Harry Potter or The Neverending Story

[The Retro Kat]

Which is better?


I'd say the Neverending Story, cause it was badass and original. And it's what my youth grew up with. Such a fantastic movie.

[Spectre X]

it wasn't original, it was based off of a German book.

[FeuerAffe]

Duh. They're both books made into movies. :) I'm going to stretch my imagination here and assume that the retro kid already knew that. ;)

The Neverending Story is so much better...I can't even find the words for it. I fucking hate Harry Potter. :(

[Jeanette X]

The Neverending storieeeeeeeee.....la da de la da de la da de.....

The Neverending Story is cool, but The Return to Oz is even better.

[James]

I could never get into NES. Harry Potter for me.

[Grazzt]

Neverending Story, since Harry Potter is just a ripoff of Timothy Hunter anyway.

[Daphne]

I love them both, but I'll have to say Harry Potter. Even though I don't like the movies as much as the books.

Timothy Hunter? Never heard of him, I'm afraid. Books, I assume?

[Protoclown]

"Books of Magic" comic series. The two characters do bear some similarities, and the comics were around long before Harry Potter. But I'm not sure Harry Potter is a rip-off, since Books of Magic follows a much more interesting plotline which Harry Potter failed to emulate.

[Daphne]

Well, Harry Potter is hardly original, a lot of fantasy stories are about the orphan with the horrible life who ends up being some kick ass guy instead of a dork.
I love the Harry Potter books. I find them really interesting and fun light, reading. I only wish they weren't as popular as they are now, it was horrible seeing people dressed as fucking wizards at the movie. I just know they are going to end up with fans as annoying as Star Wars geeks.

I want to add, that the only people I know who don't care for the books, are usually people who have read the US versions. I find that funny.

[Protoclown]

I've never read the books myself, but I did enjoy the first movie. I've heard a bit about the books from some of my friends that are into them, and they might well be fun, from everything I hear. I doubt they're as good as Books of Magic though, as Neil Gaiman was the one who created it.

[Daphne]

You never know unless you read them.
I suggest you find a copy of the UK/Canadian version. The US ones are dumbed down for some reason. Like how they called the first one Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, instead of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (like it was around the rest of the world). I think the assumed American kids wouldn't know what a Philosopher was so instead of actually teaching them, they just changed the title.

I'm amazed the 4th book wasn't called Harry Potter and the Hot Cup.

Books of Magic follows a much more interesting plotline which Harry Potter failed to emulate.

how can you know that if you haven't read them?

[Protoclown]

I have a pretty good idea of where the Harry Potter stories go from talking to others. I do plan on reading the books myself one day, most definitely.

The guy who introduced me to Books of Magic told me that Harry Potter was fun but nothing more than fluff, really. Based on the first movie I find that statement to be very credible, but I'll reserve judgement until I've actually read them myself (most definitely the UK versions).

I can say at this point however that Books of Magic is DEFINITELY not fluff.

[sadie]

I'm amazed the 4th book wasn't called Harry Potter and the Hot Cup.
:lol

i loved the harry potter books. and the neverending story was awesome, as well.

[Zomboid]

I hate how people act as if harry potter is like the most original series to come along in a while. Most of the shit in there is just stuff a 10 year old could think up or bastardizations of classic fantasy races and such.

[Grazzt]

Harry Potter has its uses, Cable fan... A teacher I know uses it as a gateway to real fantasy.

[Zomboid]

Well that teacher's a fucking fairy.

GET IT? :lol

[The Retro Kat]

Plus Harry Potter had no muppets. The Never Ending Story was such a fun fantasy, though.

[Daphne]

I hate how people act as if harry potter is like the most original series to come along in a while. Most of the shit in there is just stuff a 10 year old could think up or bastardizations of classic fantasy races and such.

Have you read the books? And I never said it was the most original thing ever, I just think they are fun books.

[Jeanette X]

Like how they called the first one Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, instead of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (like it was around the rest of the world).

