OBLIVION: MMORPG REHAB

[Supafly345]

I'm getting it, and so should you.

[EisigerBiskuit]

Is it $60, or is it coming out on PC too?

[timrpgland]

I preordered the collector's edition already. I know my store won't be getting it til the 21st (Tuesday) which I think is the actual official release. It ships on Monday but good luck getting it Monday. I'm sure it's possible some places.

Oh and yea it's going to be $60 for the normal game I believe for PC as well as XBOX360

[xbxDaniel]

My thread of this died, as well as the one before it.

http://www.i-mockery.net/viewtopic.php?t=21090 :tear

I still can't wait for this game.

[Ninjavenom]

Preordered special edition also, planning on checking for it monday night, but am likely getting it on tuesday. I am popping a massive boner as we speak.

[Supafly345]

I read monday on their website, so that's when I thought it came out.

[xbxDaniel]

Anybody else checking out the countdown videos? Or am I the only guy with that much free time on a friday night?

[timrpgland]

yeah I've been watching the countdown videos on IGN each day they come out at work. The 4 days left was just scenery I want more gameplay vids!

[DamnthatDavid]

I didn't know you had a 360 Adam.

Oh, and can I borrow my game of Morrowwind back?
Or did I give that to you? I have no clue anymore. :(

[camacazio]

Woah hey I still want to borrow that from him!

[Supafly345]

I can't find a 360, but I am buying it with the game when I can find one.

You can have your game back. Camacazio, I'll just send you the ISO files for the PC version (which is easier to play).

[Ninjavenom]

Faster, too.

[xbxDaniel]

The guys at EB called me today and said that it's possible that I'll get my game tomorrow. They're probably lying though.

[DamnthatDavid]

offer them sex with your mom/sister/girlfriend. That should send them into overload, and while they twitch on the floor, take the copy from the back room.

[EisigerBiskuit]

You know women work at those places too :eek

[Marc Summers]

His statement still applies...

[xbxDaniel]

I'm going to go eight miles out of my way this evening to see if they have it for me. I'm going to be pissed when they don't.

[timrpgland]

if anyone is lucky enough to get this tonight let us know so I can instantly be jealous.

[Fathom Zero]

I wonder how many people called in sick, not as much for Halo 2, but if my computer wasn't a POS, I would.

[Ninjavenom]

IT'S FUCKING AWESOME

[xbxDaniel]

Hell yeah it is.

[EisigerBiskuit]

Fuck you guys, I have to pick it up tomorrow.

[xbxDaniel]

I was supposed to get it today, but the guys did get it in early. And it's all thanks to DamnThatDavid's advice, and my slutty sisters. God Bless America.

[timrpgland]

I got it yesterday and was able to get 9 hours in. It does kick a lot of ass even on my shitty machine.... now I'm at work..... at this moment my life is sucky......

[adept_ninja]

This game is so awesome; words cannot describe it. I stayed home today to play it and it was worth it. I got this bitching enchanted saber that drains 15 health with each hit.

[Supafly345]

So is it worth it on PC? Because I had to wait until saturday to get a 360 so I am waiting to get the game until then. This is a brand new computer with no 3D processor, so it should run ok right?

[xbxDaniel]

I've heard that Oblivion is really friendly to PC users. I've actually had some disc reading problems with my 360. :(

[Supafly345]

Still, no 3D processor.

[Zomboid]

Just get it for 360 ya cunt.

[timrpgland]

You'll need a 3D card (shows a list of supported chip sets on the box) to play it on the PC.

Got to level 10 last night and have 5k saved up (legitimate). Been messing with the Arena and Fighter's Guild mostly.

[Ninjavenom]

Did anyone set conjuration as one of their majors? The summons seen a lot more powerful now. I got Summon Scamp last night, and he's way improved. The first thing he did was flying knee a nord and his dog into the wall behind them :O

[timrpgland]

One thing I think is a little strange is that my Nord character has a all blue body but a white guy's face!

My character is a Warrior basically with Resotration, Sneak and Marksman as his other majors.

[ArrowX]

Kicking animals down Hills is infinateley entertaining.

[Chojin]

This game is pretty neat. Just a stereotypical AD&D nerdfest, but a good one.

I've only been to one city so far, but it seemed really claustrophobic. I really hope the other cities aren't like that. I loved Balmora but srsly that first city felt like i was playing Wolfenstein ;<

Oh and I like how they tease your thieving tendencies by letting you nab all sorts of neat shit and then spank you by not letting you sell it anywhere ;< I have like have a grand of shit that people won't accept from me ;<

[Ninjavenom]

Apparently someone in the thieves' guild will buy stolen shit. Also, the guy who runs the Copious Coinpurse will buy certain stolen items. Outside of stealing the best ways to make money are to make bullshit potions with alchemy and to join a faction. Any food you steal can be used to make restore fatigue potions, which sell for up to 5 gold each on average. Just stack 'em and liquidate :O

[Chojin]

Am I the only person who thinks the new persuasion system is idiotic

[Ninjavenom]

You're probably using it wrong. The old one was worse because it was completely pointless. If someone's disposition dropped to 0, they didn't give a shit, but in this one, just about anyone will straight up attack you if you drop them to 0. Now speechcraft takes a little skill to do.

[Supafly345]

Can't you make a person feel something other than just good or bad about you too? It seems much like the old one from what I can tell only much wider.

[Ninjavenom]

It depends entirely upon who the person is. For example, some Nords are meh to boasting, some love it, some hate it. You've just gotta try them all.

