Yay....not

[Shifty]

Im going to be a father, hip fuckign hurrah for fucking me.

[Terra]

Your how old?

[Shifty]

not old enough.

[Terra]

You never heard of rubbers??

You didn't impregnate Stupidkraut did you? :(

[Shifty]

no, yes we did use rubbers, and the pill, SHES FERTIL I SAY STUPID FUCKING WOMEN! GRR you make me horny and mad GRR!

[Terra]

Then it AIN'T yours, pal! She's a lying sack of snail jiuce. Get a paternity test. ASAP!

[Shifty]

-.-, not another, one of you, heh ive had enough of you!

[Terra]

Whut?

[Emu]

I thought you were a girl.

If you don't want it, can I have your baby? I haven't eaten in a while.

[Lotida]

Will there be a wedding in the future? Or, should we expect future complaints about how much child support costs?

[Terra]

Can kids get married just out of elementary school?

[Shifty]

no idea on a wedding. and maby complaints in the future about child support for now i have no fuckin clue.

And Terra, i mean, one of you who think she must be cheating, ive heard a couple people say that....

[Emu]

Srsly, get genetic testing done. The money will be worth it if it's not yours.

If you can't afford it, there's always Maury.

[liquidstatik]

...she must be cheating, ive heard a couple people say that....

maybe because she is. :o

[Shifty]

People that dont know me and my g/f. said that.

[BlueOatmeal]

Oh man on Muray this one woman had like 5 dudes on the same show and NONE of them were the father. Godammit it was funny.

[Emu]

What about that one girl who's been on the show 13+ times and never found her baby's daddy?

[BlueOatmeal]

Lol. Shes all like "I'm 150% positive that THIS man is the father of my 8 kids!"

[Girl Drink Drunk]

no idea on a wedding. and maby complaints in the future about child support for now i have no fuckin clue.

And Terra, i mean, one of you who think she must be cheating, ive heard a couple people say that....

If you aren't ready and capable, mentally or emotionally, to raise a child, mabye adoption is a possible idea.

[Terra]

Yes. Ask your parents to adopt the baby.

[Rongi]

how come no one has said abortion?

[Emu]

Because that's vulgar

[Terra]

how come no one has said abortion?

it didn't work for YOU did it?

[Kulturkampf]

You're the reason why we have welfare.

[Emu]

You don't even live here.

[Terra]

You're the reason why we have welfare.

Don't you live in Korea Killturd?

[executioneer]

You're the reason why we have welfare.

what's this "we" business, are you from canada?

[Terra]

What's he doing up here, dry jacking off in no-man's land anyway? Shouldn't he be pissing people off in the philosophy forum while he fumbles for his dick??

[executioneer]

seriously you can't humiliate the people who post in this forum any further so what's the point :lol

[Esuohlim]

I like how he went all Wayne's World with the thread title.

[Terra]

seriously you can't humiliate the people who post in this forum any further so what's the point :lol

This is true

[Girl Drink Drunk]

how come no one has said abortion?
I was going to say, but I was too much of a pussy. But yeah, the world is overpopulated as it is, and one more child brought into this world that isnt loved doesn't help.


You're the reason why we have welfare.

what's this "we" business, are you from canada?
I suspect you are joking, but the US pretty much went into a "welfare state", after Franklin Roosevelt using deficit spending to bring the US out of the Great Depression era.

[executioneer]

I like how he went all Wayne's World with the thread title.

schwing :eek

[executioneer]

how come no one has said abortion?
I was going to say, but I was too much of a pussy. But yeah, the world is overpopulated as it is, and one more child brought into this world that isnt loved doesn't help.


You're the reason why we have welfare.

what's this "we" business, are you from canada?
I suspect you are joking, but the US pretty much went into a "welfare state", after Franklin Roosevelt using deficit spending to bring the US out of the Great Depression era.

i was talking about the fact that the original poster of the thread was from canada, so culturecamp's "we" was a bit irrelevant since i'm fairly sure he's originally from the US

[Rongi]

It didn't work for YOU did it?

I've never gotten pregnant before :(

[Terra]

Were you on the receiving end of a hanger and it missed? >:

[Shifty]

HURRAH i get to go to father classes. :'( i feel like, something?


This sucks, im going to have a mini me walking around.



