2008 NFL Season

[WhiteRat]

HUGE EDIT: Scanned the forum and didn't notice the previous 2008 NFL thread until after I posted this. Feel free to delete I guess.

Training camp is only a month away so now is the time to switch gears from basketball and cricket to the upcoming NFL season. What are your expectations for your respective team? Which rookie(s) do you feel will have an immediate impact? Will Terrell Owens dance the Charleston atop a flagpole in Sheboygan, WI? What are the odds that Dennis Green enters and wins the annual Coney Island hot dog eating contest?

The bold and beautiful Vikings prediction - 11-5 with the NFC North crown and falling to the Cowboys in the NFC Championship game.

Super Bowl Champion - Dallas Cowboys

Offensive Rookie of the Year:
Darren McFadden - Raiders (provided he gets adequate carries in a crowded backfield)



Defensive Rookie of the Year:
Keith Rivers - Bengals

Forgotten Coach of the Year: Wayne Fontes

[Geggy]

My prediction? Considering how ridiculously easy the schedule will be for the pats in the upcoming season, the hatred and the incessent complaining toward the team will go from national to global. I think they will go 13-3 with the major adjustments on the defensive side with a lot of new and young players. I don't want to predict the postseason just yet.

And uuhh, I don't care about other teams.

[Pentegarn]

I don't see a 2008 NFL thread other than this one. There is a 2008 NFL draft thread, but that is different. So I say keep this thread as is.

[WhiteRat]

The Vikings "lost" to the Seahawks 34-17 tonight due to five fumbles and a lackluster Vikes D. Tarvaris Jackson played solid completing 8 out of 11 passes with some nice throws to Thomas Tapeh and Bernard Berrian. But dear god, apparently Brad Childress doesn't teach a little something called ball control.

[Pentegarn]

I thought Cleveland looked solid despite their preseason loss to the Jets. Anderson played quite well for the 2 or 3 series he played in throwing a touchdown and throwing no interceptions. Brady Quinn also did well throwing a touchdown and an interception. The recieving core looks polished for so early, though the 3rd and 4th string defense all but collapsed allowing the Jets to get the victory (not that that matters, I saw exactly what I wanted to see in the first half).

I can't wait to see what Cleveland does this year, I think they could make some serious noise this season.

EDIT: Because I didn't do it before when WhiteRat did his prediction, I will give my prediction for Cleveland's record. 12-4

[Colonel Flagg]

Eagles 3rd stringers lose a meaningless game to the Steelers, but McNabb played well for 1+ quarters and DeShaun Jackson caught 4 balls for 45 years. All in all a pretty good start to pre-season.

Eagles have always been enigmatic - never as bad as they look when they lose and never as good as they look when they win. And they usually do a lot of both. My prediction is 10-6 and maybe a wild-card berth.

[MattJack]

I'm gonna go with San Diego for the Super Bowl. I know a lot of folks don't rly give em much thought, but they have the tools to make it imo.

I don't see Dallas making it past the second round in the playoffs. I think Romo is slightly over rated (he's still good tho)imo, and I just don't see them doing it.

All this doesn't rly matter though cause we know dem Saints from da boot are gonna do it :p

[Pentegarn]

All this doesn't rly matter though cause we know dem Saints from da boot are gonna do it :p

I would really like to see the Saints get there. I have always been a Drew Brees fan since back when he played for Perdue

[WhiteRat]

Brett said today that his arm is "Fatigued" but not sore and wants to change his throwing schedule this camp. So, which week does Favre get injured and break his consecutive start streak? I say Week 7.

[Colonel Flagg]

Brett said today that his arm is "Fatigued" but not sore and wants to change his throwing schedule this camp.

And he's also "well-seasoned" and "experienced" not "old".

I think earlier, say week 4.

[WhiteRat]

Anyone else want in on this? Maybe whoever picks the right week of his injury can get a sweet custom Brett Favray Injury sig or something.

[Fathom Zero]

By the way, the cover of Madden 09 makes me laugh every time.

[WhiteRat]

EA has a new cover of Favre as a Jet which is available for download.

[MattJack]

Imma throw my hat in the ring and say week 4

[WhiteRat]

Looks like you and the Colonel are going to scratch and slap each other over who picks week 4.

[Fathom Zero]

Week 6.

[MattJack]

damnit, i missed what he said! OK i'm going week 5.

[MattJack]

Week 5 and with 5 interceptions by the end of that week.

[Pentegarn]

I want to play. i am going with the long shot and saying no injury

[WhiteRat]

So far we have myself at week 7, the Colonel at week 4, MattyPooh at 5, Fathom at week 6, and Pentagram says no dice on the injury. Anyone else?

[pac-man]

Week 14. He'll play through soreness and fatigue, but I think the Niners D will actually hurt that old man.

EDIT: How long before we see the Toronto Bills? If I was a Bills fan or a CFL fan I'd be pissed that this idea is being toyed with.

[WhiteRat]

If it was an expansion team, i'd be all for it. But as a fan of a small market team myself, I feel bad for the fans in Buffalo. So yeah, I'd be pretty pissed too.

[Colonel Flagg]

F. I. P. - the Favre Injury Pool. This gives us all a reason to pay attention to the Jets. :lol

[Dimnos]

I don't see Dallas making it past the second round in the playoffs. I think Romo is slightly over rated (he's still good tho)imo, and I just don't see them doing it.

Dont forget about our new boy Felix Jones. He is supposed to be the next Emmit. :rock

Oh and on the FIP i want week 8

[El Blanco]

Madden Curse hits week 11. The Jets o-line is good, but he's gonna frustrated at having no receivers and try to scramble out of the pocket or hold on too long for the o-line to protect him. Thats the week they play the Pats in New England.

By the way, Matt, week 5 is their bye week.

But, looking at the Jets schedule, it ain't half bad. All those sissy Western Division teams. They won't make the playoffs, but they'll be a factor until Favre's injury.

[MattJack]

DAMNIT

I want week 9

[Pentegarn]

Wait, is that a pick change? Or did you want a second pick?

WhiteRat, we need a call here :P

[El Blanco]

I say stay with your original pick. Favre may injure himself tripping over his dog while moving patio furniture or whatever that moron did. Plummer, I think.

[MattJack]

Wait, is that a pick change? Or did you want a second pick?

WhiteRat, we need a call here :P

I didn't realize that they had a bye that week ;_;

[WhiteRat]

I hereby authorize a switch for MattJack. The point of the FIP is to correctly choose when Brett gets injured during a game, not when he chokes on his wife's rather enormous penis during the bye week.

[WhiteRat]

Alarm klaxons are blaring as Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson injured his knee while scrambling against the Ravens tonight. Contrary to popular belief, I think this is a huge blow to the team if it ends up being a serious injury. Jackson had a very good camp and looked very sharp in his two appearances this exhibition season.