You know, I'll bet it was to make the book more tame in the eyes of conservative Christians, who think any reference to the actual occult in fantasy will corrupt their pure, innocent, little children. :blah

[Zomboid]

I hate how people act as if harry potter is like the most original series to come along in a while. Most of the shit in there is just stuff a 10 year old could think up or bastardizations of classic fantasy races and such.

Have you read the books? And I never said it was the most original thing ever, I just think they are fun books.

I wasn't referring to what you said. I just meant it seems like most people think it's more original than it is. And no, I've never read the books. I've seen both movies though. I've also skimmed through the first one.

[Daphne]

It's hardly fair to judge them if you haven't read them, you should know better ;). I really hate when people say a book or a movie is shit without reading it. Say it's not your cup of tea, but don't say it's a bastardization a 10 year old could think up. How could you know?

And I was thinking about that, Jeanette but I think Philosopher sounds a lot less damning than Sorcerer, don't you? Maybe Philosopher was harder to spell? ;)

[The Retro Kat]

http://www.angelfire.com/in2/ravey/images/fal.jpg

'Nuff said.

[Grazzt]

I've read the first Harry Potter book, and I concluded that it is garbagio.

[AChimp]

I'm pretty sure Jeanette is dead on for the reason behind the title change. I don't imagine that there was much media coverage about it in the U.S., especially since if the book is released under a different title from the very beginning, no one's really going to know the difference in the end anyways.

The Harry Potter books are pretty good, and well worth the 30 minute read it should take you to finish the entire series. If you're constipated, you should be able to blast your way (no pun intended) to about midway through the second book in no time.

The plots are fairly simplistic, but they're still fun. If you have kids, they should definitely read these. :)

[Jeanette X]

And I was thinking about that, Jeanette but I think Philosopher sounds a lot less damning than Sorcerer, don't you? Maybe Philosopher was harder to spell? ;)

No, its because the Philosopher's Stone is something that alchemists (medival occultists with a thing for chemistry) strove to create. It supposedly turned lead into gold and made you immortal and stuff...

And Retro Kat is right. The Harry Potter series can't possibly be as cool as The Neverending Story, because Harry Potter doesn't ride a giant flying dog-thing...(weren't they called luck-dragons or something?)
I want a dog-thing too...are they easy to housetrain?

[Grazzt]

Plus, Harry Potter doesn't have laser statues.

Neverending Story is also cooler because it never had a homo ad campaign.

[Zomboid]

Well, I don't think I need to read any books to know how fucking annoying and stupid "dobby" is along with how they FUCKED UP ELVES.

Neverending story is what I watched as a kid and I liked it, damnit. I didn't see the main kid's face all over the fucking place and I didn't see any obsessed fans either. I hate shit that gets so fucking popular you see it everywhere in public so I can't ever like harry potter.

[Protoclown]

I think Daphne is right. "Sorceror" certainly sounds a lot more occult than "Philosopher", as I sincerely doubt that most idiotic American parents have the slightest clue what a philosopher's stone is anyway.

[Daphne]

And Retro Kat is right. The Harry Potter series can't possibly be as cool as The Neverending Story, because Harry Potter doesn't ride a giant flying dog-thing...(weren't they called luck-dragons or something?)
I want a dog-thing too...are they easy to housetrain?
I'd agree with you, I love the luck dragon and Atreyu (1st crush on a boy!), but Bastian "they weren't horses they were unicorns" makes me want to shove needles in my eyes. I hate that mincing faggot. I fast forward all the parts with that apple eating fuckwit (except when he chases the bullies).

Harry Potter didn't 'ruin' elves. They have 'house elves'. It just so happens I can't stand the house elves, but that's besides the point ;)'

[sadie]

i found dobby much more annoying in the movie than in the book.

and i agree that sorceror would piss the right-wingers off more. my mom, for example, can't stand anything about harry potter 'cause she feels watching and reading about anything related to witchcraft pulls one out from under god's umbrella-like protection. (:()

and hating something based on its advertising is pretty lame.

