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Ninjavenom
May 26th, 2006, 02:55 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/images/famke-xmen.jpg


uuuunnngh

:love :love :love

ItalianStereotype
May 26th, 2006, 03:00 AM
sooooooo ANGRY

ItalianStereotype
May 26th, 2006, 03:32 AM
ARRRGgglllargh fuck you brett ratner

ItalianStereotype
May 26th, 2006, 03:43 AM
okay, you know what? this movie was so love/hate that it almost makes me sick.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS ALL THE REST OF THIS POST IS A SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

READY?

SPOILER

SPOILER

STOP READING IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPOILERS

"I love you, Jean!"
"I love you, Scott!"
JUST KIDDING LOL DISINTEGRATED WITH ONLY FIVE MINUTES OF SCREEN TIME

hello everyone, I'm Charles Xavier and I'm the most powerful mutant mind on the planet. oh wait, here comes the Phoenix who has absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual Phoenix at all so I'm just going to die like a drippy cunt. hey, have fun for the next hour and a half, guys!

hey, god forbid Magneto should use his powers to actually fight in his grand war. LOL I CAN FASHION MY OWN BRIDGE TO ALCATRAZ BUT O NOS PLASTIC I AM DONE FOR

I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH DOES ANYBODY LOVE ME YET

hey all, I'm super movie director Brett Ratner. plot and character development give me a headache and my pizza just got here so I'm just gonna kill all you important guys and hey look at all the hilarious references I can make

excuse me, but that wasn't calysto, psylocke, spike, or marrow. try again, guys.

the list goes on and fucking on.

it was kinda cool though.

GADZOOKS
May 26th, 2006, 04:03 AM
There were two instances were people applauded, the afformentioned Juggernaught Bitch and the trailer for Snakes On The Plane.

God forbid they break out the Chuck Norris facts right there.

James
May 26th, 2006, 10:56 AM
Did you stay after the credits? There's a scene where some invalid starts talking and it's Xavier's voice MYSTERIOUS.

the_dudefather
May 26th, 2006, 12:31 PM
so...is it worth seeing?

and is marrow in it?

Jixby Phillips
May 26th, 2006, 01:12 PM
I like the part where they all sit around and agree that they are ridiculous

GADZOOKS
May 26th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Did you stay after the credits? There's a scene where some invalid starts talking and it's Xavier's voice MYSTERIOUS.

No I had to take a shit.

:(

James
May 26th, 2006, 02:30 PM
so...is it worth seeing?

and is marrow in it?

No. Marrow's somehow-even-more-faggoty ripoff from X-Men Evolution is. Spike.

Christ, find me a bigger faggot than Spike. Even Cypher is more awesome than Spike. Pretty much everyone from X-Men Evolution is faggy.

ItalianStereotype
May 26th, 2006, 02:51 PM
marrow was there, he was just a big fat black man who gets killed by wolverine instead of a small asian woman.

James
May 26th, 2006, 02:59 PM
That would be Spike.

ItalianStereotype
May 26th, 2006, 03:19 PM
apparently you're right, though that was a much better marrow than spike. you get one, james.

and omega red was in there somewhere?

Girl Drink Drunk
May 26th, 2006, 03:41 PM
They should have replaced Spike with Roger Daltrey as banshee.

executioneer
May 26th, 2006, 05:10 PM
i swear to god the internet's stupidity is going to drive me to suicide one of these days >:

James
May 26th, 2006, 05:43 PM
i swear to god the internet's stupidity is going to drive me to suicide one of these days >:

Explain what stupidity you're talking about this week.

Girl Drink Drunk
May 26th, 2006, 06:10 PM
I just don't give a fuck about Spike. I wanna see an important character.

executioneer
May 26th, 2006, 06:39 PM
i swear to god the internet's stupidity is going to drive me to suicide one of these days >:

Explain what stupidity you're talking about this week.

one of these days, they're just going to make a movie made entirely up of content from ytmnd

executioneer
May 26th, 2006, 06:42 PM
i'm talking about the "i'm the juggernaut b*tch" and "snakes on a plane" fans here btw

Girl Drink Drunk
May 26th, 2006, 06:48 PM
i'm talking about the "i'm the juggernaut b*tch" and "snakes on a plane" fans here btw
My bad. Anyways, i had no clue that it was finally in theaters until today.