O well, i get a life long relationship with my current g/f no matter what, what could be worse than that?.....kill me....

[RaNkeri]

when is the day of birth? I mean, did you guys consider abortion? :/

[Terra]

oh snap, shifty died

[maggiekarp]

Hey uh don't feel like you have to marry eachother just because there's a baby. You don't want to screw it up with one of them loveless marriages :/

[Shifty]

IF we get married, we will be probally 25. Abortion is illegal after 3 months. and shes due, early august. HURRAH right near my b-day to. this is going to be the best b-day ever! NO SEX AT FUCKING ALL!

[camacazio]

Yeah if my girlfriend got pregnant also the part that would bother me most would be no sex on my birthday too.

[Fathom Zero]

Sweet. Anna Nicole is pregnant...
Perfect for my deviant nature.

[Shifty]

who the fuck is anna nicole?



if shes some whore, then, give me her number, i need sex on my b-day or it aint my b-day :(

[RaNkeri]

I think he means Anna Nicole Smith? The fat blond ex-playboy model who was somewhat hot during late 80s :/

[WhiteRat]

It was the late 70's. Get your facts straight, Rankeri.

[Shifty]

pff. fat people. the only way the get sex is by paying!

[Fathom Zero]

Maybe for you, but not for me. > : )

[Shifty]

Holy shit. Pre natal classes are a thing of the devil. they show a baby being born. and holy fuck, is it gross.



WOuld it be such a bad thing for me not to be in the room when this lil shit is born?

[maggiekarp]

You are a horrible person :(

[executioneer]

Holy shit. Pre natal classes are a thing of the devil. they show a baby being born. and holy fuck, is it gross.



WOuld it be such a bad thing for me not to be in the room when this lil shit is born?

you should have thought of that before you put your penis in a vagina >:

[sadie]

to be fair, fathers haven't been allowed in the delivery room for that many years.

[ArrowX]

http://www.i-mockery.com/visionary/modern-dad.php

Mr. Burbank has a few practical ideas

[Lotida]

How old are you and how old is your Baby Momma? Just think you get to say stupid still like... "My baby momma is messing around on me".

"My baby momma is dumping the baby off on to so she can go party".

My baby Momma.... the list is endless....

lol

Good luck with that! How old are you two?? >:

[ArrowX]

terra your just jealous, because all the other girls are having kids and you arent.

Ive known the mom since about kindergarden or grade 1, shes gonna be a good mom.

[executioneer]

arrowx unless you were responding to a ten-day-old post w/o quoting it, i think you need to understand that lotida and terra are not the same person

[ArrowX]

Willie women are all the same to me, be it lotida, gloybelly, or terra. There all just objects, put here for my amusement.

[Emu]

which is why you have a picture of a man tearing the skin off of one in your sig, right

[ArrowX]

pretty much yeah.

[Shifty]

terra your just jealous, because all the other girls are having kids and you arent.

Ive known the mom since about kindergarden or grade 1, shes gonna be a good mom.



holy shit really? i never knew you knew her that long.


and where about 16.



and Sadie, im allowed. i just not sure yet. i will probally faint, and probally not want to touch the thing. after all it will be covered in blood and that.

[Lotida]

Willie women are all the same to me, be it lotida, gloybelly, or terra. There all just objects, put here for my amusement.


Oh geezz... what a pimp you are!! :blah

You must be terribly amused when we are laughing our asses off at you!

[Lotida]

and where about 16.


You are "about" 16??? What are you Crazy! First of all you don't know for sure how old you are... and you are having kids!! Did the thought of birth control enter your head at all?

Who is going to support this kid while the two of you are still growing up???

[Shifty]

About 16 turning 17 actually her b-day is saturday.......fuckin b-day's


Willie women are all the same to me, be it lotida, gloybelly, or terra. There all just objects, put here for my amusement.


Oh geezz... what a pimp you are!! :blah



he is quiet the pimp, hes got all the gay guys crallin over him.

[maggiekarp]

She is exactly as old as I am :eek


You better get her a good present not just a baby >:

[Shifty]

putting 100 bucks on my paypal account, and letting her loose at hottopic. she loves that shit.

[executioneer]

i do hate you, teen parents >:

[Supafly345]

Haha, arrowx has never kissed a girl.