I do not want to see Gus Ferotte leading us to an 8-8 record.

[Pentegarn]

I think the Vikings have a better season than 8-8 to look forward to. More likely it will be 10-6, or if it goes really bad for them, 9-7.

[WhiteRat]

With Ferotte I think we 8-8, but it appears that Jackson only suffered a bruised knee which he should quickly recover from. Sticking with my previous prediction the Vikings should at least 11-5 and reach the NFC Championship game.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Going to the Bills home opener on sunday. To the Superbowl and beyond this year!!

[pac-man]

They're not having the Super Bowl in Toronto.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Coffee almost came out of my mouth on that one. We're keeping the Bills.....I hope.

[Ploxtrot]

So, who's rooting for Pennington against his former Jets tomorrow?

Being a Giants fan, I am.

[WhiteRat]

As a Jets fan i'm rooting for the Jets and as someone who owns Pennington in a fantasy league, i'm rooting for the Dolphins. BIZARRO.

[Colonel Flagg]

Jets win, Pennington looks (meh) average - about a 50/50 split for you, WR.

Eagles kicked some serious Ram Ass today. Hoorah! :rock

[WhiteRat]

It sounds like Brady has a torn acl, meaning he's done for the year. He was my starting qb on my fantasy team but no worries because i'll just plug Peyton into the starting lineup. Suckers!

[pac-man]

Boston's reign of terror over the sporting world is almost over.

[WhiteRat]

Yeah, we just Garnett to sucker punch another player in practice and David Ortiz to eat the rest of his team.

[ScruU2wice]

hester has to stop trying to take it out of the endzone. he almost got a safety in the pre-season and he doesn't really have the grip of a c-clamp which makes the chances of him fumbling on the one yard line too possible. Plus everyone in that stadium knew when he didn't take a knee that he was gonna try to pull some thing like that.

:x

[pac-man]

Yeah, that shit wasn't cute or clever; however, the dude is lethal in the open field and until his mistakes outweigh his production nobody will tell him to knock it off.

[MattJack]

It sounds like Brady has a torn acl, meaning he's done for the year. He was my starting qb on my fantasy team but no worries because i'll just plug Peyton into the starting lineup. Suckers!


What dumb shits are in your league? How did you get BOTH Manning and Brady?

[pac-man]

Brady is done for the year. Defensive coordinators around the league owe Bernard Pollard dinner.

[Pentegarn]

The Bears (or Da Bears! Depending from where you come from) surprised me last night handling the Colts like children.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Once again Go Bills! Did anyone see their trick field goal touchdown pass? Amazing.

[ScruU2wice]

yeah while they were up by 10, kinda weak if you ask me.

[WhiteRat]

What dumb shits are in your league? How did you get BOTH Manning and Brady?

Funny story, I actually slept in for the first 3 rounds and when I logged onto espn the computer had taken Brady and Manning for me in the first two rounds. I guess people were scared off by their lack of preseason playing time.

[ScruU2wice]

really not that funny of a story

[pac-man]

To ESPN:

Replace Kornheiser, Tirico, and Jawrorski with Golic, Greenberg, and Ditka full time. The former group is annoying and bickers too much (especially Kornheiser) while the latter sounded like 3 guys at a bar talking shit about the losing team, which was funny.

Thank you.

[WhiteRat]

really not that funny of a story

Thanks toots for that but it's a figure of speech.

[Fathom Zero]

Poor poor Tom. I pity whoever picked him, fantasy-wise.

On a personal note, I wish his knee would've just exploded in an eruption of blood, bone, and cartilage.

[Pentegarn]

To ESPN:

Replace Kornheiser, Tirico, and Jawrorski with Golic, Greenberg, and Ditka full time. The former group is annoying and bickers too much (especially Kornheiser) while the latter sounded like 3 guys at a bar talking shit about the losing team, which was funny.

Thank you.

Seems most people don't like Kornheiser. Makes me glad I don't have cable

[Ploxtrot]

Seems most people don't like Kornheiser. Makes me glad I don't have cable
Most people don't watch PTI. >:

[pac-man]

You know, the footage they show of the Tom Brady injury doesn't really look that bad. I mean, I'd seen worse. But check out this angle:

http://withleather.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/brady-knee2.jpg

I almost feel bad for the SOB after looking at that, but he's boning Giselle, so I don't.

[Geggy]

:tear

I think the pats will still make it to the playoffs as a wild card team with the easy schedule they have this season.

Its not like tom brady is THE patriots, ya know?

[pac-man]

Yes, the Patriots will still go to the postseason. Belichick is a genius.

I'm just glad Tom's mommy or girlfriend isn't making statements and proclamations for him.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1220/fantasy_a_simpson_sq_300.jpg
"We're gonna kick their butts"!?!? You're not kicking shit so shut the fuck up and look pretty.

[WhiteRat]

So who thinks that Adrian Peterson is going to run for 170+ yards on the Colds D?

[Pentegarn]

So who thinks that Adrian Peterson is going to run for 170+ yards on the Colds D?

Most of the experts seem to :lol

[Pentegarn]

It is really hard being a Browns fan :(

[El Blanco]

Hey, did you guys know that New York has 2 teams? Apparently the one not getting all the attention are the Superbowl champs.

And they continued their road winning streak pummeling the Rams.

Also, I had Darren McFadden and Isaac Bruce on my bench and still managed to put foot to ass in fantasy this week.

[Geggy]

"Kick a couple of field goals and we'll take care of the rest" -Patriots defense

[Colonel Flagg]

And they continued their road winning streak pummeling the Rams.

Actually, the game was still in doubt early in the second half, as the Sheep were only down 7 points, but that's when that Giant D-FENS took charge of the game. Which is precisely the way they won the Super Bowl.

[El Blanco]

Well, also the ball control by the offense. The Giants will forever be a running team and that usually doesn't bust games open in the first quarter. Eli played mistake free, if highlight free, football.

[WhiteRat]

It is really hard being a Browns fan :(

I feel your pain, brotha, I feel your pain.

[Pentegarn]

Hey, did you guys know that New York has 2 teams? Apparently the one not getting all the attention are the Superbowl champs.

And they continued their road winning streak pummeling the Rams.

Also, I had Darren McFadden and Isaac Bruce on my bench and still managed to put foot to ass in fantasy this week.

To be perfectly frank and with no disrespect to the other NY team, the Giants are the only NY football team worthy of my attention. That other team has a sideshow and no real substance.

[Dimnos]

:rockAnyone see my boy Felix last night? With that 98 yard return? :rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvL0fe91Kc

[WhiteRat]

The Vikings have benched Tarvaris Jackson for the year and have decided to go with 37 year old journey man Gus Ferotte.

