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gegallery0228bt.jpg)
The Korean site has more content than the English one, but...it's in Korean :/
Zera (www.zera.com) also has decent graphics, don't know much about it, but I think it has a pretty awesome soundtrack, considering they used an actual orchestra. It seems there's a ton of emphasis on presentation and graphics, so hopefully the gameplay will be good. I think you pick up runes that give you skills, and there are these other things you can use to link your moves together or something...
I wish I knew if this was actually going to go English :/
Do you like big swords? How about swords with decorative interlacing? Fanciful armor with pretentious designs? This is the game for YOU
So I'll just post some videos since I don't feel like posting pics (I didn't look at them so don't get mad if it's Korean porn or something)
http://s.nx.com/S2/ZerA_OB/image/pds/download/movie01.zip
http://s.nx.com/S2/ZerA_OB/image/pds/download/movie02.zip
http://s.nx.com/S2/ZerA_OB/image/pds/download/movie03.zip
Also theres Soul of the Ultimate Nation (SUN) (http://www.webzengames.com/Game/Sun/default.asp) and I'm done trying to post media here so just go there yourself and look at the light effects on the armor or something
AChimp
Feb 4th, 2006, 09:33 PM
I think the graphics in Warcraft are awesome. From a technical standpoint, they're better than a lot of other games out there (and I'm running WoW on full-on-everything-balls-flapping-in-the-wind). The problem that you guys seem to be having with it seems to be more with the artistic style.
I like the cartoony stuff. >:
Chojin
Feb 4th, 2006, 09:49 PM
The graphics in wow are awesome from the understanding that the graphics in a stick figure animation are awesome for the medium. Compared to other MMOs it's lacking.
eggyolk
Feb 4th, 2006, 09:54 PM
screenshots cant compare to the actual gameplay experience. unless you play the game and experience it first hand, you cant really have a reasonable complaint.
ABSeNCe
Feb 4th, 2006, 10:39 PM
I'm excited for APB, but at this point its only a nocturnal emission :(
Emu
Feb 4th, 2006, 11:18 PM
I haven't played WoW (except once for an hour at a friend's house), but from what I understand, the game has departed so much from the original Warcraft storyline as to become completely gay. That and they have no single player mode, which I hate.
Supafly345
Feb 4th, 2006, 11:24 PM
screenshots cant compare to the actual gameplay experience. unless you play the game and experience it first hand, you cant really have a reasonable complaint.I hate weiner defences against criticism like that. Its on a similar type of idiocy as when you say that a certain song by a popular artist sucks, then someone bites back "oh yeah? you don't know how hard it is to make a song so shut up."
Ninjavenom
Feb 4th, 2006, 11:34 PM
I would love to see WoW with darker, less cartoony graphics, but it would require a complete revamp of the way the series looks to do that. I like it just fine the way it is.
Misdemonar
Feb 5th, 2006, 12:10 AM
I haven't played WoW (except once for an hour at a friend's house), but from what I understand, the game has departed so much from the original Warcraft storyline as to become completely gay. That and they have no single player mode, which I hate.
actually, there pretty much is no story.
AChimp
Feb 5th, 2006, 01:10 AM
I haven't played WoW (except once for an hour at a friend's house), but from what I understand, the game has departed so much from the original Warcraft storyline as to become completely gay. That and they have no single player mode, which I hate.
:lol
Why would it be an MMORPG if it had a single-player mode? Learn 2 talk to people. Plus, you can always leave all of the chat channels and solo everything if you really want to.
Chojin
Feb 5th, 2006, 02:04 AM
Achimp, this is your first warning - Using numbers instead of words is universally accepted as gay behavior and is not tolerated on these forums.
I didn't say WOW sucked because it had bad graphics, it just does. I feel that the look they're going for requires bad graphics. I feel that they have bad graphics not because they've failed at anything, it's just a fact of what they're trying to do to begin with. If you make a game centered around having sex with dogs, it doesn't make that game not horrible for fulfilling all goals.
Juttin
Feb 5th, 2006, 02:05 AM
GAH! MOD BATTLE!
Also,something to do with gaming.
How 'bout Silent Shadows? It's.....kinda...good,I guess.
