Hierarchy of Geeks

[ItalianStereotype]

MLE and I have put together a list of groups of people that we think are terrible and, as a whole, are cancerous. the list goes in order of increasing horribleness, or from the best to the worst that society has to offer. feel free to contribute, but who knows, you'll probably make the list yourself!


Listing of Geeks/Nerds in order of least offensive to be stuck with at a convention or party to most offensive.

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360/Wii players
PC gamers
PS3 fanboys
Comic books/MMO players
General forum posters
Universal Roleplayers (Normal dice. Ex: GURPS)
Specialized Roleplayers (d20 dice. Ex: AD&D)
Tabletop D&D
Collectible Card Game players (Magic the Gathering)
Tabletop gamers (Ex: Warhammer)
Manga fags
4chan fags
Cosplayers
(Oh God)Vampire the Masquerade fags
LARPers
Fanfiction Writers

General Furries
Gamefaqs forum posters
Darkon
Fursuit Furries
Adolf Hitler
/b/tards
Pedophiles
Mexicans, I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH.
:(

[Tadao]

What about gay fags?

[Chojin]

I think roleplayers are generally better people than console fanboys :<

and what, how is darkon worse than furries

and manga fags are not as bad as vamps ;<


THIS LIST IS FLAWED

[MLE]

This originated during a phone call while I was driving home from work between IS and me.

[Emu]

360 players are much more irritating than PNP players.

[Esuohlim]

Is "general forum posters" basically what you associate yourself with if you don't think you belong anywhere else?

'Cause fuck yeah I'm one of the cool ones you nerds

[Tadao]

Multi character forum abusers.

[ItalianStereotype]

manga fags and vamps deserve each other. I had a hard time not including the vamps with the larpers.

[executioneer]

do i want to know who/what darkon is

[MLE]

Chojin: I think roleplayers are generally better people than console fanboys :<
I also see this as a geekiness list, so I think that they're in a reasonable slot. Consider all the people in the genre, not just us.

Chojin: and what, how is darkon worse than furries
I've split up furries into general and fursuit, and put the fursuiters below Darkon. I hope this clears up any confusion.

Chojin: and manga fags are not as bad as vamps ;<
I agree. This has been changed

[ItalianStereotype]

do i want to know who/what darkon is

FIREBALL, FIREBALL, HEALING SPELL, SWORD, SWOOOOOOOOORD

[executioneer]

what about fans of collectible card games, where do they rank

[ItalianStereotype]

good point willie, where do you think it should go?

[executioneer]

just below warhammer people, i think?

[Esuohlim]

Since I'm assuming this list isn't limited to internet and gaming stuff what about math/science geeks? :(

[Grislygus]

I dunno, I've seen warhammer people use rulers

[executioneer]

have you ever watched a cardgame dude build a deck while talking to themselves

[MLE]

And I've seen entire lives wasted in the basement of parent's houses. Eric suggests we split up warhammer into players and people who build and paint their own models, and put CCGers between the two.

[Grislygus]

Can't say I have

That sounds pretty damned hilarious, though

[Esuohlim]

I've seen a cardgame dude start wailing on a guy that accidentally bent one in half

[Tadao]

I don't see cosplay.

[MLE]

I'd say math/science/history/leaning geeks would be pretty highish

[Grislygus]

I'd paint those gay little models for my buddies :(

I couldn't give less of a rat's ass about the game, but they're sure fun to paint those little details

[MLE]

I was assuming cosplayers would be in LARPers. Would you all like them to be split up so that Cosplayers are right above LARPers?

[Grislygus]

Dear God, Willie, where did you FIND those people, that's comedy gold

[MLE]

I think casual Warhammer and dedicated warhammer would be the two groups. Thoughts?

[ItalianStereotype]

I'll have it known that the placement of Mexicans is based solely on my feelings. everyone else can go to hell.

[Tadao]

When I think of Cosplay I think of people who shave their teeth to look like vampires. But I guess LARPER works.

[Esuohlim]

I'd say math/science/history/leaning geeks would be pretty highish

I'd want to hang out with a guy like Seth over anybody else that fits on that list personally.

Also where do we put people who make geek hierarchy lists? ;_;

[MLE]

General cosplayers are like Inuyasha or Vash at the local anime convention.

