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WhiteRat
Dec 21st, 2008, 02:07 AM
I'll gladly admit when i'm wrong and I must admit my folly in saying that Flacco was a reach in the first round. The kid can play. There is no doubt about it.

What a great rookie class this is shaping up to be. Matt Ryan, Flacco, Matt Forte, and Chris Johnson are definitely playing like veterans. Jerod Mayo of NE is playing lights out as well.

Muscle_Bomber_Uno
Dec 21st, 2008, 11:42 AM
I'm so happy the Ravens beat the crybabies, I mean Cowboys.

Jacksonville is going to be a challenge though. Victory means playoffs.

All the Redskin fans at my school are always talking about how lame Flacco is, but they have two QB's who don't even try, while we have one who's working his ass off to get us further.

They also brought up the Ravens-Steelers game, as if it was actually an embarassing defeat. Apparently they forgot that they lost to Ocho Stinko and the Bengals (The BENGALS for fuck's sake!) and their coach is a giver upper. Besides, the Steelers were what, 10-3 when we played them? And what were the Bengals, 1-11? It feels great that our season is going well, because the Redskin fans may talk big, but they have no reason to, so shut the fuck up.

By the way, 70 something and 80 something record runs for Mcgahee and McClain? Playoffs, baby.

pac-man
Dec 21st, 2008, 11:59 AM
The Ravens certainly looked like a playoff team last night. I'll be stoked if they go to the tournament, but I really think that this is a team that is poised for postseason success in the next few seasons. There's a lot of very talented youth in Baltimore, but Ozzie Newsome is going to have his hands full this offseason reloading the linebacker corps. I'm pretty sure Bart Scott or Terrell Suggs (god forbid they both go elsewhere) won't be back next year, and despite the fountain of youth Ray Lewis must bathe in, he can't play forever.

Think Tavaris Jackson can win his job back in earnest today, WR?

WhiteRat
Dec 21st, 2008, 12:26 PM
Yeah, I think he can and will. He's going to have his work cut out for him today with Jon Abraham and Co. up in his face, but I really believe that this kid has matured and is ready to play consistently at a high level.

pac-man
Dec 21st, 2008, 07:19 PM
The Eagles aren't out of it, but they're going to have to play much, much, much better next week and cross their fingers that the Raiders play like they did today.

Why am I convinced that the Chargers will win the AFC West?

I remember now... they are better than the Broncos.

WhiteRat
Dec 21st, 2008, 07:39 PM
How Adrian Peterson fumbles the ball 3 times today is beyond me. The Vikings GAVE that game to the Falcons today. 5 fumbles is inexcusable. Jackson played well and kept the Vikings in the game with his huge runs, but AP seriously needs to get his shit together. He's fumbled the ball 6 times I believe in the last 3 games.

pac-man
Dec 21st, 2008, 07:50 PM
Yeah, I noticed that. The highlights they played on Fox didn't show any of AP's fumbles, though.

Credit has to be given to the Falcons players and coaches because I don't think anybody expected them to even make a blip on the radar screen this season.

WhiteRat
Dec 21st, 2008, 08:03 PM
I'll give them credit for the season but not for this game. We laid such a colossal egg today and that game was given to the Falcons on a golden platter.

pac-man
Dec 21st, 2008, 08:09 PM
I guess this is one of those rare times when you'll be rooting for the Packers, eh?

WhiteRat
Dec 21st, 2008, 08:19 PM
Ha, you got it.

Colonel Flagg
Dec 21st, 2008, 10:41 PM
62 yards rushing. 16 rushes and 46 passes. Reid still doesn't learn from experience.

Eagles don't deserve the playoffs. >:

pac-man
Dec 21st, 2008, 10:52 PM
Not with a shoddy performance like that. I like their chances, though. They can beat Dallas.

Muscle_Bomber_Uno
Dec 22nd, 2008, 09:24 AM
Not with a shoddy performance like that. I like their chances, though. They can beat Dallas.

Yeah, the Eagles seem to have a defense that does well against QB's who make mistakes, so Choko best watch what he throws.

Colonel Flagg
Dec 22nd, 2008, 03:23 PM
I guess this is one of those rare times when you'll be rooting for the Packers, eh?

Ha, you got it.

Me too! ;)

pac-man
Dec 22nd, 2008, 08:23 PM
http://cdn.withleather.uproxx.com-s1.simplecdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/pow.jpg

This picture encapsulates the officiating this year.

