The Poor, Poor Pitiful Poor

[VinceZeb]

From Boortz:

THE POOR, POOR PITIFUL POOR

Some of you remember the conversation I had with “Cheyenne” yesterday. She has two kids, not married, and makes about $14,000. She pays absolutely no income tax whatsoever and gets about $4,000 from the government --- that sickening Earned Income Tax Credit nonsense. What’s more, she sees absolutely nothing wrong with her scenario … after all, her parents pay taxes. I know you remember the conversation because I’ve received quite a few messages telling me what a heartless slob I am for challenging Cheyenne’s claim to someone else’s property.

My guess is that for most of her life Cheyenne has been surrounded by a bunch of supportive friends telling her that none of this is her fault.. You have two kids you can’t support? Well, that’s not your fault … blame their father(s). You don’t make enough money? That greedy boss of yours is trying to just keep it all for himself.

So – finally someone spells it out. This lady made choices, and those choices led to her being a single mother of two with marketable job skills …. And now she feels entitled to someone else’s money.

I took a few minutes to scrip a little meeting from a Cheyenne-type citizen and her congressman. See what you think.

(As the curtain rises we find Congressman Dewey Cheatem sitting behind his desk in his home district office. Ima Whiner, one of his constituents, has wormed her way into an appointment with Congressman Cheatem to voice some concerns.)
Yes, Ms. Whiner, what can I do for you?

I need some help. I just can’t make ends meet any more.

What kind of help?

Money. I need some money. I just don’t make enough money to support my family.

Your family? Tell me about them.

I have two kids. Seven and ten.

What does your husband do?

I’m not married.

Divorced?

No. I’m just not married.

Does the kid’s father help to support them?

No, neither one of them do.

Neither one of them?

Yeah. They have different fathers.

What do you do for a living?

Nails.

You do nails?

Yeah, you know, nails. I do nails at Nail Fantasy at the mall.

How much money do you make doing nails.

Not enough. I make about $14,000 a year.

How much education do you have?

I like finished high school, you know, but college just wasn’t for me. I wanted a new car, you know, and I needed to go to work to get the money for payments.

Your oldest child is ten. How old are you?

I’m 26.

OK .. what do you want from me? Why did you come see me today?

I need more money. I know there must be some sort of like government checks I can get. I keep hearing about people getting checks for all sorts of things. I want a check.

With your income, you don’t pay income taxes, do you?

No, but I have payroll taxes … and I should get some of that money back. Other people are getting checks. I want a check.

Wait a minute --- I have something here that might help you.

(Congressman Cheatem reaches into his desk drawer and pulls out a .38 caliber revolver – he pushes it across the desk to Ima.)

Do you know what this is?

It’s a gun.

Can you use one?

Yeah, my first baby’s daddy showed me how.

OK then. I want you to take this gun, go find someone who has been more responsible with their life than you have, and I want you to use this gun to rob them. That way you should be able to get the money you say you need.

Rob them? I can’t just walk up to someone and rob them! Are you crazy?

Why can’t you?

Because that’s, you know, illegal. It’s, like, illegal! I could get caught and they could put me in jail!

But you’re here asking me for a check! What if there was some sort of a government check you could get, where do you think that money would come from?

I don’t know. The government?

Sure, the government. But where does the government get its money?

The taxpayers, I guess.

Yeah, the taxpayers. So you want me to arrange for some money to be taken from these taxpayers and given to you, right?

Well, other people are getting checks. Why can’t I get one?

Why don’t you just take this gun and go get some!

I can’t!

You mean you won’t. You won’t pick up this gun and go take someone else’s money, but you feel perfectly comfortable coming into my office and asking me to, right?

What do you mean?

Well just how in the hell do you think we get the money you want us to give to you? Do you think these people just come wandering in here with buckets of their money just begging us to find some irresponsible losers to give it to? Come on, girl? We take it, just like I suggested you take it. We take it at the point of a gun! We point that gun at those poor saps and we say “hand it over, or we’ll take every damn thing that you own.”

Well, everybody has to pay taxes!

You don’t!

I know, but that’s because, like , I don’t make enough money!

And whose fault is that?

It’s not my fault. I can’t help it if I just haven’t been as lucky as those other people.

Yeah, you can’t help it. You decided that you needed a new car and you couldn’t afford one if you were going to college, then you decided to get pregnant as a teenager by two different deadbeats who got between your legs and then out of your life … and it’s all someone else’s fault.

Hey! I don’t have to take that from you!

OK … calm down. (The Congressman puts the gun back in his desk drawer) You don’t need to use this gun. You don’t need to because we can.