Gunbound is just,Worms,only with one (Dumbass) weapon,and not as good. As for MMO,you never said RPG,so I'm saying RE:Outbreak.....ONLINE. It's one of those games that's hard,even on easy,offline,but is ALWAYS easy as hell online,even on Extreme difficulty. Lacks headset use,and people barely use the Adlib commands,unless you get separated on accident. Uhuh.....
EisigerBiskuit
Feb 5th, 2006, 02:10 AM
Bad graphics relies within YOU!
the_dudefather
Feb 5th, 2006, 12:22 PM
The fact that everyone and their cat plays it is also a huge turn-off.
its not hip and underground enough for you to enjoy it eh? :P
but an MMORPG that a lot of people play is a plus, especialy when you can chat to gamers in real life about it. conversations tend to go like this tho:
me: do you play WoW?
them: yeah on the defias derver, got a lv60 druid and lv55 mage, what do you have?
me: im play on earthen ring, got a lv40 orc warrior and a lv60 human paladin...
them: WHAT DID YOU SAY??
(get beaten by paladin haters)
DamnthatDavid
Feb 5th, 2006, 01:08 PM
The graphics of WoW does not compare to the breathtaking visual standards of some of the other top MMORPG, true. Yet, in its own way, the graphics are superior.
Have you even looked at the fan screenshots?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/screenshots/screenshot.aspx?imageindex=1&Set=0
Just skip through some of them.
And if graphics are all you look for in a game, then you truely are decending into the mind of a faggoty fan boy. Graphics are important, but so is gameplay, enjoyability etc. etc.
I haven't played WoW (except once for an hour at a friend's house), but from what I understand, the game has departed so much from the original Warcraft storyline as to become completely gay. That and they have no single player mode, which I hate.
WoW is a living story, it constantly changes. Yet, you have all the key elements from the original RTS series. You can visit the lands that you commanded armies over, visit the ruins of some famous cities, and kill the baddies from games past.
The only think is gay is giving the Horde the Blood Elves so they might have a pretty race. Pretty races are only for fucking elementary school kids and LARPers.
ABSeNCe
Feb 5th, 2006, 02:58 PM
As for MMO,you never said RPG,so I'm saying RE:Outbreak.....ONLINE.
It's true that RPG isn't in the subject, but MMO is. So either way, you're retarded. Might as well strike up a convo about Doom 3, or Splinter Cell while you're at it
ArrowX
Feb 5th, 2006, 03:22 PM
HUXLEY.
http://www.huxleygame.com/
I Honestly can't wait for this game.
MetalMilitia
Feb 5th, 2006, 03:26 PM
Huxly is the only MMO im actually looking forward to trying out. Shame I'll need to spend about £500 on computer upgrades to get it runing well and looking nice.
bigtimecow
Feb 5th, 2006, 05:11 PM
I haven't played WoW (except once for an hour at a friend's house), but from what I understand, the game has departed so much from the original Warcraft storyline as to become completely gay. That and they have no single player mode, which I hate.
ya know what?
fuck you
ziggytrix
Feb 5th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Dark Ages costs way too much for what it is - an old, typical 2D MMO with bad graphics even for 1998 or whenever the hell it came out. Basically Ragnarok with shitty graphics.
I had a big rant about this until I realized you were talking about a different game.
There's this MMO called Dark Age of Camelot, which has amazing graphics, due to the fact that they've scrapped 2 graphics engines in the long time it's been out. In fact, the biggest graphics complaint I have with the game is unless you have a brand new video card, 2GB RAM, and a hoss processor, you have to turn every setting to minimal or log in with a client using one of the old graphics engines.
It's PvP, IMO, has the best endgame of any MMO I've played (the mid-level battlegrounds aren't bad either, but sadly aren't populated til about level 20, which can be a tough level to achieve not knowing anything about the game or having any help). PvP is based on picking one of three homeland factions when you start. Each faction has different races and classes to pick from, and a PvP-safe homeland to start in. After running through a series of tutorial quests you can jump right into a (absolutely desolate - due to how easy it is to get to about level 20) lowbie battleground. The battlegrounds will prepare you for the endgame, which is a frontier of three continents with a connecting island. Each continent has several keeps which you fight with the other realms for control, and relics that you can capture to give your entire realm a bonus.
