Fifth Harry Book

[Daphne]

I won't spoil it, but I just had to brag that I've read it

:)

[whoreable]

Well I think we can all guess were you "bought" your copy (http://www.chinapost.com.tw/detail.asp?ID=38581&GRP=A) >:

[Daphne]

I didn't say I bought it, I just said I read it ;)

(But for the record it wasn't stolen or anything, but I won't go into how I got it so that said parties don't get in shit)

[Immortal Goat]

I have it reserved for the actual release date, and I can not wait. I know it is Friday, but still, I WANT IT NOW!!

(cue Willy Wonka music in the background as I throw a fit and kick a midget.)

[Daphne]

It's not due out till Saturday, I'm afraid, not Friday.

And I've got it so nyah nyah, Veruca ;)

[Protoclown]

Harry and the Hendersons have books? OMG WTF?? :eek

[pjalne]

How does it compare to Goblet of Fire?

[O71394658]

GET A FUCKING LIFE!

[Protoclown]

Now now, son. Just because you can't read doesn't mean you have to get your soggy panties in a bunch.

[O71394658]

http://www.ptnet.lsu.edu/laptop/fabre/Costumes%20Galore%20Webpage/Harry%20Potter.jpg


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[Protoclown]

I couldn't give a flying fuck about Harry Potter. But I do enjoy reading. What's so wrong with that?

[O71394658]

Nothing's wrong with that. I never said there was. Reading = good stuff.

Just that Potter freaks annoy me.

[Daphne]

then don't post in the thread, you fucking gaylord!

I bet you haven't even read the books, you're just another tedious little counter culture fuckwit who hates shit because it's "in".

I've been reading these books since they came out, I've been waiting 3 years for this book, and I enjoy it. HOW DOES THAT INDICATE ME NOT HAVING A LIFE, YOU COCK SMOKER? it's not like I fucking dress up like a wizard and have fucking parties!

I'm engaged to be married to a wonderful man, I've been supporting myself since the age of sixteen and I'm going back to school to become a vet. I assure you, I bet I have a better life than you do.

[O71394658]

then don't post in the thread, you fucking gaylord!

I bet you haven't even read the books, you're just another tedious little counter culture fuckwit who hates shit because it's "in".

I've been reading these books since they came out, I've been waiting 3 years for this book, and I enjoy it. HOW DOES THAT INDICATE ME NOT HAVING A LIFE, YOU COCK SMOKER? it's not like I fucking dress up like a wizard and have fucking parties!

I'm engaged to be married to a wonderful man, I've been supporting myself since the age of sixteen and I'm going back to school to become a vet. I assure you, I bet I have a better life than you do.

The best part of that thread was when you tried to "prove" you had a life. :lol

Nor am I "anti-culture" anything. What a dumb assumption. Funny, because I'm not surprised.

My statement was a joke. I'm sorry that went over your head. I'll be sure to simplify it just for you next time. Now hurry back to your 4th-grade-reading-level-book...and don't forget your cape...

[Protoclown]

Quit wasting all our good air, you mouth-breathing troglodyte.

[Daphne]

:lol

I like how he avoided the bit about not reading the books ;)


Nor am I "anti-culture" anything. What a dumb assumption. Funny, because I'm not surprised.

I didn't say "anti-culture" I said COUNTER culture. I might be reading a "4th-grade-reading-level-book", but at least I can read.

And the only cape I have is my Superman cape and it doesn't match :(

[O71394658]

:lol

I like how he avoided the bit about not reading the books ;)


Nor am I "anti-culture" anything. What a dumb assumption. Funny, because I'm not surprised.

I didn't say "anti-culture" I said COUNTER culture. I might be reading a "4th-grade-reading-level-book", but at least I can read.

And the only cape I have is my Superman cape and it doesn't match :(

I read the first one, and I thought it was okay. Nothing to get all excited over, though.

Counter/anti, eh? Synonyms to me.

[Daphne]

to me "anti" means you're against culture of any kind, wheras I'm implying that you don't seem to like 'fads'.

And if you've only read one, how do you know it's nothing to get excited over? Don't you get excited about books and movies? What's wrong with enjoying something harmless? It's not like it's hurting you that I like to read these books.

