Adamsite

[Gabby GaGa]

Adamsite is a warfare device
So eveasite is his wife
Adamsite
began as Innosite

(adamsite is a warfare bomb gas,
a manipulation of the masses)

kissex,
Gabby GaGa

[Idi Amin]

The hell you talkin' 'bout

you tryin' ta fight me.

I whup yo ass

[Gabby GaGa]

I dont dig Necrocombat, Idi.
Maybe if i got suveniers,
legs, arms.
Yeah.

Bring it.

[Idi Amin]

"Necrocombat" You are more clever than I originally took you for.

I will be more direct: Tell me how this is not a useless thread; "So eveasite is his wife" what the hell?

[Gabby GaGa]

This is the Art shit thread

correct?

that is a poem.

IF adamsite is a warfare device, a product of distruction,
then there must be a creatorof such a devious device.

Eve led Adam into damnation

Eveasite is a representation of the obvious.

Adamsite was probably a Windex product before the government got ahold of it.

You desperatley need to create a poem thread.
or liturature
something of that nature.

[Idi Amin]

i hate poetry

[MLE]

poems go in recommended reading. not art shit.

[MattJack]

Poems go in the fire, with the rest of the books.

[Jeanette X]

Eve led Adam into damnation



No she didn't, at least not according to Judaism.

[Gabby GaGa]

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[Gabby GaGa]

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[Gabby GaGa]

No she didn't, at least not according to Judaism

Adam and Eve is an idea accessable to most people.

But thats a good point.

Still, Eve is a good reprenstation of deception
something seductive that can only lead to entrapment.

The downfall of Adamsite.

[Jeanette X]

Deception? She herself was decieved by the serpent. She didn't decieve Adam.

Please read the Bible before you try to interpret what it says.

[Grislygus]

Didn't you people ever read Milton? Women are just plain inferior, jeez louise.

[Jeanette X]

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Why'd you post a bunch of asterisks? :confused:

[MLE]

she probably triple-posted or something. Anyways -this is the wrong forum. please make a note of it.

[Gabby GaGa]

Genesis 3:
"the serpent, which was the most cunning of all the creatures the Lord god had made,
asked the woman,
"is it true that god has forbidden you to eat from any tree in the garden?
2. She replied, "we may eat the fruit of any tree in the garden, except for the tree
in the middle of the garden. God has forbidden us to eat the fruit from that tree,
or even to touch it"
So you see, Eve had a clear understanding of what was off limits. She knew she would be doing wrong.
lets continue:

" and the serpent said "of course you shall not die, for god knows that as soon as you eat it,
you will both be like god himself"

"the woman looked at the tree: it was pleasing to the eye, and desirable because of the knowledge
it could give. So she took some and ate it..."
Again, another example of someone wanting to be greater then its creator. Despite the fact
that she knew the consequences, Eve still desired to be greater then god.

So, how did this fruit get into Adams hands?
Genesis says simply "she gave it to her husband, and he ate it too"
But why did the serpent choose the female? Because of her seductive nature. The serpent is aware
that Adam is under the hypnotic spell of the female, the bearer of life.
Adam is a representation of the male-female relationship. The males plays the poor dumb boy part,
open to any suggestion or coercion from "mom". The female uses the male to attain what she wants.
Damn the boy, and any innocents, she will use herself to get what she wants.
So eve was equally as erroneous as the serpent
because eve knew better.

[Jeanette X]

Eve clearly understood that the tree was off-limits, but Adam did too. He is clearly just as culpable as Eve.

Your notions about male-female relationships are very unhealthy, Gabby. Do you really view men as a bunch of dumb boys to coerce?

[Gabby GaGa]

I view the history of statistics.
and conclude that women are manipulitive bitches.
See, the problem with your logic,
is the use of a teqnique that most politicians use.
Instead of sticking to the topic,
you turn the argument around on your opponent.
I view men as creatures that should be served by women.
We are supposed to be the submissive half of humanity.
I really do believe that men should be able to direct women,
instead of be manipulated by them.
If you noticed,
the last line is
"adamsite began as innosite"

[Grislygus]

So you have read Milton.

[Jeanette X]

I view the history of statistics.
and conclude that women are manipulitive bitches.

Might I see these statistics that you are citing? Any formal, peer-reviewed studies on the "manipulitive bitch" population?

See, the problem with your logic,
is the use of a teqnique that most politicians use.
Instead of sticking to the topic,
you turn the argument around on your opponent.

Only because the arguement appears to be utterly convuluted.

I view men as creatures that should be served by women.
We are supposed to be the submissive half of humanity.
I really do believe that men should be able to direct women,
instead of be manipulated by them.

Then get off the Internet, go get pregnant, and get back into the kitchen!

WHERE'S MY DINNER?! WOMAN, COOK ME A STEAK!

[Gabby GaGa]

Women have been manipulative since our evolution. mostly due to the male supremicy pattern
dominate throughout history.
Men did the majority of hunting, and designated the women to cook the catches. Greedy as
they were, males would keep the larger share of food.
Subsequently, women had to develop manipulation skills to extract food and other goods from
the males.
Quote:
Might I see these statistics that you are citing?
Women are statistically more frequent shoplifters then men.
Women are usually the aggressors in a break-up with, or divorce from, their husband/spouse.

Don't get me wrong though, women are also beautiful creatures. They aren't all
manipulitve. But the many of them are.
most men will agree with this.


quote:
Only because the arguement appears to be utterly convuluted.

not a sufficient answer.
WHERE'S MY DINNER?! WOMAN, COOK ME A STEAK!

no one said women weren't picky
about the guys they "cook" for.

[kahljorn]

there's been women leaders of various societies.

and what the fuck are you using the bible as culpability for what male and female social structures are all about?


If some women are manipulative because it's the only type of power they can use i don't see your argument that they are manipulative by nature. Just because they are physically smaller means they are necessarily going to be manipulative?
Don't men manipulate? yes. if anything you are saying any person who is physically smaller will be manipulative, which sounds like the humors.

and what's the point? So a woman manipulates a few people, and a man savagely murders a few or some other cliche - which one is worse?

[Gabby GaGa]

are you seriously saying that women are not manipulative?

As the owner of a penis, and most likley a credit card,
you should know otherwise.

Men aren't manipulitive.
Violent, yes.
they lie occasionaly.

But manipulation would imply some sort planning.
Men aren't planners. They're compulsive by nature.

If you don't think that women manipulate,
you have some tough lessons to learn with future relationships.

So a woman manipulates a few people, and a man savagely murders a few or some other cliche -

There have been sever serial killer women.
Women tend to be more emotionally driven,
which means they aren't as likley to kill.

However, a females emotions may be so strong to the point of horrific murder.
Take, for example, Lizzie Borden

She hacked her family, sisters, mother, to death,
cut of cody parts, and decapitated one.

I agree, though, men are a just as cruel as women. But in different way.

Women are usually concerned with the feelings of others. So while they may be manipulating behind your back, they still aren't intent on hurting men, and want to make their misdeeds lesser, just to help the male. When women know they've done something wrong, they are more inclined to feel genuine guilt.

Men on the other hand, will perform harmful acts, with disregard for females.

Women do alot of shit behind your back.
because they're great manipulators,
you never find out.



and what the fuck are you using the bible as culpability for what male and female social structures are all about?


ah, every great argument has contained the word "fuck" in it.
Again,
I didn't so much use the bible
as i did the concept of adam and eve. Everyone knows who they are.
while I dont believe in the bible,
I enjoy it as a story.
If you read it even once you would have noted that it contains alot about human nature,
some pieces of which are still true today.

I win
you lose.

