Science!

[Tadao]

KACHING!

http://weeswaakzaam.wazzup.nl/files/2009/08/00-rumsfeld-tamifluAcapL.jpg

[kahljorn]

Why have tamiflu when you can just use the spice star anise? ITS EXACTLY THE SAME. Scientists and the government have been lying to us and spending our tax dollars to buy herbs which we could've grown in our own backyard!

this i sjust what id expect from the government that brought us the moon landing.
source:
http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=56062
:lol

[Tadao]

Explains why Asians don't get it. :lol

[Chojin]

suTPns5cy_Q

for all you crips

[Fathom Zero]

I like the interspersed soundbytes.

[Shrubfest]

Tamiflu made me hurl.
No more Tamiflu for me!

[Sam]

Man I was waiting for Diamond Dallas Page to make that guy "FEEL THE BANG"

[Colonel Flagg]

www.henrythehand.com (http://www.henrythehand.com)

[kahljorn]

What if NO adult or adolescent put their finger in their T Zone??? Correct, they would NOT GIVE themselves the H1N1 or any other respiratory virus!!

..

[Sam]

WHAT ABOUT PUTTING YOUR FINGERS IN THE V ZONE? ;)

AM I RIGHT LADIES? ;) ;)

[captain516]

:lol

[Dimnos]

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/cells/scale/

[kahljorn]

Most of the cytoplasm has been squeezed out in order to make the sperm an efficient torpedo-like swimming machine.

lol :(

[elx]

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/11/lcross-water-ice/

:)

[Colonel Flagg]

I actually read the print version of this story before the online version. How 'bout it?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/222792

Having grown up with the notion that fusion would always be "20 years away" this is quite a statement by Dr. Moses. He may be wrong, but what if he's right?

[executioneer]

that would be fucking crazy incredible :(

[Fathom Zero]

So it turns out that this rash I've had between the ring and middle fingers of my left hand for the past two years is really eczema. Go figure.

So now I've gotta read up on all the literature about the stuff and stock up on lotion. >: The bonus is that I don't have to use soap anymore, which I normally forget to do anyway.

[Tadao]

2 years? Hmm I would think it would had spread by then, maybe not. IDK much about it.

[Fathom Zero]

Not if you don't irritate it. If you don't scratch it, it doesn't spread all that much. It started out as just a rough patch of skin on the webbing between my fingers.

When I got to school, I started using hot water and soap and scrubbing the shit out of my hands. That, in combination with the stress and the fact that my roommate turns the heat up, my skin's dryer than usual.

[Supafly345]

We need science and health to be two separate threads so I can talk about physics and cosmology.

[Fathom Zero]

I'm being ignorant here, but do bloodshot eyes non-related to illnesses go away? I've got red lightning bolts arching to my pupils.

[kahljorn]

DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU THINK THE CAUSE IS. HAVE YOU BEEN SLEEPING VERY MUCH LATELY OR ANYTHING ELSE WHICH WOULD CAUSE IT.

LIKE PINK EYE OR ALLERGIES OR SOME SHIT?

[Fathom Zero]

It would be sleep and stress related.

[kahljorn]

If you've only been sleeping for a few hours or staying up really really long for a few nights then you probably just need to sleep a lot for a few days and drink water. and maybe get some sun
So yes it will go away

[Fathom Zero]

Gratzi. Stay cozy!

[Colonel Flagg]

So I went to the Eastern Analytical Symposium (wall-to-wall geek-a-thon) trying to pick up some chicks -- only kidding of course. Stopped at some booth without any real interest, while some guy shoves a paper in my face saying "Register to win a free i-Pod nano". I don't know what that is (oxymoron), but I say, "sure, what the hell". Three days later I find out I won it. Only one question - what did I just win, and should I feel lucky or what?

EDIT: that's two questions, so sorry. :(

[Pentegarn]

So I went to the Eastern Analytical Symposium (wall-to-wall geek-a-thon) trying to pick up some chicks -- only kidding of course. Stopped at some booth without any real interest, while some guy shoves a paper in my face saying "Register to win a free i-Pod nano". I don't know what that is (oxymoron), but I say, "sure, what the hell". Three days later I find out I won it. Only one question - what did I just win, and should I feel lucky or what?

EDIT: that's two questions, so sorry. :(

Really?

[Colonel Flagg]

Yes, really. :(

[Tadao]

KERyn3LM2fs

[Tadao]

Apples mp3 player. Sell it or feel the wrath of I-Tunes!

[Pentegarn]

iTunes isn't that bad once you figure it out (up till that point it is a riddle though)

besides, a free MP3 player is a free MP3 player

And you want to set up a way to play it through your car (I use a device that broadcasts it onto a dead radio station)

[Colonel Flagg]

I'm guessing that it's good then? Seriously, thanks for the help.

[Pentegarn]

Well iPod Nano's cost a bundle (100-200 dollars last I looked) so you won a nice prize. You can put all your CDs on it. And they make even the smallest Walkman look like a giant clunky piece of junk

[Fathom Zero]

They've got cameras now. Unless you've got an old one.

