Vince, I have a question for you...

[Immortal Goat]

Why is it that you refuse to accept that liberals, while not completely correct, make some valid points about things. I accept arguments from both sides of the spectrum because I do not tie myself down to a specific political party, and neither should anyone else. Do not vote or think a certain way just because others in your "party" do it, think the way you want, listen to both sides of a situation, and come to your own conclusion.

Remember, there is always three sides to every story; what one person says, what the other says, and then there is the truth.

[mburbank]

As the currennt Catholic Samurai, I will say since the old one won't, if the liberals IS ever right about a single solidarity thing, then I will be the first to say so, but so far to date they didn't.

[Immortal Goat]

At first I thought that WAS a post from ole' Vinth. Very convincing grammatical errors, there, Max!

[mburbank]

Thankth!

[VinceZeb]

Goat, that is an honest question that deserves an honest answer.

My feelings on liberals stems from numerous sources. My first source was my own parents. My dad thought Bill Clinton was innocent until the day he died. My mother, no matter how much I try and how much her core beliefs differ from liberals will continue to vote Democratic until the day she dies. It isn’t a Family Ties-type situation, but needless to say when I got out on my own, I educated myself about what is going on out there.

The media with its years of leftist drivel has helped to form my views as well. Ever since Vietnam, we have been indoctrinated with leftist sentiment and opinion in the regular news casts. Facts are twisted, distorted, or not even reported correctly for the big-wigs at the New York Times and on CBS to tell us how to vote and think. Two books I suggest reading are Slander by Ann Coulter and Bias by Bernie Goldberg. These books are a plethora of information and the Slander book has references out the wazoo. The “facts” that are reported by our news outlets are embarrassing. The NYT had Mondale ahead against Reagan only 2-3 weeks into the election back in 84. We can see how accurate that was. The whole Fox News scandal with them reporting Bush the winner in Florida at around 3-4 in the morning when other shows were reporting Gore the winner BEFORE THE POLLS IN FLORDIA CLOSED! The whole reporting on the Gore/Bush fiasco was just sickening. The reporting of the “100,000” who couldn’t vote is something I just got done arguing with someone about who happened to be black. He got his source from BET and NEVER QUESTIONED IT. He looked at me like I was crazy when I asked him if he questioned the sources.

Look at our public school systems: They train kids to believe in the god of government, and will crush any thing that has to do with Christianity. We get rid of any songs during the winter that have to do with religious seasons and we sing songs about the biggest fucking joke in existence, which happens to be Kwanzaa. We teach kids that America is this big horrible place that has done nothing right, where in most any other country if the text books were talking shit about the home country, there would be gulags and punishment all around. Black and Latino students are left behind in the education because of schools that are shitty even though we spend thousands of dollars on the students. We do not question the culture with makes blacks and Latinos afraid of acting white, i.e. studying, being respectful, and working hard. We celebrate worthless bullshit like the “black/gay/asian/latino/transgender/blahblahblah existence” instead of teaching people how to read and write and to be successful. We are training a better idiot in our government school systems.

That about sums it up for now. Liberals at best are humorously naïve and utterly dangerous to our country at worse.

[Immortal Goat]

Ok, you have summed up your political beliefs, and i think it is only fair for me to do the same.

Yes, there is a lot of bias in the media towards the left, but that does not mean that everything the left does is wrong. You can hate the extremists on either side just as much. I do not like ANY extreme, because we need a healthy dose of conservative thinking and liberal thinking if we want to be a successful society.

I like to go along with the idea of keeping what is good and working, but moving forward in society as a whole. Change is inevitable, and no matter how much people want to stay the same, there is never going to be a way to prevent progress. If history had taught me one thing, it is that trying to keep society exactly the same as it has always been leads to nothing but trouble. Hell, this country was founded by people who, in their day, caold have looked at as liberals. Take a look at it. They wanted to get away from the church and change society as a whole. If that isn't liberal, then I don't know what is. However, somewhere along the line, our society became entirely conservative (i.e. the Puritains), and just take a look at what happened to them. They were religious fundamentalists who did not like free thinking, and their society crumbled from within.

We are not machines, we cannoth stay the same forever. We must accept and embrace change if we want to survive as a nation. I love this country, and I do not want to see it destroyed by bigotry. And bigotry is really what extremists are guilty of. They hate those who think differently, and if we never look past our differences and get to a happy medium, then we will be destroyed from within, just like the puritains.

