dead Israeli sperm

[Ant10708]

Victory in dead Israeli sperm row

The lawyer of an Israeli couple who won the right to use their dead son's sperm to inseminate a woman he never met says the case is a boost for family rights.

Irit Rosenblum told the BBC the landmark ruling meant family lines could continue even without the written consent of the male prior to death.

The dead man, soldier Keivin Cohen, was killed in the Gaza Strip in 2002.

A court ruled in favour of his parents who had the sperm extracted after his death, although he had not left a will.

"The drama is international, that mankind is able to continue after [a man's] death and his family can raise a new generation while he is no longer here," Ms Rosenblum said.

The Cohen family took legal action after the hospital where their son's sperm was stored refused to release it, saying only a spouse could make such a request.


Although Mr Cohen, 20, was single and had left no written expression of his desire to become a father, his family claimed that had long been his wish.

The Cohens appealed for volunteers who were willing to be impregnated with the sperm and raise the child.

In an interview on Israel's Channel 10 news, Mr Cohen's mother, Rachel, said more than 200 women offered to help, AFP news agency reported.

During the four-year legal case, Ms Rosenblum presented testimony from Mr Cohen's family and friends that he had said he wanted children.

On Monday a court in Tel Aviv said the family could use the sperm to impregnate a 25-year-old woman who had agreed to be the mother.

"It's a great gain even though it took so long," Ms Rosenblum, a family rights advocate, told the BBC.

"It's a dream come true... On the one hand [the Cohens] lost a child, on the other hand they got some hope."

[Grislygus]

Holy shit.

[DehydratedPorkMan]

Holy shit.

My thought exactly. I'd say it's an extreme way to just make more Jews, but that's just plain creepy.

[Emu]

I don't really see what's so awkward about wanting grandkids.

[FartinMowler]

Dead man sperm will be the name of my new band :love

[Grislygus]

I mean, this is something Japan would think of.

[DehydratedPorkMan]

I mean, this is something Japan would think of.

I believe they have a vending machine for that.

[Abcdxxxx]

My thought exactly. I'd say it's an extreme way to just make more Jews, but that's just plain creepy.

What the hell does this have to do with making more Jews?
What makes you think these people are religious at all??
The Rabbis there don't recognize test tube babies as Jews anyway last I checked. This shit just makes me want to become a baptist and read Bill Cosby books...but hey, I told you all Israel is progressive.

[DehydratedPorkMan]

My thought exactly. I'd say it's an extreme way to just make more Jews, but that's just plain creepy.

What the hell does this have to do with making more Jews?
What makes you think these people are religious at all??
The Rabbis there don't recognize test tube babies as Jews anyway last I checked. This shit just makes me want to become a baptist and read Bill Cosby books...but hey, I told you all Israel is progressive.

Learn to take a joke.
Sarcasm is rampant throughout these boards, so don't take everything that is said on here as a personal attack on you. Chances are, the person who made the comment doesn't even know who the hell you are - and even if they do, they don't care enough to address you personally. So don't go chasing them around in a ton of different threads trying to attack them. It's a humor site, so try to develop a sense of humor.

[DehydratedPorkMan]

[quote=DehydratedPorkMan]
My thought exactly. I'd say it's an extreme way to just make more Jews, but that's just plain creepy.

What the hell does this have to do with making more Jews?
What makes you think these people are religious at all??
The Rabbis there don't recognize test tube babies as Jews anyway last I checked. This shit just makes me want to become a baptist and read Bill Cosby books...but hey, I told you all Israel is progressive.

Learn to take a joke.
Sarcasm is rampant throughout these boards, so don't take everything that is said on here as a personal attack on you. Chances are, the person who made the comment doesn't even know who the hell you are - and even if they do, they don't care enough to address you personally. So don't go chasing them around in a ton of different threads trying to attack them. It's a humor site, so try to develop a sense of humor.

[DehydratedPorkMan]

GODDAMNIT.

[Abcdxxxx]

Uh. I responded. There was even a joke or two in there. I didn't take it personal. I even made sure to post it just once, as opposed to 3 times.

[mburbank]

Ant- the man in the wookie suit in your user pic is a pal of mine from work. He was the lead designer on the Star Wars museum exhibit. He is neither a test tube baby nor a Jew.

[DehydratedPorkMan]

I hate my laggy computer. This is were I would be called a "n00bz0rs." abcdxxxx...forgive me?

[FartinMowler]

I remember when a guy like me couldn't post in this section :) I miss those day's of segregation and being put down by the man :/

[ItalianStereotype]

don't get us wrong, fartin, we don't WANT you to post here.

[Ant10708]

Ant- the man in the wookie suit in your user pic is a pal of mine from work. He was the lead designer on the Star Wars museum exhibit. He is neither a test tube baby nor a Jew.Sweet, he is throwing a baseball in that picture?

[Jeanette X]

My thought exactly. I'd say it's an extreme way to just make more Jews, but that's just plain creepy.

What the hell does this have to do with making more Jews?
What makes you think these people are religious at all??
The Rabbis there don't recognize test tube babies as Jews anyway last I checked. This shit just makes me want to become a baptist and read Bill Cosby books...but hey, I told you all Israel is progressive.

Artifical insemination isn't the same as having a test tube baby.

[DehydratedPorkMan]

Divide! Divide!

[Abcdxxxx]

Artifical insemination isn't the same as having a test tube baby.

Act like you know something sometime, Jeanette. Since you don't decide Halachic code, let's defer to Israel's Rabbinute who have never ruled on this consistantly on that difference. They have decided that a Man needs to be able to consent, and aware of the insemination in line with scriptures (Genesis specifically). The mother still has to be Jewish, and all that - you can't just make more Jews through science. That's outlawed.

[kahljorn]

Jews are fucking weird ;/
HE MUST BE OF PURE BLOOD OF PURE BIRTH OR THE MAGIC OF GODS CHOSEN WILL NOT FLOW WITHIN THEM

[Abcdxxxx]

Do you think Jews are the only people with such a policy?

[Ant10708]

yeah and they are the only 'people' to still drink the blood of christian babies.

[Abcdxxxx]

That last part is true at least. Nobody else wants your sour blood. We just have the common sense to mix it in with a little Manischevitz first.

Unfortunately we don't have a monopoly on the blood line thing. Cookies, yes. Bloodlline, no. Good thing that Ant is astute enough to put "people" in quotes...we're not people, we're aliens. Pyramid building aliens.

[Preechr]

Amazing. See, I always thought aliens built the pyramids even though the Bible says Jews did it and now I know both things are true.

[kahljorn]

no. I know the KKK had a thing about pure blood or something :O
So do you not get into heaven if you're not a full jew, or do they just not let you go to church? What's the deal?

ps im just fucking with you with the kkk argument i don't liken jews to the kkk

[Abcdxxxx]

It's just weird to me when people use the bloodlines thing to paint Jews as having a superiority complex.

In religious terms, it's the Jewish spirit which is most important, not bloodlines, and that's how converstion is rationalized. In political terms, it's no different then laws in place within Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and many African nations. All Westen nations give preference in the way of social services to those born into automatic citizenship. It's true, Jews find themselves in a neverending debate within their own communities over who is or isn't deemed a Jew, but it's nothing compared to what goes on in Islamic communities, and I believe it exists in some form with Christians too. So again, while Jews do have many unique traditions (ie. wearing horns and flying around the room), this particular one isn't unique.

I realize you're joking, but I'm answering this anyway because it seems to bother people.