PS3 hits US November 17, $499 for 20GB version, $599 for 60G

[Drunkenbrigade]

Pretty steep price but I still plan on getting one on launch. (the 20 Gb one at least.)

It wasn't really as bad as some people thought it was gonna end up costing us. And also, it's pretty funny how they are releasing a Second wireless controller that alot of people are comparing to Nintendo's Wii. I guess they think the rang' controller won't be enough. :/

Here is the link: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149470.html

[Emu]

Fuck you, Sony.

[Fathom Zero]

Jumping Jesus Christ On a Pogo Stick, I'll never be able to afford one at launch. I suspect Microsoft will drop the 360's price either before or after the PS3's launch, so I'll be getting one of those.

[James]

As long as you can upgrade the system at a later date, I'll buy the 20GB. I don't see needing a 60GB, but if I do, I'd like to just do a switch out.

$500 seems about right on with most speculation. I think a lot of people were hoping for lower though. If it was $300 - $400 at most - Sony would probably have the upper hand this year.

I still wanna get one at launch, but I'm concerned that I'll be supporting a trend and telling game companies it's OK to keep going higher and higher with prices. I don't want the PS4 to be $700 or something. :(

[Marc Summers]

I've never bought systems on launch. I usually wait until the first price drop. When I got my PS2 sometime after the first price drop, there was another price drop within 30 days after I bought it so I got some money back from Best Buy when I went back and showed them my receipt :love

[DeadKennedys]

Utterly ridiculous *dusts off SNES*

If I'm paying $500+ to play the games, the PS3 better give me a handjobs, fix me lunc, and wash my car.

[thebiggameover]

i think its because the 360 didnt sell in aisa, and sony is all "we can charge whatever we want because these japs will buy it no matter what". looks like ill be getting a wii, xbox 1, and ps2 before i get a ps3.....

[Emu]

Sony ARE the Japs, man.

[thebiggameover]

i know but still, why must i suffer just cause im in the usa? :easytarget

[AChimp]

You know what's great about PCs? You can always get decent technology for the exact same price, all the time. :)

The Cell processor and Blu-ray is what's making the PS3 so expensive, and from what I've been reading, the $600 version has a lot of other hardware enhancements that don't sound like you can simply "upgrade" your cheap version to get them.

[James]

Let's not forget the $1000 graphics chip setup. Also, I've never seen a $600 computer that could play games from the last 10 years.

E3 is a day away. So long as Sony shows me "This is why you need a PS3 in November," I'll be willing to buy the $600 version. Hell, last year's E3 made me ready to buy whatever shit they slung at me, so they might pull it off this year too.

Which sucks. Because like I said, people spending this kind of money will only result in a continuing trend where companies will keep selling more expensive consoles because they can.

[Girl Drink Drunk]

I just hope that if they really do make it backwards compatible, that they make the more fucking exspensive PS3 able to read the PS discs a lot better.

[Guitar Woman]

PS3 are for fags

[Girl Drink Drunk]

That was sooooooo witty.

[Guitar Woman]

you know it's true

[darkvare]

Utterly ridiculous *dusts off SNES*

If I'm paying $500+ to play the games, the PS3 better give me a handjobs, fix me lunc, and wash my car.
if you were a woman you could pleasure your self and a frind with the rang controller

[Guitar Woman]

it's like a 500 dollar dildo!

[darkvare]

however, is not water prof wich means you can get shocked down there :lol

[the_dudefather]

ill end up buying one....eventualy....

same as the ps2 i guess

[Guitar Woman]

That reminds me - What's all this crap I'm hearing from Sony about them "Having big plans for the PS2"?

[the_dudefather]

big plans = new eyetoy game this xmas most likely

[BlueOatmeal]

Pfffff who needs next gen consoles? I still play my Saturn, Dreamcast, and PSone all the time.

[darkvare]

Pfffff who needs next gen consoles? I still play my Saturn, Dreamcast, and PSone all the time.
ain't you kinda like a chepass guy :/

[Immortal Goat]

As long as you can upgrade the system at a later date, I'll buy the 20GB. I don't see needing a 60GB, but if I do, I'd like to just do a switch out.

$500 seems about right on with most speculation. I think a lot of people were hoping for lower though. If it was $300 - $400 at most - Sony would probably have the upper hand this year.