10,000 Volt Ghost
Dec 22nd, 2008, 08:25 PM
If only his left arm would have been a little lower it would have made a perfect space ghost pose.

pac-man
Dec 22nd, 2008, 11:48 PM
Coin toss hits Urlacher in the head. These refs are just fucking with us.

Pentegarn
Dec 23rd, 2008, 05:26 AM
This picture encapsulates the officiating this year.

There's a blog article about that here

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/When-officials-attack-Umpire-lowers-the-boom-on?urn=nfl,130799

WhiteRat
Dec 23rd, 2008, 06:17 AM
The Vikings have officially boarded the bus and it's slowly backing away from the playoffs.

El Blanco
Dec 23rd, 2008, 12:10 PM
Actually, I think a ref kicking a player in the balls would be a much more appropriate picture.

Pentegarn
Dec 28th, 2008, 03:05 PM
Dammit Lions! Now is not the time to have pride in yourselves, just hurry up and lose this game to the Packers and run the freaking table in reverse!>:

Pentegarn
Dec 28th, 2008, 04:19 PM
WOOHOO!!!!!!

0-16 BABY!!!!!!

Pentegarn
Dec 28th, 2008, 04:22 PM
I thought Cleveland looked solid despite their preseason loss to the Jets. Anderson played quite well for the 2 or 3 series he played in throwing a touchdown and throwing no interceptions. Brady Quinn also did well throwing a touchdown and an interception. The recieving core looks polished for so early, though the 3rd and 4th string defense all but collapsed allowing the Jets to get the victory (not that that matters, I saw exactly what I wanted to see in the first half).

I can't wait to see what Cleveland does this year, I think they could make some serious noise this season.

EDIT: Because I didn't do it before when WhiteRat did his prediction, I will give my prediction for Cleveland's record. 12-4

LOL at me :lol

Geggy
Dec 28th, 2008, 06:20 PM
Looks like ravens are stepping all over the jaquars. Its up to the jets now to beat the phins for the pats to land a playoff spot.

How about that vikings-giants game? What a way to seal a playoff spot with a 50 yard field goal.

Colonel Flagg
Dec 28th, 2008, 07:57 PM
YO TO!!! 44-6!!!!

How did that taste?

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

:aok

Colonel Flagg
Dec 28th, 2008, 08:00 PM
And the Fish pull one out against the Green Slime. Hey, Brett Farve - you goin' to Disneyland? 'Cause you ain't goin' to the Playoffs! Plus the Pats are out - a side benefit.

Plus Minnesota wins and Chicago loses.

It just doesn't get any better than this, that is unless San Diego beats Denver tonight.

Colonel Flagg
Dec 28th, 2008, 09:05 PM
EDIT: double post.

Pentegarn
Dec 28th, 2008, 09:23 PM
YO TO!!! 44-6!!!!

How did that taste?

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

:aok

If I had to guess, it tastes the same to TO as losing to Pennington tasted to the Jets :lol

Colonel Flagg
Dec 28th, 2008, 10:22 PM
Mid 3rd, SD 38, Denver 14.

My cup runneth over.

WhiteRat
Dec 28th, 2008, 11:28 PM
NFC NORTH CHAMPS BITCH

YAH BITCH YAH

Colonel Flagg
Dec 28th, 2008, 11:43 PM
How 'bout dem BRONCO'S!!!!!!!

Way to tank the season, guys!

The Bolts say "Eight-'n'-Eight Feels Great!"

WhiteRat
Dec 28th, 2008, 11:49 PM
People rag on the NFC North, but dear god, the AFC West is a complete joke.

El Blanco
Dec 29th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Both Western divisions are awful.

I'm loving the idea of the Pats going 11-5 and missing the playoffs while the 8-8 Chargers clinched their division. If only Seattle had won yesterday.

Biggest game of the year against a team the Cowboys were clearly more talented than and they fucking crash and burn. Awesome. Romo even collapsed in the shower after the game.

So, anyone else looking forward to a Manningbowl in February?

Pentegarn
Dec 29th, 2008, 05:40 PM
So, anyone else looking forward to a Manningbowl in February?

I think the lick races were more than enough

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCpNVQEn6rY

10,000 Volt Ghost
Dec 29th, 2008, 06:40 PM
Stupid Bills. I don't know why I bother sometimes.

WhiteRat
Dec 29th, 2008, 09:28 PM
I had forgotten all about this until today at work, but it appears that no one won the Brett Favre Injury contest. Everyone had guessed which week Favre was going to be injured. Obviously that didn't happen and I think this year will be his last for good.

