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Anonymous
Apr 12th, 2003, 11:14 PM
i want to dj

what do i need to learn
what do i need to do

soundtest
Apr 12th, 2003, 11:24 PM
Get some decks, records, a mixer with crossfader, decent headphones and practice. Technics 1200s are pricey but they never die and are the standard. Anything else you buy you'll probably end up replacing for 1200s down the road anyway if you stick with it. I know nothing about spinning CDs but I've got friends who do - any questions about that I could pass on to them if you like.

Do you play any instruments? Do you ever fuck around with any MIDI/audio software?

::Do you have any of your tracks online?

Anonymous
Apr 12th, 2003, 11:27 PM
i play guitar and can 'sing,' but i used to do piano 'back in the day'

i can use goldwave and soundforge and zero-x beatcreator and have chopped down some songs to DDR time (1:30-1:48) with it, but only barely have used fruityloops...and that's the extent of my midi knowledge.

wreck was showing me some mp3 player device you can hook into a mixer a while back, but he's not online right now

*I'll upload the original and my shortened, slightly-remixed versions of songs now. gimme a sec

Cap'n Crunch
Apr 13th, 2003, 01:02 AM
I'm trying to learn how to play a guitar. I got a free acoustic, and I started playing stuff on there. I bought one of those instructional things and it is going along great. As for the DJ, my brother's friend is a disc jockey. It is pretty simple stuff. If you buy the stuff, the money comes back really quick. I can get him to answer some of the questions you have if soundteset doesn't give them to you first.

Secret Agent Vomit
Apr 13th, 2003, 01:14 AM
I can play the drums and piano/keyboard. :)

Mockery
Apr 13th, 2003, 01:25 AM
Well you know the saying...

"DJ's - the people that make drummers look like musicians."

Evil Robot
Apr 13th, 2003, 02:47 AM
You may be able to play the guitar, but can you play THE PHONE?

GnrySgtHartman
Apr 13th, 2003, 03:13 AM
Excellent upright citizens brigade reference :lol

Evil Robot
Apr 13th, 2003, 03:17 AM
shu up

UnDeath
Apr 13th, 2003, 05:34 AM
Well you know the saying...

"DJ's - the people that make drummers look like musicians."
:(
at least I dont claim to be a musician...

The Unseen
Apr 13th, 2003, 08:20 AM
I play guitar and piano/keyboard :)

Spectre X
Apr 13th, 2003, 08:40 AM
I play guitar and keyboard as well. well, I'm better with the guitar than the keyboard :/

Matt Harty
Apr 13th, 2003, 08:49 AM
I play guitar and don't know the first thing about keyboards.

FartinMowler
Apr 13th, 2003, 08:51 AM
I play bass and I use a CD that DJ's use called "Drummers guide to hiphop, house, new jack swing, hip house, Soca house. With a mixer you can start to make songs. there are some cheap programs that you can buy from http://www.cakewalk.com/djs.asp
but I think that you need to have a powerful computer or you will have problems.

liquidstatik
Apr 13th, 2003, 09:34 AM
I play a little guitar(as in I can play A :( ) I play alot of keyboard/piano and play the drums. Ive always wanted to make techno shit, but haven't got around to buying any computer software or turntables or anything :(

Anonymous
Apr 13th, 2003, 11:13 AM
These are some songs I've shortened into DDR time, while changing around measures and cutting some out so everything would flow betta. Or something. They're both here so you can compare.

DJ Stompy - Crazy
original (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/DJ%20Stompy%20-%20Crazy_long.mp3)| short (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/DJ%20Stompy%20-%20Crazy.mp3)

Melanie C. - I Turn To You
original (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/Melanie%20C%20-%20I%20Turn%20To%20You_long.mp3)| short (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/Melanie%20C%20-%20I%20Turn%20To%20You.mp3)

Paul Oakenfold - Firewalk
original (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/Paul%20Oakenfold%20-%20Firewalk_long.mp3)| short (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/Paul%20Oakenfold%20-%20Firewalk.mp3)

Simon & Milo - Sucks To Be You
original (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/Simon%20&%20Milo%20-%20Sucks%20To%20Be%20You_long.mp3)| short (http://www.popndeth.com/deejay/Simon%20&%20Milo%20-%20Sucks%20To%20Be%20You.mp3)

Cancer
Apr 13th, 2003, 11:28 AM
I'll get you, Chojin.

Anonymous
Apr 13th, 2003, 11:30 AM
:o

soundtest
Apr 13th, 2003, 12:44 PM
Well you know the saying...

"DJ's - the people that make drummers look like musicians."

I see what you're saying, but too often those are the same people that say people who use synthesizers and samplers are 'cheating' and not real musicians either because "those computers are doing all the work!!".

I think all electronic gear - decks included - are just tools and how you use them blah blah. I'd be quicker to call somebody who remixed a song I hated into a song I actually liked a musician before I'd call somebody a musician just because they can play the same 2 notes 30 times in a second on a guitar solo masturbation session.

I checked a couple of your links and they sound good Chojin - nothing jumps out in an obvious "that's where he cut it" way. What do you want to actually do when you say DJ though? Play other people's music at clubs? Remix? Produce and spin your own?

Professor Cool
Apr 13th, 2003, 01:09 PM
Sorta off-topic: i just heard your re-mixes, good stuff soundtest :)

slavemason
Apr 13th, 2003, 01:13 PM
I don't think I understand Chojin's creations. I'm not familiar with any of the names and I don't know what the originals sound like. Has there been a big change made? Someone other than Chojin may have to clue me in as I suspect he will tell me to shut up. Just curious, are you able to load these into your dance machine? I'd like to program some polka up into that mugh.

soundtest
Apr 13th, 2003, 01:19 PM
The tracks Chojin did have been rearranged, and unless I'm dead wrong I believe the tempo has been adjusted. I think I heard some other effects, but I'm listening through laptop speakers right now so I don't trust my hearing. They've been remixed.