Oh Chilly, when will you learn that your horrid play calling is the reason why the Vikings will never amount to anything?

[pac-man]

It's not like benching TJ will hurt them, though.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

To be perfectly frank and with no disrespect to the other NY team, the Giants are the only NY football team worthy of my attention. That other team has a sideshow and no real substance.


Best be talking about the Jets!

[pac-man]

If you ever wanted to get an e-mail from NFL referee Ed Hercules (Hochuli) now's the time. He's been answering hate-mail all week so there's a good chance if you send him something he'll reply. I actually kinda feel bad for the strong bastard. According the ESPN article below, he's "devastated."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3596289

If he or his crew screw up in B-more this weekend, he can certainly expect another full inbox Monday. If it weren't for the refs last year, we'd have taken the Browns at home (granted the field goal was good).

[WhiteRat]

The Vikings beat the Panthers 20-10 due to 15 Gus Ferotte touchdowns. Nah, seriously though, he managed the game well and played well enough to get the first win of the season. I'm curious to see if he will be able to hold up for the entire season.

[pac-man]

He'll get a nice test next week with the Titans D bearing down on him.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Let's go Bills! bu-bu-bu-bu-bills!

[WhiteRat]

I've been pimping Trent Edwards since college and now my e-penis is getting bigger with each of his completions!

[Colonel Flagg]

The Vikings beat the Panthers 20-10 due to 15 Gus Ferotte touchdowns.

I remember Gus way back when he played for the 'skins - he must be playing with a walker by now.

Frerotte has the most mispelled name in football, after Manu Tuiasasopo. :lol

[pac-man]

Yeah, Gus is pretty old, but the guy who I'm surprised to see getting the starting nod is Trent Green. Last time I saw him he was strapped to a gurney. And I think Manumaleuna has to be pretty high on the mispelled/mispronounced list.

[WhiteRat]

Lions fans' wildest dreams came true....
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/09/24/millen.ap/index.html

[Colonel Flagg]

And I think Manumaleuna has to be pretty high on the mispelled/mispronounced list.

Pretty much any player from Samoa. :)

[Colonel Flagg]

Lions fans' wildest dreams came true.

What took them so fucking long? 31-84 over the past 7+ years - that record blows dead monkey balls. How many half-way decent coaches got fired before Ford finally figured out that Millen was the problem?

Moron.

[WhiteRat]

What took them so fucking long?

Moron.

Too much carbon monoxide to the brain maybe?

[Pentegarn]

I will miss Millen though. Not because I thought he was an effective GM, or even an average GM> I will miss him because he gave me one of my all time favorite sports talk radio drops. When he was pounding his fist on a table or a podium or whatever it was saying "Whatever it takes to get us to win, you do!" and he hit the table with every word. About a week after he did it it was on the Jim Daniels show as a drop and was making me laugh constantly because it was dropped every time someone hit a table or podium.

[WhiteRat]

Care to share that drop Penty Boy?

[Colonel Flagg]

I will miss Millen though. Not because I thought he was an effective GM, or even an average GM> I will miss him because he gave me one of my all time favorite sports talk radio drops.

Whatever else he was - idiot, egomaniac, bully - he was also a master of unitentional comedy. We'll always have his sound bites.

[Pentegarn]

Care to share that drop Penty Boy?

I have searched it out for years (since Jason Smith and the sound guy they had [Rodriguez I believe]left that show) and still haven't found it :(

Is has become my Holy Graile of sound drops

[El Blanco]

Wait, drafting over rated wide receivers first every season isn't a sound strategy?

[pac-man]

To be fair, in '02 they wasted their first pick on an overrated quarterback.

[WhiteRat]

Don't forget Kevin Jones, he did a whole lot of nothing.

[Colonel Flagg]

Fuck Andy Reid. Anytime a team has the ball on the 1 yard line and can't punch it in, the coaching staff is to blame about 90% of the time. They deserved to get spanked last night. >:

[Colonel Flagg]

I have searched it out for years [...] and still haven't found it :(

And now you have all of us sports nerds looking for it too. :\

I found the entire quotation, which admittedly is very humorous, but without the sound effects, it just kind of "lays there".

Incidentally, Marty Mornhinweg (OC for the Eag's) was asked to describe his reaction upon hearing of MM's sacking. He said that it was "the way things go in this business" and that "beyond this I have no comment". He should run for president. :lol

[WhiteRat]

Of course he has no comment. Mornhinweg or whatever the fuck he wants to be called was hired by that bum Millen and was subsequently canned after 2 TERRIBLE years. I heard a story a while back about how he elected to kick off after winning the OT toss. Naturally, the other team drove down the field and kicked a game winner.

The moral of the story is that Marty is the greatest man alive.

[Dirge]

Of course he has no comment. Mornhinweg or whatever the fuck he wants to be called was hired by that bum Millen and was subsequently canned after 2 TERRIBLE years. I heard a story a while back about how he elected to kick off after winning the OT toss. Naturally, the other team drove down the field and kicked a game winner.

The moral of the story is that Marty is the greatest man alive.


If i remember correctly, he said afterwards he choose to kick b/c of the wind or some such shit. tatical genius this guy

[Colonel Flagg]

Another coaching genius used that argument after losing a game due to choosing the "wind" over the "ball" so don't be too hard on Marty - he's in elite company.

Rich Kotite

[WhiteRat]

God bless the greatest coach in NFL history:

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q15/JerkDouglas/351861.jpg

[pac-man]

I miss those coats. But not Kotite.

[Colonel Flagg]

One of my favorite Richie the K stories goes something like this:

Rainy afternoon, miserable conditions, game coming down to the wire and the Eagles were down by 10. They scored a touchdown, and, inexplicably, Rich decides to "go for 2". THey blow it, and wind up getting the ball back, with no time-outs (naturally) only to drive down to within field goal range as time expires.

When asked about the decision after the game he stated "My laminated sheet got wet and I misread whether I should go for 1 or 2 in that situation."

Even now, after all these years, that still gives me an upset stomach.

[WhiteRat]

So no one on his staff bothered (if they even knew) to give him a heads up?

[Pentegarn]

I found the entire quotation, which admittedly is very humorous, but without the sound effects, it just kind of "lays there".

Truer words were never spoken, it has zero pop without hearing him say it while pounding the podium.

I found the quote once myself and go tall excited but there was no video to accompany it so then I was sad.

Guess I will have to have this to meet my podium abuse needs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQfiZNOPQ20

It's no Matt Millen podium pound, but there is a bit of podium abuse in the beginning :P

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

So fucking pissed. My t.v. provider isn't carrying any football anymore because they couldn't reach an agreement with the channel who carries it. I have to find a bar to go to on sunday that has DISH.