Pentegarn
Dec 30th, 2008, 05:12 AM
I had forgotten all about this until today at work, but it appears that no one won the Brett Favre Injury contest. Everyone had guessed which week Favre was going to be injured. Obviously that didn't happen and I think this year will be his last for good.

Wrong sir, I guessed no injury!

I want to play. i am going with the long shot and saying no injury

Go me!

pac-man
Dec 30th, 2008, 09:43 AM
Well played, Mayor Bee.

The look on Terrell Owens' face during the Eagles pummeling of the Cowboys was fucking priceless. The 'boys would be wise to dump T.O., but Jerry Jones doesn't care about winning. The best football that'll be played in that new coliseum of his will come from the Big XII.

3 coaches down already. Herm Edwards is probably next, but who knows anymore? Certainly came as a surprise to me that the "Mangenius" got his walking papers.

Brett Favre should probably go off into the sunset now. He's not going to be any better next season, and if you believe the excuses of not knowing the playbook or having a sore shoulder, I've got a bridge to sell you. I don't know what the Packers excuse is for their season, but don't point the finger at Aaron Rodgers.

Great final regular season weekend. I knew the Chargers would win the west, mainly because they are simply the best team in that abysmal division. The Cowboys, Bucs, Broncos, and Bears didn't deserve to be in the playoffs and they all proved it in overwhelming fashion. And Patriots fans should be glad their team didn't make the playoffs. A run at the Lombardi Trophy might've sealed the fate of Tom Brady. Now the braintrust up there has time to figure out what to do with their two quarterbacks. Might be looking at another Montana vs. Young situation.

The Lions have nowhere to go but up. I do think that Coach Marinelli deserves a modicum of credit for how he handled the mess there. This should be Matt Millen's legacy moreso than his.

I'm thinking Ravens vs. Colts for the AFC title game and Panthers vs. Giants for the NFC crown; a Manning will collect another ring in the end.

El Blanco
Dec 30th, 2008, 09:47 AM
I think McCarthy will get axed next. He did such a terrible job with the Packers. And he should be followed by Dick Jeraun.

Colonel Flagg
Dec 30th, 2008, 12:52 PM
The look on Terrell Owens' face during the Eagles pummeling of the Cowboys was fucking priceless. The 'boys would be wise to dump T.O., but Jerry Jones doesn't care about winning. The best football that'll be played in that new coliseum of his will come from the Big XII..

I loved his line - 6 catches for over 100 yards and NO TD's. What a game-breaker. And this time he can't blame the QB for not getting him the ball - Hell, even Jason Witten threw him a 42 yard completion.

Don't forget at the start of the year, the Boys were picked to win the NFC East, which was supposed to be the toughest division in football. Uh, I don't think so, on either count.

The Lions have nowhere to go but up. I do think that Coach Marinelli deserves a modicum of credit for how he handled the mess there. This should be Matt Millen's legacy moreso than his.

Agreed. During Millen's 7 years the Lions won 31 games. That's just over 4 wins a season. :x

El Blanco
Dec 30th, 2008, 03:35 PM
Dude, the Cowboys were the preseason favorites for the Superbowl.

WhiteRat
Dec 30th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Yeah, I had the Boys and Pats in the Super Bowl this year.


So Mike Shannahan was just fired after 14 years with the Broncos. Thoughts?

Pentegarn
Dec 30th, 2008, 06:33 PM
So Mike Shannahan was just fired after 14 years with the Broncos. Thoughts?

I'll leave that one to MailCall to answer, he's a Broncos fan.

Colonel Flagg
Dec 30th, 2008, 08:05 PM
So Mike Shannahan was just fired after 14 years with the Broncos. Thoughts?

It's the NFL, which stands for "Not For Long".

He'll get another job real soon, shed no tears for Mike Shanahan.

brokensaint82
Dec 30th, 2008, 08:36 PM
I think Shannahan might hang it up...for a year or two at least anyone else notice how grey he got after elway retired? anyways as for the playoffs My Panthers are in so I'm happy about that.

WhiteRat
Dec 31st, 2008, 11:21 AM
Wrong sir, I guessed no injury!



Go me!

This is true. You correctly guessed that Fawv-Ray would not get injured at all this season. For that, I present to you a prize that was sculpted by the finest graphic artisans in all the land:

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q15/JerkDouglas/b_favre_080807_03_WIDE.jpg

El Blanco
Dec 31st, 2008, 04:19 PM
With the shit season he had, can we still consider the Madden Curse still in effect?

