So I'm thinking about getting a PS3

[Dr. V]

Since 360 and ps3 are kinda close in price, I'm considering one of the two. And after talking to my friend, I'm leaning towards ps3. I'll be honest I don't know much about either, being a wii owner. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each system, that you as the consumer have noticed. I can get all the tech crap elsewhere.

[Mintrude]

I hear the PS3 is more reliable. Online's worse if that's important to you, but it's free.

[MetalMilitia]

It's still the best blu-ray player according to most sources. If you have a decent HD TV it'd probably be worth it just for that.

The lack of games is the system's only real problem.

[bigtimecow]

i know the ps3 is more like an entertainment center because of the lack of games and all the fancy shmancy blu-ray player stuff.

i say go with the 360, because you have fucking BIOSHOCK and shit for chrissakes.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, the main complaint I hear from friends who have ps3s is the lack of games. Most people that I know don't give a shit about blu-ray and they play video games for the actual gaming, not all the technical aspects. I like the 360 because the online play is fucking great so far, there's a pretty big library of games, xbox live arcade, and the friends list thing is really useful. Makes it easy to do shit like play a game of smashtv with sam, or play that lame mac game with chojin.

[terrva]

As a xbox 360 owner i can only give you a pretty one sided opinion, but the ups about x360 is the wide game library and the good online features. The downs are reliability (i have two friends that have had their consoles red ringed) and the fact that you have to pay for most of the online features.

To be honest, the blu-ray sounds pretty nifty to me, so i might buy a PS3 myself in the future.

[RaNkeri]

To be honest, the blu-ray sounds pretty nifty to me, so i might buy a PS3 myself in the future.

Seconded, especially now that some companies have decided to start using blu-ray's only in near future. Or that's what my friend was bitching about last night :/

[Its_Not_a_tumor]

I own a Wii too, and was actually considering an XBOX, but the reliability, XBOX LIVE monthly fees, and cost/benefit pushed me away from the idea. I used to own the original XBOX, which I liked very much, and I am saddened by how Microsoft's hardware quality level has sunken to near Windows Vista terribleness.

If I were you, I would wait and either get the PS3, or the next version of the XBOX 360, if one ever does arrive on stores.

Also BlueRay is the king.

[HickMan]

I've got a 360 and love it. I mean, if you get one you pretty much are required to get a gold membership to xbox live or it's like owning half of a system. But you get what you pay for...I mean...I downloaded the uncut John Rambo trailer onto my xbox! I also have a live sync from my pc to the xbox so I can listen to my own playlists when playing online in all my multiplayer games. You can also watch movies you download from your computer on your tv through the sync.

If you're all about gaming, I'd go for the 360. Since the library does pretty much cover all the genres.

[MetalMilitia]

Spend the money on PC upgrades. PC gaming is still king.

[Emu]

I'm probably gonna hold out for a PS3 simply because of MGS4. That and I never had an original xBox :[

[Spetsnaz]

I own an Xbox 360. In one year, I've only ever had one RRoD ( Red Ring of Death ), and it was because of a faulty Xbox Live update. Except for the chinks like that, and the Halo fanboys you run into every other FPS ( First Person Shooter ), the 360 is pretty impressive all around.

Not being a fanboy myself, I intend to buy a PS3 when I can afford one solely for Tekken 6 and MGS 4.

[Dr. V]

So far I'm getting good feedback on both. But I'm still leaning to ps3 (playstation three) a little more.

[Chojin]

Spend the money on PC upgrades. PC gaming is still king.

King of what? Unreal Tournament only pushed 32,000 copies in its first week, and Crysis didn't do much better.

[Spetsnaz]

Thats because to play Crysis you need some sort of super computer...

[Chojin]

I think it's more because the only game that PC users buy now is World of Warcraft

[WhiteRat]

I'm biased as a 360 (Microsoft Xbox 360) owner but i've been very happy with my choice. I was stuck between the two last spring but the only reason why I would even want a PS3 (Sony Playstation 3) is for Gran Turismo and Forza 2 is a pretty good Turismo clone for the 360. About the ring of death, I had it one time 2 weeks ago but I simply shut off the console and turned it back on. Shit's worked fine ever since.

To be fair I only know one person who owns a PS3 and he's told me it gathers dust behind his 360 and his Wii (Nintendo Wii).

[Dr. V]

Thanks for you input WhiteRat (WhiteRat)

[Spetsnaz]

I'm biased as a 360 (Microsoft Xbox 360) owner but i've been very happy with my choice. I was stuck between the two last spring but the only reason why I would even want a PS3 (Sony Playstation 3) is for Gran Turismo and Forza 2 is a pretty good Turismo clone for the 360. About the ring of death, I had it one time 2 weeks ago but I simply shut off the console and turned it back on. Shit's worked fine ever since.