[glowbelly]

i think this gal would be way better off if you just stayed the heck out of her and the kid's lives forever. starting now. it'll give you plenty of time to find sex for your birthday.

[Sethomas]

terra your just jealous, because all the other girls are having kids and you arent.

psssh if terra wanted a baby she knows right where to find me you know i'm right guys.

[Terra]

Right on Seth! Arrow, please just swill in your own primordial ooze for a change and stop hitting everybody else with it.

[Shifty]

I do hate you, executineers! BAH! >:


i think this gal would be way better off if you just stayed the heck out of her and the kid's lives forever. starting now. it'll give you plenty of time to find sex for your birthday.

Doubt it.

[AChimp]

This thread is proof of why hicks everywhere should not be allowed to breed.

[Shifty]

fuck that im no hick.

[Gurlugon]

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but you can always go Asian Babysitter on the kid and then donate some money to SIDS research to clear your conscience.

[Shifty]

O! or i know, ill introduce my g/f to WoW. and we can play WoW while the kid starves to death like people did somewhere in this world. Wooo hurrah....fucking krouts.

[Terra]

oh SNAP I hope your dick falls off.

[Shifty]

why?

[CaptainBubba]

IS your gf hot?

Like before she got preggy was she hot, cuz then at least she'll be hot when she loses that weight and ya'll can fuck again yunno.

[Shifty]

i find her hot. her body i liked alot. i hope it goes back.

[CaptainBubba]

Yea hopefully

[CaptainBubba]

I mean, how hot is she?

[Shifty]

...ask hot as you can imagine....:|

[fuck.I'm_Sean]

that's pretty hot.

[Terra]

Shifty, is your g/f a moose by any chance?

:shitupmillhouse >:

[Shifty]

no...

[kahljorn]

":shitupmillhouse"

Do you know how difficult shitting up would be? Honestly, not only would it be hard to keep your balance while standing on your head but trying to relax your bowels while your stomach muscles are tense could prove to be difficult and, although I can see why the premise of shit coming out of his ass and running down his front and back could be amusing, I resent the implication that he's a world class athlete capable of performing such a feat. World class athletes work years, not taking steroids or making jokes, they are very serious and they can't fuck around in their line of work, and to sit here and listen to you degrade them with your talk of invertible-elimination is just an outright shame not to mention disrespectful for all that they've done for the world.

[Terra]

Your right. What am I thinking??

I had watched Starship Troopers and I just figured if the bugs could do it, so could he.

[Shifty]

Well its born. she had to get a c-section. the baby was to big for her. so she had to get her self cut open. so we be at hospital for 4-5 days.


Baby wieghs 7.15 pounds. was born yesterday august 12 at 6:38 PM. 22 CM or Inchs long i forgot. and yeah. if you want pics ask if you do then ill post em when i get back to my PC.


Yeah well cya!





4 pages? holy damn.

[glowbelly]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol @ 22 cm

IT'S INCHES YOU STUPID UGH TEENAGE FATHER FOR FUCK'S SAKE UNLESS YOU IMPREGNATED A TEENSY WOODLAND FAIRY WHO COULDN'T GIVE BIRTH TO AN 8 INCH BABY.

now, be prepared to wait on this girl hand and foot. she won't be able to drive or walk up stairs for 6-8 weeks.

ps: i hate you >:

[Shifty]

if you didnt notice i put 22 CM or Inchs i wasnt to sure because i was tired. and i know my fuckin job so dont tell me what to do.

[glowbelly]

you. don't. know. shit.

your families are going to end up raising that child.

and all i can say to that is: hopefully they won't screw this one up, too.

[ArrowX]

serious glowbelly, fuck off. Just because you realized a long time ago that your husband has grown tired of you doesn't mean you get to be so embittered that you have to start taking shots at a kid with a baby.

Besides YOU dont' know shit, you don't know Shifty or his girl.

What makes them any different from you and your husband you puckered old cunt, just because their not as old as you doesn't mean that there gonna dich the baby in a gutter or something, thier parents and they'll do whats right.