MattJack
Dec 31st, 2008, 06:33 PM
I would say the Madden Curse has been broken ):

Hopefully we find out that Farve screws children or fights dogs that way the Madden Curse can keep on going :D

Pentegarn
Dec 31st, 2008, 08:26 PM
This is true. You correctly guessed that Fawv-Ray would not get injured at all this season. For that, I present to you a prize that was sculpted by the finest graphic artisans in all the land:

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q15/JerkDouglas/b_favre_080807_03_WIDE.jpg

Wow that's pretty good! :lol:)

Colonel Flagg
Dec 31st, 2008, 08:38 PM
'grats, Pent. :bow Do I sense a new avatar?

Just to be completely accurate, Farve was injured sometime during the year, he just kept on playing. It could have been chronic, it could have been progressive, but his shoulder will need arthoscopic surgery in the off-season.

More importantly, will we be able to run the pool again next year?

Pentegarn
Jan 1st, 2009, 12:38 AM
'grats, Pent. :bow Do I sense a new avatar?

I was going to just admire it now and again, but a good idea is a good idea...

Pentegarn
Jan 1st, 2009, 12:48 AM
More importantly, will we be able to run the pool again next year?

Well, it was about the Madden curse, so I would say yes, we just have to wait and see who the next victim is going to be when Madden 2010 drops.

pac-man
Jan 1st, 2009, 04:04 AM
The Madden Curse lives. Brett's injury was in his brain. Call it ego, call it pride, call it denial- something got in his craw as training camp approached. He's not the same, never will be. Steve McNair was better in his first year with the Ravens than his second. It's not about learning the system. It's not about shoulder problems. It's about getting old.

Shannahan being fired was a shocker. How many players did he have to replace this year (especially half backs)? How many 1000 yd rushers did he make after Terrell Davis left? The team was hobbled, the defense wasn't good from the get-go, and they didn't beat San Diego the first time.

I looked at the semifinalists for the Hall of Fame earlier. I'm rooting for Derrick Thomas, Cris Carter, Shannon Sharpe, Bruce Smith, and Ray Guy. Lots of good candidates in there, though. Bob Hayes will probably be the old guy inductee.

Fans in Seattle are probably glad 2008's over.

Colonel Flagg
Jan 4th, 2009, 08:18 PM
So much for wild-card weekend. Falcons go down in ignonimous defeat to the CARDINALS while Indianapolis loses to the 8-8 (now 9-8) Chargers. (Maybe McClain was right and they should fire Dungy).

And now today - Baltimore demoralizes the Fish, 27-9, with Chad throwing 4 picks. Nice.

And in the game I was most interested in, the Eagles beat the Vikings 26-14 in a game that was closer than the score indicated. McNabb had a good day, don't get me wrong, but the offense was definitely not clicking on all cylinders. Minnesota would have made a game of it were it not for the incredibly inept play of one Tarvaris Jackson (sp?) who went 15-35 with no TD's and one interception returned for a TD.

If the Eag's play this way against the Giants next week, they're going to get hammered.

WhiteRat
Jan 4th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Tarvaris had the INT but managed the game very well in the first half, IMO. He collapsed in the second half, but who can blame the guy when blitzing linebackers run through your o-line untouched every other play? It was only a matter of time before the constant blitzing would catch up to him.

Now that the season is over, I hope Chrome Dome gets his 24-25 record ass out of town. Wilf (the owner) shells out insane amounts of dough on free agents and all he can muster is a 10-6 record. Pfffft.

I think the Vikings need to bring in a young veteran, possibly Derek Andersen, and let him, TJack, and JD Booty have a hot and wild three way competition for the starting job next season.

Colonel Flagg
Jan 5th, 2009, 05:35 AM
I don't think so - the Vikes improved by 2 games each year since Childress was hired (6-10 in '06 and 8-8 in '07). You'll have to wait for a significant downturn for them to make a switch now. Unless Wilf is more of a "Jerry Jones" type, in which case Childress' ass should have been handed to him by now.

pac-man
Jan 5th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Why settle for Derek Anderson, WR? Matt Cassel will cost you some draft picks, but the Vikings have a team that is built for playoff football everywhere except under center. TJ looked good though, and he will be a more than competant starter one day.