[Colonel Flagg]

That sucks hairy dead monkey balls.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

We ended up going to my friends father's office to watch it in a conference meeting room. The executive type with leather chairs all around and fancy table. Awesome. T. Edwards gets killed in the first 5 minutes. My friend cheers because he loves J.P. Losman. I felt like crying inside and then throwing a brick.

[WhiteRat]

I know i'm a few days late here but damn was that a great MNF game. I'll admit, the Saints got a raw deal with non-call face mask on the Bush fumble but Gramattica miffed a kick to go ahead at the end, so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy. Once again though Reggie Bush proves all the nay-sayers wrong by easily returning 2 punts for touchdowns. He may not be an every down back but he is the most electrifying player in the league.

[Geggy]

Looks like adam jones has gotten hisself in trouble with the law once again. Can we go back to calling him "pacman" jones yet?

[pac-man]

I never stopped.

His timing is impeccable. Terrance Newman is gonna be out due a sports hernia and T.O. is starting to stand for Team Obliterator again. Tough luck, Cowboys.

[El Blanco]

He got into a shouting match with a body guard. No charges were filed. Everybody kissed and made nice.

the best part was he was heading out to a team meeting with Goddell.

[pac-man]

He'll still get suspended for a game or two. Jerry Jones and the Commish both told him to keep his nose clean. The only reason the bodyguard didn't press charges is that he was hired by the Cowboys to look after Pacman (no relation).

[Pentegarn]

I can't help but think had he took the nickname Gorf instead he wouldn't have been such a thug

[Colonel Flagg]

NFC East took a few hits today - Dallas losing to the Cards (?) in OT and the Rams (!) getting their first victory of the season against the Redskins. Plus the Eagles defense singlehandedly (almost) won the game against the Niners.

Anyone betting on the Browns Monday night?

[WhiteRat]

Uh...no.

Brad Childress needs to get hit by a car. How in the living fuck do we ONLY beat the hapless incompetent Lions 12-10?!?! At one point we were down 10-2! Has there ever been a coach that has done so little with so much (talent and especially money)? I can't wait till he gets canned and Bill Cowher takes over.

[El Blanco]

Wow, what a weekend. Admittedly, I'm a little nervous about tonight. The Giants played piss poor and barely beat Cinci. Not a lot of difference between the Bengals and Browns.

Coughman probably won't let that happen again, but still, shit happens.

[pac-man]

The Giants saw what happened to Dallas and Washington yesterday. They'll steamroll the Browns just for good measure.

[MattJack]

lulz @ Dallas yesterday

Saints hurt feelings yesterday too.

As far as Saints v Vikings. I don't even want to talk about it

[WhiteRat]

I'll give you the facemask non-call on Bush. I'll admit that was shit. Bush doesn't trip on his third return and you guys come out on top. Teach Bush how to not trip or something.

[pac-man]

I think officiating this year so far has been piss poor. The whistle blow in the Broncs/Chargers game, the facemask no-call in the Vikes/Saints game, the roughing the passer in the Titans/Ravens game, the pass interference call in the Lions/Vikes game yesterday, and a number of other calls/non-calls have affected the outcome of games. It's pathetic.

Oh, and :lol at Tony Romo.

[Colonel Flagg]

Spot on comment on the abysmal officiating. It doesn't matter if the calls go your way, in the end, everyone loses. What are the refs smoking out there, anyway?

[Colonel Flagg]

I can't believe I missed this one. After Romo is walking around with a mammoth bandage around his pinkie, the reporters for ESPN were milling around the Cowboy locker room, looking for comments from players. They got a doozy from T.O.:

Receiver Terrell Owens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1056) refused comment, getting agitated when he saw cameras recording him.
"Today is not Wednesday," he said, referring to the day he routinely talks to reporters.

I see a major tantrum on the horizon.

[El Blanco]

That game last night was awful. The Giants were completely unprepared. Manning got no protection, and he made terrible decisions. The secondary looked like a bunch of high schoolers.

[El Blanco]

I think officiating this year so far has been piss poor. The whistle blow in the Broncs/Chargers game, the facemask no-call in the Vikes/Saints game, the roughing the passer in the Titans/Ravens game, the pass interference call in the Lions/Vikes game yesterday, and a number of other calls/non-calls have affected the outcome of games. It's pathetic.

Oh, and :lol at Tony Romo.

what about when Tony Romo had that fumble called back because he tucked it in? Shouldn't that have been a safety anyway?

[pac-man]

Did the NFC East have a meeting on Saturday and agree to make everybody who says they're really good look stupid? Actually, I'm glad Tennessee sits alone as the sole undefeated.

[Sam]

I told everyone at my work that the Browns were going to take the Giants, and no one believed me. >:

[Colonel Flagg]

Hey Jerry! Jerry Jones! Yeah, you with the poor player personnel judgement.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643240

Fucking dirtbag.

EDIT: Article excerpt - "I'd like to see him intensify his approach to getting better with his social conduct," Jerry Jones told ESPN.com.

Is he fucking serious? What a douche.

[pac-man]

Actually that's an indefinite (hopefully lifelong) suspension now. Not the worry, though, the addition of certified bust Roy Williams will really bolster that offense. But seriously Dallas is approaching Oakland levels of dysfunction.

[WhiteRat]

Certified bust? He's averaging 61 rec. a year and had 80+ in 06. Above average player maybe, but hardly a bust.

[Colonel Flagg]

But seriously Dallas is approaching Oakland levels of dysfunction.
I speak for Eagle, Giant and Redskin fans everywhere when I say

:aok

[WhiteRat]

It appears that Romo will play sunday after all, thus sparing Brad Johnson's knees the agony of actually having to move out of the pocket.

[pac-man]

A guy like Romo who is renown for his strong grip should be fine sans a pinky finger. :lol

[WhiteRat]

It's not polite to laugh at your own zings!

[Colonel Flagg]

Hey Pac-Man, I was wondering if you were going to use Re's cupcake for your avatar. Glad to see I was right!

[pac-man]

It's not polite to laugh at your own zings!

Tony's laughing with me.

Hey Pac-Man, I was wondering if you were going to use Re's cupcake for your avatar. Glad to see I was right!

I've got the most delicious avatar on this forum. Thanks Re!

[Colonel Flagg]

Rams 34; Cowboys 14 :lol

Owner Jerry Jones admitted after the game that he thought the Cowboys had enough to beat the Rams despite Romo's injury and the suspension of cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones. Adding to the woes, Jones said after the game that safety Roy Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3536) would miss the rest of the season after breaking his right forearm for the second time.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: What a douchebag.

[Colonel Flagg]

Eagles got a gift today on a bad "muffed punt" call by the refs at the "Linc" against the Falcons. Not to say the Falcons would have won, but they would have had a chance. As it was, the Eags were able to run out the clock.