Also, to anyone who's lacking fundage, try joining the Morag Tong. All you need to do is kill an innocent person, and their guildmaster approaches you when you sleep. Once you join, you can run about ten missions, each with a bonus prize for killing the mark/s a certain way, but you can still collect your money by straight up murdering the hell out of them. All of the bonus prizes are geared towards assassin characters anyway, so some of you may want to skip them. Anyway, once you run the last mission for your first Brotherhood Sanctuary, the next mission gives you both a large, empty place to live (well, you have to make it empty) and a horse named Shadowmere. So if you're not trying to drop a lot of dough on a horse or on a house at first, just run these missions first. Anything requiring stealth can just be chameleon or invisibled through, for our barbarian friends.


edit: cool note: After the second mission, try not to talk to too many people about your mark. Sometimes they do an awesome job of making you feel bad about killing them.

[timrpgland]

Got to level 14 last night and the Grand Master of the Arena. I have 11k saved up currently.

[Ninjavenom]

I couldn't get the screenshot function to work, i wanted to show everyone this awesome tomb with a bunch of baby skeletons and shit and a zombie head i found :O

I finished the Morag Tong quests today, [SPOILERS AHEAD]

And now i am the only Speaker for the BLack Hand. They give you a robe and hood that fortifies Sneak, Light Armor, Illusion, Blade, Marksman, and Security for +20 each when combined, and through the quest tree you get tons of awesome anti-magic weapons and some sweet daggers. Now i just have to go to the Night Mother once a week, get a list of names, and give it to a subordinate to get weekly payment :O

I can even kill the people on the list myself if i want to :O

And now the Sanctuary is being filled with assassins who can i have tag along with me if'n i want:O


Fucking COOL. I hope the thieves' guild turns out loot as good as this one did.

[Chojin]

You're probably using it wrong. The old one was worse because it was completely pointless.
Well, no. In the old one you would choose whether or admire or intimidate and they had seperate checks. In this one it's more of a really, really simple logic game than anything and the results are ridiculous. "I HATE YOU. I HATE YOU. I SEE. GO ON. I HATE YOU. I LOVE YOU. I HATE YOU. ;*. I HATE YOU. WELL DONE!" If I'm trying to persuade someone to like me, why do i have to threaten, admire, boast, and joke in equal portion? It just doesn't make sense at all.

And it removes a lot of the point in having a good speechcraft cause I can instantly make anyone love me after playing a 2-minute game of love-hate.

That bitch aside, I wanted to get up and cheer in the intro when it was panning over the world and playing the Elder Scrolls theme :<

[Supafly345]

You had to do that in the last game too, you had to taunt, taunt, taunt, and if they didn't attack you before they got to zero you would have to bribe or else they wouldn't listen to you. So usually you would have to admire them when they were around 20 then start tauting around 60.

[Chojin]

does that make the new system any less stupid

Been playing more today and the game is a lot of fun, though it's exactly like Morrowind. Not that that's a bad thing, though. I like the haggling system way better and the inclusion of fences does help to prevent you from wrecking the economy. The missions feel like something's actually going on as opposed to MISSION BEGIN MONSTER LEAP OUT HERE GO GO MISSION SUCCESS which is a big bonus; You actually feel like you're exploring a location instead of running around on a level someone built.

The guards have scared the bejesus out of me about 6 times now. Why the hell doesn't it make a noise when people magically phase through doors?

rummage rummage rummage HALT! AAAAAAAAH

Oh and I liked the music in morrowind better :< I don't remember any of the music in this game other than the hardcore junglism morrowind theme remix, which is still way worse than the morrowind theme.

[EisigerBiskuit]

Does anyone know anything about adding skins for the game? I saw screenshots of some guy adding his face and some other faces on his characters.

[the_dudefather]

so what is this? a racing game or something?

[executioneer]

Just a stereotypical AD&D nerdfest, but a good one.

[Guitar Woman]

Hijacking horses from stables is hilarious as shit. I like how after you steal a horse and ride to the next town as fast as you can the po-pos have somehow passed word on to everywhere in the game that you are an evil bad guy, even though they have absolutely no way of letting the other town know that before you get there.

[EisigerBiskuit]

HELLO? MAGIC? !!

[Guitar Woman]

OH YEAH I FORGOT THE GUARDS HAVE MYSTICAL MAGICAL GOOD GUY POWERS THAT LET THEM RAPE YOU TO PIECES IN 5 SECONDS OR LESS AMONG OTHER THINGS

[Guitar Woman]

It's too bad you can't kill them before they call in reinforcements. The first time I played this I assumed it was like theif so when a guard saw me I tried to fight him and before I knew what was going on there were like ten more all attacking me at once ;(

[executioneer]

i am going to download this before i buy it to see how it runs on my computor b/c i don't want to spend 50 bux on something i have to upgrade in order to enjoy >:

[Misdemonar]

Download, where?

[Guitar Woman]

The internet?

[MetalMilitia]

thats crazy talk

[executioneer]

it is a secrat but i will give you a hint its name starts with b and it ends with ittorrent :o

[Chojin]

Okay, so, I'm doing this mission where this paranoid guy sends me around town to spy on people who he thinks are conspiring to kill him. I lie to him about it and he pays me money. Eventually he tells me to kill all of the people.

Now, I realize you're supposed to turn him into the guards here but i'm really curious as to what's in the 'very hard' safe that he no doubt keeps my reward in ;< But every time I kill one of these people, no matter how stealthily, the game goes 'UNKNOWN FORCES HAVE WITNESSED OUR SHITTY PLOT DEVICE' and everyone in the world knows about it.

Is there anything I can do about that? I'm not above cheating to turn it off - it's completely unrealistic and queer.

Oh and I'm officially hooked again just like i was in Morrowind ;< I finally made a character I clicked with - An Austrian muscle-bound warrior who looks like he's related to Arnold who smashes suckas down and picks pretty flowers to make delicious beverages with.