[Esuohlim]

So how long will this one be? It seems each book is exponentially larger than the last. :(

[Generator86]

I heard it's supposed to be something like 850 pages or thereabouts. That's asking a lot out of kids.

[Protoclown]

Yeah, and it's supposed to set their hair on fire and sell their soul in a demonic pact with satan while they read it OMG! :eek

[O71394658]

to me "anti" means you're against culture of any kind, wheras I'm implying that you don't seem to like 'fads'.

And if you've only read one, how do you know it's nothing to get excited over? Don't you get excited about books and movies? What's wrong with enjoying something harmless? It's not like it's hurting you that I like to read these books.

Again, I really don't care. It's all a joke. Good for you if you like them.

[NOTINAGAYWAY]

I'm so friggin' getting it. Heheh, sex.

[Daphne]

So how long will this one be? It seems each book is exponentially larger than the last. :(

the UK version is 766 pages, but I think yours has a bigger font (and don't yours have illustrations, too?) so it's almost 900 pages.

If I had kids I wouldn't let them read this one. It's really violent, so I don't think they're going to be able to make it a PG movie without it sucking.

[pjalne]

What kicks ass about the Potter books is that they grow more mature as the series continues, so kids can grow up with them. Wish I was a kid :(

[AChimp]

I pre-ordered from Amazon, but I didn't bother paying for that overnight delivery crap, so I was pretty surprised when I got home from work yesterday and it had already arrived! Amazon included a note that said they upgraded my delivery mode free of charge for being such a good customer. :picklehat

Little do they realize, I still have 6 of those Book of Challenges that they sent me by accident! Mwuhahahaha!

Anyways, I'm looking forward to reading this one. I'll have to skim through the previous books so I can remember some of the details first, though. I'm also trying to finish Book 11 of WoT, and it's damn boring as hell. :(

[quote]If I had kids I wouldn't let them read this one. It's really violent. . .[quote]
That makes me sad. :(

It's not like reading about violence or watching it on TV is going to turn your kid into a serial killer. Oh no! My child lost his innocence by reading Harry Potter! Hell, if you're gonna prevent your kids from reading it because of "violence," then you might as well lump yourself in with the people who want to ban it because of the Occult. :(

[Daphne]

I should reiterate, that I wouldn't let little kids read it. I agree that kids should get to read scary stuff, but seriously, this is much more violent and scary compared to the last ones. Fuck, I'm 26 and I was crying!

And thank you very much, but I won a comment of the week award from CityTV for writing to the assholes trying to ban it >: I'm not saying all kids shouldn't read it, but I’m saying if I HAD kids, I'd damn sure sit down with them and read it with them because it's fucking dark.

Please don't ever accuse me of being a censor nazi.

[AChimp]

Why shouldn't little kids be allowed to read it? >:

[Esuohlim]

Are you saying they took The Shining and put a Harry Potter book jacket over it? >:

[Daphne]

Why shouldn't little kids be allowed to read it? >:

Why don't you READ it, and then tell me if you'd let an 8 year old read it. I dunno, I guess it depends on the kid, but like I said, I'm fucking 26 and I was upset!

Are you saying they took The Shining and put a Harry Potter book jacket over it?
No, I'd let my kid read the Shining.

[AChimp]

Why don't you READ it, and then tell me if you'd let an 8 year old read it. I dunno, I guess it depends on the kid, but like I said, I'm fucking 26 and I was upset!
I think I will. >:

[Daphne]

Good! You do that! >:

I hope you enjoy it!

[kellychaos]

Are you saying they took The Shining and put a Harry Potter book jacket over it? >:

Funny that this particular reference was made. Stephen King was just on the "Today" show this morning promoting his upcoming sequels to The Dark Towers and had nothing but praise for the Rowling's books ... but was wondering when, exactly, she started writing for adults. Of course, that's hearsay on my part. I haven't read any of her books myself ... yet.

[AChimp]

Good! You do that! >:

I hope you enjoy it!
Fine! And I'll laugh when the people die. >:

[Daphne]

Joke's on you it's a person >:

[pjalne]

Can't comment on teh fifth one as I haven't read it, but yeah, these books really grow dark.

