On July 3rd, my birthday, it will be official [Archive]

ItalianStereotype

Jun 30th, 2003, 11:37 PM

many of you may remember vince being told to join the military himself if he was so damn anxious to send off our troops, hell, most of you probably said it to him yourself. well, I am actually man enough to back up my fucking words, so as of my birthday I will be a member of the Army Reserves. After I finish school, I will give Uncle Sam my 4 to 8.

vince, you pussy.

kahljorn

Jun 30th, 2003, 11:39 PM

I would laugh at you but I would feel bad, so I'll just laugh on the inside. I'm going to get an ulcer :(

ItalianStereotype

Jun 30th, 2003, 11:41 PM

hey, that's great. now, if we could just get someone whose opinion matters...

kahljorn

Jun 30th, 2003, 11:44 PM

LIKE YOUR GENERAL. He matters. I think the military is for saps. I'd never join, but I'm skinny and scrawny and can barely lift ten pounds.
You're going to get shot in 473 days on the sixth hour, 39th minute. A day with a quarter moon.

Protoclown

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:10 AM

You have my utmost respect, ItalianStereotype. It's because the military is NOT for me and I know I wouldn't be able to stand it that I have such a high regard for those who do join voluntarily. I applaud you for signing up, and may God watch over you.

Miss Modular

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:19 AM

Rongi

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:24 AM

I wish you the best of luck man. I could never join the army either. I don't think I'm allowed to either, I have flat feet :o

punkgrrrlie10

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:31 AM

Thank you for volunteering to protect our country and all that it stands for. I salute and respect you. Be safe.

Might I add, what perfect timing for you to join. So Patriotic.

AChimp

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:38 AM

Watch your cornhole. ;)

GAsux

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:43 AM

Come on now,
You had to have known this wouldn't bring heaps of praise from this place right? I mean, I'm sure you anticipated the kind of response you'd get right?

P.S., Lee Greenwood rocks! :)

Helm

Jul 1st, 2003, 01:52 AM

This will give you a whole new perspective on things, I'm sure.

Zero Signal

Jul 1st, 2003, 01:57 AM

Boot camp was something that I do not think I would go through again, but it was certainly an interesting experience nonetheless. A real kick in the ass. I still do not remember much of the first 3 days of it. Maybe 4 hours of sleep for those 3 days. I remember getting there, head shaving and then it is a blur until we were in our permanent barracks. Kind of scary in a way.

The last 2 weeks though, they really let up on you, especially the last week. We could sleep until 5:30am (went to bed at 9pm), go to the recruit lounge building and get pizza and play pool and arcade games; all in all a lot of earned freedom the last few days. We even ordered out on the last two or three days.

Boot camp is a lasting memory for me. It was certainly tough, both mentally (mindfucks galore) and physically (PE was hell, but I was able to run a mile and a half in 8 minutes by the end), but in a way, it was cool, and very rewarding.

Recruiters ARE almost complete liars when discussing it with prospects. Do not be fooled. ;)

ItalianStereotype

Jul 1st, 2003, 02:50 AM

but he said he LOVES me...is that a lie too? :tear

ziggytrix

Jul 1st, 2003, 05:15 AM

Do good, IS. :)

Helm

Jul 1st, 2003, 06:37 AM

Do what God tells you.

VinceZeb

Jul 1st, 2003, 08:45 AM

You want a cookie, IS? All you did this for is to go "Oh man, vince, I showed you!"

When/if I join, I wouldn't make a big event out of it. That is when you know you are serving for the RIGHT reasons.

Besides, July 3rd is the 3 month anniversy of my site. Much more important date, in my opinion.

Dole

Jul 1st, 2003, 10:19 AM

Respect is understandable for Doctors, Nurses, Teachers and the like...but the military?? Why the fuck would someone admire someone for joining the military, especially in this day and age???

VinceZeb

Jul 1st, 2003, 10:35 AM

Hmmmmm... I don't know, because if not for the guys in the military the doctors, nurses and teachers would have no one to secure their freedoms? Besides, being a doctor is a passe thing as is. Everyone has a doctorate nowadays.

Vibecrewangel

Jul 1st, 2003, 10:43 AM

First, Happy early b-day! I'll be sure to wish you another on the 3rd.

Second.....I know I've said it before, but you impress me more and more the longer I get to "know" you.