The Ravens are for reals. And anytime they lock horns with Tennessee in the playoffs the game is a fucking slobberknocker. It's apparent that it doesn't matter if a team doesn't turn the ball over against everyone else. Ed Reed and co. force turnovers.

My faith in the Chargers lapsed after they won the West. I wanted them to beat Indy, but didn't think they had it in them. They proved me wrong. They can beat the Steelers. I won't say that they will, but they can.

Eagles and Cardinals both looked impressive, but I'm pretty sure their seasons are going to end this weekend. The Cardinals can't win on the East coast, and the G-Men will be ready for Jim Johnston's blitzes and stunts.

Colonel Flagg
Jan 6th, 2009, 05:38 AM
Ravens-Titans should be the best game this weekend. Followed by the Eagles-Giants. Sorry, but I just can't see either the Chargers or the Cards putting up much of a fight in the other two games.

But I've been wrong before .... and will be again, I'm sure. :)

WhiteRat
Jan 6th, 2009, 11:48 PM
I don't think so - the Vikes improved by 2 games each year since Childress was hired (6-10 in '06 and 8-8 in '07). You'll have to wait for a significant downturn for them to make a switch now. Unless Wilf is more of a "Jerry Jones" type, in which case Childress' ass should have been handed to him by now.

With the money that has been spent in recent years, a 2 win "improvement" each year will not suffice. This 10-6 record this year should've happened his first year, especially given that Mike Tice left Chilly a 9-7 team to work with. The fans are fed up with his crappy offense, which by the way, he dubbed (in his own words) as "kick ass". No one can figure out why he tends to go away from AP in the second half nearly every game. Rumblings from the locker room the past 3 seasons also suggest that player's find him to tough to play for. He is very unpopular in Minny and people have been calling for his head since the '06 season.

Wilf might be a Jerry Jones Lite, given the fact that he is desperately trying to get a new stadium approved. He's been throwing money around like crazy (Allen, Berrian, Madieu Williams) and inside sources say that the Week 2 benching of Tarvaris Jackson was ordered by Wilf himself. Wilf is trying to build a winner in the Vikings so as to try to butter up the legislature to pony up more money for the 3rd new stadium in 2 years.

Now, this all moot, as Wilf stated yesterday that Childress will be back next season.
:x

As for Pac-Man...
I'd love to have Cassell. Hell, I wanted the Vikes to make a push for him last year. I also think very highly of Jackson, but depending on what kind of pressure Wilf will put on Chilly as far as the QB situation, he might not fit in the long term plans of the team. Most Minnesota fans hate Jackson and Wilf will seemingly do anything to get in the bosom of the local goverment. Cassell will come at a steep price that i'm sure Wilf will pay, it's just that I'd also like to see Jackson compete for the starting job next year. Bringing in Andersen would push Jackson more than what Frerotte could ever do, and if Jackson fails, you have a decent option at QB at a much cheaper cost than Cassell.

Just my 47 cents.

McClain
Jan 7th, 2009, 01:19 PM
I'm still butthurt.

pac-man
Jan 7th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Everybody's been talking about changing the overtime rule in the NFL since last week's Chargers/Colts game.

I think it's fine the way it is. You want it more, you go get it. If anything they should take away field goals as a score in overtime. Touchdown or bust. Sudden death overtime is pretty much exclusive to the NFL and it works. Coin toss winners don't win often enough to say otherwise.

MattJack
Jan 7th, 2009, 10:52 PM
I read somewhere a suggestion of a slight change where the home team gets the ball first if you go into SD OT. I actually like it.

Everyone will know who will get the ball if OT happens, and home field advantage will mean something again! WIN-WIN

I love the Colts(probably the only team other than the Saints that I actually like and want to win), but Peyton really fuck*d them that game. They deserved to lose. The rule didn't have anything to do with it imo.

WhiteRat
Jan 7th, 2009, 11:13 PM
Coin toss winners don't win often enough to say otherwise.

Any figures to back this up? In my experience, it seems to me that the coin toss winner usually just drives down the field and kicks a field goal.

pac-man
Jan 7th, 2009, 11:57 PM
Total no. of overtime games (1974–2003) 365
Both teams had at least one possession 261 (72 %)
Team won toss and won game 189 (52 %)
Team lost toss and won game 160 (44 %)
Team won toss and drove for winning score 102 (28 %)
Games ending in a tie 15 (5 %)


From: http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html

A majority of the time, both teams have at least one possession.

pac-man
Jan 11th, 2009, 12:20 AM
As a loyal and vocal Ravens fan, first I'd like to say, "WOOOOO!!!!!"