[AChimp]

Fuck. Another Alberta hillbilly is born. >:

[glowbelly]

stupid, you do realize that you're defending a person who was upset that he got his gal preggo because it meant that he couldn't have sex on his birthday, right? you do realize that this thread is titled "yay, NOT" right?

i'm just stating the obvious. this shifty person is A CHILD and so is his girlfriend. he doesn't know what tired is, yet. right now his lady is in the hospital and the baby is being taken care of by her and the hospital staff. i just wonder how upset he's going to be when he finds out that he can't fuck his girlfriend for another 6 weeks and that midnight feedings don't just happen at midnight - they happen at 2, 4, 6 and 8 am.

as for the comments about my husband, i'm going to let those slide because you're just making shit up to take the piss. i think it's hysterical that a friggin highschool boy thinks he has the balls to call me out on such ridiculous terms. you want to know what's so different about our situation and theirs? we wanted a baby. my husband didn't start a thread on the internet about not wanting it, complaining that he couldn't have sex, hoping that i'll still be hot after it was born while being all grossed out about having to watch a birth. in short: WE ARE NOT CHILDREN.

[maggiekarp]

Good luck, Shifty. Learn patience, and be a good parent for your kid.

[glowbelly]

oh lookie who shows up to be all nicey-nice >:

[maggiekarp]

Sorry glow it's just that I know a few babies with babies and Kraut has stupid in his name already :(

[executioneer]

maybe if he changed his username to "#1 DAD" instead of "shifty" it would be easier to think well of him :lol

[GADZOOKS]

Guys you are missing the point, ArrowX is the mom.

[executioneer]

hahahahahaha :lol

[executioneer]

that explains why he smashed his xbox it was the moodswings :lol

[Chojin]

your families are going to end up raising that child.

and all i can say to that is: hopefully they won't screw this one up, too.
aaahahahaha ;>

[GADZOOKS]

HIs signature is actually from the video of the horrible birth. :(

[Shifty]

stupid, you do realize that you're defending a person who was upset that he got his gal preggo because it meant that he couldn't have sex on his birthday, right? you do realize that this thread is titled "yay, NOT" right?

i'm just stating the obvious. this shifty person is A CHILD and so is his girlfriend. he doesn't know what tired is, yet. right now his lady is in the hospital and the baby is being taken care of by her and the hospital staff. i just wonder how upset he's going to be when he finds out that he can't fuck his girlfriend for another 6 weeks and that midnight feedings don't just happen at midnight - they happen at 2, 4, 6 and 8 am.

as for the comments about my husband, i'm going to let those slide because you're just making shit up to take the piss. i think it's hysterical that a friggin highschool boy thinks he has the balls to call me out on such ridiculous terms. you want to know what's so different about our situation and theirs? we wanted a baby. my husband didn't start a thread on the internet about not wanting it, complaining that he couldn't have sex, hoping that i'll still be hot after it was born while being all grossed out about having to watch a birth. in short: WE ARE NOT CHILDREN.


Fuck you. you dont know anything. so dont base your opinions on some shit i say on the internet.

[Daphne]

What else is she supposed to base her opinion of you on?! Your collected works of literature? :lol

You're Canadian and you should KNOW that a baby couldn't be 22 centimetres long!

I wish your baby luck, I really do. I'm scared for the poor little thing.

[Trash]

Oh wait, nevermind.

[Trash]

Double post god I suck.

[Chojin]

What else is she supposed to base her opinion of you on?! Your collected works of literature? :lol

i would quote this and lol but i already DID THAT

YES HOW DARE YOU JUDGE HIS FATHERING ABILITIES ON HIS AGE AND COMPLETE VOID OF RESPONSIBILITY THE MAN JUST WANTS TO GET LAID ON HIS BIRTHDAY IS THAT SO WRONG

[Chojin]

BANDS THAT WRITE SONGS ABOUT HOW GHETTO YOUTH ARE HAVING KIDS AND FUCKING THE WORLD UP JUST HAVEN'T HEARD THE NAME SHIFTY YET, BY CHRIST

[Chojin]

This reminds me of how my ex got pregnant like 6 months after she dumped me and after she had her kid she'd leave it at home all restrained so she could go to the arcade

I hear you can look up some fantastic boy scout knots on the internet, Shifty, if you'd like to be prepared for your fatherhood.