James
May 26th, 2006, 07:59 PM
i'm talking about the "i'm the juggernaut b*tch" and "snakes on a plane" fans here btw

I wanna see it for that line. Why? Because that's the highlight thus far in the coverage of this movie. That's not a testament to how funny the line is, but to how bad this movie is.

And yeah, Snakes on a Plane has been run into the ground, sadly. Nobody even cares about the movie, just the name. It's Chuck Norris all over again.

ScruU2wice
May 26th, 2006, 08:16 PM
I think I'm really gonna regret going to this opening night, but I'm goin anyways :(

Mockery
May 26th, 2006, 08:46 PM
Just got back from the movie and posted my thoughts on it in my blog:
http://www.i-mockery.com/blabber/?p=42

Glad to see I'm not the only one who didn't like the "I'm the juggernaut bitch!" thing. I like the movie a lot though.

Sacks
May 26th, 2006, 11:09 PM
I heard this movie is about ABORTIONS and HOMOSEXUALITY.

GADZOOKS
May 26th, 2006, 11:20 PM
I wish.

adept_ninja
May 27th, 2006, 12:04 AM
you all are a bunch of faggots you are going to discredit this movie because of a fucking preview of snakes on a plane and one line from the movie? you all are fucking gays thinking that your above this shit and posting about it and shit. lets see you fuckers remake this shit and see how well it would be. No you all arent movie dirertors, you are sad peices of shit who post your opinions here because you think people care but they dont.. IF every movie was like you wanted it to be we would have boring ass fucking intellectual movies. it was good admit it you cunts and im the juggernauight bitch that was funny to fuck you peopl,e and everything you stand for there is hate and deaht in this world because you touch yourself at night fuck you im going to kill everyone you love and smoke hash through there skulls infront of u you dumb fucking assholes

Ninjavenom
May 27th, 2006, 12:47 AM
Focus on the positives, like how the casting director for the movies kicked ass. The girl who played Shadowcat was definitely cute enough to be the same Kitty Pryde every 5th grader with a set of x-men cards wished was their babysitter.

Misdemonar
May 27th, 2006, 12:48 AM
No you all arent movie dirertors,

I"m an aspiring make-up artist :o

James
May 27th, 2006, 02:51 AM
you all are a bunch of faggots you are going to discredit this movie because of a fucking preview of snakes on a plane and one line from the movie? you all are fucking gays thinking that your above this shit and posting about it and shit. lets see you fuckers remake this shit and see how well it would be. No you all arent movie dirertors, you are sad peices of shit who post your opinions here because you think people care but they dont.. IF every movie was like you wanted it to be we would have boring ass fucking intellectual movies. it was good admit it you cunts and im the juggernauight bitch that was funny to fuck you peopl,e and everything you stand for there is hate and deaht in this world because you touch yourself at night fuck you im going to kill everyone you love and smoke hash through there skulls infront of u you dumb fucking assholes

Quoting this hilarity for our children to witness.


Nobody's dicrediting the movie because of those two things. Everyone's saying those are the only two things the movie has going for it because that's as good as it gets.

Wait, I remember you. How the hell did you get so many posts and not be banned for being a total incompetent heap of worthlessness? Are you threadspamming one of the subforums that nobody visits? Because I guarantee that not a single one of your posts was anything resembling "forgivable."

executioneer
May 27th, 2006, 03:51 AM
hahaha i think i struck a nerve :lol

executioneer
May 27th, 2006, 03:51 AM
i could prob. SHIT a more entertaining movie by the way

ScruU2wice
May 27th, 2006, 09:00 AM
I didn't like it for most of the same reasons Italianstereotype didn't. I thought it was could visually, It really just didn't entertain me storywise. Everyone I sat with didn't get the juggernaut joke or the snakes on a plane joke, so it didn't bother me at all.

But Kelsey Grammer actually made a pretty damn good beast in my opinion. By the end of the movie I think it was a coin flip between who was cuter Kitty pryde or rogue. I think it landed on kitty pryde.



