V for Vendetta

[mburbank]

MOVIE FORUM!!

Yeah, yeah, except here's my question. This is a very political story if it sticks even slightly to the comic book it's adapted from. The comic was a reaction to the Thatcher administration, but if anything it's issues are more thorny today than they were then.

For those of you not familiar, the protagonist of the story (it would be pushing it to call him the hero) is a terrorist, and the British government he's fighting is facist.

Do you think there will be any sort of political holler? Will R's latch onto it as an easy target, hollywood siding with terrorists, encouraging terrorism? Will Dems try to outflank the R's on the right by denouncing it first? (My bet is Hillary could go for that, it's just bout her speed as an issue)

Or will it be ignored?

Or is it a serious issue? Is it irresponsible of Hollywood to relaese a movie where the 'hero'

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Blows up parliament and a British subway?

[Guitar Woman]

Will R's latch onto it as an easy target, hollywood siding with terrorists, encouraging terrorism?
Of course they will, they're Republicans. :rolleyes

[Immortal Goat]

I'm glad someone brought this up in the politics forum.

Honestly, I don't think anything's going to happen. The threat that this movie presents is much harder to vilify than the easily targeted "homosexual agenda" found in Brokeback Mountain.

The Rs have too much on their plate right now to really worry about another Liberal Hollywood movie, even if it does go squarely against everything they stand for.

[Geggy]

I thought it was interesting the GOP's called it the most dangerous movie of the year. That only made me want to see it even more.

[ItalianStereotype]

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[The One and Only...]

Honestly, I don't think anything's going to happen. The threat that this movie presents is much harder to vilify than the easily targeted "homosexual agenda" found in Brokeback Mountain.

I think it's a lot easier to target a film that glorifies a man who slaughters civilians and brainwashes his love than it is to target Brokeback.

Mark my words, if this film is anything like the comic, it will make a splash.

My fear is that this film will give anarchism an even worse name. V is an anarchist, if you weren't aware.

[Immortal Goat]

No I wasn't aware that on page 41 of the book, when V is talking to the statur of Justice that he says that he has a new lover, and "Her name is Anarchy, and she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did!"

Thanks for fucking enlightening me, OAO. Where would I be without you?

[The One and Only...]

Actually, that was directed in general.

[ScruU2wice]

Is it a "In a future where emotions are forbidden..." type story?


I really don't want to see it if it's like that.

[Immortal Goat]

Emotions aren't forbidden. BUT, a highly right-wing fascist government records everything you do, allowing no differing opinions. They specifically targeted (in the early stages) homosexuals, black people, and Jews. Now, it's pretty much Hitler's wet dream, aside from the hair thing. White, straight people as far as the eye can see.

EDIT: Also, if it's anything like the book, entertainment has been degraded into only a few catagories. Either it is probaganda, or designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator of society, which, as luck would have it, has become all of society.

[ScruU2wice]

does V turn out to be a homosexual, black, anarchist, Jew? because that would make it a little different from Equilibrium, 1984 and Farenheit 491

[Immortal Goat]

We never see who V is. That way, it is left open for debate. Also, finding out who V is would take something away from the character.

I'm going to stop before I tell too much. If you really want me to go into spoiler theater, then PM me about it. Otherwise, watch the movie, but more importantly, read the book. You can get it in paperback or hardback from any Barnes & Noble, and if they don't have it in stock, they'll order it. Trust me, you won't regret reading it.

[Big Papa Goat]

I think this movie might make a bit less of a splash than Brokeback Mountain because no one is going to care about a teenage anarchist wet dream about a flamboyantly gay terrorist fighting against an unrealistic, whiny image of the british government. Because it's ridiculous.

also please don't cite any pages from the comic book telling me about how I'm wrong

No I wasn't aware that on page 41 of the book, when V is talking to the statur of Justice that he says that he has a new lover, and "Her name is Anarchy, and she has taught me more as a mistress than you ever did!"

Thanks for fucking enlightening me, OAO. Where would I be without you?

because that's an outrageously faggish thing to do

[ArrowX]

Spoiler

V is Agens Smith :O

[Immortal Goat]

I was simply pointing out that it is rediculous to point out something to someone that obviously doesn't need pointed out. You are entitled to your opinion of the story. I disagree with you, but you are entitiled.

[Spectre X]

does V turn out to be a homosexual, black, anarchist, Jew? because that would make it a little different from Equilibrium, 1984 and Farenheit 491

They also persecuted people with left-wing tendencies and pretty much anyone who didn't agree with their policies, so V could be all of those things at the same time.

And V is pretty much completely insane.

[Geggy]

ooh ooh i want to see this movie

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don't really remember. I remember reading it during my morning commute to work and I usually read boston.com, reuters and msnbc so it was definitely one of those websites.

[Spectre X]

Honestly, I don't think anything's going to happen. The threat that this movie presents is much harder to vilify than the easily targeted "homosexual agenda" found in Brokeback Mountain.

I think it's a lot easier to target a film that glorifies a man who slaughters civilians and brainwashes his love than it is to target Brokeback.

Mark my words, if this film is anything like the comic, it will make a splash.

My fear is that this film will give anarchism an even worse name. V is an anarchist, if you weren't aware.

Also, V for Vendetta makes anarchism actually look pretty rad.

Unlike you.

