What?

[Misdemonar]

Mockwars is betta.

[Jeff The Ninja]

Damn you, How dare you defy our lord and Supreme Master, General ZOD. You deserve to be thrown into space and tossed into the sun. General Zod will not tolerate any dissing of his person.

[Zod]

Mockwars is betta.
Well, well, if it isn't the Bizarro Son of Jor-El. If you were truly the opposite of the Son of Jor-El, you would be me, General Zod, the greatest being to have ever existed. Now take my hand, and swear eternal loyalty to Zod.

-Zod

[Trash]

Zod was funny around the time it was created, but now it's a little dull.

[Mike P]

You were dull around the time you were created, Trash, and, well, you still are. Look likes Zod wins.

[Zod]

Zod was funny around the time it was created, but now it's a little dull.
And the human excrement known as "The Toxic Avenger" is here as well? It appears as though all of planet Houston's most pathetic "super heroes" believe they can stand up to the might that is ZOD.

I will bring them to their knees!

[Fathom Zero]

What does your bathroom look like, Zod sir?:bow

[Zod]

What does your bathroom look like, Zod sir?:bow

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo17_earth.jpg

-Zod

[ArrowX]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/ArrowX/DiezodDie.jpg

Shut up you got your ass handed to you by superman, I could think of less homoerotic superheros.

[Marc Summers]

But you prefer not to.

[Chojin]

:lol

[noob3]

zod sucks i made fun of mockery in some zod-loving thread he made and mockery deleted my post because he was so upset

[Terra]

Zod wears a codpiece, ergo Zod is God.

[Number_6]

I have sent this website to the great and powerful Zod, showing that Superman is a fraud and looks out only for himself. He cares nothing for the slaves of Planet Houston: http://www.superdickery.com/galleries.html

[Eddie]

zod got his fingers crushed and cried like a little girl at the end of superman 2. he also got thrown up against an ice wall. You see good always wins over evil! :)

[Grislygus]

I object to your wholesale acceptance of violence in the name of good. The meek shall inherit the earth, my friend. Did Jesus kill all of the Romans? No, I think not. He let them crucify him. Because that's what it's all about. Laughing when other people burn in hell. Especially druids.

[executioneer]

You see good always wins over evil! :)

man haven't you ever seen spaceballs evil always triumphs over good because good is dumb

[Eddie]

Well I make mistakes. I get mad sometimes. I am not perfect. Believe me, God is not happy when souls go to hell. The only one that God, and all the christians are going to throw a party over, is when satan is cast into the pit of hell for all eternity.

[Esuohlim]

Well I make mistakes. I get mad sometimes. I am not perfect. Believe me, God is not happy when souls go to hell. The only one that God, and all the christians are going to throw a party over, is when satan is cast into the pit of hell for all eternity.

Hey Pat Robertson what else is God telling you these days?

[Eddie]

Well He is telling me He loves you :)

[Shifty]

Well He is telling me He loves you :)


Well god hates me quiet a bit i think.

[Pub Lover]

No way, God loves you.


Despite what you did to that girl. :x

[Eddie]

I remember Cliff Burton. Years ago when I played heavy Metal I had the Cliff em all video. He was a very good bass player. I sing and play keyboard. I have 2 cd's out. I use to party and play clubs. But now I rock for Jesus. There is nothing like it!

[Shifty]

no because i took a 'innocent' sweet little girl and "de-virginized" her and 'introduced' her to drugs and made her pregnant.

[kahljorn]

whoa whoa whoa back up a second.

I thought satan LIVED in the firey pits of hell what's so bad about being banished there for an eternity it's like a fucking sauna to him he goes there to relax after a hard days work of tormenting the earth and he removes his magic earth traveling tie he has to use to stay on earth andits VERY UNCOMFORTABLE and he rules in hell and eats alot of grapes jesus christ at least learn your mythology you junked up jesus blower.

[Eddie]

No Satan is going to be in chains bound up! You see Satan was once in heaven. He use to be a beutiful angel. But he tried to be better then God. He took his eyes off of God and said look at me! I will be like the most high. I will be better! God cast him out of heaven. The bible said he fell down like lightning out of heaven and into hell. Satan does not want to be there. So he deceived 1 third of the angels to go with him. It is like a hurting person trying to drag everyone down with them. He is saying hey if i am going to go i am taking everyone with me!

