Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

[xbxDaniel]

It's coming out in March last I heard. I put down my money to get it today, and I can't wait to get ahold of this game. I've been playing since Redguard and just recently got a rom for Arena. I'm asking for some opinions about what you are looking forward to; or if you hate the game, what they should do to fix it.

[Comrade Rocket]

I was reading some about this i hear they changed everything about Marrowind. Some of the things that i liked were...

-Horses for travel
-huge open plains. I like this better because i didnt like the huge mushrooms and unrealistic areas.
-A button for blocking. I always hated that blocking was based off of skill.
-NPC's are more realistic. They move around town. they have to shop, sleep, talk to friends and bascially live. Also, interaction with the characters is much more different.

its gonna rock and the screen shots blow my mind. To bad i have to wait till hell freezes over to buy a xbox 360.

Maybe my computer will run it

[Supafly345]

Well the horses for travel doesn't make a real HUGE differance as the instant teleport to everyplace you have already been to with their quick travel option. Plus the nature and trees and shit is all placed and arranged by the game to look random but natural; meaning they didn't waste money having an artist place every single bush and patch of grass in the entire gigantic world.

[Misdemonar]

http://morrowind.com/downloads/downloads_arena-redirect.htm

[Comrade Rocket]

I dunno, i personally like the addition of horses. the world is gonna look so beautiful that i think i would rather ride around on a horse then instantly teleport past it.

[xbxDaniel]

I've heard the AI is supposed to blow my mind.

[adept_ninja]

yeah if you watched the video on this you go into a ladies shop and she gets angry at her dog cause it keeps barking so she sets it on fire

[Supafly345]

Yeah, its pretty much going to be the greatest game ever made.

[MetalMilitia]

I would like to be looking forward to this game, I really would. But im going to bet the engine is far less robust than they make out. Much like the engine used by Deus Ex 2 and Thief 3 - while they look ok from a distance, apon closer inspection everything is a bit... crap.

I also heard rumors that major lighting changes had to be made as performace was suffering too much. These are just rumors though.

[Zomboid]

Quit stealin' my buzz, man. We all wanna look forward to this game and you're wrecking it >:

[Supafly345]

If you liked the morrowind engine, this is suppposed to be based off that. Using the logic that "of it looks amazing it must be crap" is retarded, this is betheseda we are talking about.

Use your head dipshit, all you have to do is watch one of the videos. Preformance will be smooth on the 360, but not on computers for a couple years.

[EisigerBiskuit]

One, Seadogs. What happened? :(

Two, this is going to be a must try. What's the minimum spec?

[The Damp Moose]

Bethesda hasn't released them yet. They keep changing shit so if they release any requirements they'll be changed by the time the game actually comes out.

So shoot for pretty high-end stuff, I guess.

[EisigerBiskuit]

If it's running well on the 360 it must not be far off from what I have.

[The Damp Moose]

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=186541


Pretty decent FAQ. Its long a hell but is chocked full of information.

[MetalMilitia]

If you liked the morrowind engine, this is suppposed to be based off that. Using the logic that "of it looks amazing it must be crap" is retarded, this is betheseda we are talking about.

Use your head dipshit, all you have to do is watch one of the videos. Preformance will be smooth on the 360, but not on computers for a couple years.

I have seen all of the videos and although they do look nice, something seems a bit off. Im not sure how to explain it but after you have watched a few thousand tech preview videos you get pretty good at reading betwen the lines. I could be wrong but im willing to bet they are hyping this product up alot at the moment and not all of their features are as great as they make out.

As for this running ok on 360s but not current PCs thats BS. A Radeon 1900XTX has 48pixel pipelines* (same as 360) and most probably a higher clock. Not to mention bieng able to pair it with a Crossfire mastercard and motherboard. The 360's gay PowerPC CPU would most likely be beaten by high end AMD FX or X2.

*Not that this matters much as ATI prefer to use a large number of shader units and less pipelines as part of their unified shader architecture IIRC

Anyway im sure it'll be an ok game but im waiting to try it before I decide whether its worth buying.

[Supafly345]

Something's a bit off that you can't explain? That almost always means that a person wants to find something wrong with the game, but can't. And when I say it will run better on the 360, I mean compared to moderately priced PC's that are coming out right now (under 1000$). If you spend the money for high end of course it would be better. And its only PC and Playstation fanboys who think that the 360 will be a tragic failure. You haven't got the slightest idea, since all you are saying is speculation.