[Gabby GaGa]

Its a good poem, and you know it.
You just want to be argumentitive.

not that thats a bad thing.

[Chojin]

I think the reason everyone loves arguing with you is because you see everything as cut and dry, and you only back it up your various 'findings' with analogies. The only person you're impressing is yourself, and you're no closer to figuring out the world - let alone human nature - than the asshole who lives behind the 7-eleven.

And now, you get to tell me all about how bums have an incredible world-view due to an experience you had. DO IT, DOG!

[Gabby GaGa]

i dont see anything as cut and dry. Everything is a variable.

I suggest you finish reading the Media Observance thread.

I dont believe in experiences. Experience is subjective. Perception is not knowledge, except in some rare cases.

Bums are so smelly that even the hippy community rejected them. They should be scrubbed down and put to usefull work.
Just like you.

And poetry IS an anology, you blithering idiot.

[kahljorn]

This must be part of her experiment again. Dumb arguments that are easy to beat.


Experiences are subjective, and yet women are all vagina tooths.

Perception is not knowledge, and yet without seeing hearing smelling tasting or feeling we wouldn't know anything or even really exist.


I wrote better poetry than that when I was 15. Unless you're a 15 year old person you write crappy poetry.

Some women might be manipulative. So what? Correlation does not equal causation. Some men are manipulators. If you want archetypes or HUMOURS or something just look at Caesar by Shakespeare when he's talking about how he doesn't trust skinny men because because they are manipulative then you know brutus stabs him in his back but that isn't relevant i guess.

Men aren't planners? What? So what's going on with like every piece of architecture since the dawn of man? Designed by women, or were men planning some of them?

What does horrific murder have to do with women being serial killers?
None of what you said substantiates as proving that women are manipulators. Do you know what proof is?

I don't own a credit card and my debit card has never been abused.

are you a character?
cause im thinking lenor or fartinmowler

[Gabby GaGa]

Seriously, I dont get this "character" thing.
damn internet slang.

No, men are not planners. I speak of course, about the personal lives of men, not their careers. Persons with jobs are planners.
If you had a job you would know that.

What does horrific murder have to do with women being serial killers?
Please re-read. Im don't repeat myself for close minded ass-munches.

I'll point out, on the architecture bit, that women were the insperation for most greek architecture.

What is one consistent figure that we see throughout art? The female figure.
It's on the facades of buildings, the brushstrokes of artists, and the chants of poets.

So if women can be seductive enough to be plastered on just about every available humanity,
what's to say they aren't using that to their advantage?

Do you realize that you're arguing with a female, about whether or not females are manipulators?
Don't you think that I might have some inside information? After all, I am speaking from the FEMALE perspective.

You percieve through the masculine view. You're the one getting duped.
So you honestly believe that women are these sweet little creatures that don't have a manipulative thought go through their head?


Experiences are subjective, and yet women are all vagina tooths.

That is an illogical statement. Are you buzzed?

Perception is not knowledge, and yet without seeing hearing smelling tasting or feeling we wouldn't know anything or even really exist.

Okay. Perception does not equal educated knowledge.

Also, in debates or arguments, you shouldn't use opperative words like "any" "always" and "never". Everything is a variable. There is no definite "any always" or "never"
That wasn't a mock. I've been brought down before in debates,
simply because people will latch on to use of those words.

I wrote better poetry than that when I was 15. Unless you're a 15 year old person you write crappy poetry.

Yeah yeah, you used that joke before
Creativity! Something new, please, i beg of you.

[kahljorn]

You're one to talk of creativity, you have a redundant personality.

"Don't you think that I might have some inside information? After all, I am speaking from the FEMALE perspective."

Aren't I arguing from the male perspective saying males can also be manipulating jerks? Don't you think that I might have some inside information?

"I'll point out, on the architecture bit, that women were the insperation for most greek architecture.

What is one consistent figure that we see throughout art? The female figure.
It's on the facades of buildings, the brushstrokes of artists, and the chants of poets. "

What does any of that have to do with designing and building anything or planning a war or economic system or philosophy or family policy or something like that. Men plan, its retarded of you to say otherwise.
Men plan to goto the beach sometimes
sometimes they plan to go skiing
othertimes they plan to go to movies with their girlfriends.
sometimes they plan to steal girlfriends from their friends
sometimes they plan to steal the election
or plan to make a killing on the stock market
or betray a friend to make a killing at the stock market

What about judas goat bitch for a religous example you like that one yea that's what i thought that guy screwed jesus over!
SCREWED
and dont give me any crap about how he's jesus most trusted father EXCEPT mary magalanus his favorite

"So if women can be seductive enough to be plastered on just about every available humanity,
what's to say they aren't using that to their advantage?"

What's to say they aren't? What does that really matter? so because women are placed in a situation in which they can use their bodies and sexuality like any animal to get what they want or need means they are evil manipulators and men are perfectly innocent? Don't men also present their bodies to women?
There's no substantiation going on here at all I'm sorry.

Anyway you've already admitted men plan just not in a PERSONAL settng whatever that means i guess because they can build houses means they can't plan a date or plan an evening or plan anything it's all different you have to have different types of planning skills at least seven types of planning skills to be a woman
men only have four, at max
case closed kahljorn.

PSYCHOLOGY OF GAB

[Gabby GaGa]

Men are more compulsive then women.
"i wanna fuck you"
"hey, lets get drunk tonight"
"Look at that midget!!!!!"

Women:
"Howabout you, I, and Sarah go see that new movie this weekend?"
"I've been thinking about sleeping with him, But I think i'll lead him on a little longer,
and see if I can't get a few more free dinners and movies out of the situation"
"Stop looking at that midget"

You're making no sense Kahl.
these sound like the rantings of a drunk person.
To start with, you turned the argument around.



""So if women can be seductive enough to be plastered on just about every available humanity,
what's to say they aren't using that to their advantage?""

"What's to say they aren't?"

YOU!

I dont think you even know what point you're arguing.
What does that really matter? so because women are placed in a
situation in which they can use their bodies and sexuality like any animal to get what they want or
need means they are evil manipulators and men are perfectly innocent?

I never said men were PERFECTLY innocent. But damn near close.
And yes, using your body to get what you want IS scuzzy.
Using sexuality for reasons purley lustful is absolutley acceptable.
Once you start using yourself to get something, thats prostitution.
Again,
I dont think you know what point you're arguing.
:moon :moon :moon :moon :moon :moon :moon :moon

[kahljorn]

"Yea ive been taking her out to dinner so i can stick my penis in her"
"Yea we've been going to the movies so i can stick my penis in her"
"Yea i told her i loved her so i could stick my penis in her"

manipulation.

women can be just as compulsive. IM GOING SHOPPING. IM BREAKING UP WITH YOU. GET YOUR PENIS OUT OF MY VAGINA. if anything women are MORE compulsive than men and I would say that's more their problem than anything.
case dismissed!

"I dont think you even know what point you're arguing."

Don't men also do the same things is the point I'm arguing. THAT SECRET KERNEL WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE QUESTION MARK.

[Gabby GaGa]

but thats just the problem. The poor men don't know any better because they're thinking with their penises.

ahahah..you just proved my point -
"im breaking up with you!!! Ya rotten bastard"

"But..no..NO! I NEED YOU"

"Too bad. Fuck you"

"Ill give you stuff, sweety. Whatever you want. its yours"

"well..okay. I love you again"

Yeah, men do the same things. BUT IN A LESSER DEGREE.

Women are manipulitive to GAIN something. Stuff they dont even need, like extra money.
Men are just manipulitive because its natural to want penis-cozies.

This is rediculous. We're arguing AGAINST our own genders.

Nope. I get the last word.

