The RPG Completion Quest: Part Deux

[James]

Some of you may remember my previous thread.

Anyway, my goal is to beat lots of RPGs.

Here my list of completed games thus far;

NES

Dragon Warrior 1
Dragon Warrior 2
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 3

GameBoy/GBC

Final Fantasy Adventure
Pokemon Blue
Pokemon Silver (kind of)

SNES

Final Fantasy 4 (PSX version)
Final Fantasy 5 (PSX version)
Secret of Mana
E.V.O.
Chrono Trigger (PSX version)
Super Mario RPG

N64
Paper Mario

PSX

Final Fantasy 7

GBA

Golden Sun

PS2

Final Fantasy X
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
The Bard's Tale
Magic Pengel

PC

Diablo
Diablo II

Games I have yet to play or beat, that I have in my possession;

NES

Mother

GameBoy/GBC

Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Final Fantasy Legend 3
Pokemon Silver (again)

SNES

Earthbound
Secret of Mana 2
Bahamut Lagoon
Illusion of Gaia
7th Saga

PSX

Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 8
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy Tactics
Legend of Dragoon

GBA

Golden Sun 2
Mario & Luigi
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

PS2

Phantom Brave
Final Fantasy X-2


So, I just beat Kingdom Hearts 2, pumping 86 hours of love into it before the finale came spurting out in glorious release. I loved that game, but I'm sad it's over. If you have a PS2, you owe it to yourself to own this game.

Before that, I'd beaten Bard's Tale. It's a fun enough game with a unique concept and funny moments. But the words "not enough" fit this game very well. The battles got tedious after a while, as did the frequent load times. The humor was good, but wasn't frequent enough. And the game was short (a good thing in its current incarnation). I would love to see a balls-out hilarious RPG, though.


What I'm playing now is Magic Pengel, and it is painful. A GREAT concept (draw creatures and fight with them), but it screams of a poor J-RPG. Right down to the horrendous dialogue (and even worse voice acting OH MY GOD the person who voiced Taro needs to die in a fire). Your Doodles increase in stats and abilities the more you draw on them, and you can draw more and use more part types when you fight in "official" battles. Problem is this usually means that you'll be redrawing your Doodles a few times. Hmm... I'll use this Hard pallette part to draw a weapon in his hand. Oh, now I have the Weapon pallette part 6 battles later. Time to redraw from scratch.

You can't pick and choose what parts to undo, so you have to keep undoing everything you've drawn in order, up to where you want to continue from. Sometimes, it's just better to start all over with your increased color usage and new parts. If you delete AND redraw without leaving the menu, your revised Doodle won't lose their experience. Not that experience even matters; You gain a hit point or two every now and then, but that's it.

Thankfully, this also appears to be short. I'm not even going to bother getting any of the bonus items (You can get an encyclopedia page or some shit if you get 1million gold).




Discuss RPGs, and recommend others for me to play, or what you think I shoudl play next. Ask me about the ones I've beaten (Does Golden Sun suck? Very much so.) Keep in mind one thing though - I will not play any Dragon Warrior games ever again.

[Mad Melvin]

The absence of PC games puzzles me.

I don't really know any good console RPGs outside that list of yours. I know a lot of bad ones though.

[camacazio]

Phantasy Star Anything

[James]

The absence of PC games puzzles me.

I don't really know any good console RPGs outside that list of yours. I know a lot of bad ones though.

I don't really have space on my PC right now to install games. I was thinking of getting Neverwinter Nights Platinum, though.

I've beaten both Diablos. Adding those to my list.

[Mad Melvin]

I never really liked Neverwinter Nights, altough im a big fan of Baldurs Gate. :/

oh, and Fallout 1 & 2 are both amazing games, but im sure you're familiar with them.

Deus Ex is great too. The first one.

[Jeff The Ninja]

You should try the Wild Arms games, Especially the first one (or the Remake Alter Code F). It has a great storyline and Great Gameplay (eventough it has been years since i have played it). Its on the playstation.

Then there is the Lunar Series (Lunar Silver Star Story, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue). They are really good, altough a bit easy. Its on the Sega CD and the Playstation.

Brainlord, not really great but its there. SNES

Azure Dreams, its a weird Dungeon Crawler, Altough Rare. Playstation.

Thousand Arms. A cross Between Japanese Dating Sim and Traditional RPG. A lot of fun, if you have the patience. Playstation

Chrono Cross, not as good as chrono trigger, but its not bad. Playstation

Grandia 1+2. These Games Are pretty good, good if you like Japanese RPG's like I do. Grandia 1 is on the Saturn and the Playstation and Grandia 2 is on the Dreamcast, Playstation 2 and the PC.

The First Legacy of Kain Game (Blood Omen 1) is a lot like the Original Zelda Game. So I consider it an RPG.

Also Try Chrysalis for the GameBoy Color.

You Also MUST play the Shin Megami Tensei/Megaten series, It kicks ass and there are more of them than Final Fantasy.

Then there are the Star Ocean Games, you should Try them.

I will add more when I think of more I have played.

[Skulhedface]

It's a matter of taste, but I found the Wild Arms series to be fun.

Tales of Phantasia is pretty good, I downloaded a translated English version for my SNES emulator and it played rather well, though it takes quite a bit of getting used to. Thanks to it being a direct fan translation the quirky Japanese stuff is still in there, and I have yet to play another RPG that uses the word "fuck".

I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I noticed you have but haven't beaten FFVIII, I'd recommend that, I prefer it over part VII.

Also, if you consider the Legend Of Zelda games semi-sorta RPGish, you can't go wrong with The Minish Cap.

[Jeff The Ninja]

Thanks to it being a direct fan translation the quirky Japanese stuff is still in there, and I have yet to play another RPG that uses the word "fuck".

The Shin Megami Tensei/Megaten Series Has tons of Swearing. As well as Boobs, Blood, And other Bad stuff. Its like Final Fantasy for Adults. Meaning that No Preteen Anime Fans have yet to Fuck it up.


I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I noticed you have but haven't beaten FFVIII, I'd recommend that, I prefer it over part VII.


Yes, I think you are in the minority here. I personally hated FF VIII. I bought it for the playstation and Sold it back to the store for Dragon Warrior for the NES (which IS a lot Better). Later this year, I downloaded the PC Version Because I cannot Justify Buying a Game I hate (I downloaded it for a friend who has no Burner).

Also, Give Robin Hood, Prince of thieves for the Nintendo a Shot. I still Play it and it is a lot of fun.

And Little Ninja Brothers.

[RaNkeri]

Baldur's Gate 2
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 9
Earthbound

[Fathom Zero]

Then there is the Lunar Series (Lunar Silver Star Story, Lunar 2: Eternal Blue). They are really good, altough a bit easy. Its on the Sega CD and the Playstation.


Except for the fact that they'll run you around eighty buck-aroos in the U.S. But there's no doubt that they're good games.

Speaking of expensive RPGs, what about Valkyrie Profile? Side-scrolling action-rpg action, baby!

[Skulhedface]

I just remembered, Sweet Home is pretty good.

[James]

Because RaNkeri can't read threads, I will now never be playing Baldur's Gate 2.

[Zomboid]

Terranigma for SNES

[Misdemonar]

I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY WHATSOEVER.

[Guitar Woman]

what has prevented you from finishing FF6

[Jeff The Ninja]

How about Illusion Of Gaia. Im surprised that I just Remembered it.

[Zomboid]

It's already on the fucking list, maybe? You don't think any of us would've already said that? Read before you post, dumbass.

