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Jeanette X
Oct 14th, 2003, 09:40 PM
Source: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_782986.html?menu=

Metallica song used to interrogate Iraqis

US interrogators in Baghdad are using heavy metal songs to break Iraqi captives.

Officials say subjecting prisoners to long sessions of the "culturally offensive" music encourages them to talk.

The interrogators' favourite tracks include Metallica's Enter Sandman and the Drowning Pool song Bodies, from the Vin Diesel action film XXX.

The Metallica song repeatedly makes the warning: "Sleep with one eye open, gripping your pillow tight."

Sergeant Mark Hadsell told Newsweek magazine: "These people haven't heard heavy metal before. They can't take it."

US officials say they also use children's music, such as the Sesame Street theme, and a selection of songs from Barney, the jolly purple dinosaur.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,959538,00.html

Story filed: 14:35 Monday 19th May 2003

Metallica is latest interrogation tactic

Julian Borger in Washington
Tuesday May 20, 2003
The Guardian

US military interrogators are using unorthodox musical techniques to extract information about weapons of mass destruction of fugitive Ba'athist leaders from their detainees - a fearsome mix of Metallica and Barney the Dinosaur.
The Americans have long been aware of the impact of heavy metal music on foreign miscreants. They blared Van Halen (among other artists) at the Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega when he took refuge in the Vatican embassy in Panama City, and blasted similarly high-decibel music at Afghan caves where al-Qaida fighters were thought to be hiding.

Now it is reported that the combination of high-voltage rock and happy-smiley children's songs can break the will of the hardest terrorist or rogue element.

"Trust me, it works," a US "operative" told Newsweek magazine.

"In training, they forced me to listen to the Barney I Love You song for 45 minutes. I never want to go through that again."

US interrogators routinely employ "stress-and-duress" techniques, including sleep deprivation: treatment which human rights activists describe as a form of torture.

"Prolonged sensory deprivation and prolonged sensory over-stimulation can cause intense suffering. You can torture someone with psychological pressure," said Dinah PoKempner of Human Rights Watch.

Ralph Peters, a former colonel in army intelligence, called heavy metal "the American equivalent of sending bagpipes into battle".

"Anything you can do to disconcert someone is going to help," he said. "But it's a myth that torture is effective. The best way to win someone over is to treat them kindly."

Newsweek quotes a Sergeant Mark Hadsell explaining the qualities of heavy metal that bends the will of US enemies.

"These people haven't heard heavy metal before. They can't take it. If you play it for 24 hours, your brain and body functions start to slide, your train of thought slows down and your will is broken.

"That's when we come in and talk to them."

:lol :rock

Audio interview: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3042907.stm

El Blanco
Oct 14th, 2003, 09:47 PM
a fearsome mix of Metallica and Barney the Dinosaur.

Oh, thats just wrong. Seriously, where is amnesty international?

ranxer
Oct 14th, 2003, 10:07 PM
hilarious yet frightening

i wonder who's studying this

even culture shock could be a form of torture when used a certain way, i don't have a clue where 'human rights violation' applies but it is a form of torture, no?

Jeanette X
Oct 14th, 2003, 10:10 PM
"Still won't talk, eh? Perhaps 4 hours of the Dead Kennedies will loosen your tongue..." :posh

Zhukov
Oct 14th, 2003, 10:26 PM
I would have thought shitty doof-doof music would've worked better.

Perndog
Oct 14th, 2003, 10:40 PM
It won't work for long. The Arabs will start conditioning themselves not to mind this sort of stuff. Even if it's offensive for religious reasons, apologists find ways to get around it.

kahljorn
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:56 AM
Next thing you know they'll hire male prosititues to show our iraqi prisoners a "Good Time", you know they'll talk then.

Anonymous
Oct 15th, 2003, 11:02 AM
I'll bet that the Iraqis already think that Metallica has sold out.

El Blanco
Oct 15th, 2003, 12:08 PM
"Why are we attacking them? It is obvious Allah is already punishing them with St Anger."

sspadowsky
Oct 15th, 2003, 12:41 PM
Dr. Boogie made me LOL.

Protoclown
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:05 PM
Me too :lol

Rez
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:04 PM
cut the crap and put on the merzbow.

The One and Only...
Oct 15th, 2003, 04:49 PM
WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY PLAY TECHNO!!!

kellychaos
Oct 15th, 2003, 04:56 PM
It won't work for long. The Arabs will start conditioning themselves not to mind this sort of stuff. Even if it's offensive for religious reasons, apologists find ways to get around it.

I just got a visual of some isolated, terrorist training camp in the Himalayas with a mosh pit.

KellyGayos
Oct 15th, 2003, 08:19 PM
no

Rez
Oct 15th, 2003, 09:32 PM
WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY PLAY TECHNO!!!

there's too much groove for it to be painful. anti-funsters say different.

Cap'n Crunch
Oct 15th, 2003, 10:25 PM
If they listened to what Ninjavenom listens to, they would kill themselves.

Helm
Oct 16th, 2003, 08:26 AM
Dr made me lol too :lol

But yeah, if they played umm... Agoraphobic Nosebleed 24 hours a day it would work better than wimpy metallica songs.

Ninjavenom
Oct 16th, 2003, 12:07 PM
I was gonna say that. AN are a million times more offensive than Metallica, methinks. The problem is getting them to somehow read/hear the lyrics at some sort of comprehensible pace. o .o