If all the Conservative Pundits disappeared from the Earth..

[Miss Modular]

What would people like Vince and Ronnie do?

Would they try to form their own opinions? If so, what would their opinions be without pundits helping them along?

I'd imagine they'd be just as ignorant.

[VinceZeb]

1) I would be the same as I was before, becuase the libertarians would still exist and there is a thing out there called written word.

2) Isn't there a kitchen that is being neglected while you are typing out your pointless drivel?

[mburbank]

That was funny about that kitchen thing. 'cause Mod is female and there's this steryotype that women should stay in the kithcen. Plus, Vinth has made that 'joke' before, so now it's a 'running' joke. Oh, and since it's stereotypical the reader is supposed to have some sort of knee jerk reaction, so that makes it 'edgy'.

All I know is it's really, really, funny, and I hope he'll use it whenever the opportunity arises.

Man. "kitchen". 'Cause Mod's a chick.

"kitchen".

[kellychaos]

Does the funny ever START ... hahahahahah ... my stomach hurts! :/

[GAsux]

In all fairness Mod, couldn't the same be said for the left too? I suppose it probably holds true for any political affiliation. There are always those who accept the party line as some kind of infalable truth.

[Miss Modular]

Definitely, but I was just posing a hypothetical question.

[CaptainBubba]

This is why I won't call myself a Libertarian.

[mburbank]

"Kitchen". hah. "kitchen."












"kitchen".

[GAsux]

God damn you Max! I'm trying to restore this thread to it's inellectual intent, and not the comedic showcase Vince has created in it.



For the record, I hope "pregnant in the kicthen" is part of the next act. That would be an absolute riot!

[El Blanco]

Don't forget barefoot.


Anyway, guys like Limbaugh and Hannity got popular for a reason.

[GAsux]

Yeah, it's called the South.

[El Blanco]

Actually, Hannity is real popular on Long Island. They say things people have thought for a while. Whether you agree with them or not, the ideas were already rooted in people's minds, they just got it all on the airwaves.

[Jeanette X]

What would people like Vince and Ronnie do?
Speaking of Ronnie...where is he anyway? He hasn't been around lately.

[AChimp]

Ronnie is most likely tending to his carrying unit.

[mburbank]

"kitchen"

[Ronnie Raygun]

Ronnie is most likely tending to his carrying unit. - Chimp

What is that supposed to mean?

[AChimp]

Well, you're going to be having a kid, right? You have to maintain your carrying unit's optimum status by providing it with food, etc. ;)

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Anyway, guys like Limbaugh and Hannity got popular for a reason.

And guys like Michael Moore sell lots of books and movie tix for a reason, too. That doesn't make them insighful or accurate, it means they can grab attention and keep it.

I have listened to Hannity since he was first hired by WABC in NY, and I don't know that I've ever heard a more popmous, close-minded, and ignorant human being in my life.

I like Mark Simone (sp?) who comes on on Saturdays, he's cool, although conservative.

[Ronnie Raygun]

"Well, you're going to be having a kid, right? You have to maintain your carrying unit's optimum status by providing it with food, etc." - Chimp

Actually, No. I will not be having a "kid". My baby boy, "Gabriel" was born prematurely on the 20th and we buried him 2 days ago. My WIFE and I are having a tough time dealing with it so please don't refer to her as a "carrying unit".

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Good Lord Ronnie, I'm very sorry to hear about that.

I know we're not friends, but I offer my sincerest thoughts and prayers.

[AChimp]

I am sorry to hear that, Ronnie. :(

[Jeanette X]

"Well, you're going to be having a kid, right? You have to maintain your carrying unit's optimum status by providing it with food, etc." - Chimp

Actually, No. I will not be having a "kid". My baby boy, "Gabriel" was born prematurely on the 20th and we buried him 2 days ago. My WIFE and I are having a tough time dealing with it so please don't refer to her as a "carrying unit".

Oh man, I'm sorry Ronnie. I didn't know. :(

[VinceZeb]

Kevin, Rush and Hannity have been proven to be more correct than Moore ever has, and that is something even you cannot deny.

[Jeanette X]

Kevin, Rush and Hannity have been proven to be more correct than Moore ever has, and that is something even you cannot deny.
Rush Limbaugh? The man who claimed that there were MORE Native Americans now than before white people arrived?
Here is an essay on Rush's statements on the environment, and rebuttals to them.
http://www.bestofmaui.com/rush.html

This link contains more rebuttals, specifically to statements in his book, "The Way Things Ought To Be"
http://members.aol.com/Falconnn/rushlie.html

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Kevin, Rush and Hannity have been proven to be more correct than Moore ever has, and that is something even you cannot deny.

When? By who? Where?

Stop interjecting in conversations you can't finish, it's getting old.

[Ronnie Raygun]

This is from one of Jean X's sources.