[Grislygus]

Is there REALLY any such thing as a casual warhammer player

I don't see anyone paying that much for such useless little trinkets if they're casual about it

[MLE]

I agree, which is why I see Warhammer as a worse affliction.

By the way, I didn't include people who make these lists, because I'm at Universal RPer. I play GURPS incidentally.

[ItalianStereotype]

I don't know, milhouse, but when we find that out, you're going in the spot right below it.

[Tadao]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/4/30/idontsemain128540630721718750.jpg

[Grislygus]

Oh for fuck's sake, that one doesn't even make sense

[MLE]

Cosplayers added.
Collectible Card Game players added.

[Esuohlim]

I don't know, milhouse, but when we find that out, you're going in the spot right below it.

Oh shit put me on the geek list, why I oughta

[MLE]

I'd actually say that intellectual geeks would top the list. I agree that hanging out with Sethomas would be way cooler than the general gamer.

[ItalianStereotype]

thats right milhouse one wrong move and youre ON the LIST :shakefist

better watch it, buddy

[Guitar Woman]

I like how I'm on this list in about 4 different places!

5 if you count trading card game players since I was the fucking YuGiOh master in middle school

[Phoenix Gamma]

Pedophiles- More offensive than Hitler

My third roommate in college was a fursuit furry. He's pretty popular, apparently:

http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/Immelmann

He had no friends and just sat in our room drawing porn and touching my shit when I was away. Fucking hate that guy.

[Tadao]

Oh for fuck's sake, that one doesn't even make sense

LolCat Crafters

[MLE]

Just over 5k views on deviantart isn't popular at all, actually.

And yes -Pedophiles are more offensive than Hitler.

And I do need to put an entry for Lolcat Enthusiasts, but I need to figure out where it goes. Some lolcats are honestly funny, but most are dumb as shit, so we'd be talking about someone who would laugh at pretty much everything.

[MLE]

I need INPUT. Where would you all place Intellectual Geeks and Lolcat Enthusiats?

[Tadao]

Under a bus.

[Esuohlim]

Isn't lolcat a 4chan thing? Maybe around there somewhere.

[Zomboid]

FLAWED LIST

Nerds who are into discussing sociological issues, MATH PROBLEMS, and shit like that are less approachable than your casual, regular gamer.

Also, where are SCI-FI nerds? The trekkies and people who attend conventions?

[Phoenix Gamma]

Wasn't there already an editorial or something on the geek hierarchy?

[MLE]

FLAWED LIST

Nerds who are into discussing sociological issues, MATH PROBLEMS, and shit like that are less approachable than your casual, regular gamer.

Also, where are SCI-FI nerds? The trekkies and people who attend conventions?

Uh, yeah, it's flawed, which is why it was put op for discussion, jerkhead.

That's a matter of opinion on the intellectuals, but definetly needs to be considered. I think they're unapproachable to each other as a whole, and I don't know how to represent that in the list.

You bring up a good point with the Sci-fi nerds (Trekkies and the like), since they're different from Cosplayers, though I think not as bad. Everyone discuss.


PS - and phoenix gamma, I don't really care that much if there's another list somewhere else. IS and I just started making this up to keep me occupied on the drive home from work that day.

[Kybo Ren]

Go sci-fi nerds!! However we're not all equal- would you rather get stuck in an elevator with a semi-reasonable Wars fan like myself, or a soul devouring Stargate fan?

also Hitler better than gay pedophiles- but not hetero pedophiles

[Asila]

It might either be too out-of-date or too specific, but if you're just talking in terms of being irritating or nerdish--what about the people who build actual models (and not just the Warhammer ones?) I never realized that sticking plastic bits together with super glue could be taken so seriously.

[executioneer]

haha and model railroad people :o

[Otto]

I'd think us record collectors would go somewhere on there, but I think that we're more along the lines of elitist fucks or pretentious douchebags.

[Esuohlim]

What about fanfiction writers? I'd say they're in the blue group somewhere.

[Kybo Ren]

You gotta give model builders credit over collectors. It might seem stupid, but craftmanship takes some level of skill, where buying other peoples product just takes cash & availability.

however some collectors of specific variety deserve more respect than they get. Vinyl collectors good- Troll doll collectors way bad.