[kahljorn]

I'm not arguing against any gender I'm just reminding you that you're stupid.
Men don't gain anything for manipulating people? Yea I guess men usually get jobs or money or something for manipulating people. That's sarcastic by the way, since I've noticed you have problems picking up on it. Notice how the question looks like it's in contradiction to the answer, that is because you're stupid :(

how's that for a last word genderwargirl.

[Womti]

I think the reason everyone loves arguing with you is because you see everything as cut and dry, and you only back it up your various 'findings' with analogies. The only person you're impressing is yourself, and you're no closer to figuring out the world - let alone human nature - than the asshole who lives behind the 7-eleven.

And now, you get to tell me all about how bums have an incredible world-view due to an experience you had. DO IT, DOG!

imagine how many threads I could respond to with this. brilliant!

[Chojin]

HEY WOMTI WANNA GO MAKE OUT UNDER THE BLEACHERS?

Oh shit, I mean, uh,

HEY WOMTI LET'S PLAN A MAKINGS OUT UNDER THE BLEACHERS?

Calling you stupid is getting old, Gabby, and it's not like anyone needs the warning anymore. Everything you know is wrong. Your understanding of human nature is based on ridiculous assertions, and you're the worst philosopher since Bill Goldberg.

[Grislygus]

You people stop tearing her down and leave me some ammo for the grudge match. Selfish bastards.

[kahljorn]

dont worry grisslebees even im getting bored with her and I can entertain myself with stupid people endlessly usually.

[Jeanette X]

Women are statistically more frequent shoplifters then men.
Women are usually the aggressors in a break-up with, or divorce from, their husband/spouse.
So? Whites are statsitically more frequent shoplifters than blacks, but it hardly means that whites are more manipulative than blacks.

As for the women being the instigator of break-ups, again, I say....SO?! Did you ever stop to think of why the woman might want to break up with a man? Maybe he doesn't treat her with respect? Maybe he's even manipulative towards her?

I'd like to point out to you that sociopathy is far more common in men than in women, and if you know half as much about psychology as you claim to, you would be aware of how manipulative sociopaths are.


Don't get me wrong though, women are also beautiful creatures.


Dear Lord, is this the best attribute of our sex that you could think of to mitigate manipulativeness in your comparison? That we are beautiful and that's it? I think you've got a major case of internalized misogyny. (I can play armchair psychologist too, you know)

[Jeanette X]

dont worry grisslebees even im getting bored with her and I can entertain myself with stupid people endlessly usually.

I'm far from done. I'm going to gnaw on her until the her bones are clean, and then I'm going to gnaw on the bones and suck the marrow out. :yum

[Womti]

HEY WOMTI WANNA GO MAKE OUT UNDER THE BLEACHERS?

Oh shit, I mean, uh,

HEY WOMTI LET'S PLAN A MAKINGS OUT UNDER THE BLEACHERS?

is that sarcasm? http://e.vampirefreaks.com/emotes/hmm.gif

[Jeanette X]

If you don't think that women manipulate,
you have some tough lessons to learn with future relationships.

Is this how you handle your relationships? Manipulate?


I'll point out, on the architecture bit, that women were the insperation for most greek architecture.


Yeah...those Doric columns...the fluting....so seductive...:wank

Do you realize that you're arguing with a female, about whether or not females are manipulators?
Don't you think that I might have some inside information? After all, I am speaking from the FEMALE perspective.
You percieve through the masculine view. You're the one getting duped.
So you honestly believe that women are these sweet little creatures that don't have a manipulative thought go through their head?


I'm female, and I think that you're one sick puppy with a very, very twisted wordview.

How's that for a female perspective, sugartits?


There have been sever serial killer women.
Women tend to be more emotionally driven,
which means they aren't as likley to kill.


Wha?...Being more emotional makes you less likely to kill? Aren't most murders committed in a heat of passion?


She hacked her family, sisters, mother, to death,
cut of cody parts, and decapitated one.


She only killed her Mom and Dad. She didn't kill any siblings. And I've never heard of her cutting out body parts. (This is assuming that was her and not the maid) Once again, you display a woeful lack of knowledge on subjects you claim to understand.

Its a good poem, and you know it.
You just want to be argumentitive.


ITS A GOOD POEM! YOU KNOW IT! YOU'RE JUST MEAN! WAAAAAHHHH! :wah

[kahljorn]

women aren't as likely to kill because they usually kill in the heat of passion. That's actually kind of true, but I don't understand her point because men do the same thing. I guess because men commit more grotesque, violent crimes towards people they don't even know than women can makes woman evil. Poor evil girls.

[Gabby GaGa]

Is this how you handle your relationships? Manipulate?


Damn, have you missed the point of everything I've said?


Yeah...those Doric columns...the fluting....so seductive...


sarcastic comments don't fly well with logic and philosophy.


I'm female, and I think that you're one sick puppy with a very, very twisted wordview.



your half-assed psuedo-intellect lesbian opinion dont mean shit to me.

Wha?...Being more emotional makes you less likely to kill? Aren't most murders committed in a heat of passion?
emotionally driven people are controlled more by their adolecence-engraved morals.
and no, most murders are premeditated or accidental.


She only killed her Mom and Dad. She didn't kill any siblings. And I've never heard of her cutting out body parts. (This is assuming that was her and not the maid) Once again, you display a woeful lack of knowledge on subjects you claim to understand.


my bad. I was thinking of someone else. Still, you know the old song
"lizzie borden took an axe, and gave her mom 40 whacks,
and when father saw what she'd done, she gave him fourty one"

Im actually more inclined to believe her sister commited the acts. Why? Because there was a prime example of a sweet little girl. She was in the house, incedently. But i dont want to get into that, the subject is off hand.
ITS A GOOD POEM! YOU KNOW IT! YOU'RE JUST MEAN! WAAAAAHHHH!
It's a good poem, and you are illiterate.

So? Whites are statsitically more frequent shoplifters than blacks, but it hardly means that whites are more manipulative than blacks.
shall I remind you that the whites enslaved the blacks? Or perhaps, that they coerced the Native Americans into trading their land for a glass bead?
I dare you to find a race more maniuplative then the whites.

As for the women being the instigator of break-ups, again, I say....SO?! Did you ever stop to think of why the woman might want to break up with a man? Maybe he doesn't treat her with respect? Maybe he's even manipulative towards her?
women are spasmatic in that respect because they can fly off the wall at any given moment. Their expectations are too high from watching romance movies and reading harlequin books, and worst of all, i believe, is a particular trait. The famouse

"im pissed at you john"

john: "why?? what did I do?"

chick "if you don't know, then I'm not telling you"

So, you want to know what I DO like about women?
Let me begin to list.
They're comforting and solace, and provide the world to us. They create and maintain life.
They often prevent the male irrational side from taking over (when their man is pissed at a neighbor, a bar fight, etc.) In some cases they'll listen and offer condolence when no one else in the world will.

It doesn't mean they aren't bitches at times.

As for kahl,
Let me administer Phase I of your ass kicking.

If i bore you so much, why won't you leave me the fuck alone?

Okay, Jaenette. Ill fight you to the bitter end.

[kahljorn]

Yea great point gagonacaca, oh wait except i said im STARTING TO GET BORED WITH HER AND I CAN USUALLY MAKE FUN OF STUPID PEOPLE ENDLESSLY. Do you know what TENSES are? apparantly not.

Gagonacocka, don't talk about logic and philosophy. You commit more logical falacies (or maybe phallacies in your case) than anyone i know. In this thread alone it looks like you're guilty of Red Herrings, Ignatio Errechi, circumstantial ad hominem and probably a few others.