[xbxDaniel]

His house has a couple of maces and some various shit you find in any house. Nothing extravagent though. You'd be better off just having him killed by the guards, then stealing his key when he's dead. That's what I did anyways.

[Chojin]

His key doesn't open the 'very hard' cupboard in his house, though. There's gotta be something in there.

And even if there isn't, I still would rather kill those people and get away with it ;<

[Chojin]

I imagine this game mechanic pretty much dicks you in the ass if you want to play a brigand of any description ;<

[xbxDaniel]

I just remember having to go through 10 lockpicks to open the chest with the maces, it's been a while since I did that quest.

[Misdemonar]

it is a secrat but i will give you a hint its name starts with b and it ends with ittorrent :o

That's slow for me, is it because I have a firewall?

[executioneer]

it could be because this just came out so there's not a whole lot of seeds yet :( or if there are, then it's because the seeds to downloaders ratio is way screwed up like 5:1 or more :( i'm actually trying two different torrents at once right now and they're only going at about 50 kbps combined >:

[Misdemonar]

I mean evreything is low for me, I try to download CHDS and it takes a week to get 9%.

[executioneer]

well i guess it COULD be because you're behind a firewall but idk

it also could be chds are not all that common so not a lot of seeds there too? plus the seeder might be seeding a butt-load of torrents apart from the one you're doing :(

[executioneer]

what kind of firewall btw

[Misdemonar]

Norton

[executioneer]

maybe this will be helpful????

http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/25.html

idk

[executioneer]

or perhaps this one (http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nip.nsf/docid/2002091708325336?Open&src=hot&docid=2002090915444036&nsf=nip.nsf&view=docid&dtype=&prod=Norton%20Internet%20Security&ver=2005&osv=&osv_lvl=)

[Misdemonar]

oh crap, it's my router, and I forgot the code..shit.

[executioneer]

oh no!

[executioneer]

what kind of router is it :(

[Misdemonar]

crap router I Have no control over...:( can you do me a favor and download the Carnevil CHD? I'll return the favor...someday.

[executioneer]

so you don't know what make your router is then :(

[Misdemonar]

Nope....;(

[executioneer]

ok where is the carnevil chd at then

[executioneer]

TELL ME TELL ME
WON'T YOU TELL ME
AND THEN TELLL ME AGAIINNNN

[Misdemonar]

http://www.bittorrent.com/detail.myt?infohash=66AF40D985C19B220E7AA02EB1DF1B 90C4CF4A64&per_page=10&search=CHD&index=3

OH YEAH BABBBY.

[executioneer]

it's giving me a 'connection refused' error >:

[Misdemonar]

Search for carnevil CHD :/

[executioneer]

no i mean when i download the torrent it says that in my window :(

[Misdemonar]

:( Shit, can you try cryptkiller?

[executioneer]

is that a different chd

[Misdemonar]

yeah

[executioneer]

ok idk if it's me or if this site is just plain butt-crap because cryptkiller is just sittin' there w/o any seeds or peers

[Misdemonar]

Damn.

[executioneer]

i'ma try other bt sites

[EisigerBiskuit]

I got about 100kbps average with IND but I had to get a patch all in all only took about 8hours overnight w/e.

[executioneer]

ok i found a huge-normous "all .chds in MAME" torrent and i'm only downloading those two files from it

[executioneer]

aw man and it's going like twice as fast as either of the other two >:

[Chojin]

miss, go to emucation.com and pay them $15. Then you can download all the CHDs and Sega CD games you could ever want.

[Chojin]

Something about dungeon/cave crawls feels so RIGHT about this game. It's like, if someone had made a movie in the 1980s about the year 2000 featuring a nerd, this is the game he would be shown playing.

[the_dudefather]

looks great so far, and all im doing is clobbering rats

im an Orc, called kerrek :P

[executioneer]

omfg you big nerd

[ArrowX]

Punching crabs and kicking them down hills :O

[EisigerBiskuit]

Killing old women for not telling me why maggots are jumping out of my stomach whenever I sleep. >:( Vampires suck.

[executioneer]

i finally found a fast fast seed for this i will be playing it in 4 hours >: i just hope my fx5500 is up to it, i mean it says they're supported and all but :(

[Ninjavenom]

When it says "unknown forces have witnessed your crime", that's the morag tong notice. Rest somewhere outside of a town and their emissary will visit you. You just keep getting attacked by guards because you need to drop him in one hit or they get alerted.

[EisigerBiskuit]

I was wondering what the hell that was all about. I got that message when I killed someone in an arena match. Then like 5 bedrests later, he shows up in a BURNING CASTLE. This guy obviously likes to make strange entrances.

[executioneer]

mother fucking son of shit i KNEW my computor would not be fast enough >: i can't even get thru CHARACTER CREATION without being annoyed at how fucking slow it runs, with EVERYTHING all the way down >:

[executioneer]

christ is it too much to ask to not have to spend 500 dollars on upgrades every dang year >:

[timrpgland]

Didn't have a lot of time over the weekend but my Nord is level 21 now.

I suppose I should start doing the story quests now... :(

[xbxDaniel]

I'm stuck on a theives guild quest. I managed to get out to this bay area after almost drowning, but I didn't get what I needed and have to go back.

[Ninjavenom]

That's why i always keep 5 saves :(

Autosave, quicksave, old save, and two current ones. Always have a backup ;o

[executioneer]

do any of you play this game with an agp graphics card and if so what card do you have :(

[Chojin]

willie i use a pci express!

i upgraded about a half year ago for $800. while a good pciex card is about $200, you'll have to get a new mobo to support it, and then usually you'll need new ram and a processor etc etc and it all snowballs unless you're good at resisting change unlike me ;<

[executioneer]

i am asking b/c i do not want to buy a new motherboard and none of the stores around my area stock the AGP 6800 that is suppose to be the best agp card for running this so i was just wondering what agp cards run it tolerably well :(

ps all my other specs are above reccommended ;_;

[Supafly345]

HOORAY!! I got it on the 360. I'll update you on how awesome it is on there after I play for a few hours.