[Colonel Flagg]

I find out tomorrow, when I go back to work.

[Skulduggery]

I don't see the fuss about ipods. I have a really nice Philips mp3 player, nice 'n' shiny, works great, super reliable, lotsa memory, VERY simple to use, the whole thing is just a 1.5 inch square - the list goes on. Considering it cost me £20... :)

[Tadao]

And you don't have to use itunes

[Colonel Flagg]

Well, it was free! :picklehat

[Colonel Flagg]

Time to strike the death knell for life as we know it on planet Earth - the Large Hadron Collider is back online.

http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news-HPC-Beams-are-Back-in-the-Large-Hadron-Collider-112309.aspx (http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news-HPC-Beams-are-Back-in-the-Large-Hadron-Collider-112309.aspx)

[Shrubfest]

I also have a question: Being a costume student, I do a lot of hand sewing. I wear the shiny off them, rendering them useless. Why? Do I have magic acid hands?

[Colonel Flagg]

What do you mean by "them"? Are you referring to the sewing needles, perhaps? :curious

EDIT: On reflection, you're probably referring to the costume material. Depending on the quality and type/composition of the "shiny fabric", and of course depending on the pH of your perspiration, yes, it is entirely possible that your sweaty palms are eating away at the "shiny".

Barring changing into a different person, or buying more "sweat-resistant" material, your best solution would be to wear cheap nitrile or vinyl gloves while sewing, and keeping your hands clean and dry at other times. (Not latex, too many people are allergic.) It will be uncomfortable for you, but you won't ruin the costumery. Life is a series of trade-offs. :\

[Shrubfest]

Oops. Flagg, you were right the first time. I wear the shiny off needles.

And I'm allergic to latex, too!

[Colonel Flagg]

Either way, nitrile or vinyl gloves may be the way to go. That, or buy a better quality needle. :p

[Colonel Flagg]

Well now, that's a how-do-you-do.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/space/01/01/moon.lava.hole/index.html

Colonists, the line forms here. :)

[executioneer]

dude that is clearly a giant moon-worm borehole

HAVE FUN GETTING EATEN, GUYS

[Kitsa]

I agree.

[Pentegarn]

So did you get your free iPod yet Colonel?

[Colonel Flagg]

So did you get your free iPod yet Colonel?

Yes, and it's been a blast getting podcasts and iTunes. You can get carried away, however, and I've learned restraint already. :)

dude that is clearly a giant moon-worm borehole

Yes, but think of the spice! :Arrakis

[Pentegarn]

you did start podcasting Preston & Steve though right?

[Kitsa]

I used to subscribe to This Week In Science out of UC Davis, but it got so there were so many backlogged podcasts that I got hopelessly mired. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

you did start podcasting Preston & Steve though right?

Yeah, and what I missed by limiting myself to drive-time radio is nothing short of astonishing. And hysterical. :lol

I used to subscribe to This Week In Science out of UC Davis, but it got so there were so many backlogged podcasts that I got hopelessly mired. :(

NPR Science Friday 'casts are wickedly long and exceedingly informative, but I find it very easy to get bogged down. :(

[Pentegarn]

I urge you to check out this site then Colonel

http://prestonandsteverock.com/

A large percentage of the shows they have broadcast since 2006-ish

[Colonel Flagg]

Thanks.

Oh, those crazy Brits.

http://www.periodicvideos.com/

[Pentegarn]

Here's some science stuff... in space!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_sc/us_sci_space_mystery

[Colonel Flagg]

Cool! :p

On a sad note, the Matian Rover "Spirit" seems to be stuck in quicksand, perhaps forever.

http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news-DS-Future-Uncertain-for-Stuck-Mars-Rover-010410.aspx?wnnvz=1743,01273409034

[Tadao]

I hear that Spirit hasn't done jack shit.

[Pentegarn]

I remember reading that yesterday. It reminds me of those remote control 'lunar vehicles' we have at our Science museum. One is always stuck somehow :P

[Colonel Flagg]

I hear that Spirit hasn't done jack shit.

That's "Jack Schitt". One of the Schitt brothers. :\

Actually, Spirit has done Jack, from the perspective of analytical science. Mostly it confirmed all the crazy stuff that Opportunity fell into (literally) making the findings from both rovers much more credible, and giving some more insight as to Martian geomorphic history.

On the engineering front, the problems encountered and experienced by Spirit made the JPL scientists devise workarounds that were innovative. Eventually this learning will advance the development of future rover missions to Mars, and perhaps beyond.

But.

Strictly speaking, there have been very few original discoveries by Spirit, so in a pure sense, you are correct. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

So I obtained approval for a new piece of analytical equipment, and scheduled installation and training. The trainer just got in touch with me to finalize the arrangements. His name?

William Batson.

That's right. Captain Marvel will be training me in three weeks. SHAZAM!

