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{{{K}}}
Sep 6th, 2003, 02:35 PM
http://www.meetyourmeat.com/ if ur an animal lover beware this is fucked up

O71394658
Sep 6th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Isn't that cute. :)

Alphonse
Sep 6th, 2003, 03:01 PM
I love meat. :)

Professor Cool
Sep 6th, 2003, 03:06 PM
What a treat!

What about a video that shows farmer cutting down corn stalks.

UtterParadox
Sep 6th, 2003, 03:50 PM
Wait a friggin' minute, vegans!

According to an article I skimmed through a while back, plants feel pain and can communicate it to other plants. For example, if a flower is being devoured by locusts, it can send out pheromones to other plants, warning them to engage their chemical defenses.

So there's NO form of diet that can completely avoid inflicting pain on some living thing. "Meet Your Meat" is just another form of ecoterrorism.

the_dudefather
Sep 6th, 2003, 04:53 PM
plants are no-where near as cuddily as animals, so many of them will not care.

also, when vegetables are harvested, dozens of furry animals are killed anyway in the combine harvesters (wild animals with a sense of freedom, who lead much happier lives than mcdonalds cows).

Rongi
Sep 6th, 2003, 05:07 PM
That video made me hungry for a nice slaughtered cow :yum

CastroMotorOil
Sep 6th, 2003, 05:18 PM
Im hungry, feel like a burger, really really bad.

Schimid
Sep 6th, 2003, 05:25 PM
Let's hope Jeanette doesn't see this. :chatter

soundtest
Sep 6th, 2003, 05:26 PM
plants feel pain

The pheromones is a possibility I'm sure, but I doubt that plants can actually feel 'pain'. They have no central nervous system and therefore no 'pain receptors' - since they're generally immobile they don't need them, unlike mammals (e.g negative reinforcement for stepping on something sharp... the pain teaches the mammal not to do this again... or if there is a wound pain makes the animal protect that area which prevents infection or making it worse). As evil as the world is, I doubt evolution would've given plants to feel pain just for the hell of it.

Professor Cool
Sep 6th, 2003, 05:31 PM
Hey, if somehow some greater species can viciously kill me and make me into a delishous dish, they could go right for it.

Prime Cut Caucasian served in it gravy and bell peppers. Mmmmm

Ninjavenom
Sep 6th, 2003, 06:10 PM
plants are no-where near as cuddily as animals, so many of them will not care.

also, when vegetables are harvested, dozens of furry animals are killed anyway in the combine harvesters (wild animals with a sense of freedom, who lead much happier lives than mcdonalds cows).


:blah

Who fucking cares? Are you killing them? No. Shut up.

ScruU2wice
Sep 6th, 2003, 06:20 PM
seriously, if animals were treated gently would it be more ethical to eat :confused

glowbelly
Sep 6th, 2003, 09:45 PM
no :(

The One and Only...
Sep 6th, 2003, 09:51 PM
Meat tastes best when you kill it yourself.

I love the smell of gutting my deer, and the rotting roadkill carcasses.

I love the sight of the deer falling in weakness, and the blood drip out of my rare steak.

I love the sounds of deer moaning in pain, and the bang of a gunshot.

In short, I love killing animals. Just be glad I don't enjoy killing humans.

glowbelly
Sep 6th, 2003, 09:54 PM
i'm sad that your "morals" prevent you from killing yourself. >:

the_dudefather
Sep 6th, 2003, 10:00 PM
:blah

Who fucking cares? Are you killing them? No. Shut up.

im not a vegatarian, i was just pointing out the irony of being one.

i love delicous meat. especialy mince stew with mashed potatos. (cue hannibal lecter raspy tongue noise)
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glowbelly
Sep 6th, 2003, 10:15 PM
what's so ironic about not eating meat?

Rongi
Sep 6th, 2003, 10:32 PM
Here's a quote from futurama:

"The only reason we don't eat humans is because they taste terrible"

>:

glowbelly
Sep 6th, 2003, 11:27 PM
i smell like cookies :eek

FartinMowler
Sep 7th, 2003, 09:08 AM
I was watching a show about chicken farmers and it was really disgusting. They have a dude that checks the chicks and if it's male it goes into a grinder to become a paste that they sell to the mink farmers for feeding the Minks. They also have to cut off the beak of the chicken or they will attack each other and if they gang up on one unlucky chicken they keep jabbing at the rectum and pull out it's intestines. I still eat meat but the process is very :puke

TeRRaNuSER
Sep 7th, 2003, 11:00 AM
mMmmMm.... grinder paste

Geggy
Sep 7th, 2003, 01:18 PM
Here's a quote from futurama:

"The only reason we don't eat humans is because they taste terrible"

>:

Humans taste like chicken, you ass.

Rongi
Sep 7th, 2003, 01:20 PM
That wasn't even sort of funny :|

Geggy
Sep 7th, 2003, 01:28 PM
I don't give a damn whether it's funny to you or not, they do literally taste like chicken.