[Generator86]

I'm going with Harry Potter, if only because the books, while not completely original or thought-provoking, are certainly a good time, for me at least. Well, saying that they're not thought-provoking is stretching it a bit, since they're not really designed to be read by 26-year-olds. I mean, the whole muggle=mudblood angle at least gives kids a decent view(if they're smart enough) on the shitheadedness of racism. For the older cynics, yeah, it just reeks of propaganda, but fuck it. At least she's doing her part to try to teach kids something that's still(unfortunately) relevant in modern society.

Really looking forward to the movie version of "Prisoner of Az-Kaban", if only because Gary Oldman signed on to be Sirius Black, who I always thought to be damn near perfect for the role.

Okay, since this is still somewhat on-topic for the Harry Potter fans, who do you think(sorry, I don't know if they've already cast a replacement) would be a good alternative for Dumbledore, since the actor who portrayed him(Richard Thomas, or something like that???) died of what I believe were cancer-related issues? I really can't think of anybody, myself.[/i]

[Grazzt]

I don't hate Potter because of the ad campaign, I hate the books, movies, and the fucking Harry Potter shampoo anyway.

It's just the icing on the cake of annoyance.

[Jeanette X]

my mom, for example, can't stand anything about harry potter 'cause she feels watching and reading about anything related to witchcraft pulls one out from under god's umbrella-like protection.

Maybe that she blacks out the part of the Bible where Solomon consults a witch,? :rolleyes

Is she against Dungeons and Dragons as well?

[Daphne]

Really looking forward to the movie version of "Prisoner of Az-Kaban", if only because Gary Oldman signed on to be Sirius Black, who I always thought to be damn near perfect for the role
Oh hell yeah! He and Snape (Rickman) were who I pictured in my head when I read the books. I wanted Jude Law to play Lupin, but oh well :(


Okay, since this is still somewhat on-topic for the Harry Potter fans, who do you think(sorry, I don't know if they've already cast a replacement) would be a good alternative for Dumbledore, since the actor who portrayed him(Richard Thomas, or something like that???) died of what I believe were cancer-related issues? I really can't think of anybody, myself.[/i]

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Gambon,%20Michael

I was sort of hoping Ian McKellen would get it, pulling off the nerd hat trick ;)

All kidding aside, I think the Perfect Dumbledore would be John Neville.

[sadie]

Maybe that she blacks out the part of the Bible where Solomon consults a witch,? :rolleyes
i don't remember hearing about that in sunday school. :P

Is she against Dungeons and Dragons as well?
ohyah. :(

[Zomboid]

and hating something based on its advertising is pretty lame.

Well, when you can't turn on a tv, be around large groups of people, or be in a fucking store without seeing or hearing harry potter before reading the books and generally getting a chance to like the series, it kinda ruins it for you, ok?

Daphne: They've still taken a classic fantasy race and fucked it up horribly :( .

[Jeanette X]

Maybe that she blacks out the part of the Bible where Solomon consults a witch,? :rolleyes
i don't remember hearing about that in sunday school. :P

Is she against Dungeons and Dragons as well?
ohyah. :(

Oh wait...it was Saul, not Solomon. My mistake. The passage is 1 Samuel 28:7. Ask her if she has read the passage and if she is proposing that it be cut from the Bible, if she feels that reading about anything related to witchcraft is a sin. :rolleyes


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[Daphne]

Daphne: They've still taken a classic fantasy race and fucked it up horribly :( .

Aren't you required by law to snort and push up your glasses before you say something like that? ;)

They aren't 'elves' they are 'house elves'. And if it's fantasy, can't she make them however she likes? Plus, you haven't read the books that have house elves in them, so how do you know what's fucked up and what isn't?

[Protoclown]

I'm pretty sure that Santa's elves weren't supposed to be "Tolkienesque" either...is that a problem for you as well, Zomboid?

[whoreable]

No more presents for Zomboid

[sadie]

:lol zomboid, you lesbian. :P

[Zomboid]

But christmas elves....ALRIGHT FINE. I JUST WANTED TO JUSTIFY MY HATRED FOR THAT FUCKING ANNOYING CGI "ELF" >:

Happy? Bastards.

Sadie: You're the lesbo, not I :boob :orgasm

[Grazzt]

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