* SLIGHT POILERS THAT DON'T REALLY MATTER *

The Dementors in the third book are creepy as hell, and if they pull them off right in the third movie kids will shit themselves. The fourth book gets really harsh at the end, and there are people who die without really making much of a difference to the story except helping Harry mature. Bad deaths. :rock

[Esuohlim]

So you'd let your kid read The Shining, but not this Harry Potter book? :eek

[Daphne]

I wish I'd never said that, because 1) I hate kids 2) I'm never going to have any 3) even if I had one by freak accident, I really doubt I'd give a shit, by then, what they read just so long as they stayed away from me;)

pjalne, I agree with what you said 100%! I'm so nervous about seeing number 3 based solely on the Dementors. The make the ring wraiths look like Pokemon. :chatter
I thought that what Voldemort did to Harry at the end of book 4, was way scarier than the death.

[pjalne]

Yeah, Voldemort did go the extra mile there. My point was that this kind of death scene isn't normally found in children's books. If people die, it's usually not in vain, which it pretty much was here. Stuff like this, combined with how the borders beween right and wrong sometimes blur, is what makes the Potter books pretty unique. There's a Roald Dahlian grotesqeness present, only not as playful.

[Daphne]

I can't wait to hear your take on the new book :)

I dont' want to give anything away, though.

[pjalne]

Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to buy it. I wanted to wait until they all were out and then buy the complete set, but there's no way in hell I'm going to put myself on a waiting list at the library. The last time one came out, my friend's brother had to wait for four months before his turn came around :(

[FS]

This thread is getting me interested in Harry Potter.

[pjalne]

It should. You'll probably read the first two and think 'Meh, well, probably good for kids', and then things really grow legs to run on.

[Daphne]

yeah, I know so many people who say "I read the first 2 and wasn't impressed" but it's when you finish the 3rd that you see how great the first two are, imo.

pjalne, I got this book for about $28 CND, you should try amazon.ca to find it cheap ;)

[pjalne]

Hey, that IS cheap. It's not Americanized like the first one or anything, is it? Sorcerer's Stone my ass >:

EDIT: Nevermind, found it at 9 GB£ over at amazon.co.uk

[Daphne]

No, thank god!
Have you ever read the US versions?? They're terrible! They change the slang, and have pictures and shit.


Canadian's understand big words and Brit slang, so ours are untouched ;)

[pjalne]

They changed the fucking slang!? They still say 'brilliant' don't they? And pictures all but ruin books based on imagination >:

[AChimp]

Yeah, amazon.ca is uber-cheap. I never go to the bookstore anymore, and there's no way that I'd pay $43 for the Harry Potter book, no matter how good it was. :(

[Esuohlim]

The pictures are tiny little fucking things at the top of each chapter. They don't even look like anything.

[pjalne]

Well, ordered it. I threw in a couple of Bone books while I was at it. The collection is soon complete :rave

[Daphne]

They changed the fucking slang!? They still say 'brilliant' don't they? And pictures all but ruin books based on imagination >:

It's hard to explain, like when Hermione is describing Moaning Myrtle, and she says "it's hard to use the washroom when she's in there" (or something) they changed it to "it's hard to go pee".

Maybe I'm petty, but to me they suck the charm out of it. :/

[pjalne]

'It's hard to go pee'? That's not only a piss-poor translation (no pun intended), it's a break of character as well.

[Esuohlim]

:lol

[Generator86]

I nabbed it Saturday afternoon and finished it about two in the afternoon today. This was easily the most disturbing one yet.


*****NOT EXACTLY A SPOILER BUT STILL*****

The way Azkaban was described was disturbing as hell, what with the vomiting of blood and falling-out eyeballs. My first thought was, "Jesus! Kids'll be having nightmares for days"
And I'm all for that.

[Esuohlim]

I can imagine what she was thinking when she wrote it.

"Well, I finally grabbed the attention of nearly all of the world's kids, and the parents' protesting the "Satanism" of my books has died down tremendously. Now that the world finally knows the magical universe and whimsical children's fantasy of Harry Potter, I'm going to write the scariest, most fucked up shit to come across my brain and scare those little brats once and for all."

:/

[Generator86]

Well, if that's what she was thinking, I'd have to say that she was spot-on in her approach.

[AChimp]

'It's hard to go pee'
That would make me think Hermione had a bladder infection or something.