Cheap win - their offense still sucks - unable to punch it in again from the one-yard line. 3 of the last 4 games now. Coach Reid "We'll have to work on that." Yeah, right.

[El Blanco]

Jeez, can the Giants find someone to play in the secondary? That game was way too close.

[pac-man]

Pro Bowl voting is open. Who are you sending?

[pac-man]

This game is over (31-14 with 3:31 left). The Titans are for real. Just like the Ravens back in 2000 or the Bears back in 1986, this team is predicated on ball control and defense. Hands down the best team in the NFL right now.

[El Blanco]

Kerry Collins is also a pretty decent QB. Not very mobile but a cannon for an arm and he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. A few years ago, he was probably the only guy that threw as hard as Favre. No one knew it because he didn't air it out as much or throw as many picks.

[pac-man]

Yeah, dude. Everybody likes to label him as a "game manager," but the guy took the Panthers to the NFC Championship as a league sophomore and he led the Giants to the Super Bowl (passing for 5 TDs in the NFC Championship game). Unfortunate stints in New Orleans and Oakland notwithstanding, he's every bit the passer that Warner, Favre, or any of the old dogs are at this point.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Pro Bowl voting is open. Who are you sending?


Rian Lindell and Brian Moorman - Special Teams

[WhiteRat]

he led the Giants to the Super Bowl (passing for 5 TDs in the NFC Championship game).

I watched every single second of that god forsaken game. The worst CB in the history of football, Waswra Serwanga, got his ass stuffed in his own mouth by Toomer and the rest of the Giants DBs.

Yet another great coaching job by Denny Green.

[pac-man]

Pro Bowl voting is open. Who are you sending?

Joey Porter, Terrell Suggs (both AFC,) and Demarcus Ware (NFC) outside linebackers.

[El Blanco]

Santana Moss and Anquon Boldin at WR for the NFC.

After Clinton Portis, I can't think of any NFC runningbacks that are having monster years.

Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees at QB.

Philip Rivers and Big Ben at QB for the AFC.

[Pentegarn]

Samuari Mike is now my new favorite coach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB5-yJM3vJc

[pac-man]

I look forward to that becoming a Coors Light commercial.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Can someone explain this penalty to me? Bills punted the ball. It DID NOT go out of bounds but near it. The Jets receiver stepped out of bounds, kept one foot out and then touched the ball and the Bills get a penalty for it. Jets get the ball on the 40 yard line. That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

[Pentegarn]

Dear Cleveland,

Way to keep the Browns Broncos 4th quarter tradition alive!

Warmest regards,

The Drive and The Fumble

[Colonel Flagg]

I had hopes that the Eag's could pull this one out. Unfortunately, the game started.

I could rail about the missed calls and the blown on-field replay reversal, but let's face it - they got flat-out beat. I know the ownership has a love affair with coach Reid, but really, has the game passed him by? The Giants beat them, not in the air, but by

RUNNING
THE
FOOTBALL

Why is it so hard for Reid to see that with Westbrook and Buckhalter (and McNabb?) he could essentially do the same thing, rather than have McNabb throw incomplete passes on first and third downs. >:

[McClain]

NY is a pretty solid machine at this point. I don't see a lot of opposition. Where was the Brian Dawkins Flying Eagle tackle this time around? I would have liked to see that one.

My Colts are on the incline... Just beat NE and now the Steelers. Indy averages about 4 losses per season. Looks like they got them all out of the way in the beginning of the season?

I'm glad Minn beat GB. Peterson is a friggin' beast. He's my new fantasy fav. Buh-bye Bob Sanders.

And lol @ Grossman. A dollar short and a day late. He's in a perpetual state of BOOOOO at Soldier Field now.

[Geggy]

The pats are having a similiar injury-plagued season as the red sox did last season starting with tom brady then laurence maroney, rodney harrison and now adilus thomas may be out for the season with a shoulder injury yet they've managed to win 6 out of 9 games so far. They would have been 7-2 hadn't gaffney dropped the easy pass for a touchdown in the last minutes against the colts couple of weeks ago.

[McClain]

The same could be said for a myriad of teams that won/lost by a small margin.

The entire Indy season could be a loss, but as long as we beat the Pats I consider the season a success. It's Belichick and the loudmouth "Bastan" fans, man. I like Brady and wished he was there so we wouldn't have to hear all the "yeah, you beat the Pats w/out Brady" arguments. And people were ready to recycle that argument for the Steelers, but it looks like we prevailed regardless.

NE is a good sports town lately. If one major team fails, at least you have contenders in the remaining sports. No major league teams for Hoosiers. Cubs 'cause they're the closest. Not much to say about the Pacers lately. GO COLTS.

[WhiteRat]

I'm glad Minn beat GB. Peterson is a friggin' beast.

Yes, that was a much needed win. Childress better get down on his knees and blow AP because he single handedly saved ChromeDome's job once again.

[Colonel Flagg]

I need to cleanse my palate after that image. :x

[pac-man]

Childress may need to cleanse his palate as well.

[Colonel Flagg]

:lol

[pac-man]

Who here gets the NFL Network? This is some bullshit. I'll have to make a 90 minute round tripper if I want to see tonight's game.

[Colonel Flagg]

Andy Reid should take a swim in a pool of urine and spunk. That would be uglier than the Eagles-Bengals game, but only just. :maul

[Colonel Flagg]

I just love this - Ladies and Gentlemen, the starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, 10-year veteran Donovan McNabb:

"I've never been a part of a tie. I never even knew that was in the rule book," McNabb said after the game. "It's part of the rules, and we have to go with it. I was looking forward to getting the opportunity to get out there and try to drive to win the game. But unfortunately, with the rules, we settled with a tie."

"I guess we're aware of [the rule] now," McNabb said. "In college, there are multiple overtimes, and in high school and Pop Warner. I never knew in the professional ranks it would end that way. I hate to see what would happen in the Super Bowl and in the playoffs."

Moron.

[Pentegarn]

I just love this - Ladies and Gentlemen, the starting quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles, 10-year veteran Donovan McNabb:

"I've never been a part of a tie. I never even knew that was in the rule book," McNabb said after the game. "It's part of the rules, and we have to go with it. I was looking forward to getting the opportunity to get out there and try to drive to win the game. But unfortunately, with the rules, we settled with a tie."

"I guess we're aware of [the rule] now," McNabb said. "In college, there are multiple overtimes, and in high school and Pop Warner. I never knew in the professional ranks it would end that way. I hate to see what would happen in the Super Bowl and in the playoffs."

Moron.

Roughly translated McNabb really meant, "Damn, maybe I should have tried to win that game instead of throwing 3 interceptions" :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

Roughly translated McNabb really meant, "Damn, maybe I should have tried to win that game instead of throwing 3 interceptions" :lol

Naah, roughly translated - "I should have been a lawyer, like Mama wanted."