Most murders are commited by "Accident"? Isn't that MANSLAUGHTER? lol. dumbass.

Whites are the most manipulative race?
That's retarded. What about the black people who sold their black brothers to america? What about the egyptians who had slaves as well... just because white people had slaves and treated people like shit doesn't mean they are ALL necessarily inherently as per the genes manipulative jerks. Correlation does not equal causation. Another logical fallacy of sorts.
Plus, WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE MEN, AND MOST OF THEM WERE MEN, AND IF IT WAS MOSTLY WHITE MEN WHO MANIPULATED BLACKS AND NOT WOMEN THEN YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS NOW BUNK SO SHUT UP. BECAUSE, If white men enslave blackmen/nativeamericans, and enslaving them is manipulative, and enslavig in that fashion makes them the "Most manipulative race", then Whitemen are the most manipulative period. Unless you want to claim it was the white WOMEN who were behind all that slavery. Which they weren't. I guess this is another argument we can chalk up as over, even as far as your own retarded self-refuting arguments go. Aren't self-refuting arguments technically "Illogical"?
It sickens me that you think race and sex are THIS important as to behaviorisms. You know, biological causes for defiance were pretty much thrown out the window over 20 years ago. Good job living in the past for someone who supposedly has a BA.

Emotional people are driven by adolescent mores? What does that have to do with her question? Another logical fallacy. I get the relevance it has, but I think you ignored its relevance.

Women can fly off the handle at any moment? You mean, they can kill in the heat of passion? k

Women are bitches sometimes, so it means they must all be manipulative bitches?

I'm sorry gagagagaga you just don't know w hat you're talking about. You're too far below mediocrity to ever be impressive. Except maybe to idiots, I bet you impress idiots all the time.

[kahljorn]

Here's a Nietzsche quote for you:
"Exploitation... pertains to life."

lol he must've been talking about the WOMENS lives, only.

[MattJack]

:lol this thread is awesome. I want to hear more from Gabby, she's provides such, such insight, enlightenment, and great rebuttals.

Go Gabby!!! Bring the heat

[Jeanette X]

Damn, have you missed the point of everything I've said?

There was a point?

sarcastic comments don't fly well with logic and philosophy.

You have no sense of humor. :lol2


your half-assed psuedo-intellect lesbian opinion dont mean shit to me.


Pseudo-intellectual, I can see how you'd think that. But lesbian? Where did that come from?

It's a good poem, and you are illiterate.

*stomp* *pout* Its a good poem! ITS A GOOD POEM! YOU'RE JUST TOO STUPID TO GET IT!:wah


and no, most murders are premeditated or accidental.



You once again show an amazing lack of knowledge of something you think you know about. Murder is the unlawful and INTENTIONAL killing of one human being by another. Killing some accidentally isn't murder. Homocide, yes, but not murder.


shall I remind you that the whites enslaved the blacks? Or perhaps, that they coerced the Native Americans into trading their land for a glass bead?
I dare you to find a race more maniuplative then the whites.


Aha. So you aren't just sexist, you also indulge in a little bit of reverse racism too. Scrumptius.

women are spasmatic in that respect because they can fly off the wall at any given moment.
Maybe you're a walking timebomb, darling, but I'm usually pretty steady.

Their expectations are too high from watching romance movies and reading harlequin books,

Is this a little bit of personal experience I hear? Is someone...bitter?


and worst of all, i believe, is a particular trait. The famouse

"im pissed at you john"

john: "why?? what did I do?"

chick "if you don't know, then I'm not telling you"


Have you ever read Men are From Mars, Women are from Venus? I'm not so sure if this is really an attempt at manipulation, rather a communications breakdown when the woman percieves insensitivity on the man's part when he doesn't intuitively recognize what she believes to be visible and plain.


Okay, Jaenette. Ill fight you to the bitter end.

BOMBS AWAY! :lol2

[Gabby GaGa]

lol.

as for racism:

I am 100% native american, so I think i've earned the right to hate whites.

You wiggers killed my pacifict and nature loving people,
and stuck the leftovers in reservations.

I will be back to mock. need fly up to portland. will see you in a few hours.

you're gonna be a fun little thing to cut down.

[Jeanette X]

lol.

as for racism:

I am 100% native american, so I think i've earned the right to hate whites.

You wiggers killed my pacifict and nature loving people,
and stuck the leftovers in reservations.


You openly admit to being a racist, no less. My goodness.

So what tribe are you from?

[kahljorn]

lol
like modern day whites are the same as past whites. Anyway, it's not exactly as if conquering a land and kicking out the natives is something specific to whites.

seriously why do you even talk about Nietzsche you have huge flaw in your personality and that's that you live in something like a temporal/biased illusion of reality rather than seeing anything beyond it. That's why you're not a philosopher.

It should be interesting to see you try to respond to any of this really the argument doesn't even have anything to do with men being innocent anymore. we won. you said they are. I'm sorry. I'm sure you'll keep arguing side points which is a logical fallacy again and you've been doing that a lot you lose ok game over you've been in logical fallacy land forever it's over.
that's probably why you were better not talking about logic and philosophy or whatever you said :( otherwise you had "Artistic Credibility".

[Gabby GaGa]

If natives killed all you whites and stuck the remainders on the shittiest pieces of land in the country, in the meantime stealing your homes,
Do you think you'd have nice feelings about the killers of your ancestors?
I'm Apache and Seminole
Apaches were wild as hell, but gawddamn, we were fighters. Supposedly I'm a descendent of Geronimo.

like modern day whites are the same as past whites. Anyway, it's not exactly as if conquering a land and kicking out the natives is something specific to whites.

An ENTIRE CONTENT AND RACE OF PEOPLE?
Show me one example of a CONTENT being wiped out.
You cannot.


seriously why do you even talk about Nietzsche you have huge flaw in your personality and that's that you live in something like a temporal/biased illusion of reality rather than seeing anything beyond it. That's why you're not a philosopher.
Everyone is biased. You have to be biased in order to get through life.

If you’re in L.A. , and see a gang of baddass bikers that would rape you on one side of the street,
and a priest on the other,
which side would you choose to walk on?



Red Herrings, Ignatio Errechi, circumstantial ad hominem and probably a few others.
Well, lets see some citations.


Most murders are commited by "Accident"? Isn't that MANSLAUGHTER?
Whatever you want to label it, killing a person by accident is the same damn thing.
I noticed how you so conveniently skipped the logical points I made, and went straight for the use of a definition.
Yet another technique of politions. Instead of addressing the given issue, they deflect the argument by parsing words.

Whites are the most manipulative race?
That's retarded. What about the black people who sold their black brothers to america? What about the egyptians who had slaves as well... just because white people had slaves and treated people like shit doesn't mean they are ALL necessarily inherently as per the genes manipulative jerks. Correlation does not equal causation. Another logical fallacy of sorts.
I never stated that ALL whites were manipulative. I stated that they are the most manipulative race.
I urge you to think before you let your asslips go wild.

Plus, WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE MEN, AND MOST OF THEM WERE MEN, AND IF IT WAS MOSTLY WHITE MEN WHO MANIPULATED BLACKS AND NOT WOMEN THEN YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS NOW BUNK
There are an equal amount of white males and white females.
As a matter of fact, there is a larger female than male population.
If you want to initiate your circular logic again, then so be it.
Women manipulate because of their comforting and trusted position is society.
Politics>passion>seduction>enticement>entrapment.
Have you beat that dead horse enough?
SO SHUT UP.
Yes, a scholarly attitude indeed
You know, biological causes for defiance were pretty much thrown out the window over 20 years ago.
WOW!! 20 YEARS!! Now THAT’S a long time. Shall I bring the Gallelian biography into this?
emional people are driven by adolescent mores? What does that have to do with her question?
Gabriella’s Guide to Reading (for ninnies)
Get Sober
Read subject carefully
Have understanding of clauses and phrases
Re-read until you grasp concept.


