Great rock operas!

[Guitar Woman]

I didn't find a previous thread like this! Reccomend me some, please!

I've already got The Wall and The Black Parade, I heart both of them. I'm also getting Tommy by The Who soon, but other than that I have no idea.

[Emu]

I was gonna mention Tommy :(

[AlliSabbah]

Not sure if it counts but Phantom of the Paradise.

[Fathom Zero]

KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park.

[executioneer]

thing-fish

[JediScum]

GWAR is kind of rock opera. Not really evident on their albums but, if you watch "Phallus in Wonderland" or "Skul-Hed-Face", they are stories.

King Diamond's solo efforts "Them" and "Conspiracy" is actually a two album Rock Opera. But some don't dig his vocal style.

Oh, yeah, Voivod's "Dimension Hatross" kicks mucho arse. The whole album is a story that is SCI-FI!! Before this album, I thought metal had to be about horns and tails and THE DARKSIDE.


I know it's all metal stuff, but that's what immediately comes to mind. They are good stories, combined with good music, though.

You might wanna look into Tom Waits too.

[Fathom Zero]

I guess you can sort-of construe Heavy Metal to be a rock opera, but that'd be reaching FAR.

[Sethomas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uaaF83eVig

If you think anything more needs to be said on the subject, then you will burn in hell for eternity on account of your errors.

[JediScum]

I don't know. I always thought "Rock Opera" was a story that was told with music. With metal, it seems like the term "concept album" was thrown around a lot, though.

But if "The Wall" and "Tommy" are rock opera, King Diamond's "Them" and "Conspiracy" should be included, as he would perform these albums live from start to finish, using props and sets.

Voivod's album "Dimesion Hatross", when reading the lyrics, is definitely a sci-fi story. Each of the 8 songs on that album furthers the story. What they did with it live, I don't know.

GWAR is probably a bad example. They would tell stories through the music, but not all songs on an album would be part of it.

[executioneer]

nightfall in middle-earth counts as a rock opera, right?

[JediScum]

Some may disagree, but I think it does qualify, The Residents "Mark Of The Mole" and David Bowie's "Outside".

[Guitar Woman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uaaF83eVig

If you think anything more needs to be said on the subject, then you will burn in hell for eternity on account of your errors.
holy SHIT :eek

I sort of wish there was an actual real rock opera based on Kafka's works, though ;<

[Cfr5]

HI GUYS I THINK YOU FORGOT JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR JUST THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW LOL

[AlliSabbah]

King Diamond's "Them" and "Conspiracy" should be included, as he would perform these albums live from start to finish, using props and sets.

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Id love to find a copy of that. :)

[MLE]

psykosonik's self titled album isn't rock opera, but it does tell a story through it if you're into that type of music as well. Good techno was hard to come by in the 90's, yet this still existed.

[Arioch]

To breakdown King Diamond a bit further...

5 songs on Diamond's first post-Mercyful Fate album, Fatal Portrait, are all part of the same story: The Candle, The Jonah, The Portrait, Dressed in White, and Haunted. The next King Diamond album, Abigail, is entirely of the same concept, and is arguably his finest effort. Them and Conspiracy are both the same concept. The Spiders Lullabye and Abigail II are also concept albums, with Abigail II a continuation of Abigail.

Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime is an opus "rock opera" concept album, followed by Operation: Mindcrime II.

Fates Warning released an album called No Exit, and the entire second side is all of one concept: The Ivory Gate of Dreams (Innocence, Cold Daze, Daylight Dreamers, Quietus, Ivory Tower, Whispers on the Wind, Acquiescence, Retrospect).

For more instrumental "rock opera" themed concepts: Agalloch put 3 songs on Pale Folklore that are connected, "She Painted Fire Across the Sky (parts 1,2, and 3)".

Continuing in the instrumental vein, Burzum released two albums, Daudi Baldrs and Hlioskjalf that are loosely connected concepts, but can be listened to separately.

These are the albums I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a lot more that I'm forgetting.

Unfortunately, finding complete accompanying videos or movies based on these works is impossible. There were single videos made of some of the songs though and you can probably find them on YouTube.