I want to give fanfiction writers props, but i've never read a good fanfiction

[ItalianStereotype]

I added fanfic writers to the list, but I'm holding off on things like model builders and such. I think people like kybo and asila are really calling the kettle black on this one and I want to get MLE's opinion.

[Fat_Hippo]

I've ever met any Vampire fags. Are they really that bad?

[MLE]

Yes, Vamp fags are that bad. Kybo, I moved your off-topic posts to the chatroom. Things like collectors and model builders really run the gamut of geeky to not geeky. I mean when I was a kid, I built a few model airplanes, and I could see how that could easily be a regular person's hobby. Also, collecting can be a regular person's hobby. I don't see a way to narrow this down without getting so specific that we're talking about only, like 5 people.

Sci-fi geeks are not just your average stuff (I like star wars/star trek), but the people buying modded light sabers and trekkie convention-goers.

Also, IS? Good placement on fanfic writers.

[Grislygus]

For a good example of just how awful fanfic writers are, please see the extensive Stargate SG1 fanfiction link I posted somewhere in the chat thread, it pretty much redefines gay

[Sethomas]

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/25784
(Written October 2001)

Quite sadly, this is rather plausible.

[Kitsa]

Where would you place SCA? They're kind of like LARPers but not really. I'm one hell of a history buff but SCAers kind of weird me out. I got cornered by one when she spotted some duplicate historical biographies I was selling at a garage sale. She started speaking to me in stilted Old English and invited me to some SCA function. I got out of the situation. SCA people just take themselves wayyyyyy too seriously. (If you don't believe me, look up your regional SCA website. The Kings and Queens (http://royals.sca-caid.org/60/) accept gifts of juice and doritos. Really.)

I also avoid RenFaires like the plague. (no pun intended) Have you noticed there are very few people who think they're reincarnated from peasants? Everyone was Queen Elizabeth I or Mary Queen of Scots or whoever else wore a big, fancy outfit.

I used to know a guy who was obsessed with Piers Anthony books and actually thought he was an ogre. He even spoke, irl, as he thought an ogre would. All the time. It didn't turn off.

Also, I always have a mental division between fanfic and erotic fanfic. Because erotic fanfic can get pretty weird.

[Fathom Zero]

As I was in line at midnight for GTA IV, the nerdness of most of the people there struck me greatly, mainly among all the privates. Occasionally, there was the hip dude I hang with, but all in all, NERDS.

[Kybo Ren]

People who dress like Characters on a day to day basis.

example: I'm in media play and I see a 90lbs wet dude decked out like Neo.
you wanna dress like Han Solo for a movie viewing or a party, cool. you spend everyday decked out as the chosen one you damn well better be able to back it up. you know what, it might be OK to do if you can back it up.

[Dommin]

The GameFAQs users are no more annoying than any other forum/site's members.

The /b/tards are definitely not as annoying as LARPers. And they come up with some really funny shit sometimes.

And where's the Anime fags? Or is that just lumped in with Manga? You should just call them japanophiles.

[Zomboid]

Sci-fi geeks are pretty much the most well known geeks, and for good reason. These are the people who wear star trek costumes to work, do star wars cosplaying while waiting in line for a movie, etc.

[MLE]

If they get to the point of cosplaying, then they're already in the Cosplaying section. I think that there's a place for die-hard Trekkies/Star Wars people, but I don't think it's below Cosplaying (since it encompasses both the sci-fi and the anime).

Also, I was thinking of renaming the fanfic writers to say erotic fanfic writers. Any complaints?

[Pub Lover]

What about self-inclusion fanfic?

Self-inclusion erotic fanfiction written by Mexican Paedophiles about Hitler, and posted on /b/

[MLE]

hahahahahaha

that's getting a little too narrow, and if we get that specific, this list is gonna get a lot bigger, and quickly. Any reason why this needs to be in, in specific? (I think that Erotic fanfic writers are the notorious ones, which is why I was considering the name change)

[Kitsa]

I have a category that might have been overlooked.

Broadway/musical theatre fanbois.

Yes, there are girls too, and every damn one of them thinks she's Eponine from Les Miserables, but my god are Broadway fangeeks insane.