To be fair I only know one person who owns a PS3 and he's told me it gathers dust behind his 360 and his Wii (Nintendo Wii).


To be honest, the only reason I got a Xbox 360 over the PS 3, besides the video game library, was the outrageous price for a piece of equipment ( Blu-Ray ), that I know I'm NEVER going to use.

[MetalMilitia]

King of what? Unreal Tournament only pushed 32,000 copies in its first week, and Crysis didn't do much better.

Yeah, but Crysis sold 0 copes on consoles and UT only sold marginally better on PS3 despite being one of only about 10 games available for the system. Those aren't really good examples though because UT3 is basically the same game PC gamers have had 3 times already (99, 2k3, 2k4) and Crysis has limited itself to the hardcore market by having retarded system requirements.
I say PC gaming is king because if you pick a genre (excluding stupid party games, sports or fighting games) PC is likely to provide the defining experience, the only caveat being that you need to constantly upgrade to keep on top of the latest games' requirements. A lot of people consider this a major fault with the platform but I consider it to be one of its biggest strengths. I heard somewhere that the PS3's expected life-cycle is last around 8 years. In one year I can guarantee PC gaming technology will completely eclipse anything the PS3 could hope to achieve.

I'm not saying consoles are worthless. They're fine at what they do but PC gaming will always be on another level to the slow moving console market.

Before you say that I'm just talking about technology, which I'm sure we can all agree does not unnecessarily make a great game I will direct your attention to the other thing which sets PC gaming apart from consoles; community driven content. For the £25 I paid for HL several years ago I've probably gotten hundreds of hours of gaming goodness at no extra cost thanks to the community's excess of time, ideas and modding sillz. Having seen the Crysis SDK in action I'd be surprised if we didn't start seeing good quality mods and maps almost immediately.

PC gaming has it's problems but as far as "gaming", not "casual gaming" or "party gaming" is concerned it's as good as it gets.

[terrva]

I was stuck between the two last spring but the only reason why I would even want a PS3 (Sony Playstation 3) is for Gran Turismo and Forza 2 is a pretty good Turismo clone for the 360.

Forza 2 is indeed great, possibly the best car simulation on 360. The downloadable car and track packs are a pretty nice feature too, though somebody might think that they're too expensive.

[Mintrude]

If you are going to get the 360, I hope you like FPS games.

[Spetsnaz]

Yeah, but Crysis sold 0 copes on consoles and UT only sold marginally better on PS3 despite being one of only about 10 games available for the system. Those aren't really good examples though because UT3 is basically the same game PC gamers have had 3 times already (99, 2k3, 2k4) and Crysis has limited itself to the hardcore market by having retarded system requirements.
I say PC gaming is king because if you pick a genre (excluding stupid party games, sports or fighting games) PC is likely to provide the defining experience, the only caveat being that you need to constantly upgrade to keep on top of the latest games' requirements. A lot of people consider this a major fault with the platform but I consider it to be one of its biggest strengths. I heard somewhere that the PS3's expected life-cycle is last around 8 years. In one year I can guarantee PC gaming technology will completely eclipse anything the PS3 could hope to achieve.

I'm not saying consoles are worthless. They're fine at what they do but PC gaming will always be on another level to the slow moving console market.

Before you say that I'm just talking about technology, which I'm sure we can all agree does not unnecessarily make a great game I will direct your attention to the other thing which sets PC gaming apart from consoles; community driven content. For the £25 I paid for HL several years ago I've probably gotten hundreds of hours of gaming goodness at no extra cost thanks to the community's excess of time, ideas and modding sillz. Having seen the Crysis SDK in action I'd be surprised if we didn't start seeing good quality mods and maps almost immediately.

PC gaming has it's problems but as far as "gaming", not "casual gaming" or "party gaming" is concerned it's as good as it gets.

Thats very true, but a lot of people can't afford to shell out thousands in computer upgrades EVERY year. It kind of limits your ability to play the latest super realistic with real-time life like graphical engine game that PC delevopers try to outdo eachother with everywhere. At least on a console, you know the most you're going to pay ( and unfortunately.. even though I do remember SNES CARTRIDGES hitting 70.. ) is $ 60 bucks... Or $ 70 if you NEED to have that useless special edition.

When it comes down to affordibility, the consoles have an edge over the PC.

[Zomboid]

If you are going to get the 360, I hope you like FPS games.
Yeah, cause they don't have any other genres. Stuff like Forza Motorsport, Assassin's creed, mass effect, etc are just black sheep.