You are full of shit and have no idea why this game would be bad.

[executioneer]

on a related note, i hope they don't fuck up fallout 3 >:

[Chojin]

They really can't do any worse than Brotherhood of Steel, so I remain optimistic.

I love this company and they're situated about an hour from where I live. :<

[executioneer]

YEAH SO

[The Damp Moose]

I love this company and they're situated about an hour from where I live. :<

Me too. Except more like 30 minutes for me.

And this game is going to rock the shit out of my horrible pc.

I thought Morrowind was great (even though it was on the Xbox), and all of the problems I had with it are supposed to be solved with Oblivion.

Plus this time I'll be able to get mods(provided they're not too large....dial up sucks a whole bunch).

[xbxDaniel]

If you buy the PC version they're including the construction kit, and have revamped the magic system so you can create all kinds of your own spells. Bethesda is so friendly towards the modders.

[Dr. Boogie]

I hope they fixed the item enchantment process. My friend and I cheated and boosted our character's intelligence into the triple digits, and we were still failing almost all the time trying to enchant some objects.

[Supafly345]

You weren't supposed to actually enchant things yourself, the enchant skill was to recharge the magic in items. That's why enchanters existed.

[Dr. Boogie]

All the more reason to fix it.

Also, it would be nice if they included merchants that could afford to buy high-end stuff from you. The modders eventually corrected this oversight with Morrowind, but it would be nice if it were like that out of the box.

[xbxDaniel]

The entire magic system is supposed to be revamped.

[executioneer]

You weren't supposed to actually enchant things yourself, the enchant skill was to recharge the magic in items. That's why enchanters existed.

what are you talking about, enchanters are for if you've got too much money and don't want to save before doing it yourself :/

[Supafly345]

Well if you sold to the mudcrab (existed without a mod) you would always have too much money by selling the equipment that came off golden saints. HELLLOO?

[executioneer]

what about paying for training with it

[Chojin]

Well if you sold to the mudcrab (existed without a mod) you would always have too much money by selling the equipment that came off golden saints. HELLLOO?
i could never find that fucking guy, so i'd sell to the little thing in the top of the orc house. the game got way less fun for me after I realized money was so abundant if you kill a guard in islandlandthing and sell their obsidian maces and armor to that dude.

[Supafly345]

Its very hard to go through the game without killing him, I had to develope a paranoia about not killing any mudcrabs and talking to every one of them in order to do it.

I liked not having to worry about money =/

[Dr. Boogie]

And I liked not having to worry about death after finding that regenerating robe. I put it on, threw on some heavy armor, antagonized a few of those giant jellyfish and went out to lunch, and when I came back, fully charged heavy armor stat.

[Zomboid]

I completely forgot about fallout 3 but I'm really hoping they do a good job with it too :( . Loved fallout 1 and 2 though so I kinda hope they don't change much.

[executioneer]

what, you mean apart from changing from an isometric view turn-based game to a 3d real-time game?

[MetalMilitia]

Something's a bit off that you can't explain? That almost always means that a person wants to find something wrong with the game, but can't. And when I say it will run better on the 360, I mean compared to moderately priced PC's that are coming out right now (under 1000$). If you spend the money for high end of course it would be better. And its only PC and Playstation fanboys who think that the 360 will be a tragic failure. You haven't got the slightest idea, since all you are saying is speculation.

You are full of shit and have no idea why this game would be bad.

Me thinking the game will be a bit rubbish is the same as you thinking it will be a bit good.
Niether of us have played it and I would imagine you have seen all of the trailers which I have seen. I dont want to sound pedantic but parts like the dogs shitty animations and various other wierd things I noticed made me think in such a massive game world its going to have a whole bunch of bugs kicking about.
Im not looking for reasons to hate the game im just not going to blindly accept developers hype as fact.

Also I dont think the 360 is a failure, its a really nice piece of kit and will most probably come out ontop of the PS3 due to it bieng released so much earlier and bieng technologically equal.

[Zomboid]

what, you mean apart from changing from an isometric view turn-based game to a 3d real-time game?

Oh fuck :( . To be honest though, if it used the same engine as oblivion, it would probably still be pretty cool.