As a loyal and vocal football fan, I'd like to say, "Jesus Tittyfucking Christ! These officials are horrible."

The old cliche is that you'd rather be lucky than good, and the zebras missing the delay of game against Baltimore is luck. They were outplayed, outcoached, and were obviously tired, but the Ravens pulled it out. Bruising game, as advertised. I love watching Tennessee and B-more play. It's fun watching a sprinkling of football between penalties, injuries, and shoving matches.

And who are these mofos masquerading as the Arizona Cardinals? Moreso, why the hell did the braintrust on the Carolina sideline go into "panic mode" when they were only down 10 points? There is no reason why Williams and Stewart shouldn't have both went over 100 yards, of course other than the fact that the coaches kept calling pass and Delhomme interpreted that as "Throw into double coverage, good single coverage, triple coverage, or just away from the guy wearing black and teal."

Giants over Eagles, Steelers over Chargers. I would go out on a limb, but who knows anymore? Sure things and home teams haven't had the best success, so I'm going to say they're due and save myself the trouble of trying to break things down. All four teams are good, and both games should be fun.

I'll be p.o.'ed if they don't make NFL official a full-time job. I know that they're probably going to look at playoff seeding and overtime during the offseason, but the first thing that needs to be addressed is that officials are blatantly affecting the outcome of games. Tennessee got a phantom call in their first match against Baltimore, now vice versa. People might not be talking down about the Chargers if they get that call against Denver. So forth and so on... we all have our team, and I'd wager we've all seen them get hosed on an obvious call/non-call this season.

Some serious football being played out there, though. Big-time credit to Tennessee and Carolina for having great seasons. Their fans should not be disappointed.

Colonel Flagg
Jan 11th, 2009, 08:13 AM
[W]hy the hell did the braintrust on the Carolina sideline go into "panic mode" when they were only down 10 points? There is no reason why Williams and Stewart shouldn't have both went over 100 yards, of course other than the fact that the coaches kept calling pass and Delhomme interpreted that as "Throw into double coverage, good single coverage, triple coverage, or just away from the guy wearing black and teal."

As a Philadelphia fan who watched the Eagles do much the same thing in most of their 6 losses this year, I can only speculate that John Fox was channeling his inner Andy Reid. :\ But hat's off to the Cards - they really played surprisingly well considering their regular season record on the East Coast.

Giants over Eagles, Steelers over Chargers. I would go out on a limb, but who knows anymore? Sure things and home teams haven't had the best success, so I'm going to say they're due and save myself the trouble of trying to break things down. All four teams are good, and both games should be fun.

Being a loyal and rabid Eagles fan I'd respectfully disagree with the first prediction. :) However, I find it also a bit out of the ordinary that the home field is having so little effect in the playoffs this year. I can only hope this trend continues! :lol

Colonel Flagg
Jan 11th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Did my eyes deceive me, or did Reid really run the ball that much, even when Westbrook and Buckhalter were getting stuffed at the line 9 times out of 10? 40 passes and 28 rushes - that's about a 60/40 split. What was he smoking?

Statistically the game looked about even, except in one crucial statistic - the Giants were only 3-13 on third down conversions. Whe it counted, the Eagles defense stepped up to the plate, so to speak.

Ugly ugly game, but a win is a win. Bring on the Cards! :rock

WhiteRat
Jan 11th, 2009, 09:31 PM
The Eagles and Cards have defnitely been playing top notch football the past few weeks. If you would've asked me at the start of the playoffs if I thought Philly and AZ would be in the NFC Championship Game, I would've shat in your mouth. Definitely surprising. At least the Steelers beat who they were supposed too.

With that said, the Super Bowl is only two games away!

pac-man
Jan 11th, 2009, 09:49 PM
You win the turnover battle, you win the game. The Eagles defense made Jacobs run outside, pressured Eli, and forced mistakes. Plaxico Burress would've been nice to have today for the football Giants. I'm telling you, if Donovan McNabb brings the Lombardi Trophy to Philly, his detractors should form a line behind him and proceed to kiss his ass. He wasn't great today, but he didn't make mistakes. Not to mention that this will be his 5th NFC Championship game. Lots of credit to Andy Reid and Jim Johnson for calling a winning game. Who'd a thunk Eagles vs. Cardinals for the NFC Championship? I'm sure a lot of people in Philly are wringing their hands at the thought of facing the Cards, but Arizona has obviously saved their best football for the playoffs. I like the Eagles, but mainly because the Cardinals have been the Cardinals for so long that I really can't even get my head around the fact that they're a game away from a Super Bowl.