[Zhukov]

BILL CLINTON IS DEAD. LONG LIVE BILL CLINTON.


Top Tip: Black and Latino students, act white to get better marks; this way your culture wont stop you from working hard.

[mburbank]

" that is an honest question that deserves an honest answer. "
-Vinth

While I always enjoy your autobiographical work, I feel the need to repeat Goats question, which you didn't answer at all, honestly or not.



"Why is it that you refuse to accept that liberals, while not completely correct, make some valid points about things?"
-Goat

Is what you meant by your rather windy reply, that you do not believe that any Liberal has made a valid point about anything ever that you are aware of? Do you mean that your life experience has made you so reactionary that you would not accept the possability of a liberal, yet valid point? I answered the question as you better than you did. I can only assume tht in the excitement of talking about yourself, you forgot what the question was.

[sspadowsky]

I educated myself about what is going on out there.
Boortz's website doesn't count. There are other sources of information out there which may *gasp* differ from your cut n' paste opinions.

Facts are twisted, distorted, or not even reported correctly for the big-wigs at the New York Times and on CBS to tell us how to vote and think.
Thank heaven we have the fair and balanced, and never distorted, slanted, or sensationalized reporting of Fox News.

Two books I suggest reading are Slander by Ann Coulter and Bias by Bernie Goldberg. These books are a plethora of information and the Slander book has references out the wazoo.
It's a shame that wazoo-full worth of references are distorted, taken out of context, or just made up. Ann Coulter is a venomous bigot (birds of a feather, eh, Vinth?), and is nuttier than a 20-pound Christmas fruitcake. And at least one item in Goldberg's book has been proven to be taken so grossly out of context that it calls the credibility of the entire book into question (the John Chancellor quote). Did you know that Goldberg didn't even investigate that quote? Didn't even bother to find out the context of the quote?

I just got done arguing with someone about who happened to be black. He got his source from BET and NEVER QUESTIONED IT. He looked at me like I was crazy when I asked him if he questioned the sources.
If you questioned Ann Coulter and Bernie Goldberg, I guarantee you wouldn't be claiming them as your sources. Or Boortz, for that matter.

We do not question the culture with makes blacks and Latinos afraid of acting white, i.e. studying, being respectful, and working hard. We celebrate worthless bullshit like the “black/gay/asian/latino/transgender/blahblahblah existence” instead of teaching people how to read and write and to be successful.
Wow. You are one racist, bigoted motherfucker. 'Cause as we all know, blacks, latinos, and asians can't read or write or be successful unless they "act white."

[mburbank]

To act white, Study, be respectful and work hard. These are our core, white values.

But you forget. Vinth is thoroughly innouclated against all charges of racism becuase he wants to have sex with Black and Latino women. No one who is prejudiced can do this. Which is why slave oners never had sex with their slaves.

[VinceZeb]

Wow. You are one racist, bigoted motherfucker. 'Cause as we all know, blacks, latinos, and asians can't read or write or be successful unless they "act white."

I'm sorry that you are not intelligent enough to detect sarcasm. You must have been educated in our government school system.

Ask any black student about being called an "Oreo" because they wanted to study and read and do well in school. Do you think that is even right or fair? All the years that people denied blacks the ability to read and learn are happening again, but now it is the supreme leaders of "black culture" that are teaching kids that reading, writing, learning good business and being a good person are nothing abut tools used to "make you white", but being a whiny freeloader complaining about all your "problems" and "heartaches" while expecting the government to roll over for you is the way to go. Where in black culture right now is a young fatherless child being taught about good morals or about the importance to be educated? Very, VERY few places. Do any of these children know about great black commentators or leaders like Armstrong Williams, J.C. Watts, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell or Larry Elder? I doubt it. We train black/Latino children in our country to be stupid. We don’t question their “cultures” because that would be racist or wrong. We teach them to respect cultures that have screwed them royally and their culture teaches them that learning and thinking for yourself are good as long as they aren’t “white”.

Our system fucks blacks and Latinos big time. Asian students have strong support groups, as do whites. Blacks and Latinos traditionally do not. Officials that want to help out the poorest among us are called racist, and the ones who want to fuck them over so they can pull in the pork money are considered heroes.

[Zhukov]

What is "black culture"?