[Pentegarn]

You should call him Captain Marvel a lot too, I bet he's never heard that :P

[Colonel Flagg]

Gee, ya think?

EDIT: His v-card :) gives his full name (with initial) and Ph.D. - I'm guessing he doesn't go by "Billy".

[Pentegarn]

He still has his v-card? /callback :P

[Kitsa]

It's so sweet that he sent you a Valentine's card.

[Colonel Flagg]

Getting down to the wire, Kit. What, about a week to the "grand opening"?

[Kitsa]

:/

If I make it to Tuesday, they'll schedule my C section. They say I can "physically tolerate" the pregnancy to 39 weeks. We'll see. I'm not thrilled about major abdominal surgery, and I'm even less thrilled about my limited anesthesia options. All I want to do is get everyone through the ordeal alive.

My two previous babies were both under 2 lbs, so having one that is potentially 9 lbs or more will definitely be a new experience.

[Colonel Flagg]

9 pounds?? That's a bigun.

Good luck, and good karma your way. :)

[Kitsa]

Her dad is 6 and a half feet tall and very large-framed, so we kind of knew this was coming :( All of the people of the doctor's office say, "Well, have you seen the father?" like that explains it all. And they go on at length about the size of her feet.

The one good thing is that they tell me she has a large brain. So at least there's potential there, although brain size doesn't necessarily mean anything.

Thanks, I'll need all the help I can get.

[kahljorn]

:lol
My uncle's a big guy and he was born 6 pounds but my mom is tiny and she was born 9 pounds :O
:STORIESTHATGRANDMOTHERSTELLWHILELOOKINGATPICTURES SHORTLYAFTERCHRISTMAS

[Colonel Flagg]

And they go on at length about the size of her feet.

My son has size 12's and is still growing. I can comfortably wear his shoes now, with room to spare. :(

As I understand it, relative foot size is a pretty good gauge of future ultimate height. On a separate note, how tall are you?

[Kitsa]

5 foot nothing. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

http://www.rdmag.com/News/2010/01/General-Science-Neutrino-hunting-mission-to-begin-in-2010/

I find it an interesting oxymoron that a detector so massive (7 tons) is necessary to determine the mass of the lightest known elementary particle (the neutrino) - if it has any mass at all.

[Grislygus]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n157/grislygus/science_health.jpg

[Colonel Flagg]

'sup Gris. :\

[Kitsa]

Study of physics complete!

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/worlds_physicists_complete

[Darryl]

My son has size 12's and is still growing. I can comfortably wear his shoes now, with room to spare. :(

As I understand it, relative foot size is a pretty good gauge of future ultimate height. On a separate note, how tall are you?

Needing larger-than-average shoes is a pain in the ass (and wallet) :(

[Kitsa]

yes, my sig other has size 13.5-14 extra wide, and trying to find shoes...especially on short notice for a job interview or something...is an absolute nightmare. You can find New Balance stuff at certain stores, but dress shoes are another thing altogether. And when you do manage to find something, you're usually not going to get away with spending any less than $70-100.

[Colonel Flagg]

Shoes are crazy expensive. :(

I buy all my shoes at Marshall's/HomeGoods :( It's amazing when I can not only find my size but also find a style that doesn't make me puke. :x

[Colonel Flagg]

Articles like this make me glad I'm a chemist.

http://www.scientificcomputing.com/article-hpc-Numerical-Precision-How-Much-is-Enough-063009.aspx

[Tadao]

tornadoes on LA shores, go figure.

[Colonel Flagg]

"The Day After Tomorrow", maybe?

[Tadao]

It's crazy wet in LA all this week, but west coast never gets tornadoes. Today and tomorrow should get the worse, but no one cares cause Haiti got another quake. :rolleyes

[elx]

why the crum should anyone care it's freakin' rain

[elx]

GROW A PAIR OR TWO WESTCOASTEES

[Tadao]

It was funny watching the local news try to make an exciting story about it.

[Tadao]

The rain that is, the tornadoes is not an ok thing and only goes to show how much change is going on the planet, change with disastrous consequences.

[Fathom Zero]

I keep thinking, "Why do people think tornadoes are so amazing?" Then I remembered where I live. :(

[elx]

OH GODDDDD - THE WICKED WITCHES OF THE WEST ARE MELTING :(

[Dimnos]

You in tornado alley Fathom?

[Tadao]

OH GODDDDD - THE WICKED WITCHES OF THE WEST ARE MELTING :(


:rolleyes I guess drastic changes in weather patterns is too much for your brain to take in.

[Colonel Flagg]

why the crum should anyone care it's freakin' rain

Actually, looking at the news, it's not just "freakin' rain" it's 5 inches over two days (predicted) - for a region of the country that's not used to much more than an occasional shower or mild thunderstorm, this is big. Mudslides could be a problem, especially with the amount of deforestation caused by the wildfires. In short, this could turn into something very major, very quickly.

And, on a separate note, isn't there a fiscal crisis in California? Or something?