[Zebra 3]

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/4703/vposter4sd.jpg

[Emu]

ooh ooh i want to see this movie

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don't really remember. I remember reading it during my morning commute to work and I usually read boston.com, reuters and msnbc so it was definitely one of those websites.

I found this: http://g24.at/Article497.html

[VinceZeb]

Buy the graphic novel and don't watch the movie. You won't regret it.

[Spectre X]

Hush, Vince. You're not allowed to like good things.

[Emu]

Buy the graphic novel and don't watch the movie. You won't regret it.

Now I will. >:

[mburbank]

Vinth likes a hero who's a terrorist!

Vinth ith pro Terroritht!

Go away. We have a new looney, and HE'S a real SOLDIER!

[KevinTheOmnivore]

That wasn't even quote worthy Vince. :(

[VinceZeb]

Hush, Vince. You're not allowed to like good things.

Like your mother's vag?

[Immortal Goat]

And people say intelligent debate is a dead art.

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Hush, Vince. You're not allowed to like good things.

Like your mother's vag?

Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!

[Immortal Goat]

Oh, and I know this has nothing to do with the political impact of the movie, I thought someone might get a kick out of this:

http://myspace-053.vo.llnwd.net/00575/35/06/575196053_l.jpg

In case you are wondering, yes, it's me in the "V" getup at the movie's premier. I thought it would be fun to go in costume. And you know what? It was.

[Spectre X]

Hush, Vince. You're not allowed to like good things.

Like your mother's vag?

Yes, you're not allowed to like that because she is married to my father.

Christ, Vince, you can do better than this, surely?

[mburbank]

Don't do better. Just go away. Watching you ditz around here is like watching Sylvester Stalone trying to make another sad comeback. It's just pathetic and I hate feeling sorry for you.

Again, the new Resident Looney boy put his balls where his mouth was and joined the military. The only thing you shoot off is your mouth, which is a shadow of it's former self. Take your unnamed feignting disease and stick it up your imaginary submarine, or if you prefer, your 'mothers vag'. Unless your roomate threw that away too.

[VinceZeb]

Don't do better. Just go away. Watching you ditz around here is like watching Sylvester Stalone trying to make another sad comeback. It's just pathetic and I hate feeling sorry for you.

Again, the new Resident Looney boy put his balls where his mouth was and joined the military. The only thing you shoot off is your mouth, which is a shadow of it's former self. Take your unnamed feignting disease and stick it up your imaginary submarine, or if you prefer, your 'mothers vag'. Unless your roomate threw that away too.

Max, you must have one unbelievably shallow and hollow life if you hold this much resentment for me. Do please get over it, and get over yourself.

[ziggytrix]

"The website you have requested has been cancelled."

[mburbank]

There wath a time loved you, Vinth. But you thoiled it. THOILED!!

[VinceZeb]

There wath a time loved you, Vinth. But you thoiled it. THOILED!!

I'm having my universal translator calibrated at the moment, so you will have to walk me through why this statement 1) makes sense or 2) is funny.

[mburbank]

Universal translator = Sci Fi Weiner.

But okay, what the hell.

Here's how it makes sense: I used to be bothered to pa major attention to you because you were here all the time and you did a lot of thing with writing that interested me. You were bombastic, bizarre, an almost pathalogical liar, and you wrote sentences that were to trainwrecks like solar flares are to disposable lighters. Then you simply vanished (coincidentally right after bragging, boasting, daring and then failing to show up for a face to face with Sspad.) It was disapointing, and not just to me. You were enormously entertaining and many people here missed you. Now you show up once every few months, fire off a sentence or to that aren't anything like what we enjoyed about you, give no news, and don't follow up. It's boring, and for new people you don't even register a being here at all, so what's the point? You're bound to say you don't care, and so I ask, why bother at all?

Here's how it's funny: Comparing the way in which I (and others here) miss you to being jilted by a homosexual lover is funny for a number of reasons. One, it's SO much more extreme than actual level of interest involved. Two, it mocks your self often self described ladies man status.

This post was way more than an Ex of mine desreves, but my therapist says I need clothure.

[VinceZeb]

Universal translator = Sci Fi Weiner.

But okay, what the hell.

Here's how it makes sense: I used to be bothered to pa major attention to you because you were here all the time and you did a lot of thing with writing that interested me. You were bombastic, bizarre, an almost pathalogical liar, and you wrote sentences that were to trainwrecks like solar flares are to disposable lighters. Then you simply vanished (coincidentally right after bragging, boasting, daring and then failing to show up for a face to face with Sspad.) It was disapointing, and not just to me. You were enormously entertaining and many people here missed you. Now you show up once every few months, fire off a sentence or to that aren't anything like what we enjoyed about you, give no news, and don't follow up. It's boring, and for new people you don't even register a being here at all, so what's the point? You're bound to say you don't care, and so I ask, why bother at all?

Here's how it's funny: Comparing the way in which I (and others here) miss you to being jilted by a homosexual lover is funny for a number of reasons. One, it's SO much more extreme than actual level of interest involved. Two, it mocks your self often self described ladies man status.

This post was way more than an Ex of mine desreves, but my therapist says I need clothure.

*YAWN*

[mburbank]

The website you have requested has been cancelled.

[VinceZeb]

The website you have requested has been cancelled.

...And that's supposed to mean?

[mburbank]

YAWN