[JediScum]

A few days ago, I looked up Rock Opera on Wikipedia, since they are such authorities on it, to see what they had to say about it. Rock Opera, is basically a story, told through music, from the first person perspective, having one or more charcters. A lot of time the characters are named, but it doesn't always have to be so.

There was also mention of metal, kinda sorta qualifying.

To argue FOR metal, The music is usually a lot more technical and some people won't listen to metal because of "that opera singer crap". So, I think, metal shouldn't be so easily dismissed of a genre for Rock Opera.

However, metal or not, if Rock Opera tells a story, through at least one character, in the first person, then these do have to be included.

Residents - "Mark of the Mole" and "GOD in Three Persons"
David Bowie - "Outside"
Almost anything King Diamond has ever done outside of Mercyful Fate.
Voivod - "Dimesion Hatross"

There are those works which are given Rock Opera status, but the main reason I haven't listed them is because I am unfamiliar with them.

The Who - "Tommy"
Jesus Christ Superstar
possibly Pink Floyd - "The Wall" (wiki didn't list them)
Queensryche - "Operation:Mindcrime"

These are all albums where the story is not interupted by extraneous songs such as many of GWAR's releases.

Other suspects of potential Rock Opera may be Rush, King Crimson, Tom Waits, and Helloween. Send me money so I can find out.

[executioneer]

so no frank zappa then? I mean i suppose it's not readily classified as "rock" most of the time, but at very least joe's garage and thing-fish both tell stories of a sort

[Esuohlim]

Thing-fish sucks, though

[executioneer]

parts of it do yeah but it has its moments!

[AlliSabbah]

I wonder if Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter would count. :)

[JediScum]

Goddamnit Code-Wheel! Yer right. I forgot about Joe's Garage.

Spot on.

[Synical]

Dream Theater's "Scenes from a Memory"

thread over

[MLE]

honestly, guys, I love dream theater.

[Optimizt]

honestly, guys, I love dream theater.honestly, guys, I love this guy.

[Guitar Woman]

MLE's a chick ;<

[Sacks]

Ziltoid the Omniscient

[MLE]

I bet he thought I was a guy because I like dream theater ;<

[Guitar Woman]

That Dream Theater album is a little too METAL GUITAR AND EVERY SONG LASTS FIVE HOURS for me, sorry ;<


It's not bad or anything, but I don't like it.

[MLE]

Jerk.

[Optimizt]

That Dream Theater album is a little too METAL GUITAR AND EVERY SONG LASTS FIVE HOURS for me, sorry ;<


It's not bad or anything, but I don't like it.LEARN2PROGRESSIVE METAL

[zeldasbiggestfan]

Shut the fuck up.

The Who is fantastic by the way. In a rock opera way or any other.

Define rock opera please :(

[Eyelobe]

Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny.

\m/

[Sethomas]

I really like the part in Verdi's "Un Ballo in Maschera" where the conspirators mock the King Gustav character, for which part the characters sing melodized laughter in unison.

Verdi sure could rock his opera.

[Eyelobe]

Amadeus?

[Guitar Woman]

Define rock opera please :(
What, seriously?

It's a fucking opera with rock music. Jesus.

[MLE]

A few days ago, I looked up Rock Opera on Wikipedia, since they are such authorities on it, to see what they had to say about it. Rock Opera, is basically a story, told through music, from the first person perspective, having one or more charcters. A lot of time the characters are named, but it doesn't always have to be so.

Definition of Rock opera that was ALREADY STATED IN THIS THREAD YOU COLOSSAL IDIOT. (zbf, not you GW i would never say that about you)

[Rongi]

The Who's Quadrophenia should count as a rock opera. I dont like that album tho

Oh and I am very dissapointed that none of you faggots reccomended "The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders from Mars"

[Sacks]

Ziltoid The Omniscient!

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Alice Cooper's Welcome to my nightmare.

[Tadao]

Some might disagree, but I feel that Jethro Tull's Auqualung is a story. And a great album too.

[Tadao]

Oh... and Mercyful Fate's Mellissa is a rock opera.