[Colonel Flagg]

I keep thinking, "Why do people think tornadoes are so amazing?" Then I remembered where I live. :(

I saw a waterspout once about 10 years ago on Lake Ontario. That was from a distance of about 20 miles or so, and it was still very impressive. :eek

[Tadao]

Our poor get the floods and the rich get mud slides, we'll be ok cause no one cares about the poor and the rich have insurance and a house on the east coast.

Yeah, we are way past out of money.

[elx]

this is not due to a radical change in climate, it has to do with the general geography. historically, tornadoes and similar storms have been a regular thing for the area, just seems rare in comparison to what the rest of us receive. (still about 1-2 times a year) what's different this time is that it's continous and being combined with flooding (which is also regular, might i add) still unimpressive.

[Tadao]

NO YOU'RE WRONG WE ARE DOOMED

[Fathom Zero]

You in tornado alley Fathom?

The home of Wayne Coyne and the last state in the union to legalize tattoos (2007), Oklahoma.

Yeah, we see several a year. And while the wonders of nature are always amazing when you stop to look, we pretty much just go "eh" until a billboard is ripped in half and cars are thrown into buildings.

In fact, I was outside a couple years ago and just watched one. The sky was the most amazing green.

[elx]

NO YOU'RE WRONG WE ARE DOOMED
http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww161/kelcnr/floaty.png

[Fathom Zero]

DUCKIES ARE DOOMED

[elx]

its a floaty :(

[Tadao]

good thing I'm 38 percent body fat, I can float to safety and last easily a week without food.

[Colonel Flagg]

It's good to be fat. :\

[Colonel Flagg]

The home of Wayne Coyne and the last state in the union to legalize tattoos (2007), Oklahoma.

And now, OK probably has more tats per capita than 90% of the rest of the USA. THAT'S PROGRESS DAMMIT!

[Colonel Flagg]

[...] historically, tornadoes and similar storms have been a regular thing for the area, [....]

Forecasters expect even stronger storms Wednesday and Thursday, following torrential rainfall Tuesday that unleashed flooding and spawned a rare tornado warning in southern California.

what's different this time is that it's continous and being combined with flooding (which is also regular, might i add) still unimpressive.

If you don't mind my asking, in what region of the country do you reside, that you consider 5" of rain in 48 hours combined with a tornado warning, and potential mudslides "unimpressive"?

EDIT - Hurricane Floyd dumped about 6" of rain in 48 hours in Southern NJ and SE PA, and washed away many homes along the Jersey coast and the Delaware River (both sides) in addition to washing away many bridges and roadways in the area many of which are still only partly passable even today. I considered that then, and still consider it today an impressive display of the power of nature.

[Dimnos]

http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/1110/1110_intro_imaginationland.jpg

[Tadao]

She's right about the tornadoes, technically we have them a lot, only thing is they are so small and cause no damage except in 08 and 05.

[elx]

If you don't mind my asking, in what region of the country do you reside, that you consider 5" of rain in 48 hours combined with a tornado warning, and potential mudslides "unimpressive"?

i've lived on the coast and throughout the states of of AL, GA, NC, SC, VA and MD. i've seen my share of huge storms - most notably living in chesapeake at the time of hurricane isabel which killed 30 people and la plata during the F4 tornado that completely pulverized our entire town and killed a handful of people. but that's not why i think this is unimpressive and my point was that this isn't the big deal everyone is making it out to be. this will blow over (literally) and in four days no one will even care.

yes there is a potential danger, but there will ALWAYS be one, it's just that usually it's earthquakes and fires.

[Tadao]

supposed to get 1 and 1/2 inch of rain per hour a few hours from now. :O

[elx]

my diagnosis is that you will live, ok? let's talk about something not so boring and un-newsworthy >:

[Tadao]

no

[elx]

fine, i hope you drown.


i'm going to go find a better thread.

[kahljorn]

If you don't mind my asking, in what region of the country do you reside, that you consider 5" of rain in 48 hours combined with a tornado warning, and potential mudslides "unimpressive"?

Sixteen years old land.

[Colonel Flagg]

Yes. Yes, I know. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

supposed to get 1 and 1/2 inch of rain per hour a few hours from now. :O

Good luck, and I hope that you and yours stay dry. :)

[kahljorn]

"what the fuck is haiti bitching about anyway? I live in california and there are earthquakes ALL THE TIME. ITS JUST A LITTLE GROUND SHAKE. GROW A PAIR OF BALLS PUSSIES."

:rolleyes

[Colonel Flagg]

i'm going to go find a better thread.

With repartée like this, it shouldn't be too hard, now should it? :(

[kahljorn]

"global warming? i live in a desert and its hot all the time. Quit bitching polar ice caps!"

[elx]

basic reasoning skills plus a knowledge of geography and climate present in a science thread? no way no how!

[kahljorn]

I still can't believe new orleans got fucked over by a god damned SEA TORNADO. what a bunch of pussies.