Spoilers of my own

There some ridiculously predictable parts of the movie, like when Xaviers talking to storm and he tells her he wants her to replace him since scott isn't well. Or when storm says "yeah but are you ready to do what you have to do?" to wolverine.

I don't understand the Xmens' motivation to go to alcatraz and fight other mutants. I mean yeah do the right thing and all but I mean they had no idea that the government would keep the mutant vaccine deal voluntary. For all they knew they were fighting to get cured themselves. They picked up the kid but I don't see the association with him and having viles full of the already. It's not like if they kill the kid it erases any memory of his DNA. It just seemed like there was a fight there because there needed to be a fight there.

Regardless of that almost all of the good characters were killed or compromised, which I really don't think is a good finishing point for a trilogy.

But the scene with wolverine and rogue on the operating table was totally kinky.

ScruU2wice
May 27th, 2006, 09:03 AM
you all are a bunch of faggots you are going to discredit this movie because of a fucking preview of snakes on a plane and one line from the movie? you all are fucking gays thinking that your above this shit and posting about it and shit. lets see you fuckers remake this shit and see how well it would be. No you all arent movie dirertors, you are sad peices of shit who post your opinions here because you think people care but they dont.. IF every movie was like you wanted it to be we would have boring ass fucking intellectual movies. it was good admit it you cunts and im the juggernauight bitch that was funny to fuck you peopl,e and everything you stand for there is hate and deaht in this world because you touch yourself at night fuck you im going to kill everyone you love and smoke hash through there skulls infront of u you dumb fucking assholes

I really can't tell if you're being sarcastic, so I'm not even gonna touch on the quality of that post.

we're not movie directors here, but we also don't get paid there salary. When you get paid an assload of money you're going to have produce something worth it, or hear shit about it. I'm only acknowledging you because I think its a really dumb point people always make. "Well you can't do better, assclown" whether I can or can't do is completely independent of whether anything is good or not. sure I can't direct a movie but that doesn't make this automatically great.

GADZOOKS
May 27th, 2006, 01:04 PM
X3 more like xXx, am I right adeptninja?

ScruU2wice
May 27th, 2006, 02:34 PM
I made that joke at the theater and the ticket guy rolled his eyes at me, like he'd heard it 20 times that day...

Sacks
May 27th, 2006, 03:56 PM
I didn't like it for most of the same reasons Italianstereotype didn't. I thought it was could visually, It really just didn't entertain me storywise. Everyone I sat with didn't get the juggernaut joke or the snakes on a plane joke, so it didn't bother me at all.

What joke? There is no joke here. You have been misinformed.

darkvare
May 27th, 2006, 07:25 PM
there are some things i dont get: why juggernaut wasnt charles half brother? and why he lost his powers with the child if he gets them from the gem of cytorak? >:

ArrowX
May 27th, 2006, 08:32 PM
they fagged out his origin entirly. Isn't it funny how Charles is immobile and his brother is unstopable?

Post below the number of times you have heard that.

James
May 27th, 2006, 10:28 PM
Although I hear they made Juggernaut a mutant in Ultimate X-Men.

These Ultimate comics sound great, actually. Origins and storylines are streamlined to cut out a lot of the super-wacky storylines from the older comics. So I don't mind when something relates to the Ultimate storylines. On the other hand, I doubt Ratner even knows there's an Ultimate comic.

ScruU2wice
May 28th, 2006, 11:30 AM
Rog says that magneto moved the little metal chess pieces at the end, but I'm pretty sure he didn't before they cut off to the credits.


but now I'm not sure :(

ItalianStereotype
May 28th, 2006, 11:53 AM
he did.

and scru, you're kinda missing the entire point of the x-men.

ScruU2wice
May 28th, 2006, 04:13 PM
how so? :(

Zomboid
May 28th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Man that movie pissed me off. Some good effects but maaaaaan the story blew ass and they fagged up some characters real good. I don't think they could've done a worse job with juggernaut. Everything about him was just wrong. I hope ratner goes back to directing just rush hour movies or dies or something.

Even my friends who aren't as familiar with the comics or anything thought it sucked.