[kahljorn]

I don't know guys I know some pretty horrible parents and age or aging hasn't really helped them at all. Clearly someone selfish enough that their greatest concern about the pregnancy is that they don't get to have sex is probably selfish enough to make a horrible parent, though.

I've never been good at knowing what size and weight babies are supposed to be when they are born. i think that's a woman thing, men don't have an inherent care for babies or baby lore. Women are practically born reading pregnancy magazines.

[maggiekarp]

Babies are serious business >:

...oh, yeah :(

[Immortal Goat]

Boy I'm sure glad that people like this get to be parents. It makes for great entertainment on COPS.

[Schimid]

This reminds me of the family that lives next door to us, actually. A seventeen year old guy ended up getting this woman's daughter, sixteen, pregnant. I think there were two babies, but something didn't split right. Only one of everything...heart, liver, every vital organ. So they both were inevitably going to end up dead.

The mother, sixteen, hears this and bursts into tears. The grandmother, a woman of forty-something-or-other, goes to her daughter to console her. The father sheepishly mutters "So...how soon 'till we can make another mistake?"

And they're still together

[Shifty]

I wasnt worried about not fuckin on my b-day it was a joke. i dont really care. i know that i half to wait for about 5-6 weeks before we can even do anything. maby longer with her c-section. I know that babys wake up roughly ever 2-4 hours to feed. I know women cry randomly for no reason after the first week. i also know to not let there heads fall back. huh you guys failed to mention that i probally didnt know that. I dont know if ill be a good parent. No one does. and there is no way to tell. All i fuckin know is be there for the kid and my g/f not much else i can really do now can i? I believe no one knows what im exactly going through. Yes it is half my fault and yes i take responsibilitie for it.

[Immortal Goat]

Half your fault? How about both of you carry 100% of the blame? You both should have been smarter, and you both are responsible for what happened, but since both or you could have said "no", you are both fully responsible for what happened.

Seriously, though, put the baby up for adoption. It would be much better off that way.

[maggiekarp]

Jesus guys it's a baby, not a horrible monster resulting from running over a guy in a teenage fit of moronitude.


Give it love, not screaming and running away :(

[Rongi]

i seriously think juttin is joking around and there is no baby. this is some sick, twisted way of getting attention

[Juttin]

Yes, I AM joking around, but I don't see how that applies, My good sir.

[glowbelly]

I wasnt worried about not fuckin on my b-day it was a joke. i dont really care. i know that i half to wait for about 5-6 weeks before we can even do anything. maby longer with her c-section. I know that babys wake up roughly ever 2-4 hours to feed. I know women cry randomly for no reason after the first week. i also know to not let there heads fall back. huh you guys failed to mention that i probally didnt know that. I dont know if ill be a good parent. No one does. and there is no way to tell. All i fuckin know is be there for the kid and my g/f not much else i can really do now can i? I believe no one knows what im exactly going through. Yes it is half my fault and yes i take responsibilitie for it.

ok, ok, you've totally convinced me that you're going to be a terrific father....NOT

[Shifty]

What the fuck is your problem? you have a problem with young parents?

[executioneer]

i don't believe in teen parenting, myself

[Shifty]

no one was asking you

[executioneer]

whoops wrong account :lol

[executioneer]

actually by posting your response on the forums rather than taking it to PM you are, in fact, "asking" for EVERYONE's opinion.

if you somehow have a quality that doesn't show thru in your posts on this message board, and you actually will be a good parent, then hooray. but I still think y'all should've waited a little longer before babying up the place because that would have added more financial and emotional stability to your future household >:

[executioneer]

you fucking cock

[Shifty]

I understand how you guys thinkin me as a bad parent can come through. thats not what really bothers me. its why glowbelly seems to think that she has a right to bitch me out. But i guess it is i-mock, since your supposed to mock the fellow posters.

[Immortal Goat]

She has the right to bitch you out because:

1: I-Mockery

2: She IS a parent, and her parental, let alone her human, instincts kick in when she sees a situation where a child can/will be done irreparable damage.

3: You're a cunt.

[Shifty]

yes cuz she can see that im going to harm my son...i can see how she can see that.

[Immortal Goat]

yes cuz she can see that im going to harm my son...i can see how she can see that.
Don't spoil the ending for me, please. I'm waiting for the Lifetime special.