[Sam]

Oh well, at least he can always sell Campbells Thick and Chunky. :(

[WhiteRat]

I know it's almost a week late, but it is unexcusable for Childress to not put the ball in Adrian Peterson's hands at least once in the 4th quarter against Tampa. He is the best RB in football and single handedly carried the team in the 4th against Green Bay. Quote the Keyshawn, give him the damn ball!

Gotta love disgraced former Vikings and now Jaguars WR Troy Williamson threatening to fight Brad Childress at the 50 yard line this weekend. What a hoser.

[pac-man]

I think Childress will put up a helluva fight.

[WhiteRat]

If Williamson throws punches as well as he catches, then yes, Childress should have no problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81gpKrIicjU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wra8IDDF_dM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WZNyYouzuk&feature=related

[Colonel Flagg]

I know I've said this before, but those are some of the most spectacular non-catches ever seen in professional football. What does he use on his hands, 30-weight motor oil?

[WhiteRat]

The idiot even went to a "Nike Vision Camp" and caught over 20,000 balls in the 2007 off season and still couldn't catch shit.

[Colonel Flagg]

"Nike Vision Camp"? :lol

Can this guy catch a cold?

[WhiteRat]

I'm not sure. After all, he does only have 4 receptions this year.

[pac-man]

Why am I convinced that the Chargers will win the AFC West?

[Colonel Flagg]

I'm glad the Eagles got trounced today. Two consecutive losing seasons will convince TPTB that changes need to be made. At the QB position and within the coaching staff. Maybe at the top? ;)

Mr. Chunky's line - 8/18 for 59 yards, 2 INT's, 0 TD's, 7 yds rushing and 1 fumble - a QB rating of an astonishing 13.3.

Post-game faux quotation - "I didn't realize that I was supposed to complete passes to MY guys too!"

[pac-man]

The '72 Dolphins are popping the corks on their champagne. Nice run by the Titans, I never would've figured them to be the last unbeaten team when the season opened.

[WhiteRat]

We'll gladly take McNabb off your hands. We'll trade you Chestor Taylor and a 3rd round pick.

The Vikes made mince meat out of the Jaguars. Ol' Rickety Bones Gus was battered the whole game but the ol' bastard kept coming back for more. In case anyone hasn't noticed by now, Antoine Winfield is a beast.

[Colonel Flagg]

He needs a change of scenery. I'd look for nothing less than a second rounder, if I was Banner, though.

Personally, you can have Reid too - a package deal. :x

Incidentally, concerning the Vikes win, did "Cement-hands" even get into the game?

[WhiteRat]

No, I never saw him on the field.

[McClain]

Someone explain to me why they even chose to bench Peterson? Two series on the pine adequate for trying to send a message? Because the message I got was, "Adrian Peterson shouldn't be benched. Ever."

And I have another message:



COLTS STEAMROLL UPCOMING OPPONENTS (including loltitans) TO FINISH WITH THEIR STANDARD 12-4 SEASON WITH PLAYOFF APPEARANCE, TOO.

Easiest schedule remains. See ya' in the playoffs.

[pac-man]

Someone explain to me why they even chose to bench Peterson? Two series on the pine adequate for trying to send a message? Because the message I got was, "Adrian Peterson shouldn't be benched. Ever."

And I have another message:



COLTS STEAMROLL UPCOMING OPPONENTS (including loltitans) TO FINISH WITH THEIR STANDARD 12-4 SEASON WITH PLAYOFF APPEARANCE, TOO.

Easiest schedule remains. See ya' in the playoffs.

If they beat the Titans it'll be because Fisher decides to rest his stars. They do have a cakewalk schedule for the next 4 weeks, though.

[El Blanco]

So, anyone else looking forward to a Jets-Giants Super Bowl.

[pac-man]

God no.

[El Blanco]

Yes, oh, yes.

Personally, I really want the Giants to end the Titans' undefeated season. But, now that that nonsense is over, I figure why the hell not the Jets.

[pac-man]

There's only one outcome that will be more disappointing than an all NYC Superbowl, and that's if the Cowboys and Patriots stay hot and make it all the way.

[El Blanco]

OK, that was just disgusting. And how can you say the Pats will "stay hot" when they lost to the Jets last week?

[pac-man]

They're not streaking, but at 7-4 with a quarterback that is on fire and arguably the best head coach in the NFL, I'd say they're a contender.

[pac-man]

The way this season's been, I wouldn't be surprised if it ended with a Panthers-Broncos Superbowl (or something similarly unlikely).

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

If the superbowl ended up being Dallas against New England I can wholeheartedly say I wouldn't watch it.

[Pentegarn]

If the superbowl ended up being Dallas against New England I can wholeheartedly say I wouldn't watch it.

Don't think you'll have to worry about that. :lol

[pac-man]

Yesterday's games were detestable.

[WhiteRat]

True, but what I find more detestable than anything on this great green earth of ours is that fucking Daunte Culpepper is starting for the Lions.

[pac-man]

I can't wait until they finish 0-16. Culpepper should have swallowed his pride and signed as a back up on a good team (like Byron Leftwich) rather than "retiring" like a little bitch. I'd rather ride pine with the Steelers than start with the Lions any day of the week.

[WhiteRat]

I'm convinced that the only reason why he would play for Detroit is that he gets to start against the team that dumped him off like the bum he is; Minnesota.

[Colonel Flagg]

Vikes, Colts, Saints and Packers - I don't see a win among these four games. 0-16 is more than just a possibility for the Loins.

[Muscle_Bomber_Uno]

Ravens rule!

I think so, at least.

[pac-man]

Ravens rule!

I think so, at least.

Agreed. Sucks that they're finishing schedule is rough and they're still not 100% healthy. Gotta give a lot of credit to John Harbaugh.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Going to the Bills game tomorrow. We better win.

[Muscle_Bomber_Uno]

Agreed. Sucks that they're finishing schedule is rough and they're still not 100% healthy. Gotta give a lot of credit to John Harbaugh.

Well, we have an easy game against the Bungles today.

The one game I can't wait for is when the Ravens play the Redskins. I say this because at my school, all the Redskins fans are always talking about how better they are than the Ravens. They should start worrying about the NFC East before they slam the Ravens, because there's no way in hell the Redskins are going to beat the Giants at this rate. Then start worriyng about the Ravens and how badly they are going to get crushed.

[Colonel Flagg]

[The 'Skins] should start worrying about the NFC East before they slam the Ravens, because there's no way in hell the Redskins are going to beat the Giants at this rate.

No one in the East holds a candle to the Giants this year. :( They just take care of bi'ness every week (except to the Browns) and don't let the distractions (Plaxico shot himself? Big whoop.) get in the way of their prep for the next game.