Women are bitches sometimes, so it means they must all be manipulative bitches?
I will repeat myself for the sake of philosophy.
Use of the words "all" "always" "never" "nobody" and "everybody" are the ultimate fallacies. I did not state that they are ALL manipulative, but instead that they are genetically inclined to, an usually do, manipulate.
I bet you impress idiots all the time.
I’m impressing you enough for you to keep talking.
I guess I DO impress idiots.
You’re just pissed because You were a test subject, and now you’re sadly trying to beat my ass into next Tuesday, the only results being your demonstration of an inability to grasp concepts, your only defense being the parsing of words, with ignorance towards ideas.

[kahljorn]

You don't get that we already won because you admitted that men aren't innocent and that they also manipulate.

you commited a logical fallacy whenever your argument changed from men being innocent and women corrupting them to anything else :( it's called a red herring where you change the subject and act like you proved something true but actually all you proved true was a subject that was never being discussed because you know in the original discussion you were getting your ass kicked.

such as your last post.

[kahljorn]

ps i think what you mean is CONTINENT

yea i didn't learn that word till after i got my PHD so I can relate

[kahljorn]

""Whatever you want to label it, killing a person by accident is the same damn thing."

No they aren't.
Killing a person on purpose means you had a violent intention to murder the person which is morally wrong and when you're discussing morality and moral related issues like we are you don't discuss "Accidental" killings.
lol you can't even tell the moral difference between accidental killings and purposeful killings?

"noticed how you so conveniently skipped the logical points I made"
You don't make logical points. You don't even know what logic is. Logic means you support what you say with reasons. The reasons have to be connected to eachother. If the reasons aren't connected to eachother and all lead to a conclusion, then its illogical.
Saying, "Most murders are premeditated" doesn't mean anything when you're talking about men being innocent and women corrupting them, especially when 90 percent of all murders are commited by men. If anything, it means men are "PLANNING" to kill people.

"emional people are driven by adolescent mores? "
you're driven by an adolescent more. The adolescent more that your race and values is somehow relevant to anything.

"did not state that they are ALL manipulative, but instead that they are genetically inclined to, an usually do, manipulate."


You've submitted no proof they are genetically inclined to manipulate. The only type of proof you submitted is that because they have smaller physical structures and are "Submissive" they manipulate more. And yet, those are factors entirely related to a social environment. Womens bodies change depending on the type of work they do. Their positions in society change depending on the type of society they are in. Everything changes. Nothing is "Genetic". Women don't have some genetic code built in to them to make them manipulate men in the way you are thinking.
Nothing that leaves men "Innocent" before women.

You can say women are manipulative because they offer their bodies for food or whatever, but aren't men offering their food for their bodies? You say it's different because women are getting something "Stupid" and are using their bodies, but so are men by using their "Dominant Position" and "Strong hunting-able body" and they are also receiving something pointless like "Sex" which is pretty meaningless.
Men manipulate men to gain political positions all the time.


Don't you get that you're the one arguing for a difficult position and thus you're the one with the burden of proof? I don't have to say a damned thing. Everyone knows that men and women can both be manipulative. What's your point? that they are MORE manipulative? lol, so what? Who cares? How does that account for men being corrupted by females?

you know there have also been societies in which the females are "Boss" and the men sort of offer their bodies to the women.

Also by nature men are inclined to struggle over women so it's not just that women are "Manipulative" it's that men themselves are inclined to be jealous and territorial.
Women sometimes play on that, but wouldn't you know it, so do men.
So if men are already "Genetically inclined" to be territorial how are they innocent that's a good question and how does women's manipulation of them cause them to be corrupted?

Using your biblical citation god was a jealous asshole that was before women so what's up what's goin on what about the snake he was kind of manipulative right and seductive SUPER MANIPULATIVE AND SEDUCTIVE and it was a male woooweee this conversation is going places

also a funny thing you might notice whenever i use the words all or any im making fun of your logic you see what im doing is stating your logic the way you're saying it you see if you say women are genetically inclined to be manipulative then you are saying all women are inclined to be manipulative so it's basically the same thing.

[kahljorn]

Moreover, what is more moral or immoral about being passively aggressive compared to aggressively aggressive?
Also, please factor in the fact that passive aggressiveness is a cultural trait since women are in submissive roles, which is a role they don't have to be in. Men can also be passive-aggressive and in submissive roles.
Notice how this is more about ROLES than men or women.

that is why you fail :(

[Jeanette X]

Do you think you'd have nice feelings about the killers of your ancestors?

I'm of Jewish descent, and no, I don't have particularly good feelings towards the Nazis. But unlike you, I don't go on long tirades towards anyone of German descent and collectively blame all Germans living today for the slaughter of my people. Do you think that I should?

I never stated that ALL whites were manipulative. I stated that they are the most manipulative race.

"Buh-buh-buh I never said that ALL Native Americans were lazy. I said that they where the most lazy race!"

Nope. Not racist at all.

Your claim that whites are manipulative based on their exploitation of native peoples is no more logical than claiming that natives are stupid based on the fact that they were so easily exploited.

The reason whites conquered the natives (and not the other way around)
is because of geographical determinism. Europe was geographically advantagous to developing guns, germs, steel and all the other things that conquered the natives, and that is why the whites conquered them. Not because whites are more manipulative in general than natives.

Do you really think that natives never exploited or manipulated other natives before the Europeans came? Do you believe that the natives lived in perfect Utopian harmony with each other?


There are an equal amount of white males and white females.
As a matter of fact, there is a larger female than male population.

And how many white women slaughtered Indians and forced them onto reservations?



Use of the words "all" "always" "never" "nobody" and "everybody" are the ultimate fallacies. I did not state that they are ALL manipulative, but instead that they are genetically inclined to, an usually do, manipulate.

And why are whites genetically inclined to manipulate more than other races? Can you offer an evolutionary reason?



Everyone is biased. You have to be biased in order to get through life.

If you’re in L.A. , and see a gang of baddass bikers that would rape you on one side of the street,
and a priest on the other,
which side would you choose to walk on?


So it is perfectly acceptable to for you to be a racist towards white people...because apparently every white person is going to gang rape you or something....sorry, but I fail to see how this is a viable analogy.

Are the kind of person who clutches her purse everytime she sees a black person?


Whatever you want to label it, killing a person by accident is the same damn thing.
I believe every judge, lawyer, and just about anyone with an iota of knowledge of the law would beg to differ. It isn't the same damn thing. Ask any lawyer.





Apaches were wild as hell, but gawddamn, we were fighters. Supposedly I'm a descendent of Geronimo.

I thought you said that your ancestors were "peace-loving". :lol

Sorry darling, but I don't buy that you're descended from Geronimo. I think this is just another self-aggrandizing claim on your part. Geronimo was intelligent.

[Womti]

HEY WOMTI WANNA GO MAKE OUT UNDER THE BLEACHERS?

Oh shit, I mean, uh,

HEY WOMTI LET'S PLAN A MAKINGS OUT UNDER THE BLEACHERS?


are you being sarcastic?

[kahljorn]

I'd like to do a follow up post to jeanette x's in that Nietzsche said, 'exploitation pertains to life' as do many other things get over the past defunkt face. Shit, you weren't even alive to experience it. You have a BA, book deals and this supposedly magnificient mind of wonder of yours all thanks to America kicking the shit out of your ancestors. You seem to be enjoying it, it's not like you're suffering.
Plus come on how ironic are you - you're 100% native american who hates whites and you're obsessed with the indian culture and have traveled there perhaps fulfilling Christopher Columbus' search, right? Congratulations I'm very proud of you.