[James]

what has prevented you from finishing FF6

I used to watch my brother play it back when it was on the SNES as FF3. I watched him beat it. And during that time, I didn't know enough about RPGs to tailor my own group to beat the final boss.

Other replays of the game usually resulted in being later sidetracked by new games that came out - An excuse that also explains why almost every RPG I've played but not beaten has gone unfinished. Right up to playing the Anthologies release of the game.

[RaNkeri]

Because RaNkeri can't read threads, I will now never be playing Baldur's Gate 2.

What do you have against BG2? >:

It's IMO the only rpg for PC that does NOT turn boring... :(

[executioneer]

because EVERY OTHER GODDAMN RPG you listed he's either playing or has played, jerk >: so he's gonna not play it to spite you

[RaNkeri]

Ain't the oint of this thread to list the RPG's you've completed?

[Jeff The Ninja]

Because this Is James' Thread for his RPG Completion Quest. We are just trying to recommend some games for him to try out. It isnt for you to list all the games you have completed.


I now have no respect for RaNKeri.

[RaNkeri]

I now have no respect for RaNKeri.

HOLY SHIT! DOES THAT MEAN THERE'S NO REASON FOR ME TO LIVE ANYMORE!? :wah

[Emu]

Neverwinter Nights is a good PC RPG. One of my favorites.

[James]

Neverwinter Nights is a good PC RPG. One of my favorites.

Our store has a B1G1 Free sale going on, and I was going to buy that if I could find something to get free. So I decided I'd get a Risk/Axis & Allies 2-pack, but my manager closed the registers before I could buy them.

I was gonna go back there today and buy them, but someone just called asking me to work, so I have to pretend I'm dead until Thursday. :(



Magic Pengel is a great idea with horrible, horrible execution. The entire world of the game takes place in the following areas;

1) Open feild with a shanty.
2) Docks-like area with a few stands.
3) Busy cluttered marketplace with Engrish signs.
4) Entrance to the main battle arena.

Fighting in the main battle arena improves you standings in the royal tournament, and each battle you win there gets you a new Part Pallete and a level increase to your Pengel (the thing you draw with). You can also do regular battles, which are there for you to collect more color gems, either for drawing or to trade for gold at a 2:1 exchange.

And what's the point of gold? Well, near-everyone has their own Doodles to sell. So if you want, you can buy pre-made ones instead of making your own. Nevermind that the only fun you may really have is drawing your own guys, but the pre-mades suck and you'll just be messing with them anyway. You can also buy different paintbrushes (thin, square, very thick), but most of the time you'll stick with the standard brush anyway. Really, the only reason to worry about money is to get some secret item in the game that probably sucks anyway.

Story sucks too. Two little kids live in shanty and the government wants to take the land and they are EEEEEEVILLLLL. The dad is dead but the kids refuse to believe it and a Doodle shows up made by their dad and he tells them he's dead and they still don't believe it. All told through needlessly long cutscenes that take place after each tournament battle, with awkward music and grating voice acting.

There's also a moment where you need to turn 4000 Blue Gems into medicine for a Doodle that got sick somehow for some reason out of nowhere. Which I wish I had known before I sold my gems for gold. So I spent the next hour doing regular battles, hoping the gems I would be awarded would be Blue Gems. And you know what? My first regular battle after scrounging up enough gems? I win 6000 Blue Gems. Fuck you, Magic Pengel.

Thankfully, the game appears to be short. If I didn't bother with regular battles to get gold to buy paintbrushes, I might have finished this entire game in about 10 hours.

But the game had so much promise. Draw your own guys to fight with, where each color, size, and shape determines stats and attacks? That's pretty fucking awesome. On the other hand, that means you can't always make something you WANT, because it may not result in a capable fighting... thing.

Once I redo my Doodles (suck), I should take some shitty off-the-tv pictures to show here.

[Shifty]

Tales of symphonia. i know its for GBA and NGC, but im not sure what else.

[James]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!


Truly, a moving moment in any video game.

The game nears the end as you finally get access to a castle, and go up flight after flight of stairs, killing giant Doodle bosses in a guantlet. Thankfully, if you die, you don't have to start all over.

But this moment just really makes it clear how luck is the biggest factor in the game. It's Rock-Paper-Scissors combat setup has variations (Charge/healing, the effects of magic), but it still comes down to picking the right action that trumps your enemy's. Even a weak enemy can take out your whole team by a string of luck. I got to the last boss guy, and he beat me when I was so close to killing him. Went back and killed him, and now I'm almost positive I'm at the end boss now.


Edit: Oh boy. If there's one thing I hate, it's when games break their own rules to make ridiculously cheap enemies to provide "challenge."

1) In this game, you have Attack, Block, Magic, and Charge. Boss ALSO has Special, which can't be countered/beaten, is invulnerable, and takes a chunk of your life.
2) Beat Boss? Boss comes back with 1 Hit Point left.
3) Also in this game, after you use an action, you cannot use that same action the next turn (it returns the turn after that). After Boss comes back to life, he can use these actions as many times in a row as he likes, making it harder for you to counter/beat his attacks. And by the time you beat him, you're on your last Doodle with only a sliver of life left. Did I mention he has attacks that can clear 2/3 of your HP in a single blow?


Suggestions for my next RPG, from my list?

[Mad Melvin]

Final Fantasy 8. I liked it, even though the teenage angst really got to my nerves at some point.

[James]

Finally beat that piece of shit Magic Pengel.

Moving on to new game. :)

Here are my ideas;

Final Fantasy X-2 - I'm almost done with this, actually. But I stopped playing as I got closer to the hardest boss in the game. Once I beat him, and beat the game, I can go through again super-fast to get 100%

Final Fantasy 8 - I liked this game, and got all the way to the final disc. I'll start over though since it's been years since I last played. I want to figure out a strategy that has me gaining as few levels as possible, since the enemies increase in level as you do (but they can break your HP limit and have better stats than you could dream of). Or I could just play through, level up all the way, and proceed to kick ass just like I did last time.

Only problem is I need to find a place to re-hang my cloth map. AND I'd want to figure out the best way to get the best rules for Triple Triad in all regions.

Secret of Mana 2 - It sucks, and it's at a point where I need to grind for a long time to get strong enough to offset the stiff controls resulting in my constant rape. I'm near the end of this game too, but the difficulty just ramped up so it hasn't been easy getting through.

Final Fantasy 6 - I'd start over again, playing it on the PSX this time. This is the best RPG ever, so I have no problems with that. I COULD just load up the last save on my SNES cart where everyone's at level 99, and all I have to do is beat the game. But I love this game so much, that I want to experience the story again. HOWEVER, they ARE releasing a new edition of FF6 for the GBA, with new additions. So I might hold off to see what happens there.


So yeah, name some of your own suggestions, or pick one from this list above. Give me a good enough reason to play it. >:

[Zomboid]

Play through FF6 again anyway. I'm doing that right now too and I'll probably play that new GBA version a couple months after it's released too.

If not, play Terranigma for SNES. It's either a sequel or prequel to Illusion of Gaia. Can't remember which.

[James]

Shouldn't that mean I play Illusion of Gaia first?

I was at the final boss in that game, but I could never beat them. :( I also never bothered going to the special place that opens up when you find all the gems.

[Zomboid]

Ok well as it turns out, Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, and Terranigma are a loosely tied trilogy, in that order, but not acknowledged as such by the company...According to the wikipedia article they share the same themes and some of the same places and characters but not a continuining storyline, so you can play em in any order but it'd probably be best to start with soul blazer.