I still wanna get one at launch, but I'm concerned that I'll be supporting a trend and telling game companies it's OK to keep going higher and higher with prices. I don't want the PS4 to be $700 or something. :(
Sorry about the bump, but I think James needs to see this:

http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060513133719562032&sectionId=1006

A Sony representative on the show floor at E3 also emphasized that gamers won't be able to upgrade the memory of the 20GB version; if that's the PS3 incarnation you opt for, you're permanently stuck with a 20GB memory limit.

Also, a ton of other key features are missing as well. read the article for more info.

[Emu]

I don't know much about how this thing is going to work, but do you really need 20 gigs?

[AChimp]

Let's not forget the $1000 graphics chip setup. Also, I've never seen a $600 computer that could play games from the last 10 years.

E3 is a day away. So long as Sony shows me "This is why you need a PS3 in November," I'll be willing to buy the $600 version. Hell, last year's E3 made me ready to buy whatever shit they slung at me, so they might pull it off this year too.

Which sucks. Because like I said, people spending this kind of money will only result in a continuing trend where companies will keep selling more expensive consoles because they can.

If you're buying a $1000 video card, then a $600 PS3 probably isn't a problem for you, either, huh? Buying really expensive technology to play games is retarded, because in six months that video card will cost $200 and the game will still be around.

I've seen $300 computers that could play games from the last 10 years. Hell, I'm using a computer as a doorstop that can play anything older than three years.

These consoles are going to cost more and more because they're incorporating newer and newer technology. New tech means that it's expensive to manufacture. It's the price you pay for being an early adopter.

[the_dudefather]

plus later versions will probobly be better made as the technology improves (smaller, quieter, etc)

[Immortal Goat]

I don't know much about how this thing is going to work, but do you really need 20 gigs?
It isn't the size of the hard drive that bothers me, though. That is a formidable size, but the thing is, if you cannot upgrade the console, then the $500 version will never be able to play HD movies, it won't be able to use wireless controllers, along with missing a ton of other features.

Sure, Microsoft put out 2 machines, but the lower end was upgradable. It was like having a stupid kid. You could tutor it and it would get smarter. The PS3, however, is like having a mongoloid child. Nothing will help it. You may love it, but it's still inferior to the other kids on the block.

[Emu]

It seems like the 500 dollar one is a joke. You can pay 100 extra dollars for something with three times the storage space of the cheaper one.

[Immortal Goat]

That does make it sound like a bargain, when you say it that way, but it's still $600 that many people just don't have, especially during the holiday season. I don't see this launch being successful.

[the_dudefather]

we got 23 preorders so far in GameStation (just started the job today), cant imagine how nuts people will get on launch day, and of course when people start selling them on ebay.

It seems the UK doesnt have the option to buy the 'ghetto package' (ie, no hi-def, wifi, etc), at least at launch anyway.

[Zebra 3]

These consoles are going to cost more and more because they're incorporating newer and newer technology. New tech means that it's expensive to manufacture. It's the price you pay for being an early adopter.
Yeah, but it's a fuckin' toy.

Fuck you, Sony.
What he said. :)

[Esuohlim]

I remember as a kid that the newest consoles were never a problem for parents to get for Christmas, but with each new generation and it's flashy caviar-powered expensive game consoles I bet a lot of parents can't really afford to get them nowadays. :(

Now who wants to be the first asshole to jump in with "fuck kids anyway"?

[AChimp]

Yeah, but it's a fuckin' toy.

Your point? It's a "toy" that's using one of the most advanced CPUs every build and blue laser technology.

Check out this link and you'll see that the PS3 isn't that much more expensive when compared to all of the other systems that have existed.

http://curmudgeongamer.com/2006/05/history-of-console-prices-or-500-aint.html

[Supafly345]

Whew, I'm glad it is so expensive. I didn't want to feel stupid for paying 400 (I GOT $100 off with employee discount WEEEEEE) on the 360 if the others were going to be competatively priced. Thank god Sony didn't know how to pace themselves and were forced to charge so much.

NOW ALL I'm STUCK WITH IS PAYING $50 PER CONTROLLER AND $100 FOR MY WIRELESS NETWORK ADAPTER. BOY I FEEL SMART.