[kahljorn]

Can you guys believe that kenya got fucked up by a wave? ive gone to the beach before and waves aren't such a big deal.

waves are fucking everywhere.

I have fucking waves in my hair but you don't see me drowning and dying

the other day I waved at a person and they didn't duck or hide behind america.

[elx]

YES, LET'S COMPARE NORMAL WEATHER TO HAITI, KATRINA AND A TSUNAMI. LIKE A MILLION PEOPLE DIED LITERALLY BUT WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE PLACES BECAUSE THERE'S RAIN IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S GONE ON A WEEK AND NO ONE HAS DIED YET ITS STILL SOMETHING TO BECOME HYSTERICAL ABOUT.

[kahljorn]

its not normal weather.

earthquakes are pretty normal. hurricanes happen yearly :O

looking at the news, it's not just "freakin' rain" it's 5 inches over two days (predicted) - for a region of the country that's not used to much more than an occasional shower or mild thunderstorm, this is big. Mudslides could be a problem, especially with the amount of deforestation caused by the wildfires. In short, this could turn into something very major, very quickly.

how often does haiti get earthquakes and how often did new orleans suffer the brunt of the effect f or hurricanes?

[elx]

it is normal.

[kahljorn]

if it's normal then why is it called "rare" and why is it speculated that there will be many records broken including a low-pressure record?

SO NORMAL.

[Tadao]

abnormal

[Colonel Flagg]

May I interrupt the argument for a few seconds to post something of scientific interest?

http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1002/

No, this won't help the people in Haiti, nor make Katrina into a mild rain shower, but it is remarkable what astronomers can do using ground based telescopes, when just a few decades ago this kind of work was thought to be impossible even with space-based observatories.

At this rate, we're just a few years away from discovering Earth II. Paging Deborah Farentino.

[elx]

yeah, so abnormal that it was happening just a few weeks ago.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/13/california.mudslides/index.html

EDIT: bottom line - this is not rare. california regularly receives all of these things. the only reason this different from all of the other cases is that this storm was larger and therefore effects more area and stronger therefore making it more continuous. ergo, normal and very obviously expected to happen every so often.

[kahljorn]

:lol i knew you'd be googling ;)

that doesn't even have anything to do with anything that i said. "THERES RECORDS BEING PLACED ALL OVER CALIFORNIA AND TORNADOS ARE CONSIDERED RARE YET THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN ONE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME? HEY LOOK THERE WAS A MUDSLIDE."

Nice basic reasoning skills.

[elx]

i'm not sure if you're stupid or if you're trolling

[Colonel Flagg]

:rolleyes

[kahljorn]

honestly, i was hoping for another demonstration like this:
http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/showpost.php?p=658977&postcount=16

ITS BOTH NORMAL AND ABNORMAL FOR THERE TO BE STORMS AND GOOGLE SUPPORTS THIS CONCLUSION.

[executioneer]

CLEARLY THIS IS A SIGN OF THE END TIMES

[Tadao]

I heard it was cloudy before Haiti got it's big quake and it's normal for Haiti to get clouds so the earthquake was normal. It was cloudy last weak even.

[kahljorn]

last time i felt weak I collapsed too. I don't think this is a coincidence! It's all part of NORMALCY.

[Colonel Flagg]

ITS BOTH NORMAL AND ABNORMAL FOR THERE TO BE STORMS AND GOOGLE SUPPORTS THIS CONCLUSION.

SO DOES WIKIPEDIA, AND WIKIPEDIA IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

[Colonel Flagg]

IT'S LIGHT DURING THE DAY AND IT'S DARK AT NIGHT. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

[Pentegarn]

It's a conspiracy!

[Dimnos]

I blame Elvis.

[Colonel Flagg]

OK, back to science. Well, sort of. :\

This (http://www5.gelifesciences.com/APTRIX/upp01077.nsf/Content/incell_competition2009_entry) is cool - in a "look at all the pretty pictures" way. The GE IN Cell Analyzer Image Competition 2010.

[kahljorn]

Oh I didn't notice your edit:
EDIT: bottom line - this is not rare. california regularly receives all of these things. the only reason this different from all of the other cases is that this storm was larger and therefore effects more area and stronger therefore making it more continuous. ergo, normal and very obviously expected to happen every so often.and kenya regularly gets waves the only thing that was different is that this wave was larger and therefore effects more area and stronger therefore making it more damageous.

I guess ELX doesn't understand the difference between "big storm" and "small storm" or even "normal storm" and "record breaking storm." It's totally normal for records to be broken on a state-wide basis. Every day new records are made.

[kahljorn]

I skipped like four semesters worth of math today and now i can start taking the science classes i want ;X

[Tadao]

I think she has weather assburgers disease.

[kahljorn]

Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking features of AS. Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data ... without necessarily having genuine understanding of the broader topic.

:lol COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

[Sam]

:lol

[Tadao]

:O

[kahljorn]

this is like probably more important and non-coincidental than the davinci code :O

[Colonel Flagg]

Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking features of AS. Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data ... without necessarily having genuine understanding of the broader topic.