Baltimore vs. Pittsburgh III. If the Steel Curtain falls over the Ravens running game like it did San Diego's, it may be ugly for the birds. Rex Ryan and Cam Cameron have had ample time to figure these guys out, though. Third time's the charm for B-more. San Diego had salvaged their season, and my hat's off to Rivers, Gates, Sproles and co. Tough breaks for LT the last two years, but he's a future Hall of Famer so he's got that going for him.

Colonel Flagg
Jan 11th, 2009, 09:50 PM
I wonder if this will go down in history as the "Son of the Body Bag Game" - these two teams have a long history of hatred going back to the days when the Ravens were the "original" Cleveland Browns.

pac-man
Jan 12th, 2009, 01:05 PM
Tony Dungy is retiring later today, it seems.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3827058

Colonel Flagg
Jan 12th, 2009, 10:39 PM
McClain must be so thrilled.

MattJack
Jan 13th, 2009, 01:26 AM
Agreed.

Somewhere there is a McClain cumm*ng right now.

WhiteRat
Jan 16th, 2009, 07:02 PM
Bucs have fired Gruden and GM Bruce Allen.

Pentegarn
Jan 17th, 2009, 08:28 AM
Bucs have fired Gruden and GM Bruce Allen.

Wow.... poor me (being a Browns fan) having to stomach a Ravens Steelers AFC championship. I don't know who to hope loses, it would be like watching a fight between Rosie O'Donnel and Michael Moore to the death...

Guess I could pray for meteors :lol

Sam
Jan 17th, 2009, 03:19 PM
LET'S GO RAVENS!

WIN ME SOME FUCKING MONEY. >:

WhiteRat
Jan 18th, 2009, 06:24 PM
The Cardinals let the Eagles climb back into it, but "worst playoff team ever" just won the NFC Championship.

I'm still amazed that Kurt Warner can still play at a high level.

pac-man
Jan 18th, 2009, 10:41 PM
Kurt Warner is a beast. I think he punched his ticket to the hall of fame this season. Not necessarily 1st ballot, but certainly a HOFer. The Cards weren't the worst playoff team ever; they just sat on their hands once they clinched the NFC West. They were a great postseason team, and hopefully they'll give us a show on Feb. 1.

Never expected the Ravens to get this far, but kudos to them for doing so. As I sit here in my Flacco jersey and Ravens cap, I know that the future is bright in B-more (thankfully so, as we'll have to sit through another Orioles season before we see Joe Cool again). The Steelers were just the better team today. Better coaching, better play, everything. Hat's off to them, and here's to some awesome Super Bowl commercials!

Officiating. It's been my running theme, and again today, shitty, shitty, shitty officiating. Roughing the kicker? Pardon me sir, but they didn't even touch one another. Kickoff in bounds/out of bounds not a reviewable play? News to me. Helmet-to-helmet hits, holds, and just some all around bad calls by refs in both games. I can't say today that the refs cost or won anybody the game, but that doesn't excuse their sub-par performance, especially when the best officials are supposed to be working this round. Before any discussion occurs on rule changes, overtime, or anything else, the NFL needs to address the fact that the officiating sucks. You don't see it (at least not as blatantly) at the collegiate level, so why is it so prevalent in the NFL? Full-time officials.

I like the Steelers over the Cards. The Steel Curtain feel over the NFL this season. Kurt Warner can't pass off of his back, though he looked great against Dawkins and Samuels today. Boldin and Fitzgerald will have to be huge, because James, Hightower, and company aren't likely to give them much help against the Pittsburgh front four. Big Ben vs. Old Kurt should be a helluva match though, as both are looking down the barrel at tough corners, safeties, and rushers-- again! I'm rooting for the commercials, but this game does have potential to entertain.

How does Eagles vs. Ravens sound for Super Bowl XLIV, Colonel Flagg? ;)

WhiteRat
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:25 PM
The Cards weren't the worst playoff team ever; they just sat on their hands once they clinched the NFC West. They were a great postseason team, and hopefully they'll give us a show on Feb. 1.


The quotes were to emphasize what the media and bloggers were saying, not what I thought.

On a sidenote, Tomlin has a chance to be the third former Viking coordinator to win a Super Bowl since the days of Denny Green. :(

Colonel Flagg
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:31 PM
I am so fucking disgusted right now. >:

Fly Eagles Fly - underachieving bastards.

