Favorite Punk Band

[crash0814]

Husker Du!

[The One and Only...]

Shikari.

[Royal Tenenbaum]

the clash.

[Protoclown]

Only possible answer. The Clash.

[Les Waste]

It's obviously the Clash, but I don't really think of them as a punk band. I think only the UK version of their first album was really a punk album. Their second album was only kinda a punk album. Their last album was more a disco album than anything.

[The Retro Kat]

Punk sucks?


The Ramones.


Punk sucks.

[crash0814]

That's what I've been telling people. The only Clash album that was really punk is their eponymous debut. "London Calling" is a great album, definitely, but it doesn't sound like punk to me. But hey! What do I know? I think alternative is better than metal.

[Drew Katsikas]

The Bad Brains! Or perhaps Wire.

[crash0814]

I love Wire.

[Drew Katsikas]

Crash, you have soulseek or AIM, or anything in which we may chat through?


P.S. Yes, I am aware that there is private messaging for those of you who I am pissing off, but I think it's near impossible to get someone to reply.

[crash0814]

Nah, I don't have any instant messenger services because I'm not a big fan of totally inane conversations.

"Hey."

"Hey."

"Sup."

"Nothing."

"Cool."

But hey! We can talk on here. What's your favorite Wire song?

[Drew Katsikas]

I enjoy ex-lion tamer, but I've only heard a bit off Chairs Missing and I have heard all of Pink Flag.

[Rongi]

I would say The Clash, but I really don't consider them punk.

So I'll say Big Black instead

[kahljorn]

Oooh yea, wire is the ex-lion tamer guy. That shit's hilarious :( I use soulseek, but I deleted it so the RIAA wouldn't bust me. :rolleyes

[Drew Katsikas]

Two questions.


1. Why is Ex-Lion Tamer hilarious?

2. I heard about RIAA busting random people. IS that true?

[Rongi]

Yeah, and if the RIAA catches you, you have to pay a 1500 dollar fine for every song you have downloaded :(

[Drew Katsikas]

I just moved all my songs to another folder, even if this is bull.

[Rongi]

Unfortunatly, it's not bull :(

[executioneer]

it is too >:

-willie

[Rongi]

PROVE IT :rolleyes

[executioneer]

YOU prove it isn't >:

Show me a news article or something >:

-willie

[Rongi]

Music Labels Threaten to Sue Net Users
Wed Jun 25, 1:19 PM ET

By TED BRIDIS, AP Technology Writer

WASHINGTON - The embattled music industry disclosed aggressive plans Wednesday for an unprecedented escalation in its fight against Internet piracy, threatening to sue hundreds of individual computer users who illegally share music files online.



The Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites), citing substantial sales declines, said it will begin Thursday to search Internet file-sharing networks to identify users who offer "substantial" collections of mp3 music files for downloading. It expects to file at least several hundred lawsuits seeking financial damages within eight to 10 weeks.


Executives for the RIAA, the Washington-based lobbying group that represents major labels, would not say how many songs on a user's computer will qualify for a lawsuit. The new campaign comes just weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings requiring Internet providers to identify subscribers suspected of illegally sharing music and movie files.


The RIAA's president, Carey Sherman, said tens of millions of Internet users of popular file-sharing software after Thursday will expose themselves to "the real risk of having to face the music."


"It's stealing. It's both wrong and illegal," Sherman said. Alluding to the court decisions, Sherman said Internet users who believe they can hide behind an alias online were mistaken. "You are not anonymous," Sherman said. "We're going to begin taking names."


Critics accused the RIAA of resorting to heavy-handed tactics likely to alienate millions of Internet file-sharers.


"This latest effort really indicates the recording industry has lost touch with reality completely," said Fred von Lohmann, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "Does anyone think more lawsuits are going to be the answer? Today they have declared war on the American consumer."


Sherman disputed that consumers, who are gradually turning to legitimate Web sites to buy music legally, will object to the industry's latest efforts against pirates.


"You have to look at exactly who are your customers," he said. "You could say the same thing about shoplifters — are you worried about alienating them? All sorts of industries and retailers have come to the conclusion that they need to be able to protect their rights. We have come to the same conclusion."


Mike Godwin of Public Knowledge, a consumer group that has challenged broad crackdowns on file-sharing networks, said Wednesday's announcement was appropriate because it targeted users illegally sharing copyrighted files.


"I'm sure it's going to freak them out," Godwin said. "The free ride is over." He added: "I wouldn't be surprised if at least some people engaged in file-trading decide to resist and try to find ways to thwart the litigation strategy."


The RIAA said its lawyers will file lawsuits initially against people with the largest collections of music files they can find online. U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer, but Sherman said the RIAA will be open to settlement proposals from defendants.


"We have no hard and fast rule on how many files you have to be distributing ... to come within our radar screen," Sherman said. "We will go after the worst offenders first."


The RIAA said it expected to file "at least several hundred lawsuits" within eight to 10 weeks but will continue to file lawsuits afterward on a regular basis.

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[crash0814]

Pink Flag is the only Wire album I've got, but I've been meaning to pick up Chairs Missing for about a year now. As for my favorite Wire song...I dunno, maybe Three Girl Rhumba. Ex-Lion Tamer is great, though.

And yes, I heard about the RIAA suing people also. Isn't that a load of shit?

[executioneer]

that's not enough proof for me >: when they ACTUALLY sue someone, rather than just threaten, then I'll believe there's a risk to me >:

-willie

[Rongi]

You're probably right :(

[Ninjavenom]

Another thread, boys.

I'm going to say Straight Faced or Pennywise. I don't like much variation in my punk music. :/

[crash0814]

I don't get a lot of variation in my punk either. I'm a hardcore kinda guy. Black Flag, Minor Threat, etc. What I REALLY like are the bands that mix punk with other genres such as the Minutemen (jazz) or the Meat Puppets (country, psychedelia).

[Royal Tenenbaum]

The Clash may not have always been a punk band, but their debut makes them the best, even if it's just for that album. If not, then I change my vote to The Velvet Underground.

[Les Waste]

The Clash's debut album and Give 'Em Enough Rope, which I think is just barely punk, are better than almost every single other punk album.

[crash0814]

Grrr...I hate it when people connect the Velvet Underground with punk.

[Rongi]

The Clash's debut album and Give 'Em Enough Rope, which I think is just barely punk, are better than almost every single other punk album.

I couldn't agree more, but overall I find that The Clash have done better then their debut album, which is why I don't consider them punk. But I don't really need to tell you that.

And I find that all the songs on their debut album that I really really love aren't the punk ones. Like White Man and Police and Theives.

[Cap'n Crunch]

I like some songs from the Sex Pistols. :/ I also downloaded a few songs from the Dead Kennedys.

[Les Waste]

White Man and Police and Thieves were only on the US version, which came out shortly after London Calling. Some songs on the original UK version were cut off and some of the successful singles were put on the version being sold in the US, which they didn't start selling until London Calling came out. I think I Fought the Law is on the US version of the album, but that was released on an EP. I mean, nobody knows Protex Blue and that was on the original.

But that just goes to show that the stuff they made after they stopped doing punk was just that much better than the punk stuff they did. I think.

:(

[timrpgland]

The best punk band will always be the ska/punk band Operation Ivy.

[Black Flag]

Black Flag >:

[crash0814]

No way!

[Generator86]

God fucking dammit!!!!!!

The best punk band, nay, the best band of all time, is Bad Religion, followed closely by Propagandhi.

No arguments.

[Blackjack]

I like the Nobodys, so fuck you.

[whoreable]

I will say both black flag and bad religion.