Moobs
May 28th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Ok the juggernaut made me angry. First of all his voice doesn't suit him at all, he's a hardass not some english 'geeza'

Second of all i am one of those people who got pissed off by the 'juggernaut bitch' bit, and when it happend a group of teenagers laughed for like 5 minutes because of the line.

3rd of all he looked like shit :(

The only things I liked about it is that Beast was in it and Cyclops died before he got a chance to make huge speeches about Jean Gray dying.

Rez
May 28th, 2006, 05:50 PM
despite the blown opportunities, despite the convoluted crap and the bobby/rogue romance disaster adventure, and despite all the other ways this could have been done...

i enjoyed myself immensely. and this is the only forum where i dont seem to be alone.

it's so wierd how all of my friends absolutely hated it. it's so uncommon that i'm starting to wonder what i didn't see.

adept_ninja
May 29th, 2006, 09:16 PM
i was intoxicated when i wrote that so my point was lost in the process of writing it but what i meant to say was I enjoyed the movie and while there were things wrong with it, it was still very good.

ItalianStereotype
May 30th, 2006, 12:15 AM
aside from the fact that it sucked.

Zomboid
May 30th, 2006, 04:11 PM
And butchered some favorite characters.

Immortal Goat
May 30th, 2006, 05:06 PM
I, for one, am GLAD they changed so much from the comics. The comics are just that. Comics. The outlandish stories and multicolored costumes WORK in that medium. However, if you were to try and translate that onto real human beings and film a 2 hour movie, you'd get through maybe one issue of a series, and have a bunch of people onscreen looking more flamboyant than the goddamned cast of Cats.

This new take on the characters makes them seem more believable. Even if the powers are completely impossible, the characters seem more real this way. I don't want to see Juggernaut get his powers from some radioactive space crystal, I want something that actually fits into the world that they have created. I liked Pheonix, and I thought her background was explained well enough. Angel could have used more screentime, sure, but he still kicked ass, and the sequels will have more of him, I'm sure.

So, to all the comic book purists complaining about this movie, just stick with the books, because nothing can ever measure up to your hoplessly impossible fanboy standards.

ItalianStereotype
May 30th, 2006, 05:21 PM
so what does that make you? a Ratner fanboy? because that movie would have still sucked even if they hadn't mangled the comics beyond recognition. I mean, god forbid that they should actually draw upon their source material when making a fucking comic book movie.

COMING IN 2007: A HEARTWARMING TALE OF A YOUNG GIRL COMING TO GRIPS WITH BECOMING A WOMAN IN A FAMILY OF LESBIAN PEDOPHILES. TEA LEONI, KEIRA KNIGHTLEY, BARBARA STREISAND, AND "HOLLYWOOD" HULK HOGAN IN FANTASTIC FOUR 2

I'll expect to see you there opening day.

Immortal Goat
May 30th, 2006, 05:39 PM
Honestly, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I've never seen a Ratner movie before this one, but for all of the things that could have been better (makeup, some of the wirework, and a little more screentime for some of the mutants) it did what I wanted it to do. Entertain me. They DID draw upon the source material, saw that it would suck if they tried to make real people do it, and changed it accordingly. Would you have been happier of they had put THIS in the movie?

http://www.1st-in-halloween-costumes.com/images/filler-images/wolverine-buycostume.jpg

Krythor
May 30th, 2006, 06:05 PM
But nobody had a problem when Bryan Singer chose not to do that.

ItalianStereotype
May 30th, 2006, 06:07 PM
right. Ratner drew from the source material. I'll bet the closest he ever came to reading one of the comics was when he casually glanced at the title before wiping his ass with one of the books. and instead of even trying to successfully put comic material into the movie, it was just decided that they would fuck it up all on their own. cases in point: juggernaut, phoenix, psylocke, calysto, making 90% of all mutants ASIANS, and so on.

and no, I don't really want a 12 year old in a styrofoam costume playing wolverine. how the hell did we even start talking about wolverine's costume? and how fucking out of date can you be?

ScruU2wice
May 30th, 2006, 06:11 PM
The reason I don't like it is purely because of what they did with the story. The characters are virtually the same as the other movies but what they do and how they react is completely different.

you have to admit that the story does have two very seperate plots, one is the "cure" and the other is dark pheonix, niether seems to be a subplot like love triangle between jean, scott, and wolvering. I think the point that's trying to be made is that either one of the storylines would have been good if they really just focused on one of them.