Thank you.

Dole

Jul 1st, 2003, 10:48 AM

So the war in Iraq and the ongoing deaths of US and UK servicemen and women on a daily basis in Iraq is to secure your freedom is it? To save us from all the magic invisible weapons?

Sethomas

Jul 1st, 2003, 11:10 AM

Everyone has a doctorate nowadays.

You don't. Is that just because you wasted so much time in the seminary? :lol

El Blanco

Jul 1st, 2003, 11:19 AM

Vince, shut up.

Dole, shut up.

IS, good luck, you greasy wop.

Dole

Jul 1st, 2003, 11:24 AM

Wazzock.

Helm

Jul 1st, 2003, 11:28 AM

Dole is right. And he should shut up why, exactly? So that we don't get IS down and he happily goes off to serve 'the american way' all the way to Iran in his big pink bubble of denial?

Immortal Goat

Jul 1st, 2003, 11:28 AM

I'm glad you're owning up to your words. I hope Vince will eat his.

That would be sick, I mean, people just shouldn't eat shit.

And ItalianStereotype good luck. :)

kellychaos

Jul 1st, 2003, 11:41 AM

Watch your cornhole. ;)

My cornhole is both intact and, I daresay, virginal! >:

Congrats and good luck Italian.

... and Yes, Vinth. He DID show you. :)

ItalianStereotype

Jul 1st, 2003, 11:56 AM

Dole is right. And he should shut up why, exactly? So that we don't get IS down and he happily goes off to serve 'the american way' all the way to Iran in his big pink bubble of denial?

I'm really doing this for two reasons: one is that I need money for college and I really don't want to pay student loans the rest of my life and the the other is that I don't feel right about supporting something that will kill our troops without taking some of the risk myself.

oh, and the fact that vince is a douche.

Zhukov

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:35 PM

I'm really doing this for two reasons: one is that I need money for college...

This is the militarys ace up their sleeve. :tear

El Blanco

Jul 1st, 2003, 12:39 PM

Damn them for providing people who aren't rich with a shot at a college degree. It is just so evil. They should just give the money away, not expect anything in return.

GAsux

Jul 1st, 2003, 02:00 PM

Everyone in the military will die. They are also all homosexuals. And they get yelled at constantly and told what to do all day long. They are also not very educated, and were no doubt duped by their recruiter into joining because no one actually WANTS to be in the military. They just get tricked into it by clever recruiters and government agents who use manipulative tricks like financial incentives to lure them into certain death.

It's completely true. Ask anyone who's never been in the military. They'll tell you.

AChimp

Jul 1st, 2003, 02:04 PM

Don't be silly. No one in the army every dies unless you are part of Misfit Squad America.

Oh wait, they already died in Iraq.

Zosimus

Jul 1st, 2003, 02:26 PM

Happy Birthday tomorrow Italian! and Good Luck with your choice! We all have different opinions about the good or bad of the military (especially these days) but I do hope that you will be safe.

Hmmmmm... I don't know, because if not for the guys in the military the doctors, nurses and teachers would have no one to secure their freedoms? Besides, being a doctor is a passe thing as is. Everyone has a doctorate nowadays.

Really vince?! "Everyone has a doctorate these days" huh?! All I see when I look your way is an invisible submarine letter! Why not shut up like a good little boy, eat your cookie and in general, Fuck Off?

AChimp

Jul 1st, 2003, 02:28 PM

Vinth is just upset that he's too stupid to get a doctorate, so he tries to justify his situation in life as a conscious choice to not get one, since it is "passe" and "everyone has one anyway."

Zosimus

Jul 1st, 2003, 02:52 PM

Vince has a "condition" (for which I still haven't heard the name for) but with the PH.D that I hold in my hand I have diagnosed him with a condition called: "way-too-much-shit-comin-out-ma-fat-mouth" disease.

El Blanco

Jul 1st, 2003, 03:31 PM

Dole is right. And he should shut up why, exactly? So that we don't get IS down and he happily goes off to serve 'the american way' all the way to Iran in his big pink bubble of denial?

For the same reason I told Vince to shut up (which you seem to have no problem with). They, and you, made stupid comments and tried to derail the thread

The thread is about IS going into service of his country. Vince tried to make it about himself. You two want to make it about your half-assed little "we american imperialism" highschool crap.