[mburbank]

"All the years that people denied blacks the ability to read and learn are happening again, but now it is the supreme leaders of "black culture" that are teaching kids that reading, writing, learning good business and being a good person are nothing abut tools used to "make you white", but being a whiny freeloader complaining about all your "problems" and "heartaches" while expecting the government to roll over for you is the way to go."

First of all, GREAT sentence. I guess you had some schoolin' problems of your own.

And B; you wouldn't care to give any concrete examples of whatever the hell it was you were trying to say there, would you. I mean., aside from your usual 'ask anyone' 'it's common knowledge, dumbass'. Site an example of a 'black leader' teaching kids that reading, writing, learning good business and being a good person are nothing abut tools used to "make you white". Try not to give me some annecdote from your life, try to actually make your case.

and 4, do they let you write copy at this nice pying marketing firm you work 40+ hours a week at while still going to school and wasting all your time here?

[VinceZeb]

Hang around groups of young black people. Find one that goes home and studies, while the rest of the group does not. Watch the "Oreo" references fly. It has been well documented by people such as Thomas Sowell and Larry Elder. I also apologize if experiences I have had in my life don’t make good “sources” for you. I guess that discredits the entire human existence, because everything is based on experiences.

As to your second comment: I don’t understand a fucking thing you are saying. I don’t speak retard. Speak English and then maybe I will be able to answer it.

[sspadowsky]

When did this happen, Vince? When did you witness this happening? And where can we find the well-documented information from Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell?

By the way, I noticed, not to my surprise, that you failed to acknowledge me stating that Ann Coulter and Bernie Goldberg are completely full of shit.

[VinceZeb]

Tales from friends and roomates.

Townhall.com is a good place to start. Worldnetdaily is keen as well.

I didn't adress coulter or Goldberg becuase I have looked up the sources in their books. They are on the majority more correct than any book that claims right wing bias in the news.

[mburbank]

you wouldn't care to give any concrete examples of whatever the hell it was you were trying to say there, would you. I mean., aside from your usual 'ask anyone' 'it's common knowledge, dumbass'.
-Me

"Hang around groups of young black people."
"Tales from friends and roomates. "
-Vinth

"They are on the majority more correct than any book that claims right wing bias in the news."
"I don’t understand a fucking thing you are saying. I don’t speak retard. Speak English and then maybe I will be able to answer it."
Vinth.

I never accused you of speaking retrd. I have far more respect for the retarded than that.

The 'they' in your quoted sentence is not defined. Does it refer to authors themselves or speciffic statements in their books. 'On the Majority' is without meaning. Perhaps you meant 'on the whole' or 'mostly' or 'most of the time'. By failing to site a speciffic book, or books and using the word any, you make a completely open ended, unprovable, hyperbolic claim. In addition, things cannot be 'more correct', they are either correct or not. Perhaps you mean 'correct more often'. What brand of English is it you'd like me to speak? I've already chosen I can speak yours. I just don't do it unless I want a laugh.

[Zhukov]

Tales from Friends and Roomates
By Vince Zeb

Can I pre order my copy?

Hang around groups of young black people. Find one that goes home and studies, while the rest of the group does not. Watch the "Oreo" references fly.
Is this "black culture"? Watching "Oreo" refrences fly?

[VinceZeb]

Max, go out and prove me wrong. I doubt your work schedule is that demanding. You want to talk smack about what I'm talking about, so why don't you go out and be intelligent and try to prove what I'm saying is factually dishonest.

Next time I talk to someone about their personal experiences, I will make sure they have pictures, certified letters, uneditied video, diaries and other such information so I can present it to you.

[sspadowsky]

When we ask for personal experiences, we mean YOUR personal experiences, not, "My friends told me about this one time...."

didn't adress coulter or Goldberg becuase I have looked up the sources in their books. They are on the majority more correct than any book that claims right wing bias in the news.

Really? Any particular sources stand out? 'Cause I can dig up several examples froum Coulter's books that are either distorted, or patently false. And when you say "on the majority" (which I assume means "on the whole" more correct, that leaves some margin for error, doesn't it?

And, for the record, you being the bullshit artist that you are, I don't believe you looked up her sources any more than I believe in your submarine letter. Or anything else you say, for that matter.

[VinceZeb]

Well, sspadowski, my heart is filled with sorry because you do not believe what I say. I think I shall cry now.