They play the Beagles next - I fully expect a Class A ass-whuppin'. >:

[pac-man]

Jeez, man... Adrian Peterson is just plain better than everybody else. He just had a run that was damn near identical to one Barry Sanders had.

[WhiteRat]

Rickety Bonez Gus Frerotte toss a 99 yarder to Berrian to put the Vikes up by 10. Who know the ol' grizzled bastard still had it in him.

[pac-man]

To be fair the cornerback decided that Berrian didn't warrant coverage. But after being knocked unconscious by a late hit (where the hell was the flag!?) it was good to know that Gus still had all of his faculties.

[Colonel Flagg]

Jeez, man... Adrian Peterson is just plain better than everybody else.

No kidding - 100 yards by halftime against the league's 5th best rush defense. Remind me again why the Vikes are only 6-5?

[WhiteRat]

To be fair the cornerback decided that Berrian didn't warrant coverage. But after being knocked unconscious by a late hit (where the hell was the flag!?) it was good to know that Gus still had all of his faculties.

Fairness or not, that's the biggest play we've had all year. Aside from AP and his greatness, we haven't had any real big plays at all, thanks to Childress, Darren Bevell, and their "kick ass" offense.

[pac-man]

Well, you guys got the number 1 spot in your division now. Congrats.

[WhiteRat]

Feel free to hold me this statement, but I have a feeling that the Vikings are firing things up at the right time much like the Giants last year. I hope that is the case because if the Vikings ever won the conference crown I would take a shit on a plate and post a pic of it here.

[pac-man]

lol... just NSFW tag the pic... please.

[El Blanco]

I know the Giants won and all, but I still want to complain about the refs.

They flag Corey Webster for illegal contact and nullify his interception, the next play the 'skins score a touchdown. Apparently, it is illegal for a CB to touch the ball, because didn't lay a finger on the wideout.

Then, Deangelo Hall puches off hixon's head and pulls in Eli's pass and there isn't a peep from the refs.

[pac-man]

I think officiating this year so far has been piss poor.

I stand by this statement. Late (and looked to be helmet-to-helmet) hit on Frerotte goes uncalled. The flag on Webster was just mystifying. Doesn't matter if the team is winning or wins, the refs should get the calls right.

[Colonel Flagg]

They flag Corey Webster for illegal contact and nullify his interception, the next play the 'skins score a touchdown. Apparently, it is illegal for a CB to touch the ball, because didn't lay a finger on the wideout.

I saw the exact same call against Joselio Hanson on (I think) Larry Fitzgerald in the AZ/PHI game. It should have been 4th and goal, instead it was 1st and goal from the 1. Bad refs are a plague on the league.

Hey, I just agreed with El Blanco - the world just stopped rotating. :p

[El Blanco]

I think they all decided to suck ass after Eddie Guns blew that call in the Broncos Chargers game earlier this season so he wouldn't look like a total asshole.

Or their collective gambling debts have gotten out of control and they need to secure some wins.

[Colonel Flagg]

:lol

[WhiteRat]

I know this has been touched on lightly but today a federal judge blocked the suspensions of 5 players that tested positive for a banned diuretic:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/12/04/nfl.ap/index.html

This is huge for the Vikings has Pro Bowl DLs Kevin and Pat Williams would be greatly missed had they been suspended.

[Pentegarn]

I know this has been touched on lightly but today a federal judge blocked the suspensions of 5 players that tested positive for a banned diuretic:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/12/04/nfl.ap/index.html

This is huge for the Vikings has Pro Bowl DLs Kevin and Pat Williams would be greatly missed had they been suspended.

Jim Rome's theory is that they did it because all of America wants the Lions to run the table in reverse

[WhiteRat]

Nice.

Rome has been pretty brutal to the Lions this year. Not that they don't deserve it.

[Colonel Flagg]

Can the Loins make history?

[WhiteRat]

They almost beat the Vikings today. I knew coming into this game that the Vikes would not blow them out. If there is any team this year that the Lions would beat it was the Vikings. With Frerotte out, my boy Tarvaris Jackson tore it up and led the Vikings on two impressive scoring drives to beat the Lions 20-16. What makes this win even better is that douche bag Daunte Culpepper couldn't extract his little revenge by beating his former team.

Anyone else see the terrible cheap shot that Cherillious made on Jared Allen? Dude needs to get suspended for the rest of the season for that shit.

[Colonel Flagg]

0-16 here we come. The legacy of Matt Millen will reach its climactic and historic conclusion.

Whatever it takes to get us to win, you do!

Any luck finding that AV clip, Pent?

[WhiteRat]

HAHAHAHHAHAH

NSFW:
http://deadspin.com/5103817/fox-broadcasts-some-viking-locker-room-dong

[pac-man]

HAHAHAHHAHAH

NSFW:
http://deadspin.com/5103817/fox-broadcasts-some-viking-locker-room-dong

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[Colonel Flagg]

Pub would love this one.

[Pentegarn]

0-16 here we come. The legacy of Matt Millen will reach its climactic and historic conclusion.



Any luck finding that AV clip, Pent?

I wish, it would be my computer startup sounder if I did :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

Even after a rash of really bad games, the Beag's are still in the playoff hunt. My take is that if they win-out they're in. Hotlanta will lose one more game, and Washington and Dallas are both on the schedule. They have to win out, though.

Hey, guess what guys; we don't have to pass the football all the time! There's something called a "running game" that everyone is talking about - why don't we try that this week against the Giants?

Sped.

[pac-man]

You know, most any other NFL city and its fans would exalt Donovan McNabb. I just thought about that.

[El Blanco]

Any other NFL would have tried giving him a receiver, too.

[pac-man]

Who wins tonight? I'm going with Tampa Bay.

[Colonel Flagg]

Any other NFL would have tried giving him a receiver, too.

They did; Terrell Owens. :lol

My beef has never been with McNabb - he's probably one of the best QB's ever to wear an Eagles uniform (though that's not saying much coming from the land of Pete Liske, Mike Boryla, Rick Arrington, John "don't call me John-boy" Walton, and that lovely three headed monster of Jim McMahon, Pat Ryan and Jeff Kemp).

IMO, Reid has been the problem with the franchise of late by neglecting see tne need for a balanced (60/40 to 40/60) attack. Consider this: In the Bengals-Eagles game the Eagles had 18 third down opportunities. To convert these third downs to first downs they chose to pass the ball .... 18 times. Including several 3rd-and-less-than-4-yards chances. For the love of God, why couldn't they try to run the ball just once? :hypno

[pac-man]

They did; Terrell Owens. :lol


And they went to a Super Bowl. Yeah, Reid isn't as good as his coaching resume would suggest, but Donovan has gotten a raw deal. My buddy and I compared the way fans in Philly treat him to the way fans here in Tejas treat Tracy McGrady. They're not the problem, but the fans wanna see 'em gone. I don't get it; maybe I'm too rational.