[kahljorn]

I thought the point of going to hell was that god is so merciful he made him king of hell just like he wanted.

also i thought the story of lucifer was supposed to be about individuality.

[Eddie]

God is merciful but He did not make Satan the king of hell. Hell is not a party place. Hell is a place of torture and agony. When we say hell we are talking about the lake of fire. The bible said that the people in hell are going to look at satan and say is this the one who caused all this and deceived people? He is going to be just like the rest of them burning forever. He is not a king down there. You were saying, I thought, I thought . You see it is not by what you think. It is about what is true. The devil blinds peoples minds so they cant see the truth. He is a liar and deceiever.

[Grislygus]

Now where did I put that History of Hell thread?

[kahljorn]

I thought "Satan"(actually it was the snake) told eve to eat the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. How is he deceiving people if he's giving them knowledge, seems like god is the one who was deceiving people because he wants them to remain ignorant. CAUsING IGNORANCE OF TRUTH=DECEIT
In fact after adam and eve ate the fruit he said, "Now he's like us" and if they eat again they wil, "Become like us, immortal". So um again actually God is the one deceiving because he didn't want us to know the difference between good and evil. He's selfish and territorial. He lied to us about the nature of the tree :(

"Satan" is only mentioned in the bible like three times and only once in the context of actually being an evil figure.. if that.

[Esuohlim]

How do you know Hell is a lake of fire anyway. Have you been there? Did you take any pictures?

[Eddie]

Brother the devil has got you all mixed up. Be careful what you call good, evil and evil, good. God does not decieve anyone. He gave us free will. God told Adam and Eve not to eat of that one tree. The devil disguised himself as a snake and told, Eve to go ahead and eat it. She did and conviced Adam to eat it. That is were sin all started in the garden. As for the other reply. the bible talks about hell, the lake of fire in Revelations

[kahljorn]

I don't think that the snake tricked eve.

Okay two things:
first off god said not to eat the tree because if they did they would "Surely die". They didn't die from eatting the fruit. They also weren't immortal, as clearly expressed in the fact that they hadn't eaten the tree of life.
Deception one!

The bible doesn't say anything about satan being disguised as a snake. The snake is just "Crafty". Also, when he was convincing eve to eat the fruit he told her bluntly, "he told you not to eat it because your eyes would be opened to good and evil". No deceit. Blunt truth.
"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.""

That's the only thing the snake said to eve besides asking her if god commanded them to not eat of any trees. Also, the snake is only present in like 6 verses and is never mentioned again and is never called satan. God also curses all serpents, thus fortifying the position that the serpent isn't satan but a serpent unless god made a mistake and punished serpents instead of satan.

It was EVE who said that she was deceived by the snake. The snake didn't decieve her at all, he told her the truth and she chose on her own will.

LEARN YOUR RELIGION. ZOD KNOWS AND HE WILL KICK JESUS IN THE BALLS :) I love religous arguments.

[Eddie]

OK here it is my wife just pulled out the bible to show you where it talks about the lake of fire. I would tell you where it is but I dont know if you will check it out. It is in, Revelations 20: 10 and the devil that decieved them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are and shall be tormented day and night forever and ever.

[kahljorn]

Why don't you have your wife crack open to the second book of genesis and read that and see how deceitful the snake is who tells the truth..
THE TRUTHING DECEIVER!

the whole bible is a fraud i mean god's supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient and yet he can't find adam or eve and has to ask them what happened and then doesn't realize that the serpent didn't actually deceive eve? what a bitch.

General Zod would've known. I think this thread just proves his superiority over god >:

[Eddie]

Reason being in Genesis , First thing you have to understand is God said they would surly die . And they did. They died spirtually. The reason God was looking for them in the garden was because they where dead spirtually.That which is life has fellowship with life. That which is dead cant not fellowship with life.Reason being why Jesus had to come and die on the cross and rise again was so that humanity could have fellowship ( life ) with God once again.
So in the garden what God said was true.The only way the serpent ( devil ) could enter into man was to get him to disobey God.Then that would cut God off from His plan of having life on earth.Or so the devil thought. God being all knowing all powerful had a plan all along that does destroy satan and his works. That being the blood of Jesus! It was by the death burial and ressurection that brought VICTORY over every situation in this life and the life to come.

[kahljorn]

None of that is anywhere in the bible and you are just making it up or you learned it in church and THEY were making it up.