As for cost, if you go to ebgames.com you can get the base game with the first three non-free expansions and the two free ones in a box for 20 bux. The monthly rate on it is 15 bucks like any other MMO if you don't pay for multiple months at a time, but it's old enough that there are some free euro servers (running a few patches out of date, but who cares) if you know where to look.
I've played WoW, Dark Age of Camelot, Anarchy Online (free version only - tho I'm considering upgrading to a paying account just to check it out), Guild Wars, and Ragnarok (for a week - lol), and honestly, DAoC has had the best PvP of any of MMO I've played.
Emu
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:03 PM
the fuck is everybody picking on me for >: i like single player modes. besides, it can be an MMORPG and have a single player too
Misdemonar
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM
No you can't, it makes hacking easier, That's one of the reasons you can't bring you're diablo 2 character into Battle.net. (Yes I know that isn't a MMO). Trainers I think, cannot commuincate online, so they have no way to change the char's stats, exp,gold, ect.
Emu
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:20 PM
Then keep the single player characters local and the multiplayer remote. Like...Diablo II.
Misdemonar
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:22 PM
Well, most pepole probaley wouldn't play it then and it'd be a waste of time and money and programming.EDIT: Also games like WoW, have avery team-based dungeons which require pepole to go with. And raids too for endgame.
executioneer
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:26 PM
i think the whole "required teamwork" bit is part of the reason why i don't enjoy mmorpgs very much :(
ziggytrix
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:48 PM
Single-player mode is easy. You just go to a non-PvP server and turn off all the chat channels.
The MM means Massively Multiplayer, so technically, Guild Wars and other small-scale multiplayer games are off-topic, and single player games are REALLY off-topic.
I've never heard of a MMO with a single-player mode. Emu, it sounds like your complaint is more with the concept of MMOs than specifically with WoW.
Emu
Feb 5th, 2006, 06:58 PM
Pretty much. I prefer to stick with a small group of people that I know. Carry on.
AChimp
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:05 PM
I THINK IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ANTI-SOCIAL >:
Emu
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:13 PM
I JUST LIKE HAVING ALL THE TREASURE FOR MYSELF >:
the_dudefather
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:20 PM
become a ninja then
ziggytrix
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:24 PM
Actually most MMOs have solo type classes. Stealthers or whatever. WoW did an exceedingly good job of allowing any class to be able to do things solo, while bringing something unique to a team. Try fighting an even level monster with a healer type character in any other MMO and let me know how it goes...
ArrowX
Feb 5th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Or you can play huxley. And shoot a dosen monsters in the face with a minigun. Then hop in your Clans APC and drive through hordes of monsters.
This game is giving me wet dreams :( :)
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/738/738457/vids_1.html
red8ge
Feb 5th, 2006, 10:34 PM
the kids at my school are so gay
the mmos they play are runescape, maple story, and some fucktard game called soldat(some 2d shooting game from what i can understand)and me and my friend are the only one's that have real mmo's
Marc Summers
Feb 5th, 2006, 10:51 PM
maple story is mediocre at best, the other two just make me eject bile
xbxDaniel
Feb 5th, 2006, 10:52 PM
When I first saw runescape, I thought it was some high school kid's first tech project or something.
ArrowX
Feb 5th, 2006, 10:59 PM
Soldat was fun about 2 years ago. Maple story started out promising. But it pretty much degraded into about 200 retards standing in the outskirts of towns selling stuff and lagging out the game.
Juttin
Feb 5th, 2006, 11:13 PM
As for MMO,you never said RPG,so I'm saying RE:Outbreak.....ONLINE.
It's true that RPG isn't in the subject, but MMO is. So either way, you're retarded. Might as well strike up a convo about Doom 3, or Splinter Cell while you're at it
Well,that game kinda is meant for online play,and it's multiplayer,and alot of people play it, so it's totally-fucking-justified >:
xbxDaniel
Feb 5th, 2006, 11:20 PM
I think the massive part isn't fufilled there. Splinter Cell online has like 4 people in one game at a time.