[Emu]

That graph doesn't convince me. On the relative prices one, the $600 is still the third most expensive system released after 1986 (with the NES and the biggest mainstream jump in video game sales.) Also, it fails to take into account that the PS3 could be considered a mainstream system while the other big ones (with maybe the exception of the Saturn) are really kind of obscure. I never heard of a Neo Geo til I was 15. For a mainstream system, the PS3 is astronomically high priced no matter how you slice it.

[AChimp]

You have to look at the graph that shows the prices after inflation.

[Chojin]

The Neo-Geo was basically an arcade machine and the games themselves were at least $100 each. The 3DO was supposed to basically be what PCs became. So really, among 'toy' consoles, the PS3's price is ridiculous.

Sony is full of stupid ideas. For $600 I could seriously 'pimp' my 'computer' and get a better setup than a PS3. No-one who has another system of any kind really has an incentive to pick up a PS3 at that price.

My coworker at the mobile DJ company was trying to tell me that the 360 launched at $600, so now I have proof that I was RIGHT ALL ALONG.

[Supafly345]

Wait, what did PC's become? I only ever played Dragon's Lair on the 3DO so I dont' know what you're talking about.

[the_dudefather]

For $600 I could seriously 'pimp' my 'computer' and get a better setup than a PS3.

plus you can use a pc for other stuff than playing games, and if you take piracy into account, it pays for itself eventualy in game/dvd/music savings :P

[Royal Tenenbaum]

$600 is nothing. What is that? Half to maybe 2/3rds of a pay cheque for most people here? Really, that's quite cheap. A computer will run you way more, and it'll last half as long. The PS3 should have a good 6 to 7 year life span. Plus it plays freaking blue-rays. What more could people ask for damnit?

[Zomboid]

Yeah, I figure if I'm spending that kinda money I'll buy a computer instead. That way I can play more roms too :D

[master_d_68]

Also, as usual, the PS3 models will probably have some problem within them like the previous models did (the laser burning out, and the Disc Read Error problems). I had to play my PS1 upside down for years, and I've been through 3 PS2's. Fuck it, I'm gettin' a Wii.

[Immortal Goat]

$600 is nothing. What is that? Half to maybe 2/3rds of a pay cheque for most people here? Really, that's quite cheap. A computer will run you way more, and it'll last half as long. The PS3 should have a good 6 to 7 year life span. Plus it plays freaking blue-rays. What more could people ask for damnit?
Well, for me, it's more like 4 paychecks, since I only work part time, as I'm sure many people here do. Yeah, a computer will run you way more, but it's more functional.

And a bigass LOL to the 6-7 year life span. That's what Sony's saying NOW, but do you honestly think they'll let Microsoft and Nintendo come out with new systems without them? You must be kidding.

Oh, and blue ray can suck my asshole. I've hated it since day 1.

[Chojin]

blue-ray functionality on a system is roughly as important as the ability to play betamax casettes and/or 8-tracks.

see what i did there

Supafly, I meant that the 3DO was supposed to be a media center (it came with an encyclopedia) in addition to a gaming platform. As in, it was supposed to be what we call a PC today. Of course, PCs back then could only play Number Munchers so I had to convolute my analogy :<

[MetalMilitia]

Anyone else watch this Heavy rain PS3 character tech demo thingy? - http://files.filefront.com/Heavy+Rain+The+Casting+E3+2006+Trailer/;5058523;/fileinfo.html

Although, as has been said in this thread plenty you could make an identical game to run on the PC platform it is really cool to see how much effort they put into voice acting and whatnot.

[Marc Summers]

Hang on...

How much does gold XBox Live cost, and what do you get when compared to silver?

[Immortal Goat]

XBox Live Gold I believe is still 50 bucks, and silver is no charge, as online is required for all XBox 360 games. However, the Gold account gives you access to a shit-ton of other services.

Not 100% positive that those are accurate prices, but that's what I was told.

[the_dudefather]

xbox live gold costs about £35 a year here, but being the cheap ass i am, i found a copy of PGR2 for xbox1 (which comes with 1 years xbox live gold, game and headset) for £25, and then sold the game and headset on ebay, meaning i got a year of xbox live gold for about £11 :P

[thebiggameover]

BEHOLD, THE POWER OF MATH!!