[Immortal Goat]

Vince, I do not want to be reduced to arguing in this thread, because that is not what I intended in making it, but please answer my question. I want to know why you refuse to believe that liberals, while not completely correct, CAN and DO make some valid points about certain subjects.

[sspadowsky]

Well, sspadowski, my heart is filled with sorry because you do not believe what I say. I think I shall cry now.

"Filled with sorry." Did you just turn into Jethro Clampett? Goddamn. And, once again, you take the sissy way out, rather than backing up your bullshit stories.

I take that back. Jethro Clampett was way smarter, although just as fictional as all of your stories.

[Zhukov]

You should point out what the Liberals are correct about. Otherwise, fill yourself with sorry.

[Immortal Goat]

Ok, what are the liberals correct about? Abortion, the death penalty, and government funded programs for the TRULY destitute are but a few things that the liberals have gotten right over the years.

[Perndog]

By "gotten right," do you mean "made policy"? Because people still disagree about these issues. I am not well-informed about politics, so remind me what the liberals think about capital punishment. I might have to disagree myself.

[Spectre X]

Vinth, stand around any group of young white men and see one go home and study, and watch the phrase 'nerd' fly.

[Anonymous]

Spectre X, stand around any group of young white men and see one go home to suck dick, and watch the phrase 'fag' fly.

[sspadowsky]

You should point out what the Liberals are correct about. Otherwise, fill yourself with sorry.

Zukhov, if you're addressing that remark to me, you're kind of missing the point. So many people want to try and paint this as an either/or situation, and it's not. Liberal vs. conservative is a silly, polarizing idea that does nothing to create true political discourse that might actually result in PROGRESS.

My reason for harassing Vince is because he uses ad hominem attacks, and quotes extremely disreputable sources, and never backs up anything he says with any evidence. And the sources he does quote want to blame it all on those nasty liberals, which makes them inherently suspect.

EDIT: By the way, I'm aware of the irony of my signature. I just think it's a funny line.

[Spectre X]

Chojin, I meant that as a response to Vinth's saying about a group of black kids and one going hoome to study being called an 'Oreo'.

[hatezealot]

this board is becoming too left.. i gotta find some more disagreable pastures.. what was the link to the newsmax bored again? newsmax doesnt seem to have a link i can find.

[Perndog]

I think I agree with hatezealot. We need more people who disagree instead of the current trend of "Look at this article." "Yeah, I know what you mean." "I agree totally." (Vince) "Your[sic] all fucking idiots." [bashing ensues].

Is it that right-wingers don't have enough of a sense of humor to be on a board like this?

[Helm]

do not question the culture with makes blacks and Latinos afraid of acting white, i.e. studying, being respectful, and working hard.

I'm sorry, there's not the littlest bit of sarcasm in that post. Now this:

We do not question the culture with makes blacks and Latinos afraid of acting white!!!1 i.e. studying, being respectful, and working hard!

would possibly would have classified as sarcasm. Notice the use of exagerated punctuation. Also, this:

We do not question the culture with makes blacks and Latinos afraid of acting white, i.e. studying, being respectful, and working hard.

maybe, just maybe could pass for sarcasm, given the emphasis on white.

Hell, even this:

We do not question the culture with makes blacks and Latinos afraid of acting white, i.e. studying, being respectful, and working hard. :rolleyes

could pass for sarcasm, even if it's the pedestrian friends type of sarcasm.

Also, for extra laughs, you could have tried this:

We do not question the culture with makes blacks and Latinos afraid of acting white! i.e. studying, being respectful, and working hard.

and it would have gone down as anything but the ultra serious gigantic slip-up you posted instead.

So, I'm sorry, you're a racist.

[Zhukov]

Zukhov, if you're addressing that remark to me, you're kind of missing the point.
No, I was addresssing that to The Imortal Goat. Perndogs comment sums up his answer well. No hard feelings ssdap?

If "abortion, the death penalty, and government funded programs for the TRULY destitute" is what it means to be 'liberal', then now we know why Vince doesn't like them, since we all know that Vince likes the death penalty, dislikes abortion and hates government funded programs.

Vince, I do not want to be reduced to arguing in this thread, because that is not what I intended in making it,
I think this is exactly the reason you started this thread.

[Zhukov]

Double...

[Zhukov]

... Triple post!

[VinceZeb]

Helm, if are this stupid when you are not on this message board, I suggest locking yourself in a nice room and never introducing your idiotic talk to the world.