[pjalne]

Actually, it sounds a whole lot like a quote from a Hentai game.

[FS]

Now that Rowling has lulled the parents of the world into a sense of sleep, she can finally follow through on her true scheme: convincing all her reading children to make blood sacrifices in the name of Lucifer.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Someone told me to read the first book once, and I didn't like it, even though I only read half. I don't want to read the other ones either, because I want to believe that I am right about how I don't like them.

I can't even go to the bookstores or the malls anymore to look or get books for a while now, the Harry Potter kids took it over. :/

[Daphne]

yeah, I know so many people who say "I read the first 2 and wasn't impressed" but it's when you finish the 3rd that you see how great the first two are, imo.

I'm impressed, Cap'n. I didn't know you could read.

Half the book, Jesus.

[kellychaos]

The way Azkaban was described was disturbing as hell, what with the vomiting of blood and falling-out eyeballs. My first thought was, "Jesus! Kids'll be having nightmares for days

Yeah, but not as disturbing as:

YELLOW MATTER CUSTARD DRIPPING FROM A DEAD DOG'S EYE.
CRABALOCKER FISHWIFE, PORNOGRAPHIC PRIESTESS,
BOY, YOU BEEN A NAUGHTY GIRL, YOU LET YOUR KNICKERS DOWN.

[Immortal Goat]

I am happy to say that I am now over half way through this book and I can safely say that it is my favorite one of the bunch. It is a LOT darker than the first four, and the story takes some very interesting turns. I will not give any spoilers, though. I do NOT like spoilers.

And, NUMBers, you really need to be less abbraisive towards people on matters like this. So what if litle kids dress like Potter? If these books are getting kids to read, then I think it shouldn't matter. My brother refuses to read practically ANYTHING, and I feel sorry for this country if it is going to be headed by a bunch of illiterates in the next 20-30 years.

[kellychaos]

. So what if litle kids dress like Potter? If these books are getting kids to read, then I think it shouldn't matter. My brother refuses to read practically ANYTHING, and I feel sorry for this country if it is going to be headed by a bunch of illiterates in the next 20-30 years.

That's exactly the same point I tried to make in defense of giving that subscription of Penthouse to my nephew. It didn't work then and that dog won't hunt here now, mister. >:

Daphne,

Do publisher's have the right to change her material without her consent? Do you think that maybe she gave some revision rights over under the publishing contract? How does kind of thing happen? Maybe it's overstating the point a bit but, to me, this isn't any different that modifying a painting or a piece of music.

[kellychaos]

My statement was a joke. I'm sorry that went over your head. I'll be sure to simplify it just for you next time. Now hurry back to your 4th-grade-reading-level-book...and don't forget your cape...

There's a lot of children's books that are, in some ways, simple enough to be enjoyed by children yet multi-layered with a subtle complexity that can be enoyed and even discussed by adults. The Narnia series by C.S. Lewis is a good example ... the Dr. Seuss children's books provide numerous examples. Do yourself a favor and read something before you comment on it. And if the topic and/or genre doesn't interest you: Shut. the. fuck. up. That is all.

[Daphne]

Daphne,

Do publisher's have the right to change her material without her consent? Do you think that maybe she gave some revision rights over under the publishing contract? How does kind of thing happen? Maybe it's overstating the point a bit but, to me, this isn't any different that modifying a painting or a piece of music.

Um, I don't really get what you're trying to say. Are you saying you think it's alright for people to edit music and paintings?

As for whether or not they are allowed to do it, I have no idea. I assume so, but I'm not a publisher.

[kellychaos]

Um, I don't really get what you're trying to say. Are you saying you think it's alright for people to edit music and paintings?


Exactly the opposite, actually. As an analogy, I would consider editing good literature the same as defacing a painting.


As for whether or not they are allowed to do it, I have no idea. I assume so, but I'm not a publisher.

I was just wondering how many rights they give up when they sign contracts and if it varies from author to author based on fame, prestige, good lawyers, ect. I don't know either. :/

[Immortal Goat]

Just to keep you guys posted on my progress, I finished the book not twenty minutes before I posted this. It is easily the best, darkest, and most involving story so far.

*SPOILERS*


There is a main character who dies, but it is not Dumbledore, who it was rumored to be. I can say no more on the subject, they are coming for me, I must flee...