They weren't dead and the serpent didn't lie to them. The bible doesn't say anywhere that the serpent is the devil or satan why don't you read it.

Plus that's stupid God is supposed to be omnipotent. omniscient and omnipresent doesn't mean he can only see or know life. That wouldn't be omniscient and omnipresent. fucking duh.

Again why did god punish the serpent if it was satan disguised as a serpent. shouldn't he have known? Did satan even decieve the allmightypowerful god ;) what a pussy.

[Eddie]

Everything I wrote was and is in the bible from beginging to end.It comes down to believeing and I hope and pray that your eyes of understanding has been enlighten.May you find peace and love with God.My hope is that you will recieve His great love for you.All the debates can not deny Gods love. He has loved you with an everlasting love. He will continue to love you.No matter what names you call Him. He died for you.

[Eddie]

P.s. It says in Revelation 12:9 and the great dragon was cast out ,
that old serpent,called the devil
and satan which deceieveth the whole world he was cast out into the earth and his angels where cast out with him.

[Eddie]

Zod has no power. Remember in the end of superman 2 it got stripped away from him. Just like Satan. Jesus kicked his a-- 2 thousand years ago and superman kicked Zod's. You see good always wins over evil :) :) :)

[Esuohlim]

Eddie you're tapdancing around the issue >:

[Grislygus]

Why don't you have your wife crack open to the second book of genesis and read that and see how deceitful the snake is who tells the truth..
THE TRUTHING DECEIVER!

the whole bible is a fraud i mean god's supposed to be omnipotent and omniscient and yet he can't find adam or eve and has to ask them what happened and then doesn't realize that the serpent didn't actually deceive eve? what a bitch.

General Zod would've known. I think this thread just proves his superiority over god >:

I've heard from several people who are far more intelligent than I am say that the version of Adam and Eve written in the bible isn't the original version (which was one of the works rejected for inclusion in the bible). Can anyone verify that? If it's true, I'd love to read up on the 'original'.

[Eddie]

Well the original version was written in hebrew. You can get a strongs concordance and that will help you understand the hebrew language. I would love to help you any way I can. I dont know much. My wife has a little bit of bible knowledge. I am more into the music end of it. I write and record songs for the lord. You know you can get into so many debates who is right or wrong but the whole christian walk is by faith. Jesus said blessed are they who have not seen and yet believe.

[Grislygus]

If you can help me, that's great. They've told me that Adam and Eve were in two seperate parts of the garden, the serpent was NOT Satan, (rather, the wisest of the animals who would talk with Eve), and that Satan showed up in person (in the guise of an angel) to tempt Eve.

I haven't found a single damned thing about THAT version, but enough people have told me (relatively) the same story to get me curious.

[Esuohlim]

Well the original version was written in hebrew.

I thought the original version was written by God :eek

[Grislygus]

Nothing in the bible was. That's why the only things I really trust in it (as blasphemous as it sounds) are the ten commandments and the actual teachings of Jesus. Medieval figures in the Catholic church were corrupt, self serving, and probably burning in hell right now, so I can't say I wholeheartedly trust anything else.

[Esuohlim]

Religion in general is just too illogical for me to take seriously. If Christianity and Hinduism contradict each other because one is monotheist and the other is polytheist, then what kind of arrogant jerk would I be if I said that a billion people on this earth are wrong? And what if they are, are they going to Hell just because they didn't even know Christianity existed for half of their lives? It just seems so stupid. >:

[Grislygus]

I believe that is explained by Jesus being resurrected, right? He died for our sins, went into purgatory, pardoned all the heathens and all that?

[Esuohlim]

I don't know I haven't really studied religious stuff. I find it sort of boring, but then again History is my worst subject and it sort of falls into that category.

[Grislygus]

I do spectacularly well in any History, English, or art class. Took me two and a half years to get through high school algebra, though, so I guess it all evens out in the end.

[kahljorn]

So does that mean that all serpents in the entire world are Satan, then? Because it clearly says that god curses all serpents and makes them crawl on their bellies and slither and strike men's heel. That's how the serpent was created.
Also it's fucking obvious that the snake didn't deceive eve. He told her the truth. She chose of her on volition. If I told you the truth like, "IF YOU JUMP OFF THIS BRIDGE YOU WILL SURELY DIE" and you did it anyway you couldn't say I deceived you okay and if you did you'd be deceiving yourself.