I got kinda far in Illusion but never finished it. Maybe after ff6 I'll play through those 3 :O

[Mad Melvin]

Final Fantasy 8 - I liked this game, and got all the way to the final disc. I'll start over though since it's been years since I last played. I want to figure out a strategy that has me gaining as few levels as possible, since the enemies increase in level as you do (but they can break your HP limit and have better stats than you could dream of).

That might work, but i'm pretty sure you need to have full levels on all characters by the time you reach the last boss.

[James]

OK, so I bought NWN - Platinum. Only to find out there's a NWN - Diamond for $6 more.

But looking up info on if it's worth getting Diamond instead, I'm reading some stuff about copy protection. I've heard of malware being used to prevent copying, whilst fucking up your system. Does NWN have this or not? I can't find a definitive answer?

[Emu]

I don't know anything about that, but Diamond's probably not worth it. It doesn't add much material, and what it does add is unforutnately unfinished, and none of it is necessary to playing the game. You're fine with just Platinum.

[James]

I have decided that my next RPG will be...

Paper Mario - N64

Will be playing it starting late this week. Right now, I'm halfway through Sly 3, so I wanna wrap that baby up.

[Emu]

Have you played the other Paper Mario games yet?

[Guitar Woman]

Fire Emblem

[executioneer]

Hittin the Ol' Dick with a Hammer 2

[Emu]

Oh man, you haven't finished Tactics yet? You gotta do that one >:

[Guitar Woman]

Dragon Quest 8

[Emu]

i hated dragon quest 5 because your character can get married in it and my girlfriend got mad at me when i did

[Supafly345]

WTF your furry girlfriend is nuts

[James]

Have you played the other Paper Mario games yet?

No. Paper Mario for Gamecube just went down in price, so I can finally buy that. Best Buy had it for $10 a year or so ago, but all the fucking stores were sold out. And I just bought Superstar Saga for GBA, still shrinkwrapped.

Fire Emblem

Too expensive.

Oh man, you haven't finished Tactics yet? You gotta do that one >:

Eventually. Basically, I think I'll play and beat Paper Mario, then play and beat Donkey Kong 64 so I can put my N64 away again.

Dragon Quest 8

Absolutely refuse to play any Dragon Quest/Warrior games again, on account that they are some of the worst games ever made, and only dumb faggots who don't know any better play them.

[Guitar Woman]

Fire Emblem

Too expensive.
If I meant Path of Radiance I would have said Path of Radiance. I'm talking about the first one, for the NES. It's really fun.
http://www.coolrom.com/roms/nes/876/Fire_Emblem.php

Dragon Quest 8

Absolutely refuse to play any Dragon Quest/Warrior games again, on account that they are some of the worst games ever made, and only dumb faggots who don't know any better play them.
Yeah but 8 is supposed to be awesome and not like the other DQ games, kind of like RE4 compared to the rest of the Resident Evils.

Or so I'm told.

[Emu]

Except that all of the previous REs were good.

[executioneer]

well not to jamesman jamesman doesn't like "tank controls"

[Guitar Woman]

I hate how people are always bitching about RE's control scheme, because it was actually not very annoying at all and people who can't use it just suck.

[Guitar Woman]

Also, James doesn't like videogames very much and generally has really bad taste in them

[James]

Path of Radience is too expensive, too. If I'm going to buy a game I'm not sure I'll like, I don't wanna spend more than $20 if possible. The original GBA game is around $30 Used on eBay (fucking Nintendo). There's another GBA game for $20, so maybe that one. But are they all part of an overall story? It'd kind of suck to jump into one game and not know what the fuck. :/

[Guitar Woman]

I think they're all different stories set in the same world, but I don't really know for sure because I've only played the first two, and those were in Japanese so I didn't know what the fuck was going on. But they were really fun, and if the new ones are anything like the NES games then I highly reccomend checking them out.

Also:
http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/323/Fire_Emblem.html
http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/461/Fire_Emblem.html

[James]

Terrible news, folks. :(

It turns out I do not own the strategy guide for Paper Mario, so I cannot play the game. I am working on rectifying this, as well as obtaining a strategy guide for DK64. In the meantime, I have chosen a new game to play.

Final Fantasy Tactics


In unrelated news, I found out that Syberia II uses Starforce, so I will never get to play that game. :(

[executioneer]

It turns out I do not own the strategy guide for Paper Mario, so I cannot play the game.

what the fuck is wrong with you

[James]

What do you mean? :(

[Guitar Woman]

He means how fucking retarded are you that you need a strategy guide to play Paper Mario, because you do not need a strategy guide to play Paper Mario. Christ, Kirby's Dreamland is more complicated than Paper Mario.

[James]

I don't need it. I want it. Hell, if I was ever really troubled by something, I could just use GameFAQs.

I just sometimes enjoy having a strategy guide to look at.

[Guitar Woman]

so you buy strategy guides for no real reason, then complain about not having enough money to buy games?

[Emu]

Speaking of strategy guides, they're still selling FF8 guides brand new at Barnes and Noble. Crazy shit.

[James]

so you buy strategy guides for no real reason, then complain about not having enough money to buy games?

I'd rather spend the money on something I'm guaranteed to enjoy. I can't just go buy a brand new game for $30-$40 and hope I like it.

That said, I'm about 4 hours into FF Tactics, which includes two story-driven battles and two random battles. I forgot how long and hard this game can be. Like, I like how the last people on my team to act are Chemists, who revive my main guy who MUST survive or else it's game over, then the enemies have their turn and just re-kill him.

But I think I'm doing pretty good. I've got the bulk of my team up to around level 4, and I may pick up one or two more characters and work on them a little (if I can, since bringing a new Level 1 into even the initial battles can mean instant death). But I'm developing my jobs and skills fairly quickly. It's fun, just difficult. I think that's why I stopped playing in the first place; I got to this douche of a boss who raped my team over and over, until I finally lucked out and killed him.

Difficulty's no big deal, so long as it doesn't get ridiculous. I'd like to think that the introductory parts are just horribly imbalanced, and things will shape up better once my guys improve. I think the biggest problem here is that they overcomplicated the game. They don't give you enough of an idea on if you have a direct line of sight, and you have to commit to movement before you can attack, so you can't tell if where you're moving will be a good position to attack from. Then you have the zodiac compatability, monster raising, job propositions, having to desperately try and save a character from oblivion, earning EXP and Job Points through action, etc. It's just a really complex game, and probably not the best strategy game to start off with (FF Tactics is the only tactical RPG I've ever played).

[Emu]

If you're having trouble raising weak characters, just put Equip Change on them and enter a random battle. Beat all the enemies but one, and then whack the last one into submission (It works best with Animal types, like those cat-things, because they run) and have the weak character unequip their sword attack one of your stronger characters. They get great EXP and JP for it.

[James]

I keep levelling up jobs that I'm not using (or their abilities) and gaining no Job Points to learn new abilities with for the jobs I am using OR the jobs I'm levelling up. :(

I also bought a new ho. And all my guys are in the level 4 and 5 range, except for said ho who only got 30EXP in the last battle. But I'm working along the job tree. I have my main guy as a Monk with Spin Fist, a former Chemist-turned-Priest, a Squire with black magic, a dedicated Chemist, two Squires mulling about, and the ho (Squire).

I really need to read the instructions for this game again, because I really don't know what the fuck.

[Guitar Woman]

so you buy strategy guides for no real reason, then complain about not having enough money to buy games?