[Gurlugon]

Think I can get it to run bearably with a 1.9 GHz Athlon 64, 128 MB Radeon 9600 Pro AGP 8x, and 1.5 gigs of PC 3200 RAM?

Because I don't. :(

[executioneer]

this (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest) will help figure that question out ;(

[executioneer]

guys i totally did not wait for advice i went to bestbuy and got a credit cards and got a brand spanky enw expensive brand graphics card :(

[executioneer]

this one :( (http://www.bfgtech.com/7800GS_256.html)

[Chojin]

bad move, i order all my shit from newegg. best buy's return policy is shit.

[executioneer]

I didnt want to order online because of a problem

[Supafly345]

This game feels like it was made for the 360. With the hotkeys being acessable with the same thumbs, I don't know how the PC could make this game any better other than reduce the load times.

[BlueOatmeal]

So does it run smoother than Morrowwind did on the xbox?

[xbxDaniel]

Hell yes.

[Chojin]

I wonder why steering a horse has different controls than walking ;<

But anyway these games are developed for both platforms simultaneously; there's a console command to switch between xbox and pc versions in the game ;< I got the PC version because I wanted better graphics and to use the construction set.

[xbxDaniel]

I couldn't afford to upgrade my computer. I'd love to have the construction set though.

[timrpgland]

The construction set made my decision other than the fact that I don't want to buy a 360, at least not yet.

The horse mechanics are not very good. With quick travel they are kind of just a nice addition, not really a necessity either.

I bought my character's 2nd house yesterday. Only 22,000 left. I turned level 22 last night as well. So far I have strength and endurance maxed out (nearing agility) as far as attributes. I only have sneak mastered so far for skills. It's kind of nice though since now in most dungeons I run across higher level monsters or humans mainly wearing expensive equipment like glass, ebony or real daedric stuff. Makes for good loot hauls.


My "Vow that Breaks" quest is broken for me still... bastards.

[Ninjavenom]

Use the "RA" command in the console to reset any important NPCs you may have lost or killed.

[timrpgland]

Use the "RA" command in the console to reset any important NPCs you may have lost or killed.

That doesn't seem to be the issue. I completed the quest and the quest finisher is alive still. Haven't murdered anyone. I can try rerezzing the enemy that gave me the quest item i suppose... not sure what that'll do. I have 3 rockshatters now.

[Gurlugon]

Thanks, willie!

"You Have: 2.0 GHz Performance Rated at 2.8 GHz" is news to me.

[Supafly345]

This is the first character I have made dominately a bow user. The advantages to leveling up each skill has become so rewarding that the classes don't seem unbalenced at all, and you can actually choose anything and have just an easy, or hard of a time.

[Supafly345]

There sure does seem to be a general lack of enemies compared to morrowind though. I was used to every cave being packed with bandits, now I am lucky if I can find 4 animal-type monsters.

[Ninjavenom]

I prefer it with a few less random bandits. Finally the stealth characters get a break and are able to sneak wihout having to get caught midway through the room. I'm thinking about making a Spellsneak character tonight, which would be my first non-blade-speacialty character since i started playing Elder Scrolls. I'm looking forward to using the Summon Xivialia spell :O

[timrpgland]

I'm liking my character so far. Found some more magical heavy armor. Main stuff is my 18 point buff in strength from my ring/gauntlets and my 50% resist to all 3 from my tunic. 118 strength sure is nice for looting and killing. He's too good for his own good.

Hit 23 last night as well and currently have 43k saved up. Still need to decorate my Bruma house though.

[Chojin]

Listening to that orc in the Dark Brotherhood recount his tale of murdering that 5-year-old Nord girl at her birthday party was one of the small handful of 'shit, that's fucked up' gaming moments i've had ;<

The last one I had was in SOF2 when I blew apart every piece of a guy's head and saw the inside of his raincoat hood afterward ;<

[Ninjavenom]

Almost all of the hits had me going "that's fucking shitty, i hope this character isn't a perfect reflection of myself :(", especially when you have to kill that whole family.

[Chojin]

I got invited to the Brotherhood because apparently the Grand Champion of the arena is an innocent man, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Supafly345]

I don't know how I got invited, I never killed anyone I wasn't supposed to kill. Maybe I got invited earlier because I was an assassin or because my main weapon was the bow?

[Ninjavenom]

The person has to have a higher positive personality to negative personality ratio. Like, bandits won't earn you any credit, but an NPC who smuggles drugs but is otherwise an upstanding community member will attract the Brotherhood. I want to get the screenshot function working so i can show off this awesome fucking staff i got :O

[Ninjavenom]

http://home.comcast.net/~terrorizer/oblivion-horus.jpg

I'm running it at 640x480. Sue me.

Awesome staff, though. It hits for 20 points shock damage, and at full charge of 3000 it has 111 uses :O

[MLE]

hey ninja, why don't you hang out with us >:

[Supafly345]

I got that freak weapon from my first cave-raid, so I thought it was supposed to be found first =/

[Chojin]

Is there a polymorph potion or something in the game that lets you change your appearence?

I ask because my character originally looked awesome and since i contracted vampirism he just looks like a really creepy old man. His jutting chin now has a sack of fat flapping under it and my skin's all cracked and saggy.

Is that all part of being a vampire or do I just age really quickly or what? Either way, I just look like an idiot in the best armor I have (grand champion raiments), like some 60-year-old cosplayer. And it's embarrassing.