Who’s “we?”

We .. the government. We can do what you can’t. Like I said, we can use this gun to take property from someone else … and I’ll see to it that some of that money gets to you. You’ll get your check.

Oh, thank you!

But there’s a catch here. You have to do something for me.

Sure! Anything!

No, no. Button your blouse up. That’s not what I had in mind. I have plenty of interns around here that would cause me a lot less grief than you would. What you have to do is get out there and register to vote … register to vote, and then remember just who it is that put that check in your pocket the next time an election rolls around.

No problem! I’ll do it, I promise!

[Abe Slank]

It reads like a Jack Chick track.

[mburbank]

Somebody push Vinth's spit valve! He's gonna blow!!

[mburbank]

It's too bad 'Cheyene' can't afford an SUV. Then she could deduct it. I wish she'd made better choices. maybe she should move her mailing adress to Bermuda. What I'd really like is for some journalist half way worth their salt to see if this woman is real, or fictional. Back when some papers still had their own balls, investigation of Reagan's annecdotal poverty bashing revealed he'd made up the people in them.




Tax Law Omits Child Credit in Low-Income Brackets

By DAVID FIRESTONE The New York Times

WASHINGTON, May 28 A last-minute revision by House and Senate leaders in the tax bill that President Bush (news - web sites) signed today will prevent millions of minimum-wage families from receiving the increased child credit that is in the measure, say Congressional officials and outside groups.


Most taxpayers will receive a $400-a-child check in the mail this summer as a result of the law, which raises the child tax credit, to $1,000 from $600. It had been clear from the beginning that the wealthiest families would not receive the credit, which is intended to phase out at high incomes.

But after studying the bill approved on Friday, liberal and child advocacy groups discovered that a different group of families would also not benefit from the $400 increase families who make just above the minimum wage.

[AChimp]

Hmm.

Cheyenne should have used the gun to rob the Congressman.

[VinceZeb]

burbank, I just got done talking to Boortz. If my water filled with head cro-magnon ass can do it, cant an intellectual elite like yourself do so? And since you disagree, they will push you to the front of the line.

[kellychaos]

As always, that read like worst kind of unsubstantiated right wing literature." Hmmm ... if only I could have an interview in which I skillfully manipulate a dullard parasite to play right into my hands and express my exact agenda. I would be the envy of all my Vinth-like friends. Wait! I know. I'll make up a white trash name like Misty ... no Cheyenne and fake an interview." I like the fact that he only uses her first name in order to protect his "source". :rolleyes

[Bennett]

"Cheyenne - The face of pride never died
Cheyenne - The true blue water
Cheyenne - I celebrate for you and I
Sifting through the pieces of the broken prize

Cheyenne - I'm sending out satellites
Cheyenne - I'm hovering quite largely
Cheyenne - In paradox in suicide
Cheyenne in white

And if an innocent minute lives for the light
The time is right
Define a line
To hold back the night - inside
A single glimpse of purity
In a flickering light
Cheyenne sees right

Cheyenne - A drama not acted out
Cheyenne - In destiny stay gazing
Cheyenne - In witnessing if I'm to miss
Cheyenne in white"

[GAsux]

Vince,
Why don't you post a transcript of YOUR conversation with Boortz. I would find that far more entertaining than "Cheyenne".

[VinceZeb]

1) dont have a recording of it, my phone started clicking in the end because of a storm we are having

2) it was a little spoof he wrote. Besides, I heard Chyanne on the phone yesterday. She was dispicible.

[AChimp]

Vinth: "Are you really Neil Boortz?"
Boortz: "Yes."
Vinth: "I want to have your baby."
Boortz: "What the..."
Vinth: "I promise not to have an abortion."
Boortz: "No! Get away from me! Security!"
Vinth: :wank :eek

[kellychaos]

:lol 1-800-555-BORTZ

"Hi ya big boy! Are you sick of those liberal bastards taking your money and giving it to a bunch of welfare parasites? Do you like ethnic women? If you want to hear more, the charge is $3.50 for the first minute and @2.00 for each additional minute. Please have your credit card number available and, sorry, no CODs."

[VinceZeb]

Amazingly enough you don't try to call him and challenge him on anything. I figured as much, coming from a pussy such as yourself.

[Zhukov]

Don't you just hate people who never try to state their views?

They're such pussies.

[kellychaos]

Don't you just hate people who never try to state their views?

They're such pussies.