"Hey.. fuck you."
"What for?"
"You know..."
"What?
"Your ancestors killed my ancestors hundreds of years ago."
"..."
"You suck, I hate you."
"Okay..."

GABBY GAGA VALUES REAL SOCIAL COMMUNICATION AND FRiENDS NOT ZEROS AND ONES WHATS THAT SHIT ITS A MACHINE!


Okay guys now we get to find out how she's going to respond because she's probably going to do something crazy. Either she'll go completely off topic to make off topic points and act like she won or she'll go, "YOU STILL HAVENT DEBUNKED THE DIviSION OF THE SEDUCTIVE EMANCIPATION POLITICAL SANDAL QUEREELELLL

ITS AN EXPERIMENT DONT LET HER KNOW

[Chojin]

No womti i am dead serious about making out with you over the internet

[Womti]

we'll need a thread for this. :serious

[arg_zombies]

Okay, all I understand from this thread is
-Gabby would prefer to be a man
-Womti still doesn't understand what Chojin is saying
-Being born recently does not make you a native american, it just means you are related to native Americans, unless you live in a camp which I doubt because you're using a computer
-That is a very sad, general accusation to say that 'all woman are manipulative'. I'd of thought you have at least some pride for your sex.
-A murder is intended, whether you say you 'didn't mean to do it' or not. Manslaughter is an accident.
-Adam wasn't told it was fruit from the 'tree', she gave it to him and he ate it.
-Snakes have a history of MANIPULATION, and MANIPULATED the woman to think that eating the fruit wasn't really that bad
-It was a STORY, that doesn't mean you can base complete accusations on one source
-Women break up more than men because we don't give a shit who we're with most of the time, unless they are really special, so we just linger
-Why didn't you just call him ADAM instead of ADAMSITE? Where did you get the 'SITE' from?

/End Of Rant\

[Womti]

-Womti still doesn't understand what Chojin is saying


what is Chojin saying that I dont understand:confused:

[executioneer]

gay-ups, please

[executioneer]

i mean philo/soc/politics :oops

[kahljorn]

i think we all know what gay-ups means

[kahljorn]

and i agree, because i up gayed her...
or maybe she over gayed me

i dont exactly know how that works, depends on the definition of gay.

[MattJack]

Gabby just found out her role, thanks to Kahl.

Know your role Gabby.

:Rockbottom

[Jeanette X]

Okay, all I understand from this thread is
-Being born recently does not make you a native american, it just means you are related to native Americans, unless you live in a camp which I doubt because you're using a computer


You're just as dumb as Gabby is. Just because someone is using a computer (and not riding out on the plains hunting buffalo) doesn't mean that they aren't culturally Native American.

[arg_zombies]

Yes, but I mean, that sort of race died out. Now, everything is urbanized, there are hardly any more 'Native Americans'. Now America is just made up of lots of other countries, like Ireland and Spain etc.
I don't mean to be Stereotypical, saying that a Native American has to live in a camp, i'm just saying that I doubt she is all she says she is - I like to say I'm Dutch, but I'm not directly Dutch, It just sounds nice and foreign :)

[Jeanette X]

Yes, but I mean, that sort of race died out. Now, everything is urbanized, there are hardly any more 'Native Americans'.

There are 2.1 million Native Americans in this country, who are of 100% Native heritage, and there are 3.4 million who are of mixed heritage. I'd hardly call them extinct.

I still doubt her claims of being 100% Native American though. Its probably just another ploy to make herself seem mysterious and exotic. Just like Cher when she put on a feathered headdress and sang "Half-breed". :blah

[arg_zombies]

Heh

Am I the only person who is annoyed with her lack of response? :\

[Lenor]

I don't know, but I'm a little annoyed that kahl would automatically assume that whomever this gaba girl is, that it must be a character of me. My persona on here, I will admit is not up to the standards of some; but to directly point a finger at me of the bullshit this Chick is saying is ridiculous.

Yet again, I know my post are not always 120%. But I think by now It should be known that if I want to start some debate on something then I will do so in my own name. Not make another one up, just to try and earn respect from people I already know.

[Jeanette X]

Am I the only person who is annoyed with her lack of response? :\

I am too. I guess she chickened out. :/

[Gabby GaGa]

Commence asshole cuttdown phase part 2.
Excuuuuse me for having a social life that doesn’t require my presence on the internet every day.
I’m more then happy to be a female. I relish in being the submissive half that get dominated by the stronger sex.
You all have a lesson to learn in fetishism.
One of the wonderful things about being a female that defers to males is that If he makes a fucked up decision, I’m not accountable.
Women were perfectly happy, being put on pedestals and worshipped, until the feminize had to liberate us. Now, we work just like the men, and then have the audacity to complain about how hard life is when we brought it on ourselves.
Native Americans aren’t particularly exotic. We’re self-admittedly plain hippies. We all know it.
But we were still morally better people then you crackers.
Oh yes.. as for your retarded comments Kahl,
so, ya think its a funny thing, huh?
Then why are whites throwing a fit over the Mexicans crossing the border?
You deserve to have immigrants in "your" country. Mexicans are really just native Americans that are coming back to bite you in the ass.
You cant mock the frustration of native Americans, when your entire race has a campaign against Mexicans, out of pure frustration.
You people are beginning to bore me to no end.

[Lenor]

OK if everyone is boring you, WILL YOU PLEASE JUST SHUT UP ALREADY?? I'm not usually mean to people, but you just don't ever stop. You have made your point, you don't ever give up. GREAT FOR YOU!

NOW GO HAVE YOUR SOCIAL LIFE, AND MAYBE POST ABOUT THAT INSTEAD OF THIS BULLSHIT?

[Gabby GaGa]

Huh, I wouldn't expect that from you Lenor
OK if everyone is boring you, WILL YOU PLEASE JUST SHUT UP ALREADY?? I'm not usually mean to people, but you just don't ever stop. You have made your point, you don't ever give up. GREAT FOR YOU!

The same paragraph, if you could even call it that, could be applied to kahl.
How many times did he say I was boring him, yet he refused to shut his trap?


NOW GO HAVE YOUR SOCIAL LIFE, AND MAYBE POST ABOUT THAT INSTEAD

Jealous?

tata -
~GaGa

[kahljorn]

I like how she comes back to the thread to commit more logical fallacies i guess she can't keep up :O

i think gabby gaga is a drag queen she acts like every drag queen/transexual I've ever known.

IF A MAN MAKES A BAD DECISION I DONT HAVE TO TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY.
no fucking shit why should you take responsibility for his fuckups? You fuck up plenty on your own, dumbass. Look at this thread, for example. You're taking responsibility for being a dumb cunt by being verbally slapped.

Yea dude all those women were happy that's why some women decided to do the feminist movement because they were so happy that's just like with black people i mean black people were fine being slaves/secondclasscitizens until that asshole Martin Luther King Jr. fucked it all up what a fucking jerk fuck that stinky blackass stump-jumpin' nigga rite guys.
Same thing with native americans i mean why did we give them camps or try to do anytype of retribution at all they enjoyed being treated like shit and killed and living at the whims of the government they love that shit i mean when the pilgrims came the natives were all, "Hey dude can you like point your gun at us steal our crops fuck our women in the ass and then force us to march millions of miles until most of us our dead".
That's what makes america so great we always want to fulfill people's dreams.