I'd rather spend the money on something I'm guaranteed to enjoy. I can't just go buy a brand new game for $30-$40 and hope I like it.
there's an easy way to find out if something's good it starts with "g" and ends with "amespot"

Also, if you're that much of a cheap bastard you can just get a GBA emulator and download the Fire Emblem roms.

[James]

there's an easy way to find out if something's good it starts with "g" and ends with "amespot"

Also, if you're that much of a cheap bastard you can just get a GBA emulator and download the Fire Emblem roms.

You can't always trust reviews. More to the point, it comes down to personal tastes. A great game can still not be something you like. I don't like Halo, for example.

And I don't do illegal things like that. >:

[Emu]

I would suggest making Ramza (or whatever you named him) powered up as far as he can go with Squire before moving onto another job. If you complete a convoluted series of events later in the game you can learn Ultima with him.

[Guitar Woman]

there's an easy way to find out if something's good it starts with "g" and ends with "amespot"

Also, if you're that much of a cheap bastard you can just get a GBA emulator and download the Fire Emblem roms.

You can't always trust reviews. More to the point, it comes down to personal tastes. A great game can still not be something you like. I don't like Halo, for example.

And I don't do illegal things like that. >:
That's it, I fucking give up. You are either hopeless when it comes to gaming or you will make any lame ass excuse to get out of playing a nintendo game, and either way I hope all of your consoles burst into flame and then leap at your testicles and burrow into your skin.

[James]

Because I don't want to engage in illegal activities and because I don't want to blindly purchase games for large amounts of money? :(

I'll look into the NES game, and if I actually end up liking it, then it would make sense to move onto the GBA games and possibly the Gamecube game, which by that time, MAY be at $20 is Nintendo can afford it. I just won't be playing any of these soon because FF Tactics is like a 5000 hour game.

[Guitar Woman]

Alright then, jeeze.

Also, if you like FF Tactics, chances are you'll like Fire Emblem as well, so there is no real reason to be afraid of shelling out 30 bucks and then not liking it.

[James]

Alright then, jeeze.

Also, if you like FF Tactics, chances are you'll like Fire Emblem as well, so there is no real reason to be afraid of shelling out 30 bucks and then not liking it.

It's hard to say if I like FF Tactics though. I will try Fire Emblem for the NES though, at some point.

Anyway, I ended up levelling Ramza to Level 7, and my Priest to Level 6. Everyone else is at Level 5 except for Delita and Algus who are at Level 2, and my ho who is at Level 3.

I got Ramza's Squire to Level 5, so I want to change him to a Knight for now. This so-called quest is nowhere near the start of the game, right? I think I'm allowed to pick a better class to help out with upcoming battles. Ramza also hits like a brick shithouse now and it all decked out in Knight gear.

I also changed a regular Squire into an Archer with Black Magic spells. I'm leaving all my other Squires as is, because I can't really afford to deck them out if they change jobs. I'd like another Knight-come-Monk, and eventually a female Thief, but those aren't in the cards.

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Oh holy shit I just realized there are multiple lists for each job. Here I thought there were only four abilities for Squire but there's like 3 other pages of varying types of skills. And they're awesome skills like Counter Tackle and JP Up and fosadhosdosd

I'm sad now.

[James]

UPDATE

Ramza is now level 11, and almost a level 8 Squire with all skills learned. Every character has learned JP Up now, and almost all of them have Counter Tackle (except for my level 8 Priest who has Weapon Guard). All my other characters are between 5 and 7, with the guest characters all weak and faggy.

I'm almost 9 hours in, and have only done 3 battle maps )one of which being the fight against the thieves). So I'm probably on the way to overpowering myself. But you know what? I went into the forest and got slaughtered by skeletons so there's no such thing as overpowering.

[Emu]

Enemies in random battles level up with you, so all of the random enemies you fight will be as strong as your strongest character. The enemies in plot battles don't level up, however.

Edit: Also, I recommend stealing Algus' Battle Boots and putting them on your chemist or white mage.

[Emu]

This thread got me into playing it again. >: Ramza with Yell and Accumulate is like sex on wheels.

Edit: Would it be wrong to kill Delita so he stops ganking the spirit crystals?

[James]

Crystals suck anyway. But yeah, the computer-controlled allies suck.

So, hey. Can you level up a job after you've learned all the skills? Because I have a Level 7 Squire who mastered all the abilities, and I don't know if the points he's getting are raising his level or not. :(

Also, I love my Priest and all, but it sure would be nice if the success rate of Protect/Shell/Wall were higher. Not because I need them right now, but he doesn't get any JP when he fucks up. It also would be nice if I could get the last few MP I need in his bar so he can cast Holy.

Also, I fucking jacked up Ramza. He's a Monk again, with Equip Armor and Guts. He's untouchable, and with Accumulate and Repeating Fist, he can pretty much one-punch any enemy.

[Emu]

As for job levels: Yes, he will continue to level up.

And if you want your success rate to be higher, there's a skill for some mage class like Turbo MP where it uses more MP, but the effects of the spell are better.

[James]

I have to say, I'm having a lot of fun just grinding in this game. Constantly learning new skills and changing jobs. Even though the enemies level up with me, I'm tearing the shit out of them and it's fun.

I think it just goes to show how much better I am at games nowadays. I bought this used for $15 years ago (back when it was going for quite a bit due to rarity), and I found myself finding it hard and tedious. But now, I'm really getting a feel for it and have a much better understanding of RPGs as a whole.

Although I can't seem to get Propositions. Maybe they're not available until a certain point in the game? I also think I need to invest in one more person, so I'll have a group of three to send off on jobs whilst still maintaining a primary group of 5. And I'm undecided on if I'll do any monster raising or not.

[Emu]

I don't think propositions appear until you get Mustadio on your team.

Monster raising sucks. >:

[James]

Wooooooo Lancer up in this bitch!

Too bad Spears don't exist yet, so I'm going to get some JP for Knight so I can equip him with a sword. Then I'll get Ignore Height, change back into an Archer and everyone is going to be in BIG TROUBLE.

[Emu]

I've got a character who totally sucked no matter what class I put her in. Somehow she just kind of blew. But then I made her an Archer with some Time Magic and Teleport and suddenly she's raping everything sideways, even with a shitty Longbow for a weapon.

[James]

I'm feeling like a huge badass now. I can be a Samurai if I want, but I'm sticking with Lancer until I get a few more abilities.

I'm one map away from ending Chapter 1, and I leveled my guys up a fuckton. Problem is, Ramza's at level 23 now, while everyone else is at lower levels, but random battles always raise up to the highest-level character in your group, even if you aren't using them for that battle. So MAYBE I should have Ramza sit a few out and let everyone get closer to the same level, then finish the chapter. I also want to get a highly-skilled Thief so I can steal a certain faggot's equipment. She's getting better at slutting it up, and I charmed 3 demons in my last battle.

Really, while enemies level up with you, the advantage is still in your favor, as they don't learn new skills. But at the same time, if you level up too much too early, you won't have the equipment available to you that will further increase your OWN stats to compete with tougher enemies. So I think I need to cut down on the powerleveling for now. At least until I get axes and lances and samurai swords.

Ramza is just a fucking killing machine. Monk + Armor + Accumulate = Unstoppable. My Priest even has Holy AND finally has the MP to use it. My Chemist learned Elixer and Remedy, and I have a new Squire I'm working up slowly but surely.

The game starts off with such a tough difficulty curve, but once you learn abilities and job classes, it becomes so much easier. I just hope that holds out throughout the game.