Believing and being in the bible aren't the same thing.

I hate it when people embelish as to what the bible is saying to support their bullshit religous beliefs.

According to what I understand the jews don't even believe in "the fall" or "Original sin"

[Grislygus]

Like I said, I have no idea. According to my friends, Eve wasn't decieved in the 'original' version. I can see why that would rankle certain medieval religious figures.

Though I'm not sure how she "wasn't decieved" if the devil appeared in angelic form and tempted her. Still, what they've said is consistently similar, which makes me really, really curious. If we have any religious history buffs around, set me straight here.

[kahljorn]

I think Sethomas would say that it's a protestant tradition. It might not even be orthodox catholic :(

[Eddie]

to clear up the thing about deception the serpent ( the devil) lied to Eve and said, if she eats of the fruit of good and evil, you shall not surely die. God said if you eat of the tree of good and evil, you shall surely die. One being the devil lied. That is deception. Then the devil also said, that when she eats there of, then your eyes shall be opened and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. The devil first decieved her and then tempted her. When God first made man and his wife they were naked and not ashamed. When eve saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and the tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and did eat and gave it to her husband. The eyes of both of them were opened, they knew that they were naked.
For lack of better words the word deception is better known as beguiled. In the King James bible it says, that eve said, the serpent beguiled me.
beguiled means to mislead by cheating or tricking: decieve 2. to deprive of or out of by deceit. 3. to charm or delight.

[kahljorn]

You need to read the entire chapter because uh the two trees are supposed to represent the aspects of being a god. One is the TREE OF LIFE which would give them immortality the other is the tree of good and evil and when god finds out about it he says, "Behold, they have become like us, to know good and evil and now I must remove them from the garden lest they eat of the tree of life and become immortal"
k that was like the first thing i said in this thread. that's like verse 22 or something.

they didn't die there's no where in the bible that says they died and it says that and you haven't quoted any verses I'm sorry you're making things up. They were supposed to die even if they touched it. And how can you die spiritually, what does that even mean? Please tell me what it means to die in spirit. Are you saying none of us have spirit because we can tell the difference between Good and Evil?

[Eddie]

My wife was reading this earlier and I was typing it. She was reading from Genesis Chapter 3: 3 Eve said, but of the fruit of the tree, which is in the midst of the garden God hath said ,God said you shall not eat of it,neither ye shall ye touch it,lest ye die. When she ate of the fruit of the tree is when she died and she also gave it to her husband And he died.
Now the bible doesnt say how they died but it does say they knew they where naked. When God first created them He made them not to be ashamed.When they ate they knew they where naked and hid from God.
You see they disobeyed God.That was the first sin.Disobedience is where they fell ( died ) .Sin separates you from God.Causeing you to be spiritualty dead.So yes everyone is spirtualy dead until they confess there sin and ask Jesus to come into there heart.Then they are born again. Not in the womb born again but spiritualty born again. If you read I believe its in John 3;3 . Jesus said to the nicodemus unless you be born again you cant not enter the kingdom of God.Nicodemus said how can a man be born when he is old?Can he enter a second time in his mother womb and be born?Jesus answered verily verily I say unto you expect a man be born of water and of the spirit He can not enter into the kingdom of God.That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit .

[sadie]

the way i understand it, adam and eve were originally going to live forever in the flesh. when they ate the fruit, they were cursed to die a mortal death. rebirth is about eternal life. and spiritual death is not being able to live forever spiritually speaking.

[zeldasbiggestfan]

You see good always wins over evil! :)

man haven't you ever seen spaceballs evil always triumphs over good because good is dumb They never listen!

[kahljorn]

Sadie I already tried to cover that. The tree of life was supposed to give immortality and God being afraid of them eatting the tree of life and becoming immortal is why he kicked them out.


1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

2 The woman said to the serpent, "We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "

4 "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us [as Gods], knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, [and become as us, immortal,] and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side [e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life

God just didn't want equals :( he didn't want man to be immortal.

k thanks. Yes Beguile is a better word maybe but the snake still didn't lie to her or trick her he just told her the truth and she did it because she wanted wisdom and because the fruit looked tasty. I didn't include that part but it's also in there.