And yeah, Ninja, I got that staff in my second cave raid too ;< I gunned down a good number of people in the arena with it but the armorers want $4004 to repair it so fuck that. And no-one has enough money on-hand to make selling it worthwhile.

[executioneer]

i'm pretty sure thats the vampirism yeah

[the_dudefather]

so far ive only been able to play this for a few hours (away from my main pc y'see) so any tips regarding character creation and whotnot?

was thinking about going either fighter/destruction magic (mostly fighter), stealthy thiefy type fighter or stick with my orc barbarian (maybe with a redone build)

[EisigerBiskuit]

You can cure Vampirism by doing a boring ass quest, I think one of the mages in the Super Hall of Magic Friends Guild in the main town can tell you how to do it.

[ArrowX]

Do you actually get to physically suck blood from people in this game?

[Zomboid]

How many of you made custom classes? I pretty much made a nord paladin only with very little magic...and man I feel like a nerd but this game is fucking awesome.

[Chojin]

You can cure Vampirism by doing a boring ass quest, I think one of the mages in the Super Hall of Magic Friends Guild in the main town can tell you how to do it.
I have to give this whore 5 grand soul gems to cure it ;< Where the fuck am I gonna get that ;<
Do you actually get to physically suck blood from people in this game?
Yeah, and if you don't you take sun damage. I think I have a bug though because my VAMPIRE PERSONALITY TOUCH SPELL only works when I'm in withdrawal :<

[the_dudefather]

the more i hear about this game the more i want to continue playing (once i can that is)

[Ninjavenom]

I have to give this whore 5 grand soul gems to cure it ;< Where the fuck am I gonna get that ;<

There's a fort that has 3 in it, and she has one in her basement. The fourth can be bought from certain mages guild members.

[EisigerBiskuit]

I found 2 while stealing about in Imperial city, in the Staves shop.

There's 7 right there.

[Zomboid]

Man it's funny stealing a horse and having the dumbass owner try and chase you down/

[Chojin]

So apparently the longer i go without feeding, the more powers I get. Why is that.

[ItalianStereotype]

because instead of eating, you're doing new things. fatty.

[Chojin]

WHY IS EVERYONE BEING SO HURTFUL LATELY

[EisigerBiskuit]

VAMPIRISM REDUCES CHARISMA

[timrpgland]

Just got 100k today and hit level 25. Even with most mobs leveling with me, it doesn't seem to matter anymore. It's gotten easy again (maybe time to move the slider).

These magebane greaves I picked up the other day are pretty damn sweet.

[EisigerBiskuit]

For some reason I can't keep myself from going past level 6. I Just start another game.

Maybe I'll try to break that with a new class. I have no idea why the name Cock Thief came to mind, but it comes with Security and Illusion! :O

[Chojin]

So in Morrowind we had 4 classes of armor: Heavy, Medium, Light, And Unarmored. In Oblivion we have two: Heavy and Light.

Is it possible to get any benefit from not wearing armor at all in Oblivion? As in, do you get a dodging bonus like you did in Morrowind with unarmored, or a bonus to sneak or spellcraft? Or is it just what i think it is - none, but some unarmored clothing is enchanted?

And I would like some details on how vampirism works :< Feeding seems to neuter your powers, which doesn't seem like the way things should work.

[Ninjavenom]

Feeding nulls your powers but you get two distinct advantages from that - people won't completely hate you, so you can still buy things you need without charming, and the sun won't tear your ass a new one if you stay well fed. When you become a vampire and don't feed for 3 days, people fucking HATE you.

The advantage to not wearing armor is only available to spellcasters, whose spell effectiveness goes down according to what kind and how much armor they wear. Meaning that, for instance, if you had a 65% effectiveness, your fireball spell could hit a foe and do absolutely nothing. This makes an incentive for casters to wear their robes or just normal clothes. There are enchanted normal clothes, but you'll only see them if your character is more of a caster type. Almost all loot in the game is levelled towards your character and his/her stats. That's why if you're a light armor user, you won't find ebony as often as glass, and vice versa. That's also why most enchanted weapons you will find are either basic ones of the type you don't use, or fancy ones of the type you do use.

[Zomboid]

Did anyone else end up getting attacked by the unicorn and killed it, assuming there'd be another one but there really wasn't? :(

[Archduke Tips]

You killed the last unicorn? :(

I just got this game and it is awesome.
I haven't gotten to play it very much though. So far I found the arena and fought a few times. Then I ran around in the woods and got attacked by some wolves.

I have no idea what I am doing!! but its awesome.

[Supafly345]

Yeah, the unicorn follows me around now and is considered my horse for some reason. Instead of killing the minotaurs that protect it I just hopped onto it and rode off, now whenever I quick travel he appears by my side. I lost my dark brotherhood horse though.

[Ninjavenom]

Mine died at an oblivion gate :(

[Zomboid]

Mine was my buddy too, then it attacked me and a guy ran out of his house to help me kill it so we kicked it's ass and I ripped it's horn off.

Right now I'm hunting vampires for some loser secret group in the imperial temple district.

[executioneer]

what are you guys, some kind of giant red bull

[timrpgland]

I killed the unicorn a while back and I'M GLAD I DID!!! TO DEATH WITH THE UNICORNS!

[Zomboid]

Yeah, it was kinda useless. Looked awesome when I first saw it though. Shadowmere is much cooler though :O

[the_dudefather]

im imagining something like this

http://70.86.201.113/imageserv2/temporary/PBF024ADUnicorn.jpg

[Archduke Tips]

Today I started a bar fight. I stabbed some orc and the bar patrons all jumped the orc and then the guards came in and they all started brawling. Some angry chick came running down from one of the rooms upstairs and started fighting the guards, but got killed pretty quick and her corpse fell onto a table knocking lettuce and carrots all over the place.

I just watched the whole thing. It was hilarious. Does this sort of thing happen often?