Pub Lover
Sep 7th, 2003, 01:37 PM
Fuck you all with your narrow scope of what a Vegan is! >:

I hate animals more than any off you meat eaters could possibly ever do. >:

Yay! I love being drunk! :)

TeRRaNuSER
Sep 7th, 2003, 01:37 PM
that wasnt even sort of educational

soundtest
Sep 7th, 2003, 01:58 PM
I was watching a show about chicken farmers and it was really disgusting.

I had a similar experience... I watched a show on some pig slaughterhouse one night when I was very low. It was disgusting... all these pink bodies crowded together in filth... piglets getting injected with all sorts of drugs... the conditions were enough to make me sick alone and that was before the actual slaughter. I'm not sure if it was the pot, but those pigs resembled naked humans so much it weirded me out. For me the decision to become a vegelesbian had nothing to do with animal rights (life feeds on life, I didn't write the rules), it was just that the unsanitary living conditions and hormones and drugs that animals have to endure made me disgusted at the thought of consuming them. After watching that I was vegetarian for almost six years, the last 3 of which I was vegan.

6 months in China took care of that though. :meat

seriously, if animals were treated gently would it be more ethical to eat :confused

Just because the end result is death doesn't mean pain that could be avoided should be inflicted. Say your mother has a terminal illness but decides she'd like to donate a kidney - should an anaesthetic not be used because she'll be dead soon anyway?

TeRRaNuSER
Sep 7th, 2003, 02:03 PM
publover totaly ruined that SWEET JOKE.

agroskaterik
Sep 7th, 2003, 02:26 PM
I agree with soundtest.

Are you still a vegitarian and or vegan?

Im seriously thinking about it.

ScruU2wice
Sep 7th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Just because the end result is death doesn't mean pain that could be avoided should be inflicted. Say your mother has a terminal illness but decides she'd like to donate a kidney - should an anaesthetic not be used because she'll be dead soon anyway?


i seriously wasnt being sarcastic. im trying to put it together in my mind wether an that lived humanely would be more ethical to eat on my end?

TeRRaNuSER
Sep 7th, 2003, 02:33 PM
food thats treated humainly tastes better because its not just rotting in a cage eating hormones for 5 years

and vegans.. the brain dosent function without protine
wich i guess explains the love of soy ice cream

AChimp
Sep 7th, 2003, 02:47 PM
Chickens are cannibals, that's why the pointy shit on their beaks is removed (like someone said above). Cows will also gore each other occassionally if their horns aren't removed. I know this because half my relatives live on a farm. :eek

I don't really care how animals are treated. All that matters to me is how well their meat is taken care of. :meat

ScruU2wice
Sep 7th, 2003, 02:47 PM
and vegans.. the brain dosent function without protine
wich i guess explains the love of soy ice cream

how are those hindu people so smart then? :lol

soundtest
Sep 7th, 2003, 02:49 PM
Are you still a vegitarian and or vegan?6 months in China took care of that though. :meat

When I first got to China I tried to stay vegetarian, but since vegetarianism is almost unheard of there (the exception being Buddhists), I gave in completely after about 6 weeks. Now I don't go out of my way to eat meat and I never cook or handle it myself, but I'll eat it maybe once a week or less. So I guess the answer is no.

i seriously wasnt being sarcastic. im trying to put it together in my mind wether an that lived humanely would be more ethical to eat on my end?

I don't really know what you're saying here. By ethical do you mean how guilty you should feel? If I were to be eaten after my death, I know I would prefer it if I was dealt with humanely beforehand.

O71394658
Sep 7th, 2003, 03:06 PM
In all seriousness, I think the stuff that is happening to animals terrible, but the fact remains that I just simply don't trust PeTA. I know that a lot of time was put into that production, and the absolute worst areas were shown. Obviously there's a bias, so taking everything they say as absolute truth, I have trouble swallowing (NPI).

TeRRaNuSER
Sep 7th, 2003, 03:58 PM
im eating a chicken pita its delicious

glowbelly
Sep 7th, 2003, 04:16 PM
and vegans.. the brain dosent function without protine

you sure you aren't a vegan, champ?

besides, vegans get protein from alternative sources.

here's an article about vegetable vs animal protein. (http://www.afpafitness.com/articles/AnimalvsVegetable.htm)

i don't eat anymore for a variety of reasons. the main one being that the thought of consuming an animal that has been shot up with god only knows how many antibiotics and hormones makes me get all whoozy feeling. i also believe that since i can get my nutrition from other sources that there is no reason for me to consume a cow, just because it tastes good. it's just not nice.

that's what i think, anyways.

Alphonse
Sep 7th, 2003, 04:18 PM
WHEN I EAT MEAT AND I THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY DO TO THE ANIMALS I DO THIS:

http://www.pixelth.com/kriptik/smile.jpg

glowbelly
Sep 7th, 2003, 04:19 PM
you wear a suit?

Alphonse
Sep 7th, 2003, 04:21 PM
Yes. :)

pissed off salesman
Sep 7th, 2003, 04:58 PM
That movie is easily a nominee for best comedy.