They both just seemed kinda independent of each other except that they involved the same characters. If it was just cure story then there wouldn't need to be jean gray just standing there on alcatraz for 20 minutes waitining for the little boys story to get resolved. It just seemed like 2 movies meshed in to one.

The other thing is that I didn't like the movie as a conclusion to the other 2 movies. It resolved all the human vs. mutant tension without actually showing any humans. I mean as a human in the Xmen universe if I found the shit that went down on Alcatraz I would be blindly prejudice toward mutants. But instead it just kinda caps of with this almost cheesy happy ending deal. I don't know if that's part of the comic book or not but It seemed like the movie forgot what it was trying to get at until the last 10 minutes and it needed a quick fix.

And I don't buy into that "oh well he made it look good" crap. They did that in the other 2 movies too, he wasn't forging any new territory with the costumes. Everything that was good about this movie was already established in the first two.

N00bKill3R
May 31st, 2006, 01:36 PM
Alright seriously... the movie was WRITTEN way before Ratner was even signed on as director, it was written before Singer even left the project. I think he did an excellent job with what he was given. And as for all this bullshit about the characters, you need to stop being a faggoty fanboy for 2 seconds to realize that characters/actions/events that play well in the comics and the cartoon just wouldn't work the same in the context to the films.

Also to the post above... I think the mutant/human conflict had been somewhat resolved between the end of the second movie and the start of the third. It seems like humans realized that Magneto and the Brotherhood were the enemy and that all other mutant were not a threat.

executioneer
May 31st, 2006, 01:41 PM
Alright seriously... the movie was WRITTEN way before Ratner was even signed on as director, it was written before Singer even left the project.

just like star wars episode 1-3 right guys

ItalianStereotype
May 31st, 2006, 01:52 PM
uh, actually, Ratner co-wrote the script after Singer left. that's awesome how you come in this thread being all uppity and then turn out to not even know what you're talking about. keep it up, slugger.

and maybe they should've listened to some "faggoty fanboys" because what they had in the movie sure as hell didn't work. but then, obviously being the connoisseur of good taste that you are, mr. N00bKill3R, it would probably be wasted on you. much like the gift of human life.

N00bKill3R
May 31st, 2006, 02:15 PM
Hmm... I'm pretty sure I heard Ratner himself say that he didn't change any part of the original script aside from a few structural and character aspects. I don't post opinionated bullshit.

ItalianStereotype
May 31st, 2006, 03:24 PM
if that's the case, then Matthew Vaughn must've fucked everything up in the short time that he was director because those writers weren't so happy. but really, I doubt it.

James
May 31st, 2006, 07:24 PM
I don't want to see Juggernaut get his powers from some radioactive space crystal, I want something that actually fits into the world that they have created.

But that's a logical change. I don't think anyone was going "WTF WHERE IS THE RUBY OF CYTERAAAAKK NERD RAGE!" It's more like "Why does Juggernaut look like a gay gladiator?"

Logical changes from the source material is one thing. Illogical changes is another. And changes aside, I just think the basic premise for the movie and the direction it took just left a lot of people unhappy, regardless of if they read/enjoy the comics.

Ninjavenom
May 31st, 2006, 10:45 PM
Where was Psylocke? She is by far the sexiest mutant ever, and i am horrified to wonder what was done to ruin her :(

James
May 31st, 2006, 11:55 PM
She was the asian chick with Calysto and Stacy-X, with the purple streaks in her hair.

GADZOOKS
Jun 1st, 2006, 12:32 AM
Hmm... I'm pretty sure I heard Ratner himself say that he didn't change any part of the original script aside from a few structural and character aspects. I don't post opinionated bullshit.

By character aspects do you mean making them quote the internet?