Chojin
Feb 5th, 2006, 11:20 PM
And if graphics are all you look for in a game, then you truely are decending into the mind of a faggoty fan boy. Graphics are important, but so is gameplay, enjoyability etc. etc.
You're looking for an excuse to dismiss me, which ironically saves you a 'faggoty fan boy' seat on the home team. I never said that an MMO having bad graphics makes it inherently bad. In a post about comparing MMOs, I DARED to compared their graphics as well. I'm really sorry if I hurt your feelings; Is there something else I should avoid talking about? I can probably dance around talking about the economy if that would help.
Chojin
Feb 5th, 2006, 11:29 PM
its not hip and underground enough for you to enjoy it eh? :P
but an MMORPG that a lot of people play is a plus, especialy when you can chat to gamers in real life about it. conversations tend to go like this tho:
me: do you play WoW?
them: yeah on the defias derver, got a lv60 druid and lv55 mage, what do you have?
me: im play on earthen ring, got a lv40 orc warrior and a lv60 human paladin...
them: WHAT DID YOU SAY??
(get beaten by paladin haters)
That sounds wonderful. That aside, Guild Wars is a perfect example of why quantity of players does not result in quality of gameplay.
Anyway I just find it distasteful when both Penny Arcade and SA can't bear to shut up about the game. Additionally, it's more or less a given that any overbearing dork has an account. It's not something I want to be a part of, like any other internet fad.
Emu
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:04 AM
I'm looking forward to NWN2, though that's not EXACTLY a MMORPG.
DamnthatDavid
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:20 AM
In a post about comparing MMOs, I DARED to compared their graphics as well. I'm really sorry if I hurt your feelings;
You didn't hurt my feelings sir. What you did was give me the impression that you care for only graphical capabilities.
I might of misread what your true point is/was/whatever. It still came off that you where judging only by graphics. You also seemed to be finding whatever reason you could not to give WoW a try. I want to try CoH, for I can not yet judge it to the other games I have played. (beta or otherwise) I have never been a drooling fanboy.
ABSeNCe
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:20 AM
As for MMO,you never said RPG,so I'm saying RE:Outbreak.....ONLINE.
It's true that RPG isn't in the subject, but MMO is. So either way, you're retarded. Might as well strike up a convo about Doom 3, or Splinter Cell while you're at it
Well,that game kinda is meant for online play,and it's multiplayer,and alot of people play it, so it's totally-fucking-justified >:
MMO = Massively Multiplayer Online. This means hundreds or thousands of players in one big world. RE: Outbreak allowed what? 4 people per game? 8 tops? It doesn't make a game MMO just because a lot of people play it. You obviously don't have the knowledge to function in this thread.
Juttin
Feb 6th, 2006, 11:38 AM
As for MMO,you never said RPG,so I'm saying RE:Outbreak.....ONLINE.
It's true that RPG isn't in the subject, but MMO is. So either way, you're retarded. Might as well strike up a convo about Doom 3, or Splinter Cell while you're at it
Well,that game kinda is meant for online play,and it's multiplayer,and alot of people play it, so it's totally-fucking-justified >:
MMO = Massively Multiplayer Online. This means hundreds or thousands of players in one big world. RE: Outbreak allowed what? 4 people per game? 8 tops? It doesn't make a game MMO just because a lot of people play it. You obviously don't have the knowledge to function in this thread.
Well,they're still in a lobby,and stuff....
Y'know what? Fuck you >:
Guitar Woman
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:08 PM
Graal Online is A Link to the Past, only online. You can customize your character from an almost limitless supply of faces, shields, swords, and bodies, and if you didn't like what the game had to offer for looks, you could just go and make your own sprites. When it was free, it was an almost criminally fun and rewarding social experience where only 25% of the people were PKing assholes, and could be played for hours on end.
But now Stefan has turned into a hitler-wannabe and started charging fees for accounts that can save progress, and has raped all of the worlds beyond recognition, rendering it unplayable.