We have plenty of threads beating the MidEast issue to death and plenty of threads dedicated to people's opinions on Vince. This one should have been about people giving their well-wishes to IS.

But, I guess your little neo-hippy agenda should be more important than a member joining something greater than himself for a common good.

BAH, went on a tangent. Again, good luck and God speed, IS.

GAsux

Jul 1st, 2003, 07:56 PM

I think it's funny how stigmatized people in the military are. I guess its our nature as a society to judge, but I think it's funny to see people's reaction to the military in general and the kind of people who wish to be a part of it.

You wouldn't knock a person who said they signed up to fry burgers at BK, but here you are giving someone shit about a lifestyle that a vast majority of you know virtually nothing about, sans what you've seen on tv and heard from friends.

Ironically, it stems from a lot of the very same people who like to portray themselves as the open minded humanists. It's a shame really, that people can't see past their own prejudices.

VinceZeb

Jul 1st, 2003, 08:30 PM

Blanco, I said what I wanted to say. IF you don't like it, don't read the post.

IS, you get no congrats from me for joining the reserves. If you got rid of your little "wow, I'm hating on Vince" rants, I'd respect you. Now, I could care less if you fail or achieve greatness.

Anyone else that just gives shit to the military: Go fuck off. Without people that were willing to die for our freedoms, this conversation wouldn't take place and you most surely would be dead or a sheep to whatever dictator or religious zealot decided to take over because you don't have one ounce of commitment to a greater good that is realistic in your entire fucking body.

AChimp

Jul 1st, 2003, 08:46 PM

Wars not make one great.

The One and Only...

Jul 1st, 2003, 08:47 PM

Everyone in the military will die.

Everyone dies anyway.

Good luck, IS. I have a feeling that military life sucks...

The_Rorschach

Jul 1st, 2003, 09:02 PM

I couldn't be more proud of you Italian.

I'm sure you've heard the phrase "to whom much is given much is required," and, unlike many, you understood exactly what that means. Those of us fortunate enough to have been born in America have become used to the idea of civil liberties and rights, but all too often fail to appreciate the cost which those ideals required previous to their conception. Well intentioned men, loyal to abstract ideals concerning human dignity and value, sacrificed their lives for the chance that this republic might be birthed. It has since been preserved by the blood of their children, and now you too have decided there is something about our way of life which is more valuable than yourself, and stand ready to guard against future threats.

There isn't much advice I can offer, the Navy and the Army have greater differences than just their uniforms, but I can say this: The secret to leadership is initiative. Never wait to be told anything you know needs done, and never issue an order for others to do something you would not. It was taking the initiative and exploiting oppourtunity that made men such as MacArthur and Pershing the heroes they were. You'll be ribbed, accused of brown nosing and worse early on, but don't be dismayed. Depending upon your rate, you will the Military operates in suprisingly small circles, and you will gain a reputation - Even in the Reserves. Also, always speak with your men, never at them; If you grow too familiar, your authority will be undermined, but if you condescend towards them, your authority will be resented. It's a tight line to walk, but I have no doubts you'll be fit for the task. While in boot, they will have petite positions of resposibility, everything from writing watchbills to maintaining squads will be in the hands of the recruits, so don't view authority as something yet too distant to consider.

Good luck.

ItalianStereotype

Jul 1st, 2003, 10:00 PM

IS, you get no congrats from me for joining the reserves. If you got rid of your little "wow, I'm hating on Vince" rants, I'd respect you. Now, I could care less if you fail or achieve greatness.

here's the thing though, I would imagine that your respect would be roughly equivalent to an acid-based enema delivered through the broad end of a funnel by a hairy Polock named Hralgo. in other words, highly undesirable.

thanks for the kind words and support everyone and thank you for the advice, Ror. I imagine that things will be fairly easy for me until I finish school and have to go full service. Dole and Helm, despite what you may feel about the war in Iraq and the ongoing war on terror, the military and its servicemen deserve nothing less than the utmost respect. hating the military and the people who risk themselves in action is simply despicable. you are allowed your opinion, but try to direct your distaste where it is due.

GAsux

Jul 1st, 2003, 10:03 PM

Do you have an MOS yet? You go through boot camp, then MOS training right? I am a little unclear. You are a Reservist but you'll go active duty? Or you'll just be active Reserve?