What I said wasn't racist. Do you understand what the term "racist" means, goverment educated simpleton? It means to think of genetic superiority based on a race. I do not think anyone is superior to anyone else based on race. Now I know that to a p.c. dilluted moron such as yourself, an attack on a particular culture would make you act like Povlov's dog and scream "Racist racist raaaaccccciiiiiiisssssstttttt!!!!" I will let it go this once because you are an idiot and you can learn the real meaning of the world.

What I said bigoted towards the "hip-hop" culture? Yeah, it sure as hell was, but then again, prove me wrong. When people talk about how much of a role model the Tony Montona character was in "Scarface" and about how its great to "keep it real" by staying in the ghetto, you have to suspect there is something fucked up. Based on the fatherless rates in urban areas and especially in black families, you can see where this would influence the child from being just a type of music or movie into a full-fledged lifestyle.

And if you can't accept that, then go out into traffic on the interstate and count mufflers.

[Immortal Goat]

Ok, Vince (notice how I am restraining myself from calling you "Vinth", since I am being serious here), I have yet to see an actual answer from you on my original question.

[Anonymous]

Spectre X, I meant that as a response to your saying about a group of white kids and one going hoome to study being called an 'nerd'.

[VinceZeb]

Your original question would have me admitting that some on the left were right about certain issues when in fact the debate is still going on about those said issues.

It is nothing more than your opinion on what the left has gotten "right", no pun intended. If I don't agree with that, then the only answer I can give is that I don't think the left is right about anything.

[FS]

The sad fact of the matter is, you would disagree with a "liberal" or "leftie" solely for the sake of disagreeing.

[glowbelly]

Do you understand what the term "racist" means, goverment educated simpleton?

helm is greek, as in HE LIVES IN GREECE. did you also know that helm's second language is english? and that he has mastered it a whole hell of a lot better than you, vince, who has been educated by our shitty school system?

[Rev. Danno]

this board is becoming too left...
This Board didn't used to be so Right wing, but all thse fucking white kids from middle america with no idea of what the real world is like, posting there opinions about shit they don't understand.
This board used to be a lot more left, I just hope someday that the 15 y/o's who think it's funny to be all ****** this, and fag that, either pull their heads out of thier asses, or move to another board.

[VinceZeb]

And you, Danno, know about the "real world" so much because why?

[Rev. Danno]

I've Lived in places where I was the only one who spoke english, I've lived in places the police would not come. I've worked my ass off of barley enough to get by. I've seen people die, I've delt with a lot of death in my life. I have been the Minority in places. I been places where Americans are hated.
I've been attacked, shot at and even arestted for my belifes...
As I've said before, I've seen and done more then most people twice my age.

[Immortal Goat]

Rev. Danno, I appplaud you. I cannot begin to imagine what it is like to live in those conditions. The worst I have to put up with is some 17-18 year old idiots that are white, but are wanna be "gangstas", or muscle-headed jocks that look at a book and see nothing but a lot of boring words. In other words, I go to school in a very preppie private school. From Vince's posts, I would guess he went to a catholic school, which would explain his closed mindedness. Catholic schools reek of ignorance and an all around "Holier than Thou" attitude that fits Vinth (notice how I am calling him Vinth again) perfectly.

[VinceZeb]

And to you Danno I say: So what?

You can say you have done anything on a message board, that doesn't make it true. Besides, why is it that everyone's definition of "real" life has to involve overcoming every hardship in the book like they are fucking Helen Keller? I also love how everyone that has an opposing view to you is just a bunch of "fucking white kids from Middle America." Yeah, that shows how impressed we should be with your struggle for existance.

[Zhukov]

What is the correct definition of "real life"?

While you're at it, how about "black culture" as well?

[VinceZeb]

Sorry, but I won't bite on your "black culture" worm and hook. If you don't know what I'm talking about then you are sheltered.

[sspadowsky]

You can say you have done anything on a message board, that doesn't make it true.

And you better believe that nobody knows that better than Vince.

[Spectre X]

that deserves a huge fucking ZING!

[mburbank]

"You can say you have done anything on a message board, that doesn't make it true."

Submarine letter
Chem Bio Unit
Unamed medical conditions that render people unfit for military services
A job that makes a 'nice' amount of money
underwater handjob action
speaking with groups of young black men
etc.