:lol COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

Did you try googling AS? :o

[Tadao]

What sucks is my Ankylosing Spondylitis is called AS :(

OH! I went in for new xrays on MLK day. Expect to see a 2 year side by side soon.

[Colonel Flagg]

Speaking of which, how are you doing, overall? Better, worse or about the same?

Inquiring minds want to know ....

And I'm assuming you didn't drown. :)

[Sam]

why would he drown, it's just a standard storm that happens all the time

[Tadao]

Big rains tonight

[Sam]

don't act like it's a big deal :rolleyes

[Dimnos]

Yeah. The little girl on the other side of the country said your going to be fine.

[kahljorn]

my internet, two light fixtures and now my laptop are all fucked up so that little girl was wrong, SOMEBODY HAS BEEN HURT :(:(:(:(

[Chojin]

i was gonna post something mean about elx and kahl and their thoughts on fitness in this thread, then i deleted it after i thought it was needlessly rude

maybe i should hang up the trollin boots, guys.

[Guitar Woman]

Elx is either an expert troll or incredibly naive and gullible

Maybe stupid, too

[The Leader]

She's 17 and has aspergers or something like that. :\

[kahljorn]

i was gonna post something mean about elx and kahl and their thoughts on fitness in this thread, then i deleted it after i thought it was needlessly rude

Oh no fatness expert chojin was going to post something about how he knows everything about fatness.

[Wiffles]

I wonder if the gravity field generated by a heavyset individual can be calculated. And how it influences orbiting bodies in motion @@;

[Fathom Zero]

Everything creates a gravitational field, everything that has mass, anyway. :rolleyes

But that of a person would be rather insignificant.

[Colonel Flagg]

I was discussing this with a "former" member of this fine board. The consensus was that if you were fat enough, you could have Trojan points, where you could store random bits of food for emergencies. Wouldn't that be cool?

If you were really fat, if you were able to jump off the Earth, it might start revolving around you.

[Colonel Flagg]

Just in case you think I'm being serious, I'm not.

[kahljorn]

LIAR

[Colonel Flagg]

MAYBE.

[kahljorn]

I THINK I WOULD KNOW

[The Leader]

you could have Trojan points
Are those like lagrange points, or however you spell it?

[kahljorn]

what he meant was chojin points.

[Sam]

I have two Chojin points

[Colonel Flagg]

Are those like lagrange points, or however you spell it?

Yes, they're special cases of LaGrange points (I can't be bothered right now to look it up). I think they are in the same orbit as the planet to which they are associated, L4 (forward) and L5 (retro).

what he meant was chojin points.

:lol

[Colonel Flagg]

This is for Kitsa:

http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news-IN-What-Were-They-Drinking-Researchers-Investigate-Radioactive-Crock-Pots-012210.aspx?wnnvz=1743,01283672320

Important health tip - don't drink water that glows in the dark.

[elx]

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/01/27/obama-budget-drop-nasa-constellation-program/
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[executioneer]

b-because we're gonna focus on manned Mars missions, right? :(

[elx]

more like goodbye U.S space program



http://news.discovery.com/space/nasa-former-administrator-weighs-in-on-obama-no-moon-plan.html

[Zhukov]

Earth first, THEN space.

[Zhukov]

Also, this is so that they don't have to land anyone on the moon because that would prove that the original landing site isn't how it was supposed to be.

[elx]

i hope you trip into a russian rocket and die

[Zhukov]

:lol

[Colonel Flagg]

more like goodbye U.S space program

How about let's just wait and see what the plan actually is, shall we?

And let's not forget that, as the story states, Congress controls whether the budget gets passed into law. All the president can do is propose it.

All bets will be off, incidentally, if we find oil reserves in Mare Orientale.

[Chojin]

I wonder if the gravity field generated by a heavyset individual can be calculated. And how it influences orbiting bodies in motion @@;

lol i read this as "gravy field"

[Chojin]

9bMteFx8LbM

jesus christ this girl is hot :<

[elx]

How about let's just wait and see what the plan actually is, shall we?

And let's not forget that, as the story states, Congress controls whether the budget gets passed into law. All the president can do is propose it.

All bets will be off, incidentally, if we find oil reserves in Mare Orientale.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8489097.stm
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[Fathom Zero]

Our president is a cunt. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

I hope Congress has some cajones.

Oh, that's right, they don't. :\

As a scientist, I find this more than a little disconcerting, as the moon is by far and away the best nearby source of He(III) which is one of the better feedstocks for a potential commercial fusion reactor. As a taxpayer, however, I understand the need to make hard budget decisions.

I hope that there are enough wild speculators out there to keep the research going (as in the case of stem cell research) so that even without federal funding the science still advances (and maybe even gets better).

Ah, I'm just rationalizing. :(

[Fathom Zero]

It's the fucking Moon. That's reason enough. We should be trying to colonize/exploit anything we can land on.

[Chojin]

Things cost money, it turns out.