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/Carmchartabsocqh.jpg

AND

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/05/Carmchartrelcqh.jpg

got these from here www.joystiq.com....

[Emu]

http://curmudgeongamer.com/2006/05/history-of-console-prices-or-500-aint.html

[Chojin]

I thought four hundred dollars was pretty fucked when we got our 360s. Indeed, I pretty much considered it the ceiling. It should be the ceiling. I'm aware there is a chart out there showing the price of all consoles adjusted for inflation, and where the PS3 lands in the matrix. This would be great if I were buying it with money I used to have, or perhaps spending valuable, inflation adjusted "Future Bucks."
I love Tycho :<

[Emu]

Yeah, I think that graph is highly misleading. 600 bucks is 600 bucks, regardless of how it compares with other systems.

Besides, all that graph really tells me is that my SNES was a really good buy.

[Zebra 3]

>: - Intellivision II and Coleco Telstar Pong aren't listed on the fuckin' chart!

[thebiggameover]

i think its funny how a 2600 is more than a ps3. but the one i think is cool is the first pic. i looks like all the high priced ones are the ones that fail.....

[the_dudefather]

if i hear sony telling me its a bargin one more time....

wow yipee its got a blue ray player, which i dont want, and may never want if HD DVD becomes the domanant format, fair enough if it means better storage for games but in my eyes at the moment its like buying a nes with a built in betamax player for twice the price

[Chojin]

blue-ray functionality on a system is roughly as important as the ability to play betamax casettes and/or 8-tracks.
I wish I had thought to make a betamax joke first!

[Royal Tenenbaum]

HD DVD will not win this format war. It would be impossible. All major film studios support Blu-Ray. Blu-Ray is a superior quality format. Sony owns a film studio, that will not support HD-DVD. The PS3 is going to have a massive installed base of people that will buy Blu-Ray discs. No question, the Blu-Ray functionality is awesome. Mark my words, all the beta max comparisons are just fucking retards that know shit all.

[Marc Summers]

I found this article to give a fairly decent comparison:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/

[Chojin]

SSA:

HD DVD will not win this format war.
AI was the best movie ever.

It would be impossible.
To top AI.

All major film studios support Blu-Ray.
Except for the ones that don't.

Blu-Ray is a superior quality format.
That also costs more and no-one aside from you and me knows about.

Sony owns a film studio, that will not support HD-DVD.
Oh dear! We're running out of those!

The PS3 is going to have a massive installed base of people that will buy Blu-Ray discs.
I assume by 'installed' you are referring to the human-like robots that Sony will install in major malls and message forums to talk about how completely worth it their $600 system really is.

No question, the Blu-Ray functionality is awesome.
THERE IS NO ARGUING THIS. THIS IS THE WAY THINGS ARE.

Mark my words, all the beta max comparisons are just fucking retards that know shit all.
Betamax was also a superior format that cost more than the competition. What do you know!

HD DVD will win in my opinion because people have already associated 'HD' with 'Better' from HD TV and HD Radio. Ask any lay person who would be in the target market for a new video player what a blue ray is and they'll point you to an aquarium.

HD-DVD has everything VHS had over its competition and more. It's not even a contest at this point, although using Blue-Ray as a console gaming apparatus is OK by me! Like the Dreamcast's GD-ROM.

[the_dudefather]

in my view the problem is that there is still doubt over the better format, in the ps2 era DVD was already established to a degree without any other major formats (with movies like the matrix launching a thousand dvd players) and as far as i can tell the first consumer blue ray player will be the PS3, and despite that it is more likely to 'win' over HD DVD, i would rather not gamble that much money on a product unless I know its going to be the better supported one.

in the end i hope one of the formats, hd-dvd or blu-ray vanish quickly as i dont want to juggle 2 different formats for movies.

(oh and if we are going to stop using betamax references i guess we could use UMD instead :P)

[Guitar Woman]

hey guys, who really gives a crap about hardware as long as we get to watch the movies?

[Chojin]

she's right guys, what are we doing, arguing on the internet and all? and on a mockery site, no less?

HOW COULD WE BE SO SHORT-SIGHTED.

[the_dudefather]

i wish hd-quality movies were easier to download, and that my pc was good enough to play them full speed, then i wouldnt have to worry

and its not a question of am i getting a PS3, just when am i getting it