I also have to say that the Job System for this game is the best in any Final Fantasy game. Only FFX-2 comes close, but it doesn't have the same level of customization, just the ease of use. FF5's was customizable to a degree, but required WAY too much tedium in gaining job levels.

[Emu]

The game starts off with such a tough difficulty curve, but once you learn abilities and job classes, it becomes so much easier. I just hope that holds out throughout the game.

It doesn't. There's a certain boss battle in Chapter 3 (I think) where you can get stuck inside a succession of plot battles if you're not smart enough to save outside of it. (I'm at this battle now, since I've been doing basically nothing but playing this for the past three days; I've got Ramza as a Samurai with 2-Handed Grip and Guts and I still can't get past this guy.) What I'm saying is: Make two save files.

[James]

I actually do have two saves; One on each card. I found one of my cards completely empty, and I honestly can't tell if there was some sort of error, or if I just deleted them all and forgot about it (I have backups of some PSX saves on my PS2 cards). So I'm saving on each card to see if something happens.

I'm just saying, the difficulty the game starts off on is really rough on a bunch of new guys with no skills learned. But being able to eventually branch of and customize your characters really makes things easier on you. Sure, you may still face some enemies that will piss you off, but the overall game is easier to work with.

Also, I have an unbelievable amount of money. So much so, I can max out all my items and buy one of each weapon and armor type currently available for every character in my party.

[Emu]

That was weird. I got into a random fight in the Zeklaus Desert and encountered a lone Knight and a lone Bull Demon. The Knight was a Guest on my team apparently, and not only that, he had incredible equipment (stuff that won't be available to me for four or five plot battles yet) and he was level 50. The Bull Demon was level 48 or so. Ramza is only level 39 on my game. The Knight was dealing about 300 damage a hit and the Bull Demon was dealing about that much to him. I ended up defeating the Bull Demon and I was hoping maybe the Knight would join my team, but he didn't. :(

[James]

You should have had a decked-out Thief steal all his shit.

[timrpgland]

Ninjas are truly my favorite in FFT.

The last play through I managed to get through the whole deep dungeon. That was quite fun and not as difficult as I thought it would be. I got most of the treasure but a couple of the not-so-awesome ones are gone forever.

Stealing all the Genji Equipment off of Elmdor was a enjoyable accomplishment as well. The Genji stuff isn't that awesome but it's "rare" at least.

[Emu]

You should have had a decked-out Thief steal all his shit.

It was good, but it wasn't THAT good. I'll be able to buy that stuff soon.

Besides, can you even steal from guests?

[James]

I thought so. :(

I finally decided to move on to Chapter 2. I got a spear now. :) And I can do propositions. I got a... Wyvule? Wyluve? Wooloovvvvve? Wyuvle. It's awesome.

TREASURE HUNTER LEVEL 1 BABY!

I was talking to my friend last night, and he reminded me of all the special characters you get, and how it's not worth building up all my guys right now, because sooner or later I won't even be using them anymore. Damn him for being right. :(

But I'm keeping my Lancer of Ultimate Destruction and my Priest of Kicking of Asses, and my Chemist of Knowing Every Fucking Skill. But I'm not worrying too much about levelling now.

I also took all of Gafgarion's items and gave them to my knight. Fuck him.

[Emu]

You too, huh? Don't forget to steal his Blood Sword later. That thing's pretty sexy on a knight.

[James]

I stole Agrias' stuff and gave to Ramza too. And I stole Ovelia's robe and gave it to my priest.

I also have a Black Chocobo now. But I think I'm going to get rid of him before he steals all my items for drug money and then contributes nothing to society.

Is there such a thing as too high a Brave stat? I know if Faith gets too high, your guys leave to join the church. But if Brave gets too high, does something happen?

[Guitar Woman]

It's like you guys are speaking a whole other language or something!

[Emu]

Is there such a thing as too high a Brave stat? I know if Faith gets too high, your guys leave to join the church. But if Brave gets too high, does something happen?

Not that I'm aware of, except that I think you take more damage from physical attacks (but you also deal more damage, so.) But I know that having too LOW a brave turns you into a chicken. Literally.

But there are benefits to having low brave. Low brave ups the success rate of the Move-Find Item ability.

Edit: Then again, the only people I've had with maxed brave are my plot characters. (My Ramza has 95 now :eek )

Speaking of Ramza, I have him as a Samurai with Two-Handed Grip and a Katana and he's dealing ~500 damage on a rear hit.

[Emu]

Katanas appear to suck on any class not meant to use them. >: I had two Kikuichimojis (the third strongest Katana in the game) on my Ninja and they were doing 40-50 less damage than the third or forth best Ninja sword I had on her before.

[Emu]

James, you have Legend of Dragoon, right? Have you played that one at all? I realized I have it but I've never played it.

[Fathom Zero]

I you have a Weapon Guard passive ability, or something equivalent to that, Brave influences it. The higher the Brave, the higher percentage of blocked attacks. I love it when they attack my monks and they have Hamedo. Priceless... :)

[James]

James, you have Legend of Dragoon, right? Have you played that one at all? I realized I have it but I've never played it.

Played a demo years ago, and I remembered kind of liking it. A long time after, it was a greatest hits title for $15, and I bought it. Never played it though.

[Emu]

My mom picked it up at a garage sale a few years ago but I never played it. I picked it up today, and I must say that it has some of the best CGI graphics for a PSX game I've seen, and some of the worst music. >:

[Jeff The Ninja]

Good CG's, Yes. But its too bad the game sucks Eskimo Balls.

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Super Mario RPG
Chrono Trigger
Breath of Fire II
Shining Force
:(

[James]

Two of those, I beat, and one of them sucked.

BoF2 would probably be better played after the first one, which I might as well look into. Shining Force, I know jack shit about.

[Gurlugon]

Too lazy to look through this thread, but how was Threads of Fate? I remember playing the OPM demo of it and it was pretty damned fun.

[Emu]

I've come to the conclusion that with LoD they tried to make an anime into a game. A lot of the stuff is really flashy and unnecessary and seems to detract from the graphics quality of the rest of the game. I mean, fuck, this game was released in 2000, and the graphics during battles and on people are really sub-par. They're somewhere between FF7 and FF8, and it's not a good place.

And they have this sick obsession with making me fight two bosses in a row and not giving me a save in between. >:

[James]

I'm kind of at a snag for FF Tactics. :/

I want to do the Propositions and get all the extras, because that's the kind of guy I am. Problem is it's hard figuring out where new ones show up. I just got Adventurer Level 2, and 3 new Props showed up in Goug. Which I only found out by going all the way back over there to check (after re-checking 3 other towns along the way). It wouldn't be so bad, except for the battles you fight during travel and racking up days to complete a job. And I believe some jobs are only available at certain times of the year in the game, which makes it worse.

I have a list of all the jobs and rewards, but no timeline in which the jobs will be available. It's just a little not fun. I wanna get on with the story. :(

[Emu]

I just wait til the end of the game to do all the propositions (except the events that get you Cloud.) What's your next plot battle?

[James]

I get that astrologer guy that rapes the rest of the game in the ass.

I also forgot to mention; Circuit City had a Memorial Day sale on some games being $10, including Dragon Quest VIII.

I pricematched at Best Buy and bought it. And thus the icy shell that once encased my heart melts a little, as I let my guard down and attempt one last go at a relationship with the series.

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Two of those, I beat, and one of them sucked.