[MLE]

Oh, don't forget Viva Pinata, Beautiful Katamari, and Smackdown vs. Raw 2008! Those are great FPSs.

[Sam]

And there is no Dead Rising, Saints Row, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Dead or Alive 4, or Lego Star Wars. :rolleyes

[eggyolk]

good news console fan boys! the genre that carried a lot of the ps2's sales at launch is now coming to PS3 AND XBOX360.

im talking ofcourse about the GTA series.

http://ps3.advancedmn.com/images/media/gta4-009.jpg

im surprised no one has mentioned it already.

it takes place in liberty city, the same town as the first 3 i believe. this time you play as a russian trying to make it big in america. Judging from some screens I've seen this modeled heavily after NY, I even saw the statue of liberty in one screen. yea i was gonna post more pics but they arent exactly 56k friendly.

another thing to note is that it's running off the rockstar Table Tennis engine. so no more square npcs walking around. :)

[Mintrude]

*bangs head against desk*

[eggyolk]

by the time gta4 hits there will be a GOLD MINE of xb360 games, and then, just maybe, i'll pick one up :)

[Fathom Zero]

I'm going to tell you right now, the PS3 has some of the best downloadable titles I've ever seen. They've got a huge library of new and older PS1 games on it. The games are fun and it looks like it's going to do well in the near future.

That said, I still own the 360. And it's fuckin' awesome. But the HD DVD is an add-on and it looks like HD DVD is losing the format war. Not like that matters to me, though. I don't have a High Definition television set. The games are awesome, and the Achievement system, though a very small part of the experience, is extremely addicting. I love it.

[Spetsnaz]

You think the poor guys going to be able to come to a decision or not?

[Dr. V]

Not yet. Keep going.

[Fathom Zero]

I think the online play is very good on both. I don't own a PS3, but I played Warhawk at a friend's house. Kicks major ass. I also think the PS3 is a better media center.

[Spetsnaz]

If only Xbox Live were free like Playstation Network... However, you DO get what you pay for. I heard the Playstation Network had crazy lag though.

[Zomboid]

You can now "rent" movies on xbox live. I think I might get fable off of there too :O

[Spetsnaz]

Yeah, you've always been able to purchase movies for an entire week on XBL... Wow.

I love how they charge more for HD ones as well.

[MetalMilitia]

I love how they charge more for HD ones as well.

HD files are much larger in size so it stands to reason they would have higher costs in providing such content.

uhh... I mean M$$$$ YOU'RE BREAKING MY HEEEARRRT!!!

[Spetsnaz]

HD files are much larger in size so it stands to reason they would have higher costs in providing such content.

uhh... I mean M$$$$ YOU'RE BREAKING MY HEEEARRRT!!!


I doubt it really strains Microsoft that much to put HD videos on their server...

I mean, cmon... These are the guys who shipped the PCs red-headed stepchild with a 10 gig HD...

[eggyolk]

I'm going to tell you right now, the PS3 has some of the best downloadable titles I've ever seen. They've got a huge library of new and older PS1 games on it. The games are fun and it looks like it's going to do well in the near future.


while this is a neat feature, it would never be a selling point for me. im not spending $600 on a console so i REPLAY crash bandicoot or spyro the dragon. now, if they're free downloads then hell yeah.

[HickMan]

How do you think companies like Microsoft came to be so big? Not by giving stuff away for free or at a lower cost when they knew people would pay more for it...dummy!

[Zomboid]

Yep. The big 3 companies are all doing it now but I think that nintendo is fucking us the worst. It's not a huge deal for microsoft to charge roughly 12 bucks for a downloadable xbox game, but I hate paying 5 bucks for a fucking nes game. Yeah, a lot of them are classics, but I can't help but feel horribly ripped off.

[Chojin]

I especially hated how nintendo charged us $40 for six Metal Slug games, when microsoft only charges you $12 for one.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, but what you gotta love them for having controls that everyone adores and allowing online play for all of their games.

What I DO hate about nintendo though, is that they have so many others games that take up my time BEFORE I EVEN THINK ABOUT BUYING A COMPILATION DISC OF GOOD GAMES. I only wish more games would feature mario!

[Fathom Zero]

I especially hated how nintendo charged us $40 for six Metal Slug games, when microsoft only charges you $12 for one.

Wasn't it SNK who made Metal Slug? Now I'm confused.

[Sam]

METAL SLUG

[Chojin]

it was a joke, guys. zomboid tried to turn it around on me, but somewhere along the line forgot that jokes should be funny.