Yea all native americans and females and all people are exactly the same i dont even know why we really try to act differently at all we're all the same right all indians are hippies every single one haha wow you're a chum i bet you and the other natives sit around the camp fire eatting peyote buttons talking about timothy leary and carlos canstenada and passing a joint while listening to pink floyd and other shit hippies might do.

There's actually some white people who fight for mexican immigrants being able to come into the country. But that's an entirely different issue that should be in the political forum and really has no relevance here it's just another one of your logical fallacies.

We can't mock the frustration of native americans because mexicans are immigrating into our country?
Good point, very reasonable, I can see how you got that conclusion from there.
Oh wait no i cant you're an idiot shut the fuck up.

Nobody mocked the frustration of native americans, you brought up native americans for no reason as if it's a good reason for you to be a dumb cunt or to try to win some points in this argument "IN THE PAST MY PEOPLE WERE HURT BY YOU NOW IVE WON THIS ARGUMENT" it was another of your logical fallacies one of millions you asked me a while ago to point them out and im still doing it.
You brought up native americans because for whatever reason you think it justifies your retarded ideas and retarded hostility. I think Lenor is right you were doing better before you decided to come back why dont you just quit trying to act all smart and just be a normal person you drag queen.

Your other points are dumb but for reasons that I'm not going to make obvious because i don't really enjoy talking about myself like you do.

[kahljorn]

Lenor if it makes you feel better I also thought it could be fartin mowler or gadzooks.

[kahljorn]

ooooh, nevermind i get it. We can't mock their frustration because we ourselves are frustrated. LOL
that's another logical fallacy. Ad Hominem tu quequo. "You too".

It's pointless to even bother accusing you of logical fallacies, though, because you're just that retarded. It didn't make enough sense in the first place to even be considered logical.
Nobody was actually mocking the frustration of the native americans, dumbass, we were mocking you for being a stupid prick and bringing up their frustrations FOR NO APPARANT REASON YOURE LIKE SOME CRAZY KID WHO WAS BEATEN AND THEN ABANDONED TO BE AN ORPHAN AND YOU JUST START CRYING AND SCREAMING OUT MOMMA FOR NO REASON SOMETIMES like anybody here gives a damn about that or even mexicans really.

[kahljorn]

AND WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE RESULTS TO THE EXPERIMENT?

lol just kidding i knwo there wasn't an experiment in the first place ;) ;)

dont tell anyone else though they might be waiting for results ;)


lol later in life we'll all life about this because you tricked us so cleverly.
I mean personally Ive been waiting for like weeks for these results on the edge of my seat checking my email daily and stuff like that

lol just kiddingi knew it was all lies from the first place lol good try though maybe next time.
I did kind of expect you to at least try to make some bogus looking research trying to look all smart and shit but id tear it apart in seconds because it would probably be unscientific and unethical ;9
I guess you were a couple steps ahead of me there

[kahljorn]

FUCK I SHOULDNT HAVE ADMITTED YOUR TWO STEP VICTORY

NOW YOULL GET ONE OF YOUR SUPERIORITY ATTITUDES

FUCK THERE WENT ALL OF MY LAST FOUR POSTS DEMEANING YOU BUT I GUESS YOU LIKE THAT KIND OF KINKY FETISHIST STUFF RIGHT YOU PROBABLY BOUNCE BACK REALLY QUICK WHEN YOURE KNOCKED ON YOUR ASS BECAUSE YOU WEAR RUBBER PANTIES OR SOMETHING
lol
man that is a low quality joke right there folks RUBBER PANTIES because rubber BOUNCIES

PS did you ACTUALLY graduate from university with a BA? because you make me feel SMART

[arg_zombies]

Excuse me, but Women were perfectly happy, being put on pedestals and worshipped, until the feminize had to liberate us. is not true. I just covered an in depth history project on Women's suffrage, and it was only a very small percentage of the upper class women (who never had to do anything) that didn't want the vote, and to be equal to men. When the war came, it was a miracle for women, because they were finally allowed to work - they could finally be independant, and ear their own wages. What you are saying is just your own personal opinion, which is shared by about 1% of the ultimate population.

I have a lesson to learn in fetishm?
Are you sure you meant to say that?
Fetish: Having an extreme fixation, usually sexually satisfying on something.

Yeah, good one.

[kahljorn]

the sad thing zombie is that she did actually mean fetish :(
because fetishes are really relevant to the conversation.

I think an interesting book for this conversation would the the second sex by simone deBeauvour because she says that you aren't born a woman you are made a woman ;o

[arg_zombies]

I think she should write a book, purely so no one will buy it :(

[kahljorn]

according to her she has :lol

it was probably about how to have sex with yourself with 100 household items

[arg_zombies]

Hah :lol

There are 3 sequels to the book - different furniture shops have different styles :lol

[kahljorn]

lol, "Watta coffee table book this makes folks not only does it show you're a slut but it shows you're not afraid to share it over a cup of 'Joe' ;) ;) right ladies?"

[Jeanette X]

Commence asshole cuttdown phase part 2.
Excuuuuse me for having a social life that doesn’t require my presence on the internet every day.
Oh, were you off at your debutante ball? :lol

I’m more then happy to be a female. I relish in being the submissive half that get dominated by the stronger sex.
You all have a lesson to learn in fetishism.
Silly me. All this time I've been searching for a person with whom I can share mutual respect and trust, when instead I should've been looking for a man to order me around.

One of the wonderful things about being a female that defers to males is that If he makes a fucked up decision, I’m not accountable.
As opposed to preventing him from making a fucked-up decision which will negatively effect you both by stepping in and offering input.
Women were perfectly happy, being put on pedestals and worshipped, until the feminize had to liberate us.
Apparently Gabby is now the spokeswoman for all women who lived before feminism. Why don't you look into the history of your own tribe, the Apache, and learn about the female warriors and leaders in your tribe? Or do you think that all the traditional Apache women were submissive and worshipped on pedestals? I'd like to hear how much (or more likely, how little) you know about your own (alleged) heritage.

You cant mock the frustration of native Americans, when your entire race has a campaign against Mexicans, out of pure frustration.
Nope, there are absolutely no left-leaning white activists whatsoever who have any sympathies with Mexican immigrants. Not one. No sirree. :blah
I'm not mocking the frustration Native Americans in general, my dear Gabby, I'm only mocking you.

[arg_zombies]

I'd like to hear how much (or more likely, how little) you know about your own (alleged) heritage.


Google time for gabby :lol

[kahljorn]

shit i didn't even think of that jeanette. My girlfriend has a native american women book though ;o ;o ;o

[Chojin]

haha, out of all the people on this board to call a shut-in, she picks Lenor.

[arg_zombies]

I thirst for Gabby's retard mumblings :lol

God, I think Gabby has become the new forum scapegoat!
"Hey, where'd all the threads go?!"
"I dunno, gabby deleted them, probably"

[Gabby GaGa]

I'm getting a good fucking laugh out of watching you all squirm, you just dripping with akward retaliations that aren't backed up by much more then a high school opinon and a bong full of ganja.


Silly me. All this time I've been searching for a person with whom I can share mutual respect and trust, when instead I should've been looking for a man to order me around.


Don't you want to be ordered around? After all, how would a dumb broad such as yourself get through life any other way?

I don't really need full trust in my man. Trust = predictable, a crime I never hope my man to be guilty of. I want to wonder what he has waiting.
Respect? I respect the man that has the 'nads to control my wild behavior.

Time to explore the regressive happenings of J. Xs mind:
As opposed to preventing him from making a fucked-up decision which will negatively effect you both by stepping in and offering input.