[Fathom Zero]

Damn, I didn't know that level of environmental interaction was possible in a game. You shoulda made a video of it.
AS SOON AS I GET A 360, BY GOD....

[executioneer]

hahaha i love jumping up on tables with stuff arranged all nice on them and knocking it all over the floor >:D jerk physics are awesome

[Zomboid]

Yeah, I didn't even think of it till supafly mentioned it to me, but it's hilarious when ya take a big staff or broom or something and knock over all their nicely arranged merchandise.

Early on in the game, I saw a cat guy sneak up to a table, knock half the shit off and then calmy start eating.

Edit: And that fucking vampire that fathered the half orc arena champion guy (killed him too though >: ) made me a vampire and it sucks ass cause I can never find anyone sleeping to make my appearance less scary. I get fucking roasted outside during the day.

[Chojin]

If you suck at security and can't get into an inn's private rooms to feed, your next best bet are homeless people. After that, the mages' and fighters' guild quarters.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, I eventually remembered that I was a member of all the guilds and so I did feed a few times, but then I got sick of doing that every day so I went and got the cure :o

I got like 3 grand soul gems in the mystic shop in the imperial city, and then found all the other shit pretty easily.

[timrpgland]

I became the Master of the Fighter's Guild last night and leveled up again. The helmet that Oreywn gives you is pretty killer but too bad it looks stupid. Now to finish the other guilds.

[Ninjavenom]

Today I started a bar fight. I stabbed some orc and the bar patrons all jumped the orc and then the guards came in and they all started brawling. Some angry chick came running down from one of the rooms upstairs and started fighting the guards, but got killed pretty quick and her corpse fell onto a table knocking lettuce and carrots all over the place.

I just watched the whole thing. It was hilarious. Does this sort of thing happen often?


I saw two nords beat each other shitless in the bar, then run outside and get slaughtered by a guard. Try using your speechcraft to piss someone off into fighting you in a really crowded bar. Or chameleon yourself and hide out of sight, then summon a monster.

[timrpgland]

I got annoyed the other day when trying to complete a random quest. Had to meet this orc character in a inn so I went over there only to have some homeless guy sneak up to where the orc was and start a fight. The orc started chasing down this bum outside of the inn so I followed. The guards went after the orc however and killed him, ending the quest. Didn't save for a while before that so said screw it and then later tryed rezzing him to find out that it didn't matter, the quest wouldn't complete no matter what. :(

I did manage to fix the other "vow that breaks" quest that was broken for me.

[Zomboid]

Did you do that big quest in bramura or whatever it's called? The one the countess gives you? I did that and got a whole lot of good treasure on the way :O, plus it's pretty cool cause you go pretty far into the mountains.

Best ones so far though were the later dark brotherhood ones where you pick up your missions in weird places.

[the_dudefather]

cant wait to start playing this again once i get back to my main pc :)

btw: is there any advantages to being a vampire, apart from looking sexy cool (or hidiously deformed depending on what movies you watch), heard there were sme depending on your class

[Supafly345]

Finally cured that goddamn vampirism. You get a healthey amount of gold, but now that I cured it once I can just go back to that wich every time I turn into one and get cured again whenever I want. Glad they never make you do that damn mission ever again.

My guy looked more dark, old, and dying before he turned into a vampire, even though I wasn't pale.

[xbxDaniel]

When you become a vampire and don't feed you get special powers that are unlocked over time. If you do feed then you just get the regular stat boosts, but don't look horrendous and people will like you.

[Supafly345]

I think everyone has figured that out by now, thanks for being three days behind.

[xbxDaniel]

Dudefather asked. Do you have to be very good with magic in order to do the quests for the mages guild? Or is it made so that anybody can easily do them?

[the_dudefather]

When you become a vampire and don't feed you get special powers that are unlocked over time. If you do feed then you just get the regular stat boosts, but don't look horrendous and people will like you.

cool thanks for the conselladated info

[Ninjavenom]

Mages Guild missions are usually just collection missions, though you really should try a magic character. They annihilate.

[Supafly345]

Sorry.
I've gotten to the highest ranking in Dark Brotherhood, Fighter's Guild, and Thieves Guild, now I'm working on getting the mages guild conquered. And I am wishing that I made a magic character, because they are the only skills that you will rarely use unless you RELY on them, and if you don't then they are hard as hell to level. And I am thinking I am gonna make one next, because the magic in this game is so goddamn fun to use.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, I started off with a big warrior guy with healing abilities but even those are really weak cause I don't level them enough. The magic is fun to use though so it's hard to decide between an assasin type guy or just a magic user the second time I play...which I'm assuming will be in a while cause I'm not even half done yet.

[EisigerBiskuit]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Eisiger/Melonworld.jpg
The melons have come to take the town!

[Fathom Zero]

That's awesome...

ATTACK OF THE KILLER WATERMELONS!

[Zomboid]

I tried to dupe watermelons and it didn't work for some reason :(

[the_dudefather]

i like how the guy in the pic is looking at you as if to say
"i suppose you have nothing to do with this mess"

[Supafly345]

I duped vampire ashes, trying to get 20 and I ended up with 400 with them spilling over the docks of Anvil into the water. Vampire kool-aid harbor they now call it.

[EisigerBiskuit]

God I feel like a fruit. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Eisiger/gaston_oblivion.jpg)

[executioneer]

hahaha kingdom hearts thread :lol

[Supafly345]

I just found a seconed Lovecraft referance in the game.

[executioneer]

ok

[EisigerBiskuit]

a whatcraft

[Supafly345]

Leave me alone guys

[executioneer]

jeez

[Ninjavenom]

Duping stuff is hell of easy. It doesn't get any easier than console commands. Or you can even cheat at THAT and use the construction set to place X quantity of Y item in Z place with only about 3 minutes of work, counting load times.