I'll feel better by the first minicamp, though.

pac-man
Jan 18th, 2009, 11:44 PM
The quotes were to emphasize what the media and bloggers were saying, not what I thought

I gotcha, bro. I had been reading/hearing the same thing over the course of the week, and I was thinking, "the worst playoff team ever" would not make it to this round. The Cardinals proved they were legit the 30 minutes into the Divisional round game. Without Boldin, on the East Coast, etc. etc., they were whooping the Panthers. Yeah, no way they are or were the worst anything ever.

I'll feel better by the first minicamp, though.

There's always next season, Colonel.

There's always next season guys... :tear:tear:tear

MattJack
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:29 AM
I really wanted the Steelers to lose D:<

pac-man
Jan 19th, 2009, 12:35 AM
Me too :tear

Pentegarn
Jan 19th, 2009, 05:23 AM
Unfortunately I don't see the Cardinals beating the Steelers. If the Super Bowl were next week, maybe. But like many other overachieving teams on a white hot streak (Colorado Rockies anyone?) They will now get a cool down period between now and the next game and that will make all the difference.

But here's hoping I am wrong.

McClain
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:21 AM
As much as I wanted to see Baltimore make the Superbowl, I'm kinda' glad they didn't because they're a snooze to watch.

I'll get great satisfaction if the Steelers lose. I'll be wiping my ass with a terrible towel for weeks!

Colonel Flagg
Jan 19th, 2009, 08:45 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this ....

Go Cards.

10,000 Volt Ghost
Jan 20th, 2009, 05:20 PM
Unfortunately I don't see the Cardinals beating the Steelers. If the Super Bowl were next week, maybe. But like many other overachieving teams on a white hot streak (Colorado Rockies anyone?) They will now get a cool down period between now and the next game and that will make all the difference.

But here's hoping I am wrong.


Offtopic but The Rockies are the only baseball team I'll watch. I'll bring this to the baseball thread though.

10,000 Volt Ghost
Jan 20th, 2009, 05:22 PM
I'd like to see the Cardinals win because they haven't yet. I wouldn't mind seeing the steelers win because Pittsburgh is okay with me.

WhiteRat
Jan 20th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Unfortunately I don't see the Cardinals beating the Steelers. If the Super Bowl were next week, maybe. But like many other overachieving teams on a white hot streak (Colorado Rockies anyone?) They will now get a cool down period between now and the next game and that will make all the difference.

But here's hoping I am wrong.

I liken the Cardinals to the Giants from last year. A team that got hot at the right time.

I'm picking the Cardinals.

Pentegarn
Jan 21st, 2009, 10:07 PM
I liken the Cardinals to the Giants from last year. A team that got hot at the right time.

I'm picking the Cardinals.

I want you to be right. I mean come on, "The Steelers win the Super Bowl" yet again? We've seen this result before, about 5 times already, it's old.

Colonel Flagg
Jan 22nd, 2009, 03:37 PM
Plus, isn't Bill Bidwill about 80 years old or something? His team should win the Super Bowl before he croaks.

MattJack
Jan 22nd, 2009, 06:12 PM
I hate the Steelers and I felt that the officials gave them the SB last time they were there.

I hate Big Ben, I hate Pittsburgh as a town, and most of all I hate that bla*k mother fuc*er WESLEY SNIPES

Either you got that reference or you didn't :(

10,000 Volt Ghost
Jan 22nd, 2009, 08:54 PM
:lol :(

WhiteRat
Jan 27th, 2009, 09:12 PM
We Didn't Start The Fire - NFL 2008 Edition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORZ3juePJv4

Pretty amusing.

El Blanco
Jan 29th, 2009, 09:25 AM
That was pretty good.

I've got some friends coming over Sunday and one of them is a huge, obnoxious Steelers fan. So, I'm cheering for The Buzzsaw That Is The Arizona Cardinals.

WhiteRat
Jan 29th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Am I the only one here that really doesn't care about this year's Super Bowl? I just can't get myself excited over this game.

Pentegarn
Jan 31st, 2009, 06:14 AM
I hate Big Ben

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFsDjmceuDo

10,000 Volt Ghost
Jan 31st, 2009, 03:27 PM
Am I the only one here that really doesn't care about this year's Super Bowl? I just can't get myself excited over this game.

I'm in it moreso for the drinking, good commercials and comradery that goes along with it.