Grrrr ... quiet YOU! What's your penis size, btw? Call me. :/

:love Vinth

[mburbank]

Vinth;
1.) Your phone call sounds disturbingly like your submarine letter and un named medical condition. Your phone started clicking, did it? Like you'd get on the air with your hero and NOT be taping it. I assume you spoke to his producer first, since rdio show hosts don't take blind calls. He would have screened you for topicality, personality, sanity, etc. That would have given you plenty of time to clean your pants and get a taperecorder going. I suppose it's possible you spoke with him, but I can't imagine tht happened wiythout you immediately posting it on your site.

2.) I'm not contesting the fact that person can call him, you or Cheyene, you IDIOT. We all know the 'transcript' was a 'spoof'. I'm saying that the caller was either a shill with a script or the producer screened until he got someone really retarded on the line. It's no more meaningful than me picking on you.

put that in your 'water filled with head' and smoke it. I hope it didn't strain your wittle backy too bad to talk on the phone.

[Protoclown]

Vince is a poor, poor, pitiful mental midget :(

[VinceZeb]

Max, you are a fucking tool.

You want to know how the conversation went with Belinda, the call screener?

"Hello, WSB AM"

"Hi, Belinda. I'd like to talk to Neil please."

"Ok, what's your name?"

"Vincent from *place of residence*"

"What do you want to talk about"

"*little bit about my situation and what Chyanne and talked about*"

"Ok, stay on hold, don't say "Good Morning" and thank you."

"Thank you, Sir... I mean ma'am"

*Belinda laughed and then I waited on hold till it went national*

I waited for an hour and a half, then I talked to boortz. I metioned that my dad's cure for ADD was a sturdy hand and a leather belt. he laughed and said I was "Kung Fu'ed". I then had a conversation with him about my generation and the dumbasses (i.e. a lot of people on this board) in my generation that think they "deserve something". He then read an article while I was on the phone because he wanted to read it and made sure I heard it since I stream him in since we don't get it from St. Louis. The phone clicked and he asked me to stop clicking whatever it was. It was the phone acting up and the power as well because we had storms here.

Now, how much money would you your hooked-nose self like to put up against 120+ radio staions in America, Neil Boortz, his crew, and myself? That's what I thought, bitch.

I am already working on something for Boortz' listeners, and it will be cool. I talked on his show, it aint that big of a deal. I have talked on Savage's show, Limbaugh's show, hannity's show twice, and Ingraham's as well, and I will be meeting her when she goes to Missouri for her book tour.

[AChimp]

Boortz bitched you out for clicking! :lol

[VinceZeb]

Uhhh, yeah. Considering it must have been loud and annoying when he was trying to talk, I don't see a reason why he wouldn't have.

[kellychaos]

Uhhh, yeah. Considering it must have been loud and annoying when he was trying to talk, I don't see a reason why he wouldn't have.

You talking about the clicking or you? :)

[FS]

Did Boortz masturbate when you screamed your vision of the ideal military into the phone?

[Zosimus]

Vince, admittingly I haven't read the thread between you and Cheyenne but from what i gather... i didn't miss anything more than reading what some pea-size-brain moron is trying to tell someone, who's real life circumstances he knows NOTHING about!!
You are ragging out on a girl, who got pregnant when she was 16!!! Maybe you should read how that made (poor) GothNaPrepsbody feel........

http://www.i-mockery.net/viewtopic.php?t=3490&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

The narrow-minded judgement-calls from you have no place in reality! Just who the fuck do you think you are? What puts you in the position to judge Cheyenne?
Your primary deal is to rag on anyone who is more at a disadvantage than yourself.I can understand why. You have some self-destructive feelings towards yourself, so you need to make others look shabby in order to lift yourself out of the dust...but, I expected that being that you have such HUGE balls (or was your dick?) in the $'s department that you wouldn't be living with your lil'ol' mom and pop no more!!

Dearest, poor, Vince, rookie to life, you think that the almighty dollar is going to save your ass :lol ...I am so fuckin' gonna laugh my ass off at you (all the way down into my grave) on the day, when there aren't any trees (thank to you and your likes), no clean water and only poisoned air left to breathe, and then you, little Vince, you will be sitting there, trying to figure out how many ways to prepare a stew from your 20 dollar bills!

Sincerely Vince, I feel really sorry for you.

[mburbank]

Okay, Vinth, here's what I get from your epic tale.

Belinda, if she does indeed exist, is a very bad producer. If that's how she usually does her job there must be a bucket load of really bad calls on the show. If you ever land your dream radio job, make sure you get a bettter producer than Belinda, or your going to be screwed.