[Fathom Zero]

I didn't get it. "B" for effort.

[Sam]

Zomboid is like "NINTENDO GAMES TEND TO HAVE MARIO IN THEM IN SOME CAPACITY!"I think that was the joke. :(

[Zomboid]

Yeah, and their current game library sucks, I hear the controls for the metal slug compilation sucks, and chojin has a nintendo buttplug, which has "innovative features" that are all flash and no substance. He told me that last part in his secret santa letter. Oh, and online play is pretty much non-existent.

I like mario galaxy, but it's the first game I've played for wii where the controls feel natural and not like they were forced in as kind of an after thought and just really end up being really terrible.

[Dr. Boogie]

What about RE4? Granted, just about everyone has played it on some other system, but it seems like the aiming at least would work alright with the wiimote.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, it would probably feel pretty natural for that, but I already have it for gamecube so I have no idea what it's like on wii. I can understand buying something like that for wii instead of for some other system unless you're a graphics whore, but for most games it just doesn't make any sense. My friend and I rented rampage for wii a while ago and got sick of the terrible controls after about 15 minutes. Granted, it could easily just be that the game was designed with terrible controls, but that was just an example of one of the games.

[Guitar Woman]

Yes, RE4 is really good. I'm not buying it again, though.

As I've said before, the wiimote executions in Manhunt 2 are exhilarating.

Also, Zomboid? Check out Mario Strikers, for serious. I played it a while ago and loved it a lot, I'm gonna go buy it today!

[MetalMilitia]

If you really want to know just how shitty the wiimote is, try and play that Mortal Kombat game on Wii.

[Guitar Woman]

Mortal Kombat is always shitty

[Chojin]

yes if you want to know how shitty the wiimote is just play a game where you draw on the screen to fight people, that's a good indication of what all wii games are like

conversely, using a ps3 controller to fly a dragon around is like HEAVEN

[MetalMilitia]

Of all the Wii games I've played about half have been similarly shitty. The other half have been mini-games which are fun for all of 20 minutes if you have 3 other people to play with.

[Chojin]

Would you like a list of good wii games? I've provided them in other threads, but I'd be glad to do it again here!

Also, about half of the games for all systems are terrible. SHOCK!

[Dr. Boogie]

Ok, take it to the "Let's argue about video games" thread, fags.

[MetalMilitia]

Would you like a list of good wii games? I've provided them in other threads, but I'd be glad to do it again here!

Also, about half of the games for all systems are terrible. SHOCK!


Nope. I've owned a DS, I've played several Wii games and at this stage I don't care any more. Nintendo has been consigned to my shit-list.

You're right, half the games on other systems are crap, but at least with them everyone doesn't always go on about how revolutionary they are just because you can wave something in front of the screen and have your actions somewhat-roughly-notreally-almost emulated by your on-screen character or perform some pre-set animation in their place. What's worse is that these "revolutionary" control schemes always pop-up in places were they are completely inappropriate.

[MattJack]

I really hate mustard, but I love Heinz Ketchup. Tell me why I'm wrong. plz?

[MetalMilitia]

The sugary taste is completely inappropriate for my sandwiches. Sure half of the condiments are shitty but at least with them everyone isn't always going on about how ketchup is great and how they eat it with just bread or something.

[MattJack]

:( my life is over, thanks MM.

[Dr. V]

I've created a MONSTER!

[Guitar Woman]

Uh, you asked a question about which console to get on a forum full of brutally agressive fanboys, what did you expect

[Dr. V]

Heh, I'm not surpirsed. LETS STAY ON TOPIC GUYZ KTHXBI!

[HickMan]

PS3 SUCKS KAWK

[Spetsnaz]

Am I the only one who doesn't own a Wii?

[Fathom Zero]

I don't. Because i haven't found any games worth buying. And having people tell me something is good does not translate to good.

[Zomboid]

Don't get one yet. I got one last May and I wish more people had told me not to get one. Last month I got mario galaxy and that's my first game for it. I've played plenty of other games for it and none of them have struck me as worth buying. I used the virtual console a lot though. See how smash bros turns out and if it's reeeally good, get a wii, smash bros, and galaxy.

[Guitar Woman]

Are you guys unable to read! Mario Strikers Charged!

It's the most fun I've had with any game this generation!

[Fathom Zero]

Generation... Y?

[Guitar Woman]

Uh, "generation" meaning the current batch of consoles.

[Fathom Zero]

Oh. I don't like "generation." It makes it sound more epic than it really is.

[Guitar Woman]

sort of like CONSOLE WAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZJw9sbOTsc

[Dr. V]

Ha, a black Wii.