You probably can't both trim the deficit and engage in lunar expeditions. Blame the yokel who thought we needed to invade the middle east for our current lack of U.S.S. Enterprises.

[Tadao]

pretty much, you could start a fundraiser if you care that much

[Tadao]

Here is something way more important.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html

[Fathom Zero]

That looks important.
You probably can't both trim the deficit...You gave me quite the chuckle, there.

[elx]

w/e

[elx]

and ever

[Colonel Flagg]

Who wants to be Spiderman? :)

http://www.rdmag.com/News/2010/02/Materials-Science-Palm-sized-adhesive-device-could-let-humans-walk-on-walls/

[Tadao]

http://ugliesttattoos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/spiderman3.jpg

This guy.

[Colonel Flagg]

Damned firewall! >:

[Tadao]

NEW YORK -- Virgin unveiled the latest addition to Richard Branson's luxury fleet on Friday: an underwater plane that will fly riders into the depths of the Caribbean Sea.
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/fi/27/28/07.jpg
:eek
http://finance.yahoo.com/retirement/article/108737/branson-goes-20000-leagues-under-the-Sea?mod=retire-planning

[executioneer]

which virgin unveiled it though, it doesn't say

[Tadao]

You can see the logo on the ship :(

[executioneer]

maaaan that isn't how that joke was supposed to go :(

[Tadao]

Seals? I auditioned for this job!

[Chojin]

You gave me quite the chuckle, there.

Cutting lunar mission funding is part of the effort starting next year to trim the deficit. This is what I was referring to. Obviously more money was added to the deficit during Obama's term thus far since the focus at that time was avoiding a depression, but even then he added far less money to the debt than Bush did.

[Colonel Flagg]

THe way I read it, the Constellation program was already waaaaaaay behind schedule, and while $9B has already been spent, it was predicted to go waaaaaaay over budget. Even Buzz Aldrin, one of the more vocal advocates of the space program, stated that this was the right move.

He's not cutting NASA's budget by much, if at all, just reprioritizing the money with funding going to more development rather than going into this single project.

I need to research the implications in more depth, but for right now, it seems that there is more to this story than just Obama cutting the moon program.

[Fathom Zero]

Cutting lunar mission funding is part of the effort starting next year to trim the deficit. This is what I was referring to. Obviously more money was added to the deficit during Obama's term thus far since the focus at that time was avoiding a depression, but even then he added far less money to the debt than Bush did.
I get that, I get that. I really do. He had a big mess to clean up. I concede that such a thing had to be done to avoid even more of a catastrophe, though there are some things I would've done differently. If I could do that, though, I wouldn't be in school at the moment. I'd probably have my own bank.

I was trying to get your goat, playing the obnoxious conservative.

[Zhukov]

Take it to the politics forum >:

[Fathom Zero]

That's why I didn't go into it any more, maaaaaan

[Dimnos]

-ew0bn8mGAA

[Fathom Zero]

God, I love TED.

[Colonel Flagg]

Dr. Whitesides' talk epitomizes my life - make expensive testing equipment cheap, and idiot-proof. He's more successful at it than I. :(

Excellent talk, though.

[Colonel Flagg]

For all the environmentalists out there, including myself, this (http://www.rdmag.com/News/2010/02/Materials-Aerogel-Material-Absorbs-Oil-Spills/?wnnvz=1737,01291069827)is an intriguing development. Not only will it absorb the oil, but it leaves clean water behind, and allows for reuse of said oil. It's made from clay and plastic, and is 96% empty space.

If only we had this during the spill in PWS.

[Dixie]

ok so i've decided after 12 days of torture to not take the bactrim anymore. my allergies to it were getting worse and worse and i haven't slept in days because of it. stupid sulfa drugs.

[Tadao]

I still willing to give you some of my special lotion.

[The Leader]

He makes it himself.

[executioneer]

WITH HIS WEINER

wait no

i think i did something wrong, shit

do-overs

[Dixie]

it's official i have mrsa and a new rx for a shit ton of clindamycin

[kahljorn]

:(
good luck

[Colonel Flagg]

I'll be virtually pulling for you too. :)

EDIT: Caps, Ointment or IV?

[executioneer]

oh man fuck mrsa right in the vacuole

[Colonel Flagg]

Aren't AB combinations more of a normal treatment for MRSA? Or is this drug so potent that they think it can knock out the Staph infection solo?

Good luck in any event.

[Dixie]

well i'm still on cephalexin as well, but i'm on such an unusually high dosage of the clindamycin that the pharmacist had to come talk to me about it.
there are clindamycin resisitant strains of the mrsa, but since i had this stuff in iv form and it didn't fuck me up they felt comfortable giving me the pills.
plus my doctor hates me because he's prolife and all i can talk about is killing my fetus.