[Chojin]

Also I dont think the 360 is a failure, its a really nice piece of kit and will most probably come out ontop of the PS3 due to it bieng released so much earlier and bieng technologically equal.
Plus live, which I think is gonna be the major winning factor. The system is just marketed right in so many ways and is so god damn convenient on top of it :<

and willie, fallout 3 is 3d but it's still locked into isometric. and by default it's still turn based ;<

[Supafly345]

Me thinking the game will be a bit rubbish is the same as you thinking it will be a bit good. Everything you said satisfied me but this. Because it will take a crosseyed kick in the nuts not to think it will be good. What is it that makes it look so bad? Its impressive "biggest game ever made" size? The hard to match AI? The overwhelming supply of semin this game is producing from the swollen cocks of game critics and fans alike?

A dog bouncing around like how videogames usually animate dogs bouncing around is enough to call the game shit? Every game of that scope has tons of bugs, like morrowind had. But despite the bugs morrowind still became GOTY. And they decided to push the game date back those few more months to fine tune it, adding thousands of man-hours into the game, each hour making it better.

[MetalMilitia]

The hard to match AI?

I wont get into the quoting everything game but I would like to pick you up on this.

Most new games promise ground breaking AI but you usually don't get the full picture of it until you actually try it. FEAR is one of the only games which has really impressed me with some genuinly new and interesting AI recently.

Anyway, im slighty tipsy right now so I will not try and aticulate my distrust for AI hype any further.

[executioneer]

and willie, fallout 3 is 3d but it's still locked into isometric. and by default it's still turn based ;<

oh :eek

[xbxDaniel]

Anyway, im slighty tipsy right now so I will not try and aticulate my distrust for AI hype any further.

I've been disappointed before too. This seems like it's going to work out though. In one of the dev. diaries one of them commented about an orc who killed him and then proceeded to loot the corpse while muttering curses about the character. I'm not saying that is what it'll be like, but the AI will not be mindless or idiotic. The part I'm most worried about is dialogue, because I've been unable to find anything that really describes how it works in the game.

Overall this game should be solid, but MM is right about actually playing the game. We haven't played it yet, so we don't know what it's like yet.

[Supafly345]

Is this just pessemism or denile of the inevitable.

[The Damp Moose]

I find it really hard to believe that this game will dissapoint anyone.

Morrowind was a fantastic game, and it still kicks a lot of current games' asses.

Bethesda would have to seriously drop the ball with this game to make it worse than Morrowind.

And as far as the whole dog animation sucking, that video was from a loong time ago in the development. A lot of stuff in those 6 videos has changed dramatically.


But then again I have a giant Oblivion boner, so my views are probably skewed.




EDIT:

I think that they've released the system requirements, but I can't seem to find them. On the forums the only thing that I found was:

http://www.srtest.com/bonus/t/sysinfo_intro.tmpl?PHPSESSID=7d993bbd2d8a5467806b6 d7e88ec3e2e&registration_option_id=2574&submit2.x=45&submit2.y=30&submit2=Go


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I'm not sure if this is official or what.




EDIT...AGAIN:

Because I'm lazy I didn't think to do a google search. This was the results from the first link:

The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion System Requirements

Recommended:

* 3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 1 GB System RAM
* ATI X800 series, Nvidia GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card

Minimum System Requirements:

* Windows XP
* 512MB System RAM
* 2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
* 128MB Direct3D compatible video card
* and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;
* 8x DVD-ROM drive
* 4.6 GB free hard disk space
* DirectX 9.0c (included)
* DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
* Keyboard, Mouse

Supported Video Card Chipsets:

* ATI X1900 series
* ATI X1800 series
* ATI X1600 series
* ATI X1300 series
* ATI X850 series
* ATI x800 series
* ATI x700 series
* ATI x600 series
* ATI Radeon 9800 series
* ATI Radeon 9700 series
* ATI Radeon 9600 series
* ATI Radeon 9500 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6600 series
* NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series
* NVIDIA GeForce FX series

[Zomboid]

hahaha holy fuck. My computer is so outdated compared to that it's not even funny.

[timrpgland]

I can't wait to play Oblivion. I have faith that it will be good from all I've seen and heard about it. I haven't been disappointed by the series yet.

My PC should be able to run it but I'm probably going to want to upgrade my RAM for good measure.

[MetalMilitia]

Is this just pessemism or denile of the inevitable.

Think what you want but 9 out of 10 games promise groundbreaking AI and rarely deliver. Im just waiting till the game has some real non-biased reviews before I start preeching the wonders of an unreleased game's AI.