BoF2 would probably be better played after the first one, which I might as well look into. Shining Force, I know jack shit about.
Actually, they are indirect sequels, much like the Final Fantasy games, and please don't bother because the second BOF is not that great. The first is alright. Also, tactics is kinda like Shining Force in that it is a strategy RPG.

[Emu]

I like this thread, so I'm going to bump it with some inane shit. >:

LoD has gotten a lot more bearable. The battle system is a little gay at first, but once you get used to it it's not so bad. Aside from that, I've noticed a shitload of translation errors that would not have bothered a younger me. >:

[timrpgland]

I also forgot to mention; Circuit City had a Memorial Day sale on some games being $10, including Dragon Quest VIII.

I pricematched at Best Buy and bought it. And thus the icy shell that once encased my heart melts a little, as I let my guard down and attempt one last go at a relationship with the series.

You won't regret it.

[James]

We'll see... some day.

I'm at 41 hours in FFT. I did a few more Props, but I'm not going to keep scouring the map finding out if new ones became available anymore. As long as there aren't any I can miss permanently, I'll be fine.

I'm trying to round out my characters with some more abilities and some new direction, but it's actually a bit rough. The Save Olan mission had to be redone like 3 times, because I couldn't get that faggot to stop dying. :/ I mean, Ramza was my fastest character that killed everyone in a single attack. Now he's a Lancer and isn't nearly as threatening. And my Ninja is now a Thief, and he's fast and moves far, but he's weak. And so on. I mean, I COULD just change back to my powerhouses, but the point is to round out my character abilities to make them even stronger for later on in the game. :/

[timrpgland]

Man, I should boot up my old continue and see what kind of party I had. FFT is awesome. I know after finishing the deep dungeon I didn't give Byblos a chance but maybe it's a awesome character.

[Emu]

It's an awesome character if you ignore the fact that monsters just can't hold a candle to humans.

[timrpgland]

Yeah but that doesn't really matter since you become all too powerful once you max out in the game anyways. You could use 2-3 characters just as fillers and still wipe everything out with ease.

I was always a big fan of Mustadio just because. He may not be the greatest but he's definately cool in my book. Beowulf is one of my favorite named characters also.

[Emu]

God's sake, Legend of Dragoon is translated even worse than FFT.

Girl: "What are you doing, Fester?" (Translation: "What do you do for a job?")

A choice menu pops up, prompting me to answer for Fester:

"He is from royalty."
"He is a governor."

I chose the governor answer.

Fester: "Yes, I am a governor, and that is good because I can get into the castle freely."

Girl: "Aw, that is boring. Could you give a better answer than that?"

[James]

That game sounds awesome now.

[Emu]

I'm on the second disc now and, like FFT, the translations are only getting worse as time goes on. The game started fine, but the more you play, the worse it gets.

[James]

I am having a love affair with stealing things. Steal this, steal that. Flippy floo.

There's just some really awesome things you can steal, you know?

Also, I prolonged a couple battles now to see if I got any good crystals. And I DID get one from a summoner. Agrias is a summoner right now (Holy Sword can fuck off), and she nabbed Ifrit, Titan, and Fire 2 from a single crystal. And then she had enough to learn Ramuh.

I'm looking to make some physical powerhouses here, but I need help. I have Ninjas right now that do over 200 damage, but I want more.

Also, Chapter 4 will be all about grinding. I'm gonna get all the job classes and stuff. So I'm gonna be hunting down human enemies, then dragging battles out so I can nab crystals to save some time. But I'm almost done with Chapter 3, which is amazing. I honestly never thought I'd get around to playing this game again, or even finishing it. My first playthough ended when I beat Chapter 2, and I just found it to be too hard and stupid. Now I love it.

[Emu]

What's your next plot battle?

[James]

3 in a row at Riovannes Castle

[James]

Started Chapter 4 now. I'm jealous of this dude who is playing through the game and is landing like 500damage per hit. Meanwhile, I'm barely breaking 100 and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

Sure made that second-to-last battle in Chapter 3 real fun. >: Had to restart 6 times before I actually beat it.

I do feel awesome about how far I'm getting. Here's my to-do list for Chapter 4;

1) Get all the optional characters.
2) Get Ultima.
3) Get Zodiac.
4) Do all Propositions.
5) Grind my characters up to 99 (the ones I'll use), getting as many helpful skills and jobs along the way as I can.
6) Deep Dungeon.
7) Victory.

[James]

Little update.

Once I got to Chapter 4 in FFT, I looked at all the stuff I had to do, and got a little overwhelmed. The game isn't the easiest one in the world, and all the extra sidequests and such (Deep Dungeon) is just making me anxious.

So I took some time off to play a few other games. Guitar Hero, Ultimate Spider-Man, Tony Hawk's American Wasteland. Things like that.

But it looks like I'll be playing the game again, before I forget EVERYTHING. I just don't know how to handle it all. Deep Dungeon sounds like a pain in the ass, but I really want to do it. :(

I also recently remembered that I was near the end of Seiken Densetsu 3, which was a slightly unfun sequel to Secret of Mana. I stopped playing because I got sidetracked, and I was at the point where the game takes a sharp increase in difficulty.

So now I can't remember too much about what's going on IN the game, so I'll be reading up a little bit on that again, and playing that once in a while, if I can. Since it's a ROM, it's easier to just pick up and play for a few minutes.


That's two hard games I'm trying to play at once. :(

[Zomboid]

Huh? I got LoD when it first came out and liked it a lot. Translations really are terrible but I had a lot of fun with it. Might've been cause if it really did come out in 2000 I'd have been like 13-14 but I still liked it :O

Oh, and the worst translation fuck up in the entire game was when that annoying chick with the mallet said "mell of a hess" instead of hell of a mess. That made me turn it off and do something else for a bit.

[timrpgland]

The most annoying part of the deep dungeon isn't the enemies but the luck involved in trying to get each treasure on each floor. Of course you can increase the success of getting them but that doesn't always work out.

I enjoyed playing through SD3 and thought it was quite fun. It has a decent amount of difficulty but nothing that a little leveling doesn't fix.

[Guitar Woman]

Play Shadow Hearts: From the New World. It's really good. ;<

[James]

I enjoyed playing through SD3 and thought it was quite fun. It has a decent amount of difficulty but nothing that a little leveling doesn't fix.

I don't know. I left off at the part where I go to fight the Shadow Dragon or something. Everything before that was fairly easy, despite the the glitchy controls.

But now the enemies just seem a lot tougher, which makes for a problem with the herky-jerky battles. Attacks not working, delayed damage recognition, glitches where enemies get hurt but are still attacking. It all adds up really fast to my guys being taken out in a few seconds at times.

Maybe it's just the rom but the game really is glitchy as hell.

Play Shadow Hearts: From the New World. It's really good. ;<

Which series is Shadow Hearts? I always get it confused to Digital Devil Saga.

Anyways, I'm half-interested, but it does costs money. GQD has all three games in a bundle for $100, which is a good deal. But still, $100.

[Guitar Woman]

Which series is Shadow Hearts?
Shadow Hearts :rolleyes

[Marc Summers]

He wants you to DESCRIBE it :rolleyes

[Fathom Zero]

The greatest RPG I've ever played. YOU GET TO FIGHT GOD. :eek
At least at the end, you do.

Although, finding the original is hard.
I recommend Shadow Hearts 2: Covenant if you're just getting into it. The first is heavy on the horror/gothic genre. They just keep getting sillier and sillier.