I look back on the days of 1337 5k!11z that Delteria's theif class had to offer, and how much fun it was, and I cry. :(
EDIT: Era is still a playable server, but it's really hard to do anything because everyone has better guns than you :(
Emu
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:26 PM
graal :lol
Guitar Woman
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:45 PM
You know it was awesome :(
Emu
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:48 PM
i played it briefly around 2000-2001 and from what i remember it was a bunch of sprites ripped off of other, better games where you could run around and talk at people. it was basically a chatroom with graphics
Guitar Woman
Feb 6th, 2006, 12:51 PM
On some servers like Classic it was really plot-based and there were lots of quests to go on with people and crap, but since everyone else had already done everything in the game I had to go on all the quests by myself.
Delteria was the best >:
timrpgland
Feb 6th, 2006, 01:41 PM
I'll just post some nonsense on some of the ones I've played.
Ultima Online:I've played UO since 1998. Sure you start out frustrated but by the time you give it a chance you have a lot of reasons to play. It was my first MMORPG and the "newness" is probably what got me hooked at first but now that all this time and effort has been put into it, I just can't stop. UO provides customizability unlike any other MMORPG. It also does things differently than any other MMORPG. The skill system is unique and enjoyable instead of just leveling. The game now does have a "safe" facet which bugs me personally. I tend to do all my stuff on Fellucca. The fact that you can just be a profession (lumberjack, miner, blacksmith, bowyer, cook and so on) instead of your run of the mill "hero" type is pretty cool. The player run events are excellent.
Dark Ages:This is one I played since "DEOCH 11" :) I quit playing it but what I liked about it was the way the world was run. Player guards, player judges and so on. The community was excellent when it first started. Since then it has become overrun with morons.
Guild Wars: Been playing for a little less than a month now. It's pretty cool. I like the change of pace from regular MMORPGs since it really isn't one. The game is enjoyable so far.
Asheron's Call: Highly underrated. This game was awesome. Housing was available with the first expansion which added to the immersion. I only played on Dark Tide (think that was the name) the pvp server and if you thought UO was bad in terms of being slaughtered at any given point, this one was worse. I enjoyed that about it though. The fear kept it fun. The gameplay was more action oriented than anything out at the time which was excellent. You could actually dodge stuff and so on. I quit playing but have very fond memories of this one.
Asheron's Call 2: They really disappointed me here. They forgot what made the first one fun. It is now no longer in existence.
Rubies of Eventide: This one went under quick. I remember beta testing the original build. I actually liked that better than when they turned it into a standard MMORPG. Nothing great here.
DAoC: The RvR in this is the main grab and it is excellent. I haven't played since probably 2003 but really enjoyed my time in the game. The whole concept is pretty cool. I played a Hibernia and Midgard character. Good balance and a fun enviroment.
Meridian 59: The old school. Started it all. Never really got into the game because of the weird pay setup. They have since changed that and even upped the graphics a bit. If you want to get into a first person (daggerfall like) mmorpg, this is it.
Everquest: Played this for a while but was too into UO at the time. It consumed one of my friends which is pretty much why I despise the game but it did have a grand vision. Only WoW has surpassed the crazy fan base that this game had.
World of Warcraft: Quit playing this but it is a very good game. It doesn't really do anything special but it does a lot of stuff really well. Great execution.
Mimesis: Not really worth it. The game looks pretty good and I enjoyed the setting but the engine just sucked.
There: Like Second Life but I enjoy this one more. I have a lifetime account from beta testing it. The customizability is very cool.
Underlight: Very similar to Meridian 59 in it's setup but a sci fi type setting. Interesting but not very good.
Matrix Online: Unfortunately this one turned out to be really boring. I enjoyed the setting but didn't enjoy the game.
Shattered Galaxy: From the same creators of KotW and DA. This one was pretty interesting. Futuristic setting and the ship battles were pretty cool. Nothing that really kept me playing but it was a interesting beta test.
EQOA: EQ on the PS2. This actually was quite a bit different than EQ in its engine. The game was more action based. I enjoyed it til about level 30 then just quit playing. Fun while it lasted and better than FFXI
FFXI: The world was cool looking but the game itself was slow paced and pretty boring. The only real thing I liked about it was that you could try each job with one character.