[EisigerBiskuit]

Gaston has to kill Gaston, oh the irony :lol

[Supafly345]

Uh, me and zomboid are duping in the 360 version ninja, we have to use this bizarre arrow switching thing in order to dupe.

[MetalMilitia]

Anyone using an ATI X1K video card for this game might want to check this out; http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5269

Seem someone released a driver which allows for both HDR and AA, which was previously broken in some way.

[Ninjavenom]

Uh, me and zomboid are duping in the 360 version ninja, we have to use this bizarre arrow switching thing in order to dupe.


oh. Durrr :o

[the_dudefather]

got morrowind for cheap to play on my laptop while i wait to play oblivion.

should make its shiny new graphics all the better after playing this for a while

[Supafly345]

Ok, I beat all the main storylines and was very satisfied with how it went down in the end. Really gave you the sense of being a part of something epic instead of just a "one guy rises to save the world singlehandedly" storyline.

Despite not being as incredibly free as the last game, since this game makes it REALLY hard to max everything and become an overpowered brute that is good at everything, it is very rewarding, and I still want to keep playing. But at least now I will be able to cut back, every moment that hasn't been used on work has been used on this.

[Ninjavenom]

It kind of makes sense with the story, though. In Morrowind you were the reincarnation of a god, but now you're just some schmoe who happens to kick ass at stuff.

[Supafly345]

The nerevarine never was a god, he was a GOD-SLAYER.
But I was talking in most videogames where the hero has to save the world or something, its always just a kid or something that becomes the most powerful person who ever lived, this game makes you work for it, and you never really are left without a challenger.

[Chojin]

BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE WITH A KINKO'S COPY CARD

BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE AND STEAL ALL YOUR STUFF

BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE WITH A KINKO'S COPY CARD

I CAN'T WAIT TO BREAK INTO YOUR HOUSE

[Chojin]

So I jumped my horse off of a cliff. I flew off and turned around to see him toppling down the hill with his neck all bendy-wendy.

I then spent the better part of an hour rolling him length-wise (head-over-feet) down the hill into the lake.

Apparently horses are really light.

[Archduke Tips]

That was an awesome story.

Thankyou, Chojin.

[executioneer]

guys i totally take all the clothes off of female bandits and then punch them in the b**bs :(

[Guitar Woman]

So I jumped my horse off of a cliff. I flew off and turned around to see him toppling down the hill with his neck all bendy-wendy.

I then spent the better part of an hour rolling him length-wise (head-over-feet) down the hill into the lake.

Apparently horses are really light.
Screens or it didn't happen.

[Archduke Tips]

Do those guys at Weatherleah ever clean up their house? I come back to visit all the time since I helped them kill the Ogres, but they never clean it out. The skeletons in the attic are kinda creepy.

[executioneer]

it was mostly cleaned up when i went back after the mission i got from the thieves' guild contact to kill the rest of the ogres :/ there was like one rib cage in the attic still

[the_dudefather]

everyone is really friendly in the dark brotherhood, not like those smack-talking guys at the arena

now im a vampire that not only drinks your blodd, but steals all your stuff too

anyway, to summerise my experience of playing this game during the last two nights: awesomesuperfantastic

[Chojin]

Screens or it didn't happen.
It's really easy. Horses are set to a really light weight, so drop one off a cliff, lock onto its head or leg with Z, then just roll it down something.

It was the Weynon Priory Horse (not brother mabel's, one of the others), in case that's the only one that's that light.

Also, I don't know how to take screens in Oblivion :<

[Guitar Woman]

Printscreen button?

[EisigerBiskuit]

HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!

oblivion_default.ini

Search: bAllowScreenShot=1

Dunno what to do from there.

[Chojin]

it doesn't save them into a folder, though. i don't think.

[EisigerBiskuit]

They said you have to put them into an art program, yes it sucks.

[Chojin]

That's stupid. I'll just load up fraps.

[Zomboid]

Anyone been to hackdirt? :chatter

[timrpgland]

Hackdirt that small village where everyone hates outsiders? I ran through there before if that's the case. Talked to a few people, took my insults and then left.

[Zomboid]

There's more to it than meets the eye :O. Check the buildings and go through one of the trapdoors. Or stay in the inn. It's probably one of the references to HP Lovecraft supafly mentioned.

[executioneer]

that and the mission that is named "Shadow over Hackdirt" :lol

i stole the book of the deep ones from their church but man i was kind of hoping to actually get to fight a nameless horror of some sort :(

[the_dudefather]

i wouldnt sleep in an inn there :lol

[executioneer]

nothing bad happened but it was only for a hour and during the day so idk

[executioneer]

ps did anyone notice how everyone in that town has weird faces i bet you didn't

[Chojin]

So there were these 3 guys in bruma who locked a SECRET ARTIFACT away in a nearby cave. They then made 3 keys to this chest because 'for one man to have a power this terrifying' would be bad. I get the item but a MAGIC WORD hides its TERRIBLE SECRET. The widow of the keyholder SPEAKS THE WORD!

It's an amulet of +8 to speed.

I killed her and stripped her naked.