If you waited an hour to go on the air with your hero, I cannot believe you didn't tape it.

"Now, how much money would you your hooked-nose self like to put up against 120+ radio staions in America, Neil Boortz, his crew, and myself? That's what I thought, bitch."

The Jew joke was really, really funny. I don't know where you pull that Jew stuff from, because it's funny every time and I nver expect it. I know a fella who talks to himslef as much as you must makes a practice of answering his own questions, but since we're not 'chatting' on 'aim' how's about you shut your chow hole and let me answer my own questions. "That's what I thought, Bitch." Hah! Like you think at all. If you are suggesting we bet, how do you intend to prove your claim? And if I win, how do you propose to pay me? Here's a bet I like better. Whatever state you live in I bet you can't pass the standardized high school graduation test. THAT's something I'd put my money on.

It is perfectly possible you spoke on his show, and you're quite correct, it's no big deal. It's perfectly possible you spoke on those other shows as well. But I doubt it. Why? Not becuase it's difficult or impressive or even unlikely. I doubt it, becuase you are a huge blowhard with a history of making claims, insisting you can back them up and then failing to do so and claiming you don't care.

Where is your submarine letter?
What is the name of the medical condition your own Mother the Nurse can't remember that kept you out of the army?
What is the legendary truth behind the time you defended your family, which you later defined to be anybody, with weapons?
So maybe you blathered on a nationally syndicated radio show. But you are the E-boy who cried E-wolf and if you said your hair was brown I be inclined to think you were lying. That is, after all, what liars mostly do.

[Jeanette X]

So what are you trying to prove Vince? That anyone who is poor is so because they are lazy?

[mburbank]

Oh, P.S. Dingus. When I'm on radio shows you can stream on the net, and I have some nice lead time, say an hour and a half, I let folks know so they can listen in. You might try it, what with you having YOUR OWN FRIGGIN' WEB SITE!

[Zhukov]

I did well at school.
I didn't get pregnant.
I don't drink do drugs or have a social life.
I can't afford to go to University (College?)
I work 15 hour shifts for $AU10 an hour, and I am exhausted (You can empathise can't you Vince?).

I still can't afford to buy new shoes.

Man I'm a lazy fuck. :/

[AChimp]

What is the legendary truth behind the time you defended your family, which you later defined to be anybody, with weapons?

You must have missed that thread, Mr. Burbank. Vinth used a butterknife to fend off an angry Chinese restaurant owner when he was 12. Vinth's dad was a "big" fellow, and he took "all you can eat" quite seriously.

According to his account, it was quite the harrowing experience... the angry owner yelling about health regulations and the necessity of taking a new plate at each trip to the buffet... young Vinth, brandishing the utensil, mouthing off about dirty immigrants not speaking English in between leering glances at the owner's daughter... his father stuffing his fat face with tiger prawns... his mother surgically removing meat from the chicken bones and filling her grocery bag-lined purse...

[VinceZeb]

Where is your submarine letter?
What is the name of the medical condition your own Mother the Nurse can't remember that kept you out of the army?
What is the legendary truth behind the time you defended your family, which you later defined to be anybody, with weapons?
So maybe you blathered on a nationally syndicated radio show. But you are the E-boy who cried E-wolf and if you said your hair was brown I be inclined to think you were lying. That is, after all, what liars mostly do.


1. Like I said before, it got tossed out. It wasn't that big of a deal in the first place. I don't why your Christ killer mind can't understand that, but please try.
2. It's called hives. I get it due to extreme temp change. Is it that hard to comprehend.
3. NOYB


I have answerd this time and time before, and I'm quite sick of doing so.

[Zhukov]

"I have answerd this time and time before, and I'm quite sick of doing so."

Maybe you could answer new and exciting questions? Questions that, while they may look difficult, are easy when you have a huge dick and massive brain power.

[FS]

2. It's called hives. I get it due to extreme temp change. Is it that hard to comprehend.


No it's not, Turny McSpinaround. I'm too lazy to look up the quote, but I distinctly remember you telling Chojin that it wasn't hives, just a condition similar to it.

[kellychaos]

Vinth is stealing material from the "Big Book of Jew Jokes". >: :plagarism

[Protoclown]

I also seem to remember Vince saying that his ancestry is Italian, which means HIS people are the ones who killed Christ, not Burbank's. You know, since Christ was a Jew and Burbank (if I recall) said he comes from a line of Russian Jews, and I don't think the Russians were really hanging around Christ at the time...but what do I know, I regularly disagree with Vince, so I'm obviously misinformed.