[Esuohlim]

Why must you even post the spoilers, faggot? Edit it RIGHT NOW! >:

[AChimp]

HERMIONE DIES AND THEN HARRY HAS ANAL SEX WITH HER CORPSE! :eek

[kellychaos]

So it's one dem gooshy love stories?! >:

[AChimp]

It's gooshy alright, but in a leaking body fluids way.

[Esuohlim]

I'LL BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN >:

[Immortal Goat]

It's Ron, actually, that has necrophiliac anal sex with Hermione's corpse. Harry had the video camera.

[Esuohlim]

I MIGHT AS WELL THROW THE BOOK IN THE TRASH NOW. >:

[Cap'n Crunch]

yeah, I know so many people who say "I read the first 2 and wasn't impressed" but it's when you finish the 3rd that you see how great the first two are, imo.

I'm impressed, Cap'n. I didn't know you could read.

Half the book, Jesus.

Sorry, I am not interested in that kind of book. People have their own tastes, and Harry Potter is not my cup of tea. :)

I don't feel like reading 1,000 + pages just to see how the first two were.

[AChimp]

Pussy.

The stuff is written at an elementary school level. You should be able to plow through them in a day. >:

[Cap'n Crunch]

I guess I try them out again. I am not a usual reader anyway. I only read when I have to.

[Immortal Goat]

That is what is wrong with a lot of people today. If you don't have TIME to read, then that is understandable, but those that say that reading is BORING are just plain dumb.

[Esuohlim]

I don't feel like reading 1,000 + pages just to see how the first two were.

I hate it when people make reading sound like a fucking chore. They may as well have never been taught how to read so it doesn't complicate their life any more than it does now. >:

[executioneer]

I don't feel like reading 1,000 + pages just to see how the first two were.

Good thing we're not talking about Dune then :eek

PS I really, REALLY hate 'Americanized' versions of books >: Fucking fagets >:

-willie

[Daphne]

Sorry, I am not interested in that kind of book. People have their own tastes, and Harry Potter is not my cup of tea. :)

I don't feel like reading 1,000 + pages just to see how the first two were.
1) how do you know that if you only read half the book (a book that is only 223 pages, I might add) ?
2) where are you getting 1000+ pages? The second book is only 251 pages. The last one is the longest and it's only 776 (the UK/Canadian version, anyhow). That's just beyond lazy to me. I loved the Stand, which is about 1000 pages, and when I read the unabridged LONGER version, I was delighted that there was more too it.

Why don't you stick to magazines or something?

[AChimp]

Big books give me big boners. >:

[Esuohlim]

I like this book. :(

There was a part that's like "'SHUT UP' Ron ejaculated" and I'm like ":("

[Miss Modular]

I'm a Johnny Come Lately to the whole series. I was resistant because of the hype, but my curiousity recently got the best of me. I'm in the midst of reading the first book right now. I hope to have them all read by the time the next one comes out. :(

[crash0814]

Wow. Fantastic. I read over the course of three days and it was mighty impressive. Is it just me, or does this sort of remind you of Matrix Reloaded? It's just me? That's what I thought.

[pjalne]

Half finished, loving it so far.

[executioneer]

I don't think anyone dies in this book :eek

-willie

[crash0814]

I don't think anyone dies in this book :eek

-willie

Well then you're wrong.

[pjalne]

Wow. Fantastic. I read over the course of three days and it was mighty impressive. Is it just me, or does this sort of remind you of Matrix Reloaded? It's just me? That's what I thought.

I had no idea what you were talking about when I first read your post and assumed the whole 'hidden world' concept was enough reason for you to compare the two, but when I got to the part (no real spoiler) with the clothes store I saw your point.

[crash0814]

It's not really anything in particular, just kind of the air of mystery, the theme of choice, etc.

[executioneer]

Well then you're wrong.

SPOILIES

Says you >: Suuure, falling thru a mystery arch means he's DEAD, I believe that :rolleyes

-willie

[crash0814]

*POSSIBLE SPOILER IF YOU CAN'T TAKE HEARING MINOR DETAILS OF A BOOK, YOU FUCKING PRICK*

Well, there was that thing Luna says at the end...(enter spooky noises)