[Zomboid]

that and the mission that is named "Shadow over Hackdirt" :lol

i stole the book of the deep ones from their church but man i was kind of hoping to actually get to fight a nameless horror of some sort :(

How do you get that mission? I went in and just searched around without having a mission to do:(

And yeah, you need to stay for like 10 hours then you wake up and it's kind of a recreation of the shadow over innsmouth inn scene, only you totally kill them all cause they're pussies :O

[the_dudefather]

"And yeah, you need to stay for like 10 hours then you wake up and it's kind of a recreation of the shadow over innsmouth inn scene, only you totally kill them all cause they're pussies"

lol thought that might happen

[executioneer]

that and the mission that is named "Shadow over Hackdirt" :lol

i stole the book of the deep ones from their church but man i was kind of hoping to actually get to fight a nameless horror of some sort :(

How do you get that mission? I went in and just searched around without having a mission to do:(

And yeah, you need to stay for like 10 hours then you wake up and it's kind of a recreation of the shadow over innsmouth inn scene, only you totally kill them all cause they're pussies :O

the mission isn't to steal the book but there's a mission to find the argonian shopkeeper's daughter in (forget the nearby town's name, Chorrol?) and the whole thing is highly reminiscent

[Ninjavenom]

i was SO pissed when i got that gay amulet.

[Chojin]

Yeah, the guards chased me all the way into some abandoned ruin after I cold-cocked the bitch while she was sleeping. Fucker actually ran into the ruin after me and all the monsters totally ignored him as I hauled ass looking for some horrifying trap to spring on him. Unfortunately this ruin had NONE, but the guard didn't take my jackie-chan inspired powers into effect, so I slapped the weapon out of his hands and beat him senseless in a stairwell.

[the_dudefather]

the scary relentless guards are not fun for running away from, especialy when they chase you for miles and miles through lakes and caves and such

[MLE]

IT'S ALL OVER, LAWBREAKER

[Chojin]

yeah, you'd think for as often as you hear that that they would have a few more takes of it

i also hate how they force you into paused conversation to yell at you. i think that should be more of a thing where you have to yield to them to start that conversation.

The BREAKING THE LAW BREAKING THE LAW system needs work anyway, considering I can 'z' a plate to just move it, I get a bounty of 1 (though i can punch that plate with no conseqences), and then I can get murdered by the guard for doing it. NO ONE MISPLACES LIBRARY BOOKS ON MY WATCH CUT CUT STAB CUT CUT

[Ninjavenom]

I am almost certain that a mod of that system is imminent. I definitely agree that it needs work. The yielding thing would be nice. I also wish you could summon your horse from anywhere, or at least get a notice when they are actually dead. It would also be helpful if you weren't charged for killing a guard on accident with an area effect spell.

Does anyone else have Finger of the Mountain? If you cast a weakness to magicka spell and then a weakness to lightning spell on your victim before you use it, that fucker is almost guaranteed to kill anyone but a guard. I'm still trying to get my .ini hacks to take, so the lightning will be red, have twelve bolts, and 3x as much throwing power :O

[executioneer]

i bet that spell would rule, but i don't have enough magicka to CAST it >:

[Chojin]

Are there any good mods out yet? :<

[kahljorn]

They have a few posted on the elderscrolls forum. Including some to fix the gay leveling system, some ai tweaks, and thievery tweaks.

I hate the gay leveling system in this game, I thought maybe they would improve it. Why do they handicap you for picking all the skills you want as major skills? You end up gimped as fuck without getting those x5's ;(

[Misdemonar]

Speaking of elder scorlls, I know this isn't relvent to Oblivion, but my morrowind construction set is not showing the rendering.

[ArrowX]

Just select Athletics and Acrobatics for some of your majors. Run around and jump everywhere.

[the_dudefather]

making loads of trips to fort blueblood and back because all the loot you get is damn heavy is quite time consuming

[kahljorn]

I hate that if I want to have a good character I have to pick the skills i'm going to use most as minor skills and the skills I'm going to use least as major skills.

Who fucking thought of that?

[kahljorn]

I made a mod so that it's a bit easier to get higher multipliers. If anybody is interested in setting it up themselves the setting is under ilevelup(X)mult where X is the number of skills you've leveled. I basically made mine just a little bit easier, so it wouldn't be over balanced but still be nice enough to level my c haracter. I left the x5 multiplier alone, but made the rest of them possible one level lower, essentially.

[ArrowX]

I though this might be usefull
http://www.gamebanshee.com/oblivion/maps/images/cyrodiil.jpg

[EisigerBiskuit]

Don't you just love it when this happens to you? (http://media.putfile.com/LolJauffre)

[Drunkenbrigade]

:eek

[Zomboid]

:lol

[kahljorn]

You know you can yield by blocking and pushing space on them, right?

[Supafly345]

Oh good, I was needing a map with the locations of the gates.

Btw, all of the SS I see of the PC version aren't that pretty, is there not a single person in the world who can turn the graphics and resolution up for this on their PC?

[the_dudefather]

my pc diddnt play it too badly, there was less 'bloom' and the framerate wasnt as great as the xbox version. tex is a wee bit harder to read as im not using a HDtv

[Chojin]

Some of the mods I'm running now!

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul 1.2
New version out today! Basically makes mobs appear more frequently and level in a more sensible manner. Guys that are supposed to be challenging have higher level mininums than normal, but aren't set to unlimited level so that there's no bonus for levelling your character. Other neat stuff like clothes & silverware are worth more. The readme on this is ten days long, but it's basically a lot of neat changes that make the game more rewarding. Some other peoples' mods were absorbed into this huge project, including Lyrondor's Upgraded Combat Behavior and Better Water.

Natural Weather/Water by Max Tael
More realistic lighting effects & improved textures for the skies. Shadows moving over the sun make things darker. When it gets foggy, it's more foggyish. The world isn't as dark blue and purple, it's more realistically-tinted. The water is semi-transparent from above, but not overly. Just some neat things.

Natural Wildlife
Changes the animal scripting so that animals don't fight the same as people - Every animal has a chance to run when they notice you and some are more aggressive in certain circumstances than others. They also don't just charge at you and attack until they fall over anymore.

Improved UI
Makes icons smaller and increases various windows' size. Maps up/down arrows to common menu choices.

Topless mod
Terra mode :rolleyes