SUFFER
Jun 1st, 2006, 05:35 AM
this movie was fucked up all over the place
it was alright in some of the action sequences but totally took the storyline off a goddamn cliff , the first 2 movies had such promise and direction and it seems like when they took over this movie they just instead of expanding drive the story into the fucking ground .
oh yeah and as for that juggernaut shit :
http://realjuggernaut.ytmnd.com/
it has obviously become some kind of infectious disease

Jixby Phillips
Jun 1st, 2006, 06:17 AM
you guys are all nersd

Jixby Phillips
Jun 1st, 2006, 06:18 AM
seriously how anybody could consider movies like this anything less than a headache is beyond me

the_dudefather
Jun 1st, 2006, 02:39 PM
just came back from it, thought it was ok,

*spoilers* personal highs/lows:



+the beast
+the makers balls to kill off a couple of key characters
+naked chick ftw
-juggernaut was a bit rubbish (vinnie jones wtf?)
-too many "lol look at this mutant students wacky powers" moments (true this was in the first 2 movies too, but seriously, what kind of power is pencil vision?)
-couldnt magneto use a damn boat? he could use his floaty powers for that too if he wanted

Jixby Phillips
Jun 1st, 2006, 04:36 PM
dont wanna spoil *THIS* movie :eek

mburbank
Jun 2nd, 2006, 03:39 PM
Okay, I'll go out on a limb here and bet that I'm the only one here who's actually read more than thirty years of x-men continuity as it was published.

I'd be the first to admit, that is a very sad statement, and if I had all the money I'd spent I could buy a nice car.

Here's the thing though. Have you noticed the X-men have had about two dozen continuities over the years and currently maintain, what, like six different ongoing continuities? And you're pissed that the movie continuity is yet one more? Why bother?

You Didn't like the movie? Fine. No one has to. But you didn't like it becuase it 'wasn't true to the source material'? WHICH source material? Which artist writer combo of the six bazailliuon who've played around with these characters?

I liked the movie less than some of my favorites, but way, way, way, way,way better than when say it was all about Cable.

AChimp
Jun 2nd, 2006, 04:15 PM
The first two movies were better than this one. There wasn't nearly as much of a plot as there was in the previous movies, and a lot of the action scenes seemed to just be an excuse to show off more mutants and more powers and more special effects.

The people complaining about Juggernaut's costume are gay fanboys. :rolleyes

James
Jun 2nd, 2006, 05:05 PM
The people complaining about Juggernaut's costume are gay fanboys. :rolleyes

If we were gay, we'd love his costume a lot more.

I'm not saying he should have been a 15-foot-tall wall of brown armor and spandex. I'm just saying he shouldn't have looked so dull. Or naked.

Sideshow Collectables had the best Juggernaut design. Conventional, realistic, and enough integrity of the familiar comic design.

http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8049/060vm.jpg

Mockery
Jun 2nd, 2006, 05:17 PM
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/8049/060vm.jpg

+

http://www.he-man.de/toys/classic/pics/pic_ramman.jpg

Separated at birth?

Emu
Jun 2nd, 2006, 05:59 PM
Holy shit, I had that He-Man toy :eek If you pushed his legs in he jumped!

ArrowX
Jun 3rd, 2006, 12:40 AM
They could have made him at the very least that Reddish Brown Color.

noob3
Jun 4th, 2006, 05:53 AM
boring scene with people talking about somthing

key character explodes

boring scene

key character loses mutantness

angel makes appearance

key character implodes

angel saves somone, never seen again

beast farts

boring scene with people talking about somthing

wolverine has sex with xavier, xavier explodes

jean gray eats somone

mutants introduced

beast does a flip

all the mutants introduced die, wolverine wins

beast does a flip, farts

credits

omg magneto & xavier are alive & gay

this movie was a wallet vampire waste of time waste of money

noob3
Jun 4th, 2006, 05:59 AM
ps - HUGE SPOLIER AHEAD:

in the beginning u know the movie is gonna suck ass when a naked ass arnie teleports in

and he fucking looks at the camera and goes

"i am the cableinator"

master_d_68
Jun 4th, 2006, 06:37 AM
Ya know, I kept the faith, even after hearing Brett "I'm still homies with Ja Rule ya hurr" Ratner took over as director. But this damn thing was ridiculous. Characters did things that were just mindbogginly stupid. Ah, antidotes EVER where. So how do I help liberate Jean Grey of her powers? Hows about I stab her right in the gut? Yeah that's the tang.