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Chlorofluorocarbons and Ozone Depletion:

RUSH FICTION:

Limbaugh proposes that environmental "alarmists and prophets of
doom" have exaggerated the problem of ozone depletion,
suggesting that it has been limited to "occasional reduced levels of
ozone over Antarctica." 1/

SCIENTIFIC FACT:

Substantially reduced levels of ozone have been measured over
most of the globe, including North America, Europe, and elsewhere.
In fact, scientists have observed a thinning of the ozone layer at all
latitudes outside the tropics. By 1991, the depletion over North
America averaged nearly 5 percent. 2/ Since 1991, ozone depletion
has further intensified. 3/

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This is what my source says about Ozone depletion.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/10/17/ozone.hole.size/index.html

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Nobel Prize-winning chemist Sherwood Rowland and other researchers predicted last year the ozone hole would continue to grow through the first decade of the 21st century, followed by four or five decades of "healing." They said if the ban on CFCs holds, the ozone hole could close up by the end of the 21st century.

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......and if you look furthur into it you will see that the Ozone situation did a 180 under Reagan's watch with his Montreal Protocol of 1987.

....which goes back to what Rush was saying that the Ozone issue is really a non issue that is in control and is getting better but that doesn't stop the left from scaring people into voting for them and blowing these issues way out of proportion.

Sorry, I didn't look into your source more.

I'm just tired or lazy or somnthjingf..

[Ronnie Raygun]

....and thanks Kevin for the kind words.

I truly lost my innocence last Tues. when I was holding my child who was perfectly formed with the exception of his lungs. He even had our features...like my wifes ears and my hands. Never before had I truly understood the horrors of life. No words can describe it.

The only thing left for me to do is to follow in the footsteps of my Jewish brother David, father of Soloman. He experienced the same exact situation and relied on his faith to help him through those troubled times.

I have cried more this week than than all the other weeks of my life combined.....and my wife is taking it even worse.

Kevin, we are friends.

Thankyou.

[The_Rorschach]

I wish I could say something Ronnie, aside from offering a sympathetic word on condolence. . .I can't empathize, but for what its worth, I am deeply sorry it had to happen. I know it cannot be easy losing a child, I can only hope you have friends and family to support you right now.

[mburbank]

Ronnie;

I'm so sorry. I can't imagine anything worse and my deepest sympathies to you and your wife. I may have mentioned my wife is in Early intervention, and I also have a friend who lost one of her twins to Menkes syndrome. Through the two of them I'm hooked up with some organizations, particularly internet groups for beraved parents. If you think anything like this would prove helpful, PM me and I'll send you info.

[Jeanette X]

This is from one of Jean X's sources.

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Chlorofluorocarbons and Ozone Depletion:

RUSH FICTION:

Limbaugh proposes that environmental "alarmists and prophets of
doom" have exaggerated the problem of ozone depletion,
suggesting that it has been limited to "occasional reduced levels of
ozone over Antarctica." 1/

SCIENTIFIC FACT:

Substantially reduced levels of ozone have been measured over
most of the globe, including North America, Europe, and elsewhere.
In fact, scientists have observed a thinning of the ozone layer at all
latitudes outside the tropics. By 1991, the depletion over North
America averaged nearly 5 percent. 2/ Since 1991, ozone depletion
has further intensified. 3/
Rush's credibility would depend on when his book was written, and how much information was available at the time...I'll see what I can find out about it.

[ItalianStereotype]

christ, ronnie, that's horrible. i'm so sorry for your loss.

[The_Rorschach]

" Rush's credibility would depend on when his book was written, and how much information was available at the time...I'll see what I can find out about it."

No Jeanette, once again your view point is fatally flawed. His credibility depends upon the veracity of his statements, not the popularity and reception of his statements. Otherwise Churchill was an idiot for suspecting Germany of any wrong doing before the fall of Prauge.

Secondly. . .

EDIT: Colour me humbled

[Ronnie Raygun]

"Rush's credibility would depend on when his book was written, and how much information was available at the time...I'll see what I can find out about it." - Jean X

It doesn't matter when the book was written. The fact that evidence points toward Ozone being on the mend suggests he was correct. What he made was a prediction that appears to be true. The Ozone situation was blown out of proportion by the left.

Here's another article that suggests the Ozone is on the mend.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/09/30/ozone.holes/index.html

Have a look at this.

"Recent satellite images reveal that the ozone hole had shrunk considerably compared with the previous two years. Scientists caution that the data are insufficient to conclude that the fragile ozone layer is on the mend."

In other words, there's not sufficient evidence to say that proof is absolute but evidence would support Rush more than it would your source.

Also,

"Moreover, the hole had dwindled in size before the split because of unusually warm temperatures in the atmosphere, according to NASA ozone scientist Paul Newman."

This also supports Rush's theories concering the healing process of the environment. Rush always says that the Earth is not as fragile as the left wing environmentalists make it seem. The Nasa scientist seems to agree.

[GAsux]

I don't know how often you guys are around young people, well, by young I mean late teens I suppose, but I am pretty frequently and it saddens me a bit.

I work on a college campus that is pretty liberal dominated and it entertains me. It's no Berkley, although many of the "activist" students would like to think so. Regardless, I'm saddened by how many people use the "narrow minded" label on people who don't agree with their point of view when in reality they are guilty of the exact same thing, only from opposite side of the spectrum.

Partisanship sucks.

[Protoclown]

Shit, Ronnie. I am truly sorry to hear about your loss. :(

I cannot even imagine going through something like that, and though we do not often see eye to eye on much of anything, I have to say that you are a strong person. You have to be to get through something like that.

I hope that life treats you and your wife more kindly on the road ahead.