If what you are saying is that no one has any credability on the web, than I would agree with you. One can only establish credability by writing well and communicating clearly. This is the nature of the medium. It puts you at a distinct disadvantage, and it's why you are mocked far more than anyone other conservative here, and that inlcudes Ronnie, and that's saying a lot.

Who cares? Why, you do, Vinth. Why else are you here? You like to 'talk smack'. And we like you here. But people like all sorts of awful things. That's why traffic always slows to a crawl near an accident.

"Besides, why is it that everyone's definition of "real" life has to involve overcoming every hardship in the book like they are fucking Helen Keller?"

I don't. But if I wanted to get an opinion on what is was like to be deaf dumb and blind, I'd value Ms. Keller's opinion more than yours. See if you can figure out what I'm getting at there without answring the waffle iron.

[Zhukov]

I can't think why rap songs and loose clothing would hurt you in overall society.

[mburbank]

Bite on my black culture worm and hook, baby.

[Helm]

I shouldn't even be replying to you again, but that bit about you 'letting me go' was just too much.

What I said wasn't racist. Do you understand what the term "racist" means, goverment educated simpleton? It means to think of genetic superiority based on a race. I do not think anyone is superior to anyone else based on race.

Hey, having actually finished highschool, I actually know there's more racism can manifest in more forms than that which is based on racial prejudice. There's racism against a religion group, against fans of opposing football teams, against the even the opposite sex. The actual basis of racism is that fear towards any arbitarily selected group of people that we choose to feel threatened by. For example "fat people are fucking stupid" is a gross generalization that can be considered racist. I would then safely say that your ignorant and bigoted attitude towards 'black culture' can classify as racism. And be right. Inherent racial limitation and whether you believe in it is not always the issue. The basing of a generalised discrimination on social traits we attribute to the whole of a selected group, whichever it may be, is the issue at hand.


Now I know that to a p.c. dilluted moron such as yourself, an attack on a particular culture would make you act like Povlov's dog and scream "Racist racist raaaaccccciiiiiiisssssstttttt!!!!" I will let it go this once because you are an idiot and you can learn the real meaning of the world.

Don't let me go. Have me, make me yours. I will surrender myself in your masculine, hive-ravished arms. You are the man for me, Vinth. I just can't help but feel attracted by a man in a submarine officer uniform.


What I said bigoted towards the "hip-hop" culture? Yeah,

Ah, at least we're getting somewhere. Despite the broken syntax, you're at least admitting to being a bigot. It's good that you admit it. Next step: stop being one.

it sure as hell was, but then again, prove me wrong.

I didn't want to prove you wrong. I wanted to prove you stupid. I have a fervent distaste towards the political foundation that provides your american model of living it's core and I don't care to go into the defense of the recent commercialization of ghetto trend.

you have to suspect there is something fucked up.


I know there's many things that are fucked up. To begin with, you're a racist and a bigot.


Based on the fatherless rates in urban areas and especially in black families, you can see where this would influence the child from being just a type of music or movie into a full-fledged lifestyle.

Oh heavens why couldn't the children just stay as types of music or movies, instead of turning into full-fledged lifestyles? Darn them! Shoot! Cock.

And if you can't accept that, then go out into traffic on the interstate and count mufflers.


Suck my greek nuts. They're hairy and exotic. I'm greek. Taste the mediterranean.

[mburbank]

Vinth relies on a Boortz formulated argument that as racism is defined;

" a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

I'll stay away from the fact that he mixes up the word genetic in here and summarize instead.

"I (Vinth/Boortz) don't believe that my caucasian ancestry makes me than the ancestry of other groups of people"

See? If that's true statement Vinth/Boortz is not a racist. And Vinth/boortz almost certainly believes the statement to be true.

It's also a great statement becuase it has loopholes you can drive an SUV through. The following statements are NOT racist if you accept the Vinth/boortz formulation.

"Most African Americans today have no morals."

"Cambodians Breed like rabbits? Why? Simple. Welfare checks."

Neither of tense statements says that White people are better. Therefore, no racism has occured.

"The hip hop culture has got African Americans believing white values like having a job and taking care of your kids are no good."

While values and superiority are assigned here, current African American beliefs are not stated to be determined by race. Isolate a Black baby and raise them in a white household and they might well embrace white values. As defined by Vinth/boortz there is nothing racist about the quoted statement or the analysis I have just made.

"Talk to a bunch of young hispanics today and you'll find all they care about is lowriders, sex and tacos."