[maggiekarp]

A girl I ate lunch with last year had her baby this summer, he's so cute :D

I told my brother about it and he said that happened a lot at the alternative school, kids brought in their babies to show off to the class.

To say that a child would be automatically fucked up if raised by teen parents is like saying single-parent kids will be fucked up :(

[Immortal Goat]

Not all teen-parent kids will be fucked up, but Shifty sure is showing promise here. Way to live up to the steryotype!

[Shifty]

Best way to figure out if ill be a good parent is to actually know me other than base opinions on 190 posts...

[Immortal Goat]

191 and counting

[Shifty]

yes it is.


:O i know an idea, ill post what im willing to do to make you guys change ur minds..../sarcasm

[glowbelly]

that would have been a lot better of a joke if you would have stuck with the whole "not" thing >:

see? see why you fail as a parent?

[Shifty]

Nope i dont. i really dont. i fail to see how being at her house every day, changing him, and more or less being there for them is being a bad parents. Tell me how the fuck am i a bad parent. even tho my child isnt even a month old.

[kahljorn]

because parenting isn't about just changing diapers and feeding food but also about sharing wisdom with them so that as they grow they will be responsible and mature and be capable of making good decisions for their age, you literally shape their personality and what the rest of their life will be like. basically, you're trying to make someone everything you're not and everything you didn't have. I'm pretty sure that's the goal of any good parent, there's two inherent problems here though 1: your parents are going to help raise the child 2: you have no inherent wisdom or lifeknowledge by which to raise them. Your child will be raised to be just as confused about life as you are.

[Immortal Goat]

Even more so, since (presumably) his father is young enough to be his brother.

[AChimp]

you have no inherent wisdom or lifeknowledge by which to raise them. Your child will be raised to be just as confused about life as you are.

See, Shifty? This is the NUMBER ONE REASON as to why you will be a bad parent.

You haven't done anything with your life. You're not even finished school. You don't even know if you really like this girl enough to spend the next few decades with her. Teenage relationships are meaningless, and if you were older you'd know that. You have NO experience whatsoever with anything.

And guess what? You'll be too busy changing diapers to do anything with your life for the forseeable future, and when the time comes that you might be able to accomplish something else, you'll be too accustomed to doing nothing and THAT is what your kid will learn.

[maggiekarp]

After all this bitching and moaning, what sort of solution do you guys propose? He leave the kid in the dumpster? Give it to a foster home?

He could let his folks raise it, sure, but that might screw the kid up more to learn his brother is his daddy than to have really young parents. And in the end, we don't know how the kid is gonna turn out! You can raise two children the same way and they can be completely different because of their personalities.

No one is completely prepared for parenthood. No adult has every bit of knowledge a child need to become a well-rounded, happy human. SOCIETY, folks. School? But everyone who has a baby, no matter the age or the background, has to do their best and raise the child as they see fit.

As a baby, all it really needs is love and attention (shelter, diaper changes, clothes). Just about any teen can give that if they try hard enough. And because of the added pressure to "do it right" for being a teen parent, he might do better than a normal adult.


As the baby grows, Shifty will no doubt grow, too. You guys seem to think he'll be a teen forever.



I can't say how the relationship between Shifty and the baby mommy will turn out. Lots of teen relationships are meaningless, sure, but there are tons of long-lasting, happy marriages that are between highschool sweethearts. Feh.



Now, show me the asshole who ISN'T confused by life >:

[Shifty]

Do you guys know any teen parents or atleast where teen parents? They have closer relationships than most older parents do. What would you like to be a better friend when ur younger 20-30 year old or 30-40 year old?


Ok i now understand what you guys are saying. and just like maggiekarp said you guys just gonna sit here and bitch me out and not atleast give me some help to raise it right?




Even more so, since (presumably) his father is young enough to be his brother.


my dad is 51.

[Pub Lover]

He's talking about you and your kid. You could be siblings.

[Shifty]

probally not, brother thats 17 years older? think not.

[Pub Lover]

That's your problem, lack of thinking. It is common for that sort of thing to happen.

[Immortal Goat]

Do you guys know any teen parents or atleast where teen parents? They have closer relationships than most older parents do. What would you like to be a better friend when ur younger 20-30 year old or 30-40 year old? .
Kids don't need a fucking friend, they have those in school. They need a parent. It's THAT mentality that fucks kids up more than anything else. You can never take a friend as seriously as you can a parent. Learn this now, or your kid will suck more than you do.