[VinceZeb]

I was wrong, FS. I can be wrong, ya know.

[Carnivore]

You excel at it.

[Cybernetico]

Touching back on an earlier note, people who are poor and werent just born into a poor famiily have no one to blame but themselves.

They made mistakes time and again, they have no use to society at all.

If people like that are going to be soaking up the taxpayers money and giving nothing back, then they should be lit on fire to die in front of thier family, because they are useless.

Thank you

[FS]

And sick people too! When they stop serving use to society, GAS EM.

Old people too.

And the handicapped.

And kids!

And women!

[kellychaos]

Especially handicapped. Parking space takin' mofos.

[FS]

I forgot non-caucasian races. Who the fuck needs a pygmy?

[mburbank]

The mythic submarine Letter: I bring it up as a prime example of you bragging about something inconsequential nd not beng able to back it up.

The hives: I bring it up as an example of a lie so tangled that you can't even recall what you have said and what you haven't.

The weapons: A lie you know better than to get into at all.

All in all, you have no credability.

[VinceZeb]

Max, prove I have no credability.


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Exactly, no matter how much you try, you can't. You can go only by what I say on this message board. What's that? Do you hear that? It's the sound of your head and thus your argument deflating. Like I said before, I am not out to prove anything to anyone here. I am out to have a good time.

[Carnivore]

Max obviously forgot with whom he was dealing and omitted a word from that sentence. You have no credibility here. Nobody here puts any stock in anything you say. I'm sure 99% of people would've understood what Max meant, but we're dealing with the dark gray crayon that somehow snuck into the box of neon crayons taking the expression "not the brightest crayon in the box" to a whole new level.

[mburbank]

Hee hee.

Vinth. You might not have noticed, but on a message board all you are is what you post. Same on a web site, in this case your own.

You're falling back on your old (though admittedly brilliant) "So what? I don't care!" argument.

It's painfully obvious you do care. But if you're only out to have a good time on the net, I say bravo. Me too. And you make my time fun, you simple, shaved, hydrocephallic squirrell monkey.

[AChimp]

I find it disturbing that Vinth counts spreading hate on the Internet as "a good time." :(

[VinceZeb]

Chimp, show me the "hate" i spread. Please, good examples.

[Zhukov]

I find from your posts that you hate Jews, the poor, Socialists, 'Liberals', Canada and mburbank.

"socialist fool"
"Christ Killer"
" lock-step socalist idiots"
"But you are canadian, so talking shit and doing nothing is pretty much you trade, eh?"
"big liberal idiot"
"Any other country that is a threat gets the same shit done to them."



Also, the thoughts that you spread like a virus, make me hate you.

Hence, the "Hate Spreading". :)

[VinceZeb]

I don't hate jews, I just dont like Max.

[mburbank]

Ah. Well, then, mocking my culture is a very effective way to taunt me and not 'spread hate'. Sort of like when you talk about 'immigrants' who can't 'keep their legs shut' which I guess is some sort of slam at Chimp.

Actually, I don't think Vinth does hate Jews in particular. His use of anti semitic language is more reflective of his lack of immagination than any ingrained racism. His inability to understand that 'actions have consequences' and that his choice of insults makes him appear to be antisemitic makes him a either a hypocrite or just a big idiot, depending on if you see him as stupid or borderline retarded.

No, as I've said before, Vince is no racist, he's just a very dumb person brimming with free floating, general hatred, which he spreads every which way. Imagine a malfunction lawn sprinkler attached to a leeching field instead of a water main, and you'll get the general idea.

[VinceZeb]

Amzingly enough, I am supposed to be an idiot but you have not found a suitable place for me and you to take part in a debate with an fair, balanced and neutral setting as our arena.

[Zosimus]

Amzingly enough, I am supposed to be an idiot but you have not found a suitable place for me and you to take part in a debate with an fair, balanced and neutral setting as our arena.

What?! I don't think I understand what you mean. What do you mean by: "but you have not found a suitable place for me" in the middle of that sentence? :confused

[mburbank]

I'll get around to it. I offered a place, if I recall correctly. When you asked at Newsfilter, you got a whopping single response. I guess they're not that jazzed about watching you tumble over your own rhetorical ass.

I can't imagine that any place even remotely neutral would be pleased to see you and I come traipsing in their for debate. I'll tell you what, do SOME of the work, will you? Name few places you think of as neutral, I'll check 'em out, and I PROMISE to pick one of them, no matter what's on the list you provide me with. Or Newsfilter, or anyplace but your site, becuase honestly I don't want that E-shit on my E-shoes.