They didn't die in spirit that's retarded. God was just pissed off because we weren't ignorant creatures anymore which is what he wanted-- if even that. In my opinion it's supposed to be a mythology about how man came to know the difference between good and evil. Apparantly it's GOOD and spiritual to not be able to tell the difference. That's great. Maybe if we cast out our sinful nature of being able to tell what sin is and kill everyone we see it won't be a sin because we won't be able to tell the difference!
Apparantly sociopaths are gods true chosen people-- FROM THE HEAVENS ITS THE SON OF MAN. Who are some famous sociopaths anyway? Like every Serial-killer? God loves serial killers :)

I don't see how disobeying god is either a sin or would result in the death of spirit. I guess you're saying spirit is just our ability to obey God. That's fucking stupid. I never thought that christianity was THIS retarded. It sounds like a child's gimmick.

[Eddie]

Okay , unfortanutly for you that you see it that way. You said about a childs gimmik.Jesus did say unless you have a heart like a child you will not recieve the kingdom of God. Meaning to believe.

Reasoning and logic will not help with understanding or even come close to faith.
I am sad to hear that you just do not believe the bible.It is true and I hope that you will come to believe.
We where never created to live on our own.We where created to trust in rely on God.He knows what is best for us , if you believe.
In my own personal experiance God has never disappointanted me.
Ive prayed for help in many areas of my life and God answered my prayers cause I believe.
Okay sometimes He doesnt answer them right when I wont them answered but He does answer. Gods timeing is perfect.
There has been times where I have prayed like God I need 310.00 for car insurance by the 21 st of Dec. Funny how on the 21 st I got a check in the mail for 307.89 It was like a rebate check from the insurance company.Perfect timing. God said in His word He would supply all of your needs. And He does.
Another thing that was awesome about God even though Adam and Eve disobeyed God.He still provided for them.

[Grislygus]

Reasoning and logic will not help with understanding or even come close to faith.
I am sad to hear that you just do not believe the bible.It is true and I hope that you will come to believe.
We where never created to live on our own.We where created to trust in rely on God.He knows what is best for us , if you believe.
In my own personal experiance God has never disappointanted me.
Ive prayed for help in many areas of my life and God answered my prayers cause I believe

I DO trust and rely in God. I do not, however, trust the fucks who were in the Catholic Church at the time of the bible's conception.

[Ant10708]

I never thought that christianity was THIS retarded. It sounds like a child's gimmick. Let's not forget it is featured in the Old Testament originally meant for Judism not retarded christianity. And it is a myth to explain how man learned between good and evil and why we have orginal sin.

[kahljorn]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin

Adam and Eve's sin, as recounted in the Book of Genesis is sometimes called in Hebrew החטא הקדמון (the original sin), on the basis of the traditional Christian term. But the term used in classical Jewish literature is חטא אדם הראשׁון (the sin of the first man, or of Adam).
...
The more modern liberal branches of Judaism, such as Reform Judaism and Conservative Judaism, which see no "evil" other than the evil actions of human beings, disagree with traditions that identify the serpent with Satan. Eve's only transgression was that she disobeyed God's order. Adam was with her the entire time and at no time stopped her. Therefore, it is incorrect to blame Eve alone. Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden and had to live ordinary, human lives. In other words, they had to "leave home" and grow up and live as responsible human beings. If they had never eaten from the forbidden tree, they would never have discovered their capacity to do evil. God gave Adam and Eve free will when he created them, but it was not until they ate the fruit that they became aware of the possibility of choosing to do evil or to do good, as they originally had no knowledge of both.


that page also cites Ezelekiel 18:20 which apparantly says that children are not to be held accountable for their parents sin.

[ursafan729]

Sadie I already tried to cover that. The tree of life was supposed to give immortality and God being afraid of them eatting the tree of life and becoming immortal is why he kicked them out.

It was not until AFTER they ate the forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that God kicked them out of the garden. BEFORE that, if they had eaten of the tree of life, they would have lived forever, and God wanted them to live forever in a sinless state of being, which is why He put the tree of life in the garden. But AFTER they ate the forbidden fruit and consequentially become subject to death, they were no longer sinless, and God had to kick them out because if they had eaten from the tree of life AFTER eating the forbidden fruit, they would have degenerated over the centuries into basically another Satan, so they became mortal.

[Fathom Zero]

What..?

[Eddie]

hey hey how are you guys doing? still into Zod?

[Eddie]

hey hey how are you guys doing?

[MLE]

Jesus christ there's a lot of WORDS on this page.