[kahljorn]

"what sort of solution do you guys propose?"

The solution where he develops good parenting skills and his kid doesn't end up being a little jerk, I guess :O

"You can raise two children the same way and they can be completely different because of their personalities. "

It has nothing to do with their personalities(I'm assuming yo u're talking about the babies "Personality"), personalities are formed around interaction with the family and enviroment, although there may be a few "individual" factors. It's also literally impossible to raise two children exactly the same way unless they are twins and born at the same time.

"He could let his folks raise it, sure, but that might screw the kid up more to learn his brother is his daddy than to have really young parents."

I don't really think it matters so much who his parents are but the type of enviroment his family creates, together, and the type of interaction the family has with the baby.

"As the baby grows, Shifty will no doubt grow, too. You guys seem to think he'll be a teen forever. "

Growing up doesn't grant maturity nor parenting skills :O

"Now, show me the asshole who ISN'T confused by life "

I'm not confused by life but I think showing you my asshole in this thread would be inappropriate :O

[kahljorn]

"Kids don't need a fucking friend, they have those in school. They need a parent. It's THAT mentality that fucks kids up more than anything else. You can never take a friend as seriously as you can a parent. Learn this now, or your kid will suck more than you do."

True that, the ghettoist whitetrashist family I've ever known has a mother that's best friends with them and doesn't believe in spanking them, even when they don't clean their room for a year and their room is disgustingly filfthy. including half eatten rotting melons and litter boxes that were never cleaned and thusly shit was covered with clothes. Oh and their beds were coated in sugar, and all of the silverware was in their bedroom.

BEST FRIENDS!

[Shifty]

Be friends with the kid. so that he tells you stuff, have an open relationship. be trusting of eachother. but still put your foot down when you half to. Dont bitch the kid out for screwing up, try to level with them and then if they do it again, bitch the kid out. Try to understand why there doing the things there doing instead of forcing punishment on them. thats the kind of parenting i would probally do. not the fucking way my parents raised my brother.

[Pub Lover]

What happened to your brother? Does he have kids too? Is he in prison? Does he smuggles kids into prison... Huh? :confused

[Shifty]

None of your buisness. Hes just a fuck up.

[maggiekarp]

"Growing up doesn't grant maturity nor parenting skills :O "

Man this is what I've been trying to say >:


-edit- Except with less contradictions :(

[Pub Lover]

None of your buisness. Hes just a fuck up.
If you don't want to talk about it then don't use it as evidence in your defense. >:

[Immortal Goat]

Well, I'M convinced now. His fantastic ability to keep a level head, along with his rational explanations for everything said in this thread have really changed my mind about this guy's parenting ability...NOT :thumsupglowbelly

In all honesty, it seems like his parents have raised more than one fuck up. Quit draining society.

[Shifty]

having a son at my age doesnt make me a fuck up. me not finishing school and dropping out and working at a gas station all my life would be a fuck up. and well im not going to do that.

[Immortal Goat]

Are you in college yet? No, you aren't. Are you going to be able to afford college? Probably not. A baby IS a full time job. You'll be too busy dealing with that kid than you will anything else, and THEN you'll either fail or drop out.

Shifty, I honestly hope that you prove all of us wrong. Not for your sake, nor for the sake of your baby mama, but for the sake of the baby. If you somehow are able to pull a miracle out of your ass, then more power to you. But it seems you have a problem pulling anything out when it is beneficial to you, so I'm not holding out much hope.

[Shifty]

Im going to finish high school. (last year) Probally go in to apprenticeship program. Work for my sisters b/f witch owns his own company installing hardwood flooring, and makes custom hand rails.

And if i do want to do something different with my life i do have the money. my parents put away a college fund for me when i was born.

Now im not saying this shit will be easy and a breeze. i know life is going to be tough for now on, but who knows i might be happy that i have a son, in the near future...

