Cruelty or Innovation?

[Dirge]

http://www.local6.com/news/2323433/detail.html

Police: Anglers Baiting Hooks With Kittens

POSTED: 10:44 a.m. EDT July 10, 2003
UPDATED: 10:50 a.m. EDT July 10, 2003

Police in Italy said anglers are using live kittens as bait while fishing for sheat fish, according to a report.

Giuseppe Lagana, who is a police officer in Mantua, told the European Independent Digital news organization that the first such incident authorities are aware of occurred in May and that police believe there were others as well.

Apparently, the anglers are using the kittens to catch a giant catfish called a sheat fish, which can weigh as much as 660 pounds.


"We've received a lot of indications that there are other such cases," he told The Independent. "During one of our last nocturnal patrols, one boat managed to evade our checks. It ignored warnings and cleared off with its lights extinguished. We suspect that this was also one of these fishermen without a conscience. Using live kittens to catch sheat fish is an unheard of cruelty."

The sheatfish is not a native species of Italian waterways and has taken over as the river's largest predator, KNSD-TV reported. Having consumed all of the area's eels and carp, the sheatfish has been observed gobbling up ducks and rats, according to the report.

[executioneer]

lol, they're using kittens to bait catfish :(

-willie

[Jeanette X]

Whoa, it eats ducks and rats? Wow.
I think that the people who would do that to a kitten should be stabbed and trolled as shark bait.

[El Blanco]

Yes, because its ok to do it to worms and bugs since they neither look cute or cry for help.

660 lbs?!?! I wonder how attached my girlfriend is to Spunky?

[Jeanette X]

Yes, because its ok to do it to worms and bugs since they neither look cute or cry for help.

Dumbass. What makes you think I'm so crazy about the idea of using live worms and bugs?

[The One and Only...]

Innovation. Cats are animals just like any other. If I was given the chance, I would probably eat them.

[Jeanette X]

But the use of live kittens is both cruel and unneccesary. Not only because the kitten is still very capable of feeling pain, but also because more humane alternatives for bait exist.

[Bennett]

I would use an unwanted 1st trimester fetus.

[The One and Only...]

But the use of live kittens is both cruel and unneccesary. Not only because the kitten is still very capable of feeling pain, but also because more humane alternatives for bait exist.

Then kill the cat. It'd drown anyway.

[El Blanco]

Yes, because its ok to do it to worms and bugs since they neither look cute or cry for help.

Dumbass. What makes you think I'm so crazy about the idea of using live worms and bugs?

Cuz you only cried for the poor kitty cats. I have not seen a post from you about bugs at all.

House cats are useless creatures anyway.

[Bennett]

use the fetus:
it's not cute.
it'll be dead by the time it gets to the hook.
it won't feel pain if it's still alive (or it won't realize it anyway).
mommy and daddy don't want it.

everyone is happy
:bacos

[Jeanette X]

Cuz you only cried for the poor kitty cats. I have not seen a post from you about bugs at all.

House cats are useless creatures anyway.
Numbnuts. I have made past posts about bugs. This thread's subject was about live kittens being used. I didn't post about bugs until it became relevant. And for your information, when I am finished with the mustelids thread I have going under general blabber, I am going to start a thread about earthworms, or oligochaetes as they are more properly known.

[El Blanco]

How to properly prepare them?

And I imagine the kittens have to be live so they trash around and attract the fish.

[Jeanette X]

How to properly prepare them?


No you dumb shit. One of my Wild World Of Nature posts.
http://www.composters.com/gr/earthworm.gif
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/4076/index40s/earthworm.jpg

[crash0814]

Haha. Live cats. What a great species humanity is, eh?

[kellychaos]

Not that the kittens aren't important but what about the larger problem of a species fish that is foreign to the area and which is destroying the local ecosystem?

[Jeanette X]

Not that the kittens aren't important but what about the larger problem of a species fish that is foreign to the area and which is destroying the local ecosystem?
That is a very legit concern that I overlooked in my annoyance with El Blanco. :/ The problem of non-native species is a serious one and I would encourage people to catch as many as possible...maybe even offering bounty for the sheat fish. When they offered bounties for wolves in the United States, the wolves were almost became extinct. Never underestimate the efficiancy of human greed.

[kellychaos]

Zebra mussels damaged a large portion of the fish population of the Great Lakes. I could see the difference even within my lifetime. Thankfully, they've found ways to control the zebra mussle population and some of the fish population is on a gradual upswing. The alarming part is how quickly the mussel fish impacted the area. :eek

[Jeanette X]

The European mink is having similiar problems. Some asshole who wanted to get rich imported American mink to keep on fur farms. Well, the minks escaped, and now they are competing with the European mink which is now critically endangered because of it. Makes me fucking mad, it does. >:
http://www.zoo.poznan.pl/index/norka.jpg
The European mink says: "Fur farmers are assholes!"
This article outlines the damage the American mink has done to other wildlife: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/11/1105_wireminks.html

[Zhukov]

In Tasmania we have a problem with the fox. It is a really big problem because the natural defences of most of our native animals require that they sit still and shiver.

It is such a big problem that the govt set up an anti-fox taskforce early this year.

Yes, a taskforce

The taskforce employs a multitude of people and demands a hefty budget to pay for their 4 wheel drives, traps, guns and wages.

So far the taskforce has caught a whopping 2 whole foxes. And they were bragging about it on the news!

Keep up the good work fellas!

[Jeanette X]

I swear, they have to put out a bounty for extermination attempts to work. Put out bounties on non-native animal species, and they will be expatriated in under a decade. And it probably be cheaper in the long run than a task-force.

[Zhukov]

They tried that, but berks started breading them to keep a constant flow of reward comming in.

Never underestimate the efficiancy of human greed!

:)

[El Blanco]

They tried that, but berks started breading them to keep a constant flow of reward comming in.

Never underestimate the efficiancy of human greed!

:)

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

The European mink is having similiar problems. Some asshole who wanted to get rich imported American mink to keep on fur farms. Well, the minks escaped, and now they are competing with the European mink which is now critically endangered because of it.

Guess the Socialist mink can't handle the idea of a competitive market.

[Jeanette X]

They tried that, but berks started breading them to keep a constant flow of reward comming in.

Never underestimate the efficiancy of human greed!

:)
Seriously? Fuck! :(