Where are you from again?

Preechr

Jul 1st, 2003, 10:21 PM

Check Snopes! Check Snopes!

I think he's from TEXAS, but then again I'm new...

Good Luck, IS. I guess you don't have to know the people you're signing up to potentially protect, or to hear that they appreciate it. My votes will always protect those that serve, and I feel good to know several people that would count their service as the best decision they ever made. I hope that happens for you.

Dole

Jul 2nd, 2003, 03:25 AM

Anyone who wants to join the military- fine, its your life and you are of course entiltled to do whatever you want with it. I don't wish death or anything horrible upon them, but I still dont 'respect' people for joining the military.

And the person (who I cant remember) who equated being in the services with working at BK...there are a few fundamental differences, mainly involving guns and bombs...

I dont give a flying fuck about being dismissed as a 'neo-hippy' or liberal or whatever, to me it just seems perfectly logical to not be tearfully proud and happy about the army and everything they stand for in today's world.

But then I can see why that kind of opinion wouldnt go down well on the politics board, or 'Nazi Central' as it is also known :)

VinceZeb

Jul 2nd, 2003, 07:19 AM

Then, Dole, you are a moron. Without a military, you would be serving under opression.

Dole

Jul 2nd, 2003, 08:53 AM

Yes. I thank my lucky stars that every day the UK military is staving off the imminent take over of my country by Nazis/communists/teletubbies.

VinceZeb

Jul 2nd, 2003, 09:39 AM

Dole, if it wasnt for the UK army, you would be speaking German right now.

AChimp

Jul 2nd, 2003, 09:50 AM

No, probably not. Hitler personally thought British civilization was really awesome and tried to form an alliance before the war, and it was only after the British told him where to go that he decided to invade them instead.

kellychaos

Jul 2nd, 2003, 10:28 AM

mburbank

Jul 2nd, 2003, 10:48 AM

I respect people for having the courage of their convictions.

I sincerely hope you don't get killed or hurt, and I just as sincerely hope you don't have to kill or hurt anyone. The Vets I know through the VA have found they are just as damaged by things they had to do as by things that were done to them.

Vince. "When/if" you sign up? Does this mean your unequivical, simple as that statements that you couldn't serve were lies? How shocking.

Your statement that Eye Ties enlistment was motivated by a desire to 'shhow you' anything only serves to reinforce the already solid evidence that you have the emotional developement of a slow toddler.

VinceZeb

Jul 2nd, 2003, 10:51 AM

Yes, when/if. If i would have said when, then I would have been a liar. I just may try again and hope that I can pass a physical. Then your wife will know what it is like to bed a military man.

GAsux

Jul 2nd, 2003, 11:07 AM

But then I can see why that kind of opinion wouldnt go down well on the politics board, or 'Nazi Central' as it is also known

Ha ha yeah. That's such an accurate reflection of this board. Becuase you know, since it's a politics board, it must be filled with carzy, overly conservative types. All two of them.

Dole

Jul 2nd, 2003, 11:09 AM

Yes, only two right wing, pro life, ultra patriotic, republican people here :lol

mburbank

Jul 2nd, 2003, 11:42 AM

Now Vinth now first of all I thought you had made a choice to be gay now and my wife is a woman.

Now also B it is my wifes policy not to 'bed' guys who can't tell singular and plural apart.

Protoclown

Jul 2nd, 2003, 12:41 PM

I have respect for IS for actually putting his money where his mouth is. I have a lot of friends who are in the military, and I respect them all for having the guts to sign up. It's something I know I could never do, and if people like them didn't do it, then I suppose it would have been conceivable that I might have been drafted at some point, assuming the need had presented itself.

I don't LIKE the military one bit. Or rather, I don't like what the military does. I despise the idea of killing, and I think that in recent times the military has been horribly misused (i.e. the situation in Iraq). But I recognize the military as a tool of the government, and one that is sadly necessary as a preventative measure more than anything (I think ours goes above and beyond that necessary level though). I don't condone killing in any way, shape, or form, and were I to be drafted into the military I would request a position where I would not have to kill. I don't think I could ever kill anyone unless I was directly protecting the lives of myself and/or others in an immediate situation of self-defense. I hope to God that my friends in the marines and navy have never had to kill anyone, and I pray that they do not get killed.