That's all I can think of right now.
bigtimecow
Feb 6th, 2006, 03:37 PM
i loved and still love soldat
kahljorn
Feb 6th, 2006, 05:59 PM
I loved DAOC. I've been thinking of playing it again. I pretty much ha a few classes for every realm. ;(
Do any of you still play it?
EisigerBiskuit
Feb 6th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Earth & Beyond: Fuck you, EA.
ABSeNCe
Feb 6th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Well,they're still in a lobby,and stuff....
Y'know what? Fuck you >:
owned
Maverick Zero Unit
Feb 6th, 2006, 07:55 PM
FFXI:O - Wonderful graphics, cross platform, semi-interesting story, but takes FOREVER to level and just bout as long to get the equipment to meet your level. The best part, AF gear. The AF gear made you look like the original character from an earlier FF game. EX: Red Mages or RDM, had red armor and a pimp hat. Dragoons or DRG had full plate armor and thier helmets were shaped like dragon heads.
ABSeNCe
Feb 6th, 2006, 10:23 PM
How come nobody else has mentioned APB?
EisigerBiskuit
Feb 7th, 2006, 01:11 AM
Huh?
GADZOOKS
Feb 7th, 2006, 03:08 AM
All Points Bulletin
timrpgland
Feb 7th, 2006, 01:01 PM
How come nobody else has mentioned APB?
cause supposedly it isn't going to come out til 2007 right?
ABSeNCe
Feb 7th, 2006, 02:34 PM
Yea, but a lot of people are complaining about MMO's being the same and shit. Well, this one's going to be completely different.
Matt Harty
Feb 7th, 2006, 02:54 PM
That's what they ALL claim. :rolleyes
Maverick Zero Unit
Feb 7th, 2006, 11:19 PM
Graal Online is A Link to the Past, only online.
I forgot bout that game. It rocked so much, thats where my s/n came from. But those bastards globally banned my account after it got hacked. Before that though, I was an unkknown oldbie.
ABSeNCe
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:22 AM
That's what they ALL claim. :rolleyes
It's the first of its kind. It literally going to be nothing like any MMO you've ever played. If you haven't heard about it, it's basically MMO GTA.
Chojin
Feb 8th, 2006, 05:31 AM
spammer
Guitar Woman
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Graal Online is A Link to the Past, only online.
I forgot bout that game. It rocked so much, thats where my s/n came from. But those bastards globally banned my account after it got hacked. Before that though, I was an unkknown oldbie.
My account got banned from my favorite server because someone used a trainer on it :tear
EisigerBiskuit
Feb 8th, 2006, 12:31 PM
For some reason, APB's video had me leaving... wait, that was just a promo video right?
Vexation
Feb 8th, 2006, 04:40 PM
Huxley looks better the APB
Supafly345
Feb 11th, 2006, 10:40 AM
I play Maple Story, its simple and fun. But not nearly as good as the leading brand.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/supafly345/posts/MaxAssaulter.jpg
I know you don't know what this picture means, but its impressive I assure you.
Chojin
Feb 15th, 2006, 02:39 PM
all thpost of this thread have manipulated me so far that i have even started playing it AND LIKE IT.
And i blame all of you! >:
I rest my case.
Chojin
May 29th, 2006, 02:59 PM
Now that I am no longer under NDA for Auto Assault, here is my review!
It sucks.
Misdemonar
May 29th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Yeah I played it too, it lagged to much,
Girl Drink Drunk
May 29th, 2006, 03:05 PM
Thanks for finally putting these MMOs into just one thread. I've got nothing against them, but im sick of 6 MMO threads bumping other threads downwards (especially mine).
Chojin
May 29th, 2006, 09:54 PM
EXTENDED AUTO ASSAULT REVIEW!
Yeah, at least in the Beta, you'd rubberband all over the fucking place, which is bananas in a racing game. Your car didn't follow any of your 'Earth physics' which you hold so dear, and you had to lock on to targets to attack. So basically, it is an MMO where the biggest genre-specific problem is triple-circled and underlined with bright pink hiliter.
You can't leave your vehicle outside of town and you can't get into the vehicle while in town. When running, your character looks hilarious.
I only played it for one day in beta as I was not being paid. Which it definitely would have taken to have me play it at anything more frequent than a bi-annual stint.
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