[executioneer]

yeah looks like i'm gonna need a new processor and graphics card at LEAST :(

[The Damp Moose]

This game will totally be worth the $200 dollars I'm going to need to spend to upgrade my computer.

I hope. :(

[executioneer]

i probably need to upgrade those so i can run Morrowind better too :lol

[Dr. Boogie]

What's the AMD equivalent of an Intel Pentium 4 3.0 ghz?

[ArrowX]

around a Athalon37000 to an FX-60 pretty much any Socket 939 should work.

[Supafly345]

Think what you want but 9 out of 10 games promise groundbreaking AI and rarely deliver. Im just waiting till the game has some real non-biased reviews before I start preeching the wonders of an unreleased game's AI.Wow, you must be a video game connoseur to hate such a reputable game! Saying that it will suck makes you look like you can see something that the rest of the world, including game reviewers that have played samples of the game, can't see! You must be really smart!

[cjadthenord]

Wow, when I signed up for this forum, I had no idea it has a following for the two most beloved games I've ever played. Morrowind, and the soon to be best game ever (in my own, honest oppinion fuckthosewhodisagreecommiebastards) Oblivion.

I'm getting this on PC. I played Morrowind on the Xbox when it first came out, and eventually switched to PC. Not only did it look fantastic, but I love the amazing mods made for it (sailable boat mods are the coolest things ever), and I grew addicted to the Construction Set. Because it will be incredibally cheap for me to upgrade, the 360 is not even an option. It just can't compare, in my eyes, how amazing this game will be on PC.

[Ninjavenom]

Haha, fuck you guys, i can totally play this 8)

[MetalMilitia]

Think what you want but 9 out of 10 games promise groundbreaking AI and rarely deliver. Im just waiting till the game has some real non-biased reviews before I start preeching the wonders of an unreleased game's AI.Wow, you must be a video game connoseur to hate such a reputable game! Saying that it will suck makes you look like you can see something that the rest of the world, including game reviewers that have played samples of the game, can't see! You must be really smart!

Jesus Christ quit acting like such a child. I have not said this game will suck, im just saying that im going to wait till I see some full reviews from reputable sources or get to try the game myself before I start furiously masturbating over it.
As I have said a few times it's entierly possible that it'll be a good game but im just not totally sold on it yet.
I know when you are looing forward to a game its hard to understand that other people may not be looking forward to it as much, but there is no need to resort to cheap sarcastic comments just because someone does not share your opinion, as it is afterall only an opinion on an unreleased and incomplete game.

[Supafly345]

Sorry, I don't know anything about computers! I'll just assume you are right because you have seen so many previews and can read between the lines! Didn't you hate LOTR? Boy I sure did how can anybody watch that shit.

[Dr. Boogie]

I hope it doesn't have that problem that Morrowind had, wherein the game would get slower and slower the longer you played.

[xbxDaniel]

I played morrowind on xbox and PC, and the xbox really wasn't nearly as good as the PC version. The construction kit was a huge plus, and the interface was much easier. The xbox would run smooth the entire time I played it though, and I didn't notice anything other than the regular lag I would get for playing it on my crappy PC.

[The Damp Moose]

How user-friendly was the CS?

I heard that Oblivion's is going to be quite a bit easier to get into, AND be a lot more powerful.

I'm not looking forward to forking over a hundred or so bucks to play this game, though.

[MLE]

why the fuck are you back?

[Immortal Goat]

Does anyone know if the XBox 360 version will have the construction set? I would think it would be possible this time around, with the new Live community.

[ArrowX]

the more your giant attributes like SPeed and agility the more the Xbox version crapped out. I remember running faster than the xbox could process the terrain. I fell through one of the Vivec Cantons once

[executioneer]

falling thru shit was not an xbox exclusive, i used to always fall thru the stairs in the balmora mage guild when i was trying to go downstairs

[Ninjavenom]

On my most recent character, i somehow pissed off all the guards in Vivec, so i sold their shit every time i killed them. That crab ended up making me like 3 million gold, and that wasn't even enough to buy back all the daedric and Her Hands' shit i sold him o .o. I ended up using the money to buy Summon Golden Saint, then soultrapping like fifteen of them. I used them to create a shield that bound a Dremora Lord and an armor that bound a Frost Atronach on equip. That was hell of fun times, especially for a battlemage :O