And thanks Prof. :)

Matt Harty
Apr 13th, 2003, 02:18 PM
Good job of shortening them up.

Do you make the steps for them too?

Mockery
Apr 13th, 2003, 03:05 PM
Well you know the saying...

Just like "Those who can't do, teach"... there's "Those who can't play, DJ"

o.o

Anonymous
Apr 13th, 2003, 03:08 PM
I wanna DJ

Matt Harty
Apr 13th, 2003, 03:12 PM
I used to scratch my records on my record player when I was little. I saw it on home video.

Mockery
Apr 13th, 2003, 03:25 PM
Well you know the saying...

"Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist."

liquidstatik
Apr 13th, 2003, 05:21 PM
You know the saying....

"Shut the fuck up with your stupid ass sayings :("

Mockery
Apr 13th, 2003, 05:27 PM
Well you know the saying...

"Art is work, to sell it is art."

The Retro Kat
Apr 13th, 2003, 05:29 PM
I think we all need to mellow out.

liquidstatik
Apr 13th, 2003, 05:30 PM
I never heard any of them. I think a heard the one about the musician and food stuff, but thats about the only one. :/

mew barios
Apr 13th, 2003, 05:34 PM
i find rog to be very insightful. also i like to make music. i recorded something just this morning in fact. i think i'll reward myself by eating tooday. hooray! :D

liquidstatik
Apr 13th, 2003, 05:43 PM
:lol

Mockery
Apr 13th, 2003, 06:01 PM
Well you know the saying...

"Maturity is only a short break in adolescence."

liquidstatik
Apr 13th, 2003, 06:13 PM
You know the saying....

"It's better to be pissed off, than to be pissed on :("

Matt Harty
Apr 13th, 2003, 06:18 PM
You know the saying....

"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"

Anonymous
Apr 14th, 2003, 03:15 PM
Don't know how I can explain it better...I included the original version of the song and then the version I made, which is shortened and rearranged for DDR.

But anyway, I want to spin live and make my own music at home too.

SkepticalTesticle
Apr 14th, 2003, 03:22 PM
Give up while your ahead. You'll never be a dj and you'll spend the rest of your life in staines! NEVR! What the fuck is the point anyways, you'll just be another dumbass spinning the same records as everyone else. Just because you can drop a beat in a different place or tweak the eq to make those cool sounds...

Anonymous
Apr 14th, 2003, 03:23 PM
I don't know a single person that spins Dancemania/Dancemaniax/DDR.

glowbelly
Apr 14th, 2003, 04:23 PM
talk to sam cook, chojin. he made the dead cat song. he says it's easy.

Anonymous
Apr 14th, 2003, 05:30 PM
Making loops is easish and OJB could teach me, I'm just interested in what equipment I'd need to spin at parties and where I should start.

whoreable
Apr 14th, 2003, 05:47 PM
my friend jsut has 2 turntables a crossfader and some headphones and has it hooked into his home stereo....just enough stuff to learn how to spin..

although I really know nothing about it I would suggest to jsut buy some cheap tables and fader to start with I wouldnt blow so much money on really expensive stuff...see if you even like it...

I pretty much sucked at it when I tried, but I guess it was kinda fun to fuck with for a while :/

SkepticalTesticle
Apr 14th, 2003, 06:11 PM
1- WASHTUB + STRING & BROOMSTICK
1- KAZOO
10-GLASS JUGS
2- SPOONS
1- WASHBOARD
2- JAW-HARPS
1- COMB WITH WAX PAPER
AND ALOT OF PLASTIC BUCKETS FILLED WITH WATER

ziggytrix
Apr 14th, 2003, 11:57 PM
Making loops is easish and OJB could teach me, I'm just interested in what equipment I'd need to spin at parties and where I should start.

Headphones and if you're really anal, your own cartridges/needles, your records/cds, and time is all you need to play out. Depending on where you want to play, you can invest money into the hobby as you need to. To date, all I own are a pair of Sony MDJ700s (now starting to wear out after 2 years of heavy use), a pair of Shure carts and a few hundred records.

As far as where to start, find someone with turntables or cd mixers that you can practice on. Until you know you're serious, there is no good reason to dump six hundred to a grand into equipment, when that money will go much further in buying records.

If you do decide to go with CDs, most clubs should be equpieed to handle you, but many mobile gigs would need you to bring your own CD mixers. No mobile gig should ever ask you to supply the turntables.

For you, personally, if you were willing to spend a bit of cash on equipment, your best bet would be to get a couple solid CDJs like the Pioneer CDJ100. They run about 300 bux each, and you'd still need a mixer, but you could play with those on a home sound system to practice, or use them in a mobile gig set-up, and you can play your own tunes on them a lot easier than getting vinyl cut, that's for damn sure.

sadie
Apr 15th, 2003, 12:13 AM
ziggy. :)

ziggytrix
Apr 16th, 2003, 08:07 PM
hi sadie. :)

Anonymous
Apr 17th, 2003, 12:18 AM
Wreck showed me this neat thing called Final Scratch that stores mp3s, then uses special records to spin them. You never need to change the records until they die and all your music is in one neat lil box.

Matt Harty
Apr 17th, 2003, 04:34 PM
So much for being a DJ

Anonymous
Apr 17th, 2003, 04:52 PM
You still mix the music, you dum-dum.