[kahljorn]

-edit- Except with less contradictions "

NEXT TIME ILL TRY NOT TO EMBODY THE SUBTLE TRUTH OF REALITY WHEN I ASSESS A SITUATION!
I mentioned that twice in this thread, though :O

Just to insert some ranting though the purpose of reproduction is CULTURIZATION it's the only possible point I can imagine- besides "survival"-, IMPROVEMENT OF THE HUMAN SPECIES. Even simple things like good parenting skills and carrying over little things you've learned in life is part of CULTURIZATION. That's what theoretically makes man so great, not his intelligence in itself but the culture behind them that stores all of his information and makes it readily accessible to everyone and their children, regardless of what happens to them. Without Culture information, skills and the other developments we have made would be lost from generation to generation, and nothing would ever improve.

[Chojin]

I think that Shifty's baby will be dead within a year, due to my perception of his inability to sound intelligent on a message board.

See, that might sound like ha ha i'm with you shifty but really, no. What is your excuse, you become an idiot when you sit down in front of a computer? You act and type like an idiot, and you apparently do idiotic things and have idiotic rationilizations. I don't think anyone here is willing to give you the benefit of a doubt when it comes to something that most grown adults aren't prepared for, let alone an idiot like you.

Also, maggie, shut up.

[Shifty]

You think that chojin.

[liquidstatik]

I'M PRETTY SURE HE WILL

[Gurlugon]

probally not, brother thats 17 years older? think not.

My brother's 20 years older than me. How can that be

Rename the kid JonBenet, maybe the fates will take the correct course for you.

[Guitar Woman]

not cool

[Gurlugon]

You think that, Guitar Woman.

[ArrowX]

Scott Don't worry about any of these fucktards, there just bitter because the majority will have just as dead end a life the rest of the world.

And dont' bring up examples like Max, Roger. Because one or two people do not make the majority any better than Shifty.

You guys should be seriously fucking ashamed of yourselves, I'd like to see any one of you be any more coherent than he is right now, after finding out your a dad before your out of school.

Especially YOU chojin, FOR SHAME! >:

[Zomboid]

You know, I have a cousin that's your age that lives in Grande Prairie. Maybe he knows you and can tell me what a fuck up you are in person. I'd honestly like to know. If you're this fucking stupid on a message board, where you have time to compose yourself and think about what you're saying before it's even put out there...I can just imagine how smart you must sound when you're speaking with someone face to face.

As for the kid...We're in Alberta. Plenty of places to put the baby up for adoption and give it a shot at a decent life, which is obviously something that you can't give it. Yeah, not all teenage parents are bad, but you're a dumbass who's in way over his head.

[Shifty]

Like to see you find someone that i would actually talk to you. i barley talk. im very quiet.


So whos your cousin?

[Chojin]

ArrowX is here to EVEN THE ODDS

[Schimid]

Oh false alarm guys, he's not immature and incomprehensive, he's just antisocial.

[ArrowX]

>:

[Chojin]

Anti-social teenage idiots make the best fathers. And if y'all got somethin ta say let's just take it out back yo this how we do

[GADZOOKS]

http://www.allojunior.org/english/images/ssdossiers/grown_ups/teenage_dad.jpg

(left to right, Shifty and Arrow X circa 2005)

THOSE WERE THE DAYS WHEN LIFE WAS SO CAREFREE.

"put your foot down when you half to"

[GADZOOKS]

So is the baby going to make it to the age of 1?

[Sticks]

Jesus Shit.

Its Shiftys choice to whether he wants to be there for the baby or not. Its both faults. Either there was some fuck up with the protection and the pills or Shifty came like a fucking monster, but who cares, thats irrelevant.

I just hope the baby will live a great life, regardless what the parents choose. I mean, if you really love each other, then there should be no problem with being together, right? If not, then do what you think is best.

I give you two credit if your atleast going to school still.

Whats the babys name? Boy or Girl?

[MLE]

I'm about to be an aunt twice over; my sister+husband (age 26/27) and my brother+sister-in-law (age 29/30) are both nervous as hell about being good parents.

This is like when someone gets their license at age 16, and they think they know everything there is to know about driving -until they get in an accident or such a close call that they need to contemplate life over again.

Shifty, I'm sure you're convinced you're going to be a great parent and all, but you just got your provisionals. You're in for a bumpy ride, son.

[zeldasbiggestfan]

Daaaaamn! This was one of the first threads I looked at! Also its when I realized you people can be really messed up.

So how is the little shit machine Shity?