Refer to middle of thread. Observe my opinion proffessing that women only provide input, thus contolling the male. Controll the male, and still be unnaccountable. Sounds like a cushy deal.... Oh...wait...here come the the Feminazies!


s not true. I just covered an in depth history project on Women's suffrage, and it was only a very small percentage of the upper class women (who never had to do anything) that didn't want the vote, and to be equal to men. When the war came, it was a miracle for women, because they were finally allowed to work - they could finally be independant, and ear their own wages. What you are saying is just your own personal opinion, which is shared by about 1% of the ultimate population.



According to... a high school textbook? Again, see above answer concerning emotion controll.

Fetish: Having an extreme fixation, usually sexually satisfying on something.

You mean, like, sexually satisfied by control? Control by a dominating man?



Apparently Gabby is now the spokeswoman for all women who lived before feminism. Why don't you look into the history of your own tribe, the Apache, and learn about the female warriors and leaders in your tribe? Or do you think that all the traditional Apache women were submissive and worshipped on pedestals? I'd like to hear how much (or more likely, how little) you know about your own (alleged) heritage.


Very few apache women were warriors, with little evidence to sustain this. This was more of an amazonian myth combined witht he european perception of the "inferior and uncivalized native"
The europeans also recorded that a vast number of natives were regular cannibals.
Yeah, THAT turned out to be a correct assumption.


Nope, there are absolutely no left-leaning white activists whatsoever who have any sympathies with Mexican immigrants. Not one. No sirree

Turn on the telivison and observe the floods of anti-imigration activists. And the paltery amount of people against it.

And Kahl, I'm no longer reading your responses because you're the type of person who beats a subject like a dead-red-headed horse stepchild with circular and repetive argument.
My god, say something new.

[kahljorn]

SUBJECTS RESPONSE AFTER EXPOSED TO CIRCULAR ARGUMENTS THAT SHE CANT DEFEAT BECAUSE SHE IS DUMB:
"I'm no longer reading your responses because you're the type of person who beats a subject like a dead-red-headed horse stepchild with circular and repetive argument.
My god, say something new. "

:lol

GUESS YOU FAILED THE EXPERIMENT YOU CANT KEEP UP ANYMORE DONT FORGET TO PUT THIS IN YOUR BOOK

This thread (in the later part), was my failed attempt at an experiment. I'm doing a study on human observence and reaction to pseudo-intellect.
my point in the study is to prove that when you back a seemingly intelligent person into a corner,
they'll fall apart from the effects of circular arument. Kahl was meant as the intellegent subject. However, his reaction is a bit different then I expected.

7 out of 10 of my subjects were perfectly intelligent and well educated people,
however, I found that when I present them with a roundabout argument, they eventually break down.


ps haven't you been talking about women being subservient bitches the entire time and repeating yourself.. yes. so why dont you get something new, because we've already refuted all of your arguments.
I just talked about simone debeauvour not that i expect you to know who you are why dont we talk about that you just keep talking about how they are subservient but when someone says something otherwise you can't refute it at all or use your brain.

anyway this argument has been over since it began you are a horrible arguer so quit acting like yo u're winning or something everyone knows you're trying to save face.

[kahljorn]

where's the results to that experiment? you never sent them to me.

[Womti]

i think we all know what gay-ups means

http://i-mockery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25491

[arg_zombies]

I'm getting a good fucking laugh out of watching you all squirm, you just dripping with akward retaliations that aren't backed up by much more then a high school opinon and a bong full of ganja.

And you are answering with fully backed up answers? I'd like to see the day.


Don't you want to be ordered around? After all, how would a dumb broad such as yourself get through life any other way?
If I were you, I would not be trying to insult someone who is making more sense than you, you are just digging yourself a little, shitty hole to die in.

I don't really need full trust in my man. Trust = predictable, a crime I never hope my man to be guilty of. I want to wonder what he has waiting.
Respect? I respect the man that has the 'nads to control my wild behavior.
Oh shut up, seriously. Only submissive nuts who can't do anything themselves are like that. In other words, you are now coming across as some weird sex slave who thinks it'll all be okay if you wait it out and do exactly as you're told.

Refer to middle of thread. Observe my opinion proffessing that women only provide input, thus contolling the male. Controll the male, and still be unnaccountable. Sounds like a cushy deal.... Oh...wait...here come the the Feminazies!

Oh, the humour! Too much!


According to... a high school textbook? Again, see above answer concerning emotion controll.
Another helpless victim who thinks that they are better than the 'system'. You believe that schools are there for 'brainwashing', I bet. You wanna argue over what happened, please, be my guest, I have a ton of facts at the ready.


Very few apache women were warriors, with little evidence to sustain this. This was more of an amazonian myth combined witht he european perception of the "inferior and uncivalized native"
The europeans also recorded that a vast number of natives were regular cannibals.
Yeah, THAT turned out to be a correct assumption.
And yet,w ith this 'little evidence', you now know that they weren't violent? Stop contradicting yourself, Gabby.

[Jeanette X]

I
I don't really need full trust in my man. Trust = predictable, a crime I never hope my man to be guilty of. I want to wonder what he has waiting.
If you think that trusting someone means that you should be able to predict everything about them, then you have a very bizarre idea as to what trust is. Your relationships must be pretty fucked up.
Respect? I respect the man that has the 'nads to control my wild behavior.
Yes, nothing gains my respect faster than being pushed around by some big brute.

"SHUT UP BITCH!" *slap*

How can a girl help but be swept off her feet? :love

Observe my opinion proffessing that women only provide input, thus contolling the male.
Providing input=controlling and manipulating a person?
Controll the male, and still be unnaccountable. Sounds like a cushy deal....
Are you too much of a coward to be held accountable for anything? Is that why you want men to make all the decisions?

Very few apache women were warriors, with little evidence to sustain this. This was more of an amazonian myth combined witht he european perception of the "inferior and uncivalized native"
Once again, you have proven yourself to be a moron. If the women warrior thing was just another European assumption, then why haven't we ever heard about it in the stereotypes we see of native women? The popular image of the Native woman is that of the submissive squaw, not the strong warrior. And even if very few Apache women were warriors, the few examples that exist, and the fact that the tribal leaders (including Geronimo himself) embraced them, contradict your bizarre idea that pre-feminism women were utterly content to stay home and cook.
Examples for your reading pleasure:
http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN1574882066&id=dDqi1AIYunwC&pg=PA206&lpg=PA206&ots=6G2hh2ZK-F&dq=Apache+women+warriors&sig=zNSe7kHSiGcwWIQ6zBk8edtRtr0

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0874172217&id=SJjVggb724sC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&ots=TuDAzW7maK&dq=Apache+women+warriors&sig=ILpLiLy-izbYCzp_TDwjsXhIEpc#PPA29,M1

http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0874172217&id=SJjVggb724sC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&ots=TuDAzW7obK&dq=Gouyen&sig=jiDY0aihFEMpXYi8v92tAx_mNNY


Turn on the telivison and observe the floods of anti-imigration activists. And the paltery amount of people against it.
Because the media has no bias whatsover and would give equal voice to people who are pro-immigration. :blah

[arg_zombies]

God gabby, i thuought even you would understand that the media is incredibly one-sided, where they only show the bad things, as they get more ratings and views.
People love to see other people fail, it's natural.

[Jeanette X]

Damn.

I think I drove her away for good.

[Lenor]

Nah, she still lurks around 'caption the persons above you avatar', and threads such as those.

[arg_zombies]

Maybe she is gonna lay low for a while, conducting more of her 'psychological experiments', and then when she thinks she has enough data, she'll strike again! :eek

[kahljorn]

gaggy gaga either needs to be in thread backups or have one of those special threads devoted to quotes from her

[arg_zombies]

Gab-Mock lol