[Tadao]

1 more... My favorite (besides Quadrophenia) is Roger Water's Pros and Cons of Hitchinking. I only like to listen to it when I'm depressed and angry though. I have owned the other Roger Waters and I don't like them. This one has Eric Clapton playing Gutiar. Pink Floyds Final Cut is good to. I guess when PF was disbanding they had a choice between these 2 albums for their final album.

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Pink Floyd didn't disband until around 1995. The rest of the members kept on going after Roger Waters left following the release of the Final Cut.

[Tadao]

That's not pink floyd. That's crap. I consider them dead after Rodger left.

[Cedar]

i think Dream Theater and the like suck, because it doesnt sound like music is just like LOOK AT WHAT I PLAY IS SUPER HARD TO DO AND SOUNDS LIKE CRAP! thats not progressive is just people showing off.

[MLE]

I don't think you've listened to enough dream theater. I've been clasically trained as a vocalist, and have a fairly high appreciation for music, and personally, I really like dream theater.

[Spetsnaz]

Dream Theater pwns from a technical standpoint.

If you want to see super hard, try to fuckin play like Malmstreen.

[Cedar]

fuck neo-classical

[MLE]

I think you're letting hate cloud your judgement. I don't like most neo-classical. Don't group dream theater in there.

[Cedar]

maybe i'm too judgemental, i should download one of their albums later.
also back on topic i suggest March on Electric Children by The Blood Brothers.

[Sacks]

No Cedar, Dream Theatre is just full of masturbatory bullshit.

[Guitar Woman]

After listening to that entire album I have decided that Dream Theatre fucking sucks

[MLE]

well fuck you and your untrained ears then >:

[Spetsnaz]

Dream Theater ist krieg.

[Sacks]

Dream Theatre is least krieg you take that back you son of a bitch.

[Spetsnaz]

NO U

[ElPila666]

If tenacius D pick of destiny is a opera rock then i choose Crossroads with the karate kid guy and steve vai

[Guitar Woman]

Pick of Destiny was a pretty kickass movie.

[ElPila666]

well you're right, i just trying to remember another from the 70's like jesuscrist superstar, is Led Zeppelin's "the song remains the same" an opera rock? or queen "made in heaven"?

[Grislygus]

That one recent German rock opera based on The Incredible Vampire Killers that I will never, ever be able to see.

[Esuohlim]

Dream Theater pwns from a technical standpoint.

I tend to appreciate bands a lot more based on musical and technical ability as opposed to emotional resonance, which is why I love stuff like Zappa and hate stuff like Bob Dylan and the Beatles.

That said I really like Dream Theater >:

[JediScum]

there must be something about Dream Theatre. I've never heard their music really but, i've never heard any one say, "Meh". People either love them or hate them.

Would the first Fantomas album be rock opera, or is that just "soundtrack to a Mexican comic book"?

[Guitar Woman]

"meh" describes exactly how I feel about Dream Theater.

They're boring, but not enough to piss me off like some other bands. the doors

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Do you like any bands that arent shit?

[Sacks]

Guitar Woman likes all that shit that people smoke weed in high school like. Like Pink Floyd.

[JediScum]

ok, i tried to multiquote something about King Diamond but futzed it 3 times. Then again, I didn't smoke weed in high school.

What I said was King Diamond would play the albums "Them" and "Conspiracy" live from start to finish, using props and stuff.

I think AlliSabbah said "I'd like to find a copy of that"

Look in this thread around Dec.20, 2007. or 20/12/07 for those who use metric.

My point being this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H92CXPFL3OU

[Guitar Woman]

Pink Floyd is great ;(

Unless you're just listening to The Wall and Dark Side of the Moon while not being high. Go get Ummagumma or something, fags.

[Tadao]

Always hated Ummagumma, Syd Barrett was the greatest Lunatic ever.

[Guitar Woman]

actually fuck that go listen to Animals and Atom Heart Mother >: >: >:

[Guitar Woman]

I like Ummagumma but other people probably won't

You'll also hate Animals if you're impatient since every song lasts 20 hours

[Tadao]

What about Obscured by Clouds? That was favorite.

[Guitar Woman]

I don't have that one :(

[Tadao]

Get it. From the albums you are throwing out there, you'll love it. There is a 20 minute song on there that is held as one of Pink Floyds greatest. I also think that David Gilmore was at his peak in song writting on this one.