I used to work at a piano store and toward the end of my time there, the boss hired this fanboi to work evenings with me. He was really kind of redundant and I don't even know why he was there because all he did was sit at the piano and pound out Andrew Lloyd Webber songs and sing in this bizarre falsetto. I have a voice degree but I don't randomly sing like that because I don't really have any delusions of grandeur, but he sure did. He'd sing whenever anyone was around to listen whether they wanted to or not.

So anyway, it was evening and we had this cranky, ancient concert pianist who gave the advanced lessons on those nights. He was all prima-donna and wanted to be treated like a star and one of his requirements was total silence in the store while he was giving lessons. Whatever, I never made any noise anyway, but this fanboi sat at one of the baby grands and started pounding out something from Miss Saigon or something and started singing one of the female leads' songs as loud as he possibly could in that damned obnoxious falsetto.

The piano teacher came charging out of his room and who did he head straight for? ME. He thought he was hearing a girl's voice. He started yelling at me about how I knew he required silence and blah blah blah and for my own information I wasn't that good from what he could tell and blahblahblah. I just stood there and said, "I never sing in the store. It was him." And there was fanboi in his Cats shirt sitting at the piano.

The teacher was so disgusted he just wheeled around and slammed back into his lesson room.

[darkvare]

mmm i can fell the love up in here

[Kitsa]

Well, at the time I was pissed off because I'd had it catering to this concert pianist all the time (he once gave me a Christmas card and told me to save it because it would be worth thousands of dollars when he died), only to have him come out and scream at me in front of the whole damn store about something I didn't even do.

[Chojin]

honestly I think that non-erotic fanfiction is worse than the naughty stuff because seriously, what incentive do you have to write that shit?

[Mockery]

Don't forget Protoclown's list :O

The Geek Hierarchy:
http://www.i-mockery.com/visionary/geek-hierarchy.php

There are some good suggestions in the comments area of the article too

[Chojin]

Heheh, yeah I said he also needed to add in the fitness/health geeks who know the EXACT calorie count of every piece of food they eat and wouldn't dare go over their daily intake allowance.

I did this for a couple weeks and am probably going to get back into it, since it showed me that I was taking in tons of sodium even though I was eating lots of low-fat stuff :o

I mean, fuck you :o

[Mockery]

NERD.

Nah, keeping up your fitness is great, but there are those people out there who LIVE for that shit and will talk to you about it any time you give them an opening. I don't care if you're not supposed to eat late at night... if I'm hungry at 2am, by god, I'm going to eat something rather than let my stomach eat itself. :O

[Tadao]

Don't forget to add Icelanders. They are worse than Mexicans. And change the title away from Geeks please. How about people who are to be loathed.

[Tadao]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/4/30/idontsemain128540630721718750.jpg

Red flagged by Milhouse, yet it made the list. :\

[MLE]

It's not on the list yet; no one has voiced an opinion on it after I asked about it.

[Tadao]

We'll it was enough for a redcard so it should be high on the list.

[MLE]

I didn't think it deserved a redcard, but that's just me. I thought you were just bringing it up.

[Tadao]

It's my only infraction point ever, so I'm not too worried about being banned lol.

[Rez]

i was wondering why /b/tards were so high on the list, considering their good moments are pretty hilarious (fox 11 special, anyone), and thought that at least they were better than furries or full time cosplayers

then i remembered that /b/tards constitute these and probably worse demographics

[Esuohlim]

I didn't think it deserved a redcard, but that's just me. I thought you were just bringing it up.

I HATE LOLCATS. HATE 'EM TO HELL.

I was just following through on giving warnings for seemingly non-sequitur internet memes. I had no idea that the "lolcat enthusiast" was an existing clique on the internet and I still refuse to believe it.

[MLE]

if it wasn't, icanhascheezburger would not have gotten literally thousands of applicants in one day for the position of rifling through the submissions and picking "good" ones to put up.

[WhiteRat]

I'm sure the lolcat coalition consists of fat secretaries and christian housewives.

[Guitar Woman]

Boo dekers.

[Trash]

/b/tards should be at the very bottom or not on the list at all, since they are a sulfuric cocktail of everything else on the list.

[BurntToShreds]

I play M:TG sometimes with my friends. Just for fun, though. I'm not some kind of deck-building psycho you'd see at a comic shop tournament.