[Pentegarn]

My beef has never been with McNabb - he's probably one of the best QB's ever to wear an Eagles uniform (though that's not saying much coming from the land of Pete Liske, Mike Boryla, Rick Arrington, John "don't call me John-boy" Walton, and that lovely three headed monster of Jim McMahon, Pat Ryan and Jeff Kemp).

What about Randall Cunningham?

[Colonel Flagg]

Randall got a raw deal IMO. He was a great athlete who really didn't understand the QB position to his fullest ability. If he had a coach who gave a shit about offense, he would have been brought along more slowly, allowed the chance to learn the nuances of reading defenses and probably had a far more successful career in playoff games. As it played out, he got James David Ryan.

Them's the breaks :\

[Colonel Flagg]

And they went to a Super Bowl. Yeah, Reid isn't as good as his coaching resume would suggest, but Donovan has gotten a raw deal. My buddy and I compared the way fans in Philly treat him to the way fans here in Tejas treat Tracy McGrady. They're not the problem, but the fans wanna see 'em gone. I don't get it; maybe I'm too rational.

I don't disagree. It's been apparent for some time to any fan that really pays attention that he is the heart and soul of the Eagles franchise.

It's funny, but every single bleedin' time they decide (for whatever reason) to develop a running game during any game, it seems they do much better passing the ball. McNabb has enjoyed this balance as well - his numbers the past two weeks have been far more than respectable, and an incredible difference over the Baltimore debacle and that stupid tie. The point is that he doesn't have to do it all himself, and that the defenses can't just sit back and play 3-deep all day long.

It's obvious to a hack like me. Why can't Reid see this? >:

[pac-man]

He's busy bailing his kids out of jail.

[Pentegarn]

TO.... being TO. Aparently he has a problem with Romo now

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3763209

Now correct me if I am mistaken, but didn't our bipolar WR friend shed tears in defense of "his quarterback" less than a year ago?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNO6On7cK1M

[El Blanco]

wide receiver Terrell Owens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1056) has expressed resentment toward Tony Romo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5209), apparently jealous of the quarterback's relationship with tight end Jason Witten (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4527). Owens thinks Romo and Witten -- close friends and road roommates who came to Dallas in the same offseason -- hold private meetings and create plays without including Owens, according to a source who speaks regularly with Owens' teammates.

TO feels jilted.

[Colonel Flagg]

If this isn't gay, I don't know what is. ;)

[pac-man]

Gosh, Terrell Owens complaining! Never saw this coming!

:rolleyes:

[WhiteRat]

When will this cocksucker shut his god damn mouth?

Assholes like him and Chad Johnson make me veer further away from the NFL.

[Colonel Flagg]

I'll always remember my brother, a San Franciscan, told me when the Eag's signed TO that we would like him for a couple of years, then we'll be glad when we finally saw the back of him. It only took one year to wear out his welcome in Philly, and a little longer in Dallas, but there you go. You can't change the basic nature of the beast - he's an ASSHOLE.

[pac-man]

Latest word is that he decided to take his gripes directly to Jason Witten on the practice field and "called (Witten) a name."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3767580

T.O. = Team Obliterator

[Colonel Flagg]

Now THAT's mature. :suckthumb

Witten should respond "I know you are, but what am I?"

[pac-man]

Fuck the NFL referees. They've been atrocious all season and didn't disappoint this weekend, either. A great and meaningful game between the Steelers and Ravens was marred thanks to the replay official's douchebaggery. Steelers might've scored on 4th down, kicked a field goal, or gotten stopped... we'll never know.

Seriously, make the refs full-time and make them more accountable than a fucking league apology.

[Geggy]

Now it is teddy bruschi of the pats who is out for the year with an injured knee. But fear not, old man junior seau have taken his place. I still like their chances. Only if the stupid buffalo bills didn't fall flat against the jets in the winding minutes last sunday, the pats would be in a very good shape.

[McClain]

Yeah, there does seem to be an uncanny string of horrible officiating this year. A few calls come to mind.
I find it hard to believe that a billion dollar company like the NFL can't have their referee's as full-time employees. Granted they don't have to work as often as NBA or MLB officiates, but still... Toss 'em six figures and keep 'em busy training/watching video for four days a week. It's getting bad.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I think the Bills lost on purpose to put the Pats in worse shape. At the very least Losman is on the Jets payroll.

[pac-man]

AFC Wild Cards will be Miami and Baltimore, methinks. It'll be okay though, Boston, you've got the best basketball team in the land and we all still hate your guts. :)

[El Blanco]

Baltimore needs to beat a team with a winning record. Otherwise, San Diego can sneak in there.

And Indy has a spot, I think.

[pac-man]

How would Baltimore effect San Diego? San Diego isn't in the hunt for the wild card, they're playing for the AFC West. They've got a better conference record than Denver, so if they win out and Denver loses out they'll take it with an 8-8 record.

The wild card chasers are Baltimore, Miami, New England, and Indy. And yeah, the Colts are actually the top wild card right now.

[El Blanco]

No, San Diego is still in it. Outside shot, but the way Baltimore does in "must win" games, the Charges may have a better shot.

Granted, it will most likely be Indy and the Pats or Jets.

[pac-man]

How is San Diego still in the wild card race? The best they can finish is 8-8, the worst Baltimore, Miami, New England, or the Jets can finish is 9-7. And all those teams except the Pats have a better AFC record than the Chargers. Trust me, the only way San Diego makes the playoffs is as the AFC West Champion.

[Colonel Flagg]

Pac-man is right - the only way SD goes to the playoffs is if Denver loses two and they win out. They mathematically can't finish with a better record than either the Pats, Jets or the Ravens. So no wild card.

[WhiteRat]

Vikings send 6 Pro Bowlers and somehow Jared Allen isn't starting.

[pac-man]

The Pro Bowl gets more farcical every year. Fan voting is a joke. The second I heard Phil Rivers got snubbed for Favre I realized why we have an electoral college.

[WhiteRat]

Jon Abraham got snubbed and he has 15 sacks! Shit like this is why I hate fan voting.

The only reason why Yao Ming starts every year in the All-Star game is because the Chinese can even vote.

[pac-man]

Yeah, it's bad in the NBA too. I like fan voting and I participate most years, but if people are just stuffing the ballot on behalf of recognizable names then fuck it. The purpose has been defeated.

[pac-man]

I think it's safe to say that the Ravens, after 12 years, have finally found their quarterback. Joe Flacco is steady beyond his years. Romo looked like the rookie at times tonight.

The Eagles are right back into the thick of the hunt now. I think that they'll beat Dallas at home next week, go to the playoffs, and that Donovan McNabb will be telling a lot of people to kiss his ass.