No racism at all. Did I say their race determined at birth that these would be thir sole concerns? No. Is it true? Prove that I'm wrong!


The Vinth/Boortz view of racism is a get out of jail free card. It allows him to believe anything he wants and assign it to any group of people he wants. He doesn't have to back it up, and he doesn't have to apologize because the fact that they are mostly horrible, irresponsible, corrupt, etc. was not determined by their birth. It's just the way all those people are right now. They may have been taught their faults by thir parents or society or their own culture, but at birth they were as white as you and me.

Here's what I hate. Ignorant white trash like you. You can take 'em out of the trailor park, but their still pigs, they still stink and they spread their bigotry and hatred everywhere they go. It's not genetics, it's their culture. Hang around a bunch of them for a while, let one talk about compassion toward others and watch the fists and drool fly. How do I know? Going out and talking to groups of young white trash . I also had a roomate who was white trash. Are my life experiences less valid than yours? Prove I'm wrong.

[Helm]

Oh I get it now. Thanks burbank. What you basically do is stick the burden of proof up your ass and dare the other guy to go looking.

[VinceZeb]

Helm, you would probably love for a man to lick your nuts... being Greek and all.

I'll make this quick.

Helm, you are jealous because you resent a bigoted, "racist" person like myself being able to live in the greatest free country in the existance of humankind. Well, wah wah wah. The main reason you are jealous is probably because we have a thing round dese here parts called a shower which has obviously passed your peoples' comprehension. When I go to sleep tonight in my nice American bed I'll laugh at your stupid greek ass with your presumebly stupid Greek name that sounds like a retarded kid trying to talk with crackers in his mouth.

Speaking of Max, you just dont like me because you hate the fact that I can be successful while you being much brighter and enlightened than me can only impress geeks and losers on an internet board. You have the biggest case of white liberal guilt I have witnessed outside of a movie picture.

I rule. You suck. American rules. Helm's stupid country sucks. Good night and God bless.

[Big McLargehuge]

How can you talk like you do and still have the nerve to invoke the name of God?

[Anonymous]

I love Vince the same way I love the bad guys on wrestling :<

[Helm]

http://www.sylpher.com/helm/vinth.jpg

If Chojin was online he'd photoshop a waving american flag in the background and the disembodied heads of both Bush and The Pope glancing their approval towards everyone's favourite pathological liar and spandex-ed champion of ignorance.

[VinceZeb]

At least you could have gave me a thong!

[AChimp]

Helm, you are jealous because you resent a bigoted, "racist" person like myself being able to live in the greatest free country in the existance of humankind. Well, wah wah wah. The main reason you are jealous is probably because we have a thing round dese here parts called a shower which has obviously passed your peoples' comprehension. When I go to sleep tonight in my nice American bed I'll laugh at your stupid greek ass with your presumebly stupid Greek name that sounds like a retarded kid trying to talk with crackers in his mouth.

Nope, not racist at all. :rolleyes

[FS]

One could paste one of Max's Vince-imitation blurbs in this thread and replace every mention of "Jew" with "Greek".

[mburbank]

Vinth, you are jealous because you resent a Greek person like Helm being able to write English better than you and living in the country that invented Democracy. The main reason you are jealous is probably because he has a thing in his head called a brain which has obviously passed your comprehension. When we go to sleep tonight in our nice greek and American beds, we'll laugh at your stupid white trash ass because it's attatched to a retarded kid trying to talk with crackers in his mouth.

[Perndog]

Yeah, everyone resents Americans because they get to live in such a free society, and that's why I'm *not* going to leave this place and live in Europe as soon as I'm out of college. :irony

[mburbank]

careful, there, Pern! Your going to slip off Vinth's Christmas card list!

[Perndog]

Is that where those badly crayoned portraits of Dick Cheney came from?

[mburbank]

No that's Dick Tracy. You might want to burn them. Ever since he found out youy can make a turkey if you trace your hand, he's been trying to find a body part to make Santa for his X-mas cards. No, it's santa all right. Just look close. Closer. You might want a magnifying glass. It's a real small santa.

[Vibecrewangel]

Suck my greek nuts. They're hairy and exotic. I'm greek. Taste the mediterranean.



Helm made me LOL through this whole thread!

[AChimp]

That's why he's my new signature. :)

[Helm]

I made people lol! I'm the new jamesman! Which is a good thing because the last one broke while attempting self-fellatio :(