What sets it apart from most other RPGs, aside from the expansive story and the depth of the characters, is the Judgement Ring battle system. Really, it is just a fancy game of Wheel of Fortune where you have to stop the spinner in one of the designated areas to accomplish feats and get critical effects.

There is so much to do in these games, I'm still playing them. The only thing I can find similar to it is Final Fantasy VII. The game is about the same length, in case you're wondering.

[Guitar Woman]

Playable characters in SH3 include a drunken cat, a deranged ninja, a gun-fu indian, and a mariachi. You should play it, if only for that.

[timrpgland]

I'm currently running through Treasures of the Rudras. Pretty cool

[Pub Lover]

Playable characters in SH3 include a drunken cat, a deranged ninja, a gun-fu indian, and a mariachi. You should play it, if only for that.
I didn't know Silent Hill was that wacky! :eek

[Guitar Woman]

the movie totally got it wrong

[Emu]

I know this is like six months late but I just found my camera cord. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/ikrsez/Picture701.jpg

[James]

So, I have ADD.

I suddenly remembered a time when I was home sick from school, and my mom went to some tag sales. She came home with a Sega Genesis game that she thought I might enjoy; Super Hydlide.

Well, I didn't enjoy it. But I thought I might enjoy it now in delicious ROM form! It's not... AS bad, but... eh.

The game is an action RPG with some interesting elements to it. You gain EXP that you spend on levelling up OR magic spells. There are also good an bad monsters, and killing good ones lowers your Morality. There's also a weight system, where you can only carry so much before you character walks super-slow. Also, you have to eat and sleep.

Interesting concepts, but poor execution. Days are short, so you feel pretty rushed to do actual quests. Needing to eat means wasting precious space on food rations. Movement in general is pretty choppy too, and the whole game looks and sounds like it's an NES game.

The plus side is that the game is REALLY, REALLY short. I just beat the first boss, which is about halfway through the game.

So yeah. I SHOULD be able to play through this game quickly enough. Then MAYBE, I'll finally be ready to play FF Tactics again. I just can't shake the feeling of dread I have over that game. :/

[Emu]

It sounds like an NES game because Hydlide IS an NES game, and probably one of the worst ever created. You have to run into monsters and hold B to attack them, while taking damage.

[executioneer]

is it worse than Ys

[James]

It sounds like an NES game because Hydlide IS an NES game, and probably one of the worst ever created. You have to run into monsters and hold B to attack them, while taking damage.

Yes, but this is SUPER Hydlide.

It's still pretty terrible. But hey, I'm halfway through!

[executioneer]

i tried playing it on a emulator but i must be doing something wrong b/c it won't get past the character creation screen, it gives me some "unregistered" message

[Guitar Woman]

So I just started playing tales of symphonia for the gamecube. It's pretty much the worst thing ever. I hate every single cliche anime character in this game, especially colette, LOLOL GUYS I'M THE CHOSEN ONE I HAVE ANGEL WINGS AND SUCK AT EVERYTHING I'LL DO MY BEST LOL GODESS MARTEL I BEG OF YOU TO REVEAL THY GLORY ANGEL FEATHERS ATTACK LOL

Also the music makes me want to stab myself through the head and the voice acting isn't much better. The only redeeming quality about the game is the 4 person co-op mode that lets you team up with your friends, but I don't really see the point of doing it in this game when I could do it in other, better games.
so yeah, stay away from it.

[Emu]

i like tales of symphonia. :(

though tales of phantasia or whatever is supremely better.

[Guitar Woman]

now that I started it I have to finish it because that's the rules >:

[Guitar Woman]

ok, so, like, I'm about 14 hours into it now, and it has actually gotten better to the point where I am HAVING FUN with it. Also, I <3 Sheena.

[StupidNinja]

For PC only;

-Planescape torment

-Icewindale I & II

-Divine Divinity,Beyond Divinity

-Sacred

-Pool of radiance

-Blade of Severance (although more action-orientated and realtime)

and the new game Titan Quest(hack & slash RPG like diablo)

Note that the mayority of the list are with Dungeon & Dragon settings and rules.

[Marc Summers]

So I just started playing tales of symphonia for the gamecube. It's pretty much the worst thing ever. I hate every single cliche anime character in this game, especially colette, LOLOL GUYS I'M THE CHOSEN ONE I HAVE ANGEL WINGS AND SUCK AT EVERYTHING I'LL DO MY BEST LOL GODESS MARTEL I BEG OF YOU TO REVEAL THY GLORY ANGEL FEATHERS ATTACK LOL

Also the music makes me want to stab myself through the head and the voice acting isn't much better. The only redeeming quality about the game is the 4 person co-op mode that lets you team up with your friends, but I don't really see the point of doing it in this game when I could do it in other, better games.
so yeah, stay away from it.

Tales of Legendia sounds almost exactly the same :eek
Senel finds out his sister is the Merines, which is some sorta goddess thing. Then they find out that she's a leftover from some ancient (and therefore technically more advanced) civilization and would be their leader if they were still around. Then she finds out that there's some people still alive and that she's used for some big cannon thingy. She goes through some PMS "I HATE EVERYONE AND I WANT THEM TO DIE" phase and she almost activates it and then she starts crying and some stupid shit happens on top of the pile of dung that is the Tales of Legendia story.

The battles were fun, though.

[James]

Placed an order today on Amazon, that included Xenogears.

I'm at a point in Super Hydlide where I can level up once a day (in game time), and I'm powering myself up as much as I can before it gets too tedious. Right now, I'm almost at Level 20.

Basically, I wanna just tear through the rest of the game. And the best way to do that is to level up obsessively while it's super-easy, so that i can slaughter everything later in the game.

[Guitar Woman]

after about 15 hours the story and acting get like a million times better in symphonia. also lol @ 2d graphics and no co-op in legendia.

And your annoying female lead sounds nothing like mine, who is retarded and apologizes like every 5 minutes. even when she gets hurt shes all LOL SORRY, she's kind of like that guy that got shot by dick cheney and then APOLOGIZED for getting in the way of the bullets

[Marc Summers]

There weren't any 2-D graphics in Legendia. The environments were 3 dimensional. The battles took place on a 2-D plane, but used 3-D models. It's called 2.5-D.

The female lead used a pen as her weapon, in which she would draw a butterfly that would fly at the enemy and sprinkle some weird pixie dust in the hope that it may cause minor damage. She even sucked at healing.

But, my absolute favorite part of the whole game was when this he-she in my party gets his ass kicked around by his old master. Not the playful sparring type. It was more like slapping him around, then punching his face till he fell over, calling him trash like 50 times, then kicking his limp unconsious body until he woke up and started crying. The most interesting part of the game wasn't even the main story, it was the 2nd half of the game where it goes into each character's past and you're like "Oh shit, that's freaky" when you learn about it.

[Emu]

I've never heard of Legendia. :eek

But from the sounds of it, they basically just recycle the story from Tales of Phantasia over and over again.

[Guitar Woman]

wasn't phantasia about time traveling and shit?

[Juttin]

I've been re-beating Legends of Dragoon lately.

I just remembered how much it used to rule, when it's graphics were "Cutting Edge"

Also, I think it kicks ass :)

It froze right when I beat the 2nd visage, though.

Oh well, I hit 200+ and I'm like, 1/10 through Platinum Shadow

[Juttin]

Oh, and the worst translation fuck up in the entire game was when that annoying chick with the mallet said "mell of a hess" instead of hell of a mess. That made me turn it off and do something else for a bit.

I thought that was just her way of speaking :/

[James]

What's left for me to do in Super Hydlide;

-Find stupid lights
-Kill stupid boss
-Go to stupid last area of game
-Kill stupid final boss

I'm at level 22 now, so along the way I may still level up a little more, like up to level 25 just for the HP boosts.

The weight system sucks so bad. You're basically forbidden from using all the best items in the game (in particular, at the same time) because your weight allowance never gets high enough. In fact, the more you level up, the lower your weight capacity increase is. My last one was only 300, when earlier in the game, it was going up by 2000 or such. So basically, there are things like special armor and weapons that taunt you with their high power, but they're too heavy to carry. So you either sell them off for money you don't need, or you just throw them out.

[Guitar Woman]

Oh, and the worst translation fuck up in the entire game was when that annoying chick with the mallet said "mell of a hess" instead of hell of a mess. That made me turn it off and do something else for a bit.
FISSION MAILED

[Juttin]

Fission Mailed was purposely spelt that way :/

[Guitar Woman]

hey juttin you are a pretty clever guy you know that

[Juttin]

Nice avatar :rolleyes

[James]

Thanks.

[Juttin]

I agree

[James]

OK, fuck Super Hydlide.

Basically, I'm in a cave where I have to find 5 lights in order to continue onto the boss. Problem is, these lights only show up after you've walked over them.

There's essentially only two guides on the internet that provide help for this game, and NEITHER offers any info on the lights. Fuck, one doesn't even acknowledge they exist. So I'm basically running around a cave where I can only see one square ahead of me, getting attacked like crazy by enemies as I wander around a maze of corridors. In other words, it's a pain in the fucking ass.

I've found a few lights, but I can never remember where I found them when I have to reload my game on account of dying from enemy rape.

It really makes me wonder how video gaming survived with so much shit floating around out there. Honestly, the ratio between decent-to-great games and shitty games is a lot nicer now than it was 10+ years ago.


I GUESS it's possible to find the lights and then find the boss' lair on my own, but it's such a frustrating thing, I may just toss my hands up and tell this game to fuck itself.

[Juttin]

I wanted to play LoD last night, so I did, and I got to the part where you fight the fake princess.

Anyways, I had her in the red, when she did 2 special "Rape" attacks back to back without a pause, and wiped out my whole party in one attack series. And that was the first time I've ever died in this game >:

[Guitar Woman]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/reviews/1076/Tales_of_Legendia.html
loo :(

[timrpgland]

I have been marching through the SNES Ogre Battle. Had to use some air in a can but I finally got the game to work. I just finished map 7. I don't remember ever beating this game. I think Ogre Battle 64 is better but this one is fun. It's been a while since I played a Ogre game though, does anyone remember how the alignment system works in this one?

[kahljorn]

it's a pretty gay alignment system. If you kill people weakerthan you your alignmentdrops,if you kill retreating enemies your alignment drops.Pretty much the opposite for raising it.

[timrpgland]

No wonder... My alignment and charisma of my main character is 0.. He slaughters too much but I'm not going to change that so oh well.

[James]

fasfsdfasd

[Emu]

Have you played any of the Lufia games? I'm playing the second one right now and it's pretty good

[ArrowX]

Vanguard Bandits, awesome game, but I could never get past the one point where you escape from that guys castle in the desert and he sends is men after you, and you get helped by some dude in a dancing mech.

Also I've had Parasite Eve 2 for like 9 years but haven't actually beaten it. I get inside NeoArk and the game gets boring.

[Angryhydralisk]

The only RPG I wish I could beat right now is Star Ocean 2. The last boss re-defines the word HARD. Final Fantasy hasn't got shit on him.

Oh, but anywho, the RPGs I beat?

Final Fantasy 4
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy 7
Final Fantasy 9
Final Fantasy Tactics
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Suikoden
Castlevania: SotN
Castlevania: HoD
Castlevania: AoS
Castlevania: CoD
Earthbound
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Pokemon (Red, Blue, Yellow, Silver, & Gold)
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Final Fantasy Legend 3

[thebiggameover]

im about to beat Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones. want to beat it before i get a 360 on friday and never use my gba player again...

[timrpgland]

I beat FFXII last week. Very good game that unfortunately builds itself up for nothing. :(

[executioneer]

i'm getting close to beating might and magic 6 again

fuckin kreegan hive i gotta make like a million divine magic potiosn and i just don't have the yellow herbs >:

[ArrowX]

my list so far

FF3
Parasite Eve
Vanguard Bandits
FF7
FF9

and thats it >:

most RPG's aren't worth my time

[Esuohlim]

It's getting close to Earthbound time for me again. Hey ArrowX why don't you try Earthbound because I don't like a lot of RPGs myself and this game is awesome-o

[timrpgland]

Earthbound is so overrated guys (me 4-5 years ago).



That game has a strange history for me. I remember not liking it when it came out and beating down my friend's cousin for thinking it was cool. I only began to appreciate it when I played it again as a adult.... it's normally the opposite.


I'm working on NWN2 but I don't know, I just can't seem to get into it that much. At least not as much as the first one.

I want another KOTOR badly and DQIX was anounced for the DS. Can't wait.

[Esuohlim]

What turns me off about RPGs is that most of them have a medieval theme that I'm not too crazy about, what with armor, swords, magic, castles, and stuff. Earthbound is great because you're kids in the '90s going through actual cities with pizza shops and department stores and trying destroy aliens, creepy cults, possessed tents, and hieroglyphics. :(

[Lenor]

hahha.. I could quite possiably top that list by tripple amount of games ive played and beat.. but no need to show off.. haha..


anyways.. best RPG EVER .. FF7 ..

[ArrowX]

Earthbounds combat system is what turned me off, It was great up until I actualy fought something then, I thought to myself that "this is shit, I'm on a SNES here" >: I found out later that it was a Famicon game so I may try it again with that in mind.

[Pub Lover]

Esuohlim told me to play Earthbound, so I did, but I stopped when they turned into robots because Cybermen have always scared me.

Anyone played Dragon Quest VIII? When does this game stop being super easy & annoying?

[timrpgland]

Dragon Quest VIII is pretty much always easy although the added dungeon adds a little value. That game is more about length... If you think it's annoying though, I can't relate. Big fan of that game all the way through.



Trode is the man.

[Pub Lover]

If you think it's annoying though, I can't relate.
Annoying that I can't upgrade Jessica's defense without her over-ample chest bursting out everywhere, & while I can take out any monster with the other three, having to waste mp resuscitating her is annoying. :(

[timrpgland]

Well, you'll have to deal I guess or stop playing. How far are you? Took me something like 90 hours to finish the game.

[Pub Lover]

I've unlocked the ship, so now I'm going around eveywhere to check that I've found all the minimedals before moving onto the west continent.

[Angryhydralisk]

One thing that amuses me about Square games (Except a dire handful) and post Square-Enix Enix games is the difficulty...If those games had selectable difficulties'd probably resemble something like the following:

-Pussy
-Wimp
-Very, VERY easy

and the super-unlockable

-Mildly challenging, yet still insulting difficulty

[timrpgland]

That can be said for alot of RPGs not just Square games. The RPG genre isn't generally known for its difficulty.

[Emu]

If you want an RPG to be hard, try going through it with one character. :rolleyes

[SLjimbolian]

Final Fantasy VI, VII, VIII, X
Suikoden I, II, III
Parasite Eve
Final Fantasy Tactics (PS1)
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Secret of Mana 2 (Seiken Desentu III)
Illusion of Gaia