[executioneer]

oh suure he'll work really hard to kill all those innocent staphylococcus aureus bacterium but the larger parasites, oh nooooo THAT'S wrong :rolleyes

[Dixie]

he won't write me a note saying that i'm healthy enough for a nonsurgical termination.
>:|

[executioneer]

how do these people become doctors

[Dixie]

he graduated in 72, i think that has something to do with it

[executioneer]

people like this cause hundreds of women to die every year, you know

fucking murderers, we should bomb them

[Dixie]

oh i'm very well aware.
i was very honest and told them how much i drink and all the drugs i did on tour while i was pregnant before i knew and he still won't help me.
he WANTS me to have a retard child.
and i will say this much, if i can't get help with termination legally i will damn sure make it happen illegally.

[kahljorn]

go to another doctor?
tel him you'll press charges against him?
planned parenthood?

[Dixie]

i'm only seeing this doctor because i have no money and was in the emergency room at his hospital twice. don't really have the money to switch doctors.
what charges? he's allowed to refuse to be a part of something he doesn't believe in since i'm not a regular patient. it just makes things a bit harder for me.
planned parenthood wants a note.

i'm going to call some clinics today and just not mention the infection or my antibiotics so i can just take the goodamn abortion pill and get it over with.

[Colonel Flagg]

[...] what charges? he's allowed to refuse to be a part of something he doesn't believe in since i'm not a regular patient. it just makes things a bit harder for me.

What a dick.

And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

[Colonel Flagg]

I'd write you a note, Dix, but I'm not a "medical" doctor.

However, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :lol2

[Colonel Flagg]

i'm going to call some clinics today and just not mention the infection or my antibiotics so i can just take the goodamn abortion pill and get it over with.

What infection? What antibiotics? I know NOOOOOOTHING! :shultzie

Just please check for potential interactions on teh interwebs. www.rxlist.com (http://www.rxlist.com) is a good place to start.

[Dixie]

when my ride gets back in town i'll make an appointment for the deed.
i already checked my meds against the death pill.
i've been on so many pills and had to use extra medication to "fix" the side effects that i cannot live without a drug interaction checker at this point! a very good resource!

[Colonel Flagg]

Good luck. And I mean it sincerely.

[Evil Robot]

I bet the doctor only hates you because your a pretentious asshole who brought the infection upon yourself by not bathing enough.

[executioneer]

what's your damage, evil robot

[The Leader]

He's the father. :(

[Dixie]

evil robot is just menstruating and jealous that he's not the one getting an abortion.

[Evil Robot]

oh i'm very well aware.
i was very honest and told them how much i drink and all the drugs i did on tour while i was pregnant before i knew and he still won't help me.
he WANTS me to have a retard child.
and i will say this much, if i can't get help with termination legally i will damn sure make it happen illegally.

Why don't you kill the kid after it's born? Better yet, let it live until it's 18 and then ask it if it would like to die. When people ask what happened to it you could leave key facts out of your story like you have done here in order to garner sympathy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro-life. In fact I agree that you should kill it since you might have made it "retarded" and that it would bring down your good time.

[Dixie]

i didn't know i was pregnant with my ex boyfriend's child when i left for the tour.

the only reason i found out i was pregnant was because i had to spend the night in the hospital because of a horrible drug allergy to vancomycin.

i've never wanted children and i use condoms, it wasn't like i was being irresponsible, but no method is 100% besides abstinence and i can't go for that. i'm very sorry you have abstinence forced upon you, but the rest of us don't have such a simple solution.

sorry i left that stuff out. better?

[Evil Robot]

But you don't know if the child is "tarded" or not, you just want dead just in case. Do you have any nazis in your family?

[Dixie]

i want it dead period.
and yes, i'm a bit german.
ACHTUNG!

[Evil Robot]

After telling us that you just want it dead are you still going to rationalize it to people by saying it had fetal alcohol syndrome even though you have never had a doctor examine the fetus to see if that's true? You come here playing everybody for suckers when the real reason is that your to emotionally weak to stay sober for 9 months. You probably cant even fall asleep without getting loaded.

[Dixie]

i want it dead because i don't want kids, least of all the child of an ex who doesn't want it either.
perfectly rational to me.
i'd get my tubes tied but the doctors won't do it on someone as young as myself.

i didn't try to rationalize it as saying the kid's fucked up already (which it very likely is), i just don't want children, never have. i wouldn't be a good mother, i know this. i don't have to rationalize it to myself nor anyone else. i don't even know why you care. my sobriety isn't of question either. i like to drink, i drink damn near everyday, but i haven't had any alcohol since i started my antibiotics and i'm counting down the days til i can drink again. i'm a pothead and a heavy drinker, sue me, but that isn't why i want to get rid of it.

[Evil Robot]

i was very honest and told them how much i drink and all the drugs i did on tour while i was pregnant before i knew and he still won't help me.
he WANTS me to have a retard child.
Did you really think that the doctor wasn't going to see right through this half assed lie? You told him you had a legitimate concern for the child but he obviously knew its because you don't want to take responsibility for your actions.
You can say the doctor is pro life but the real reason he won't help you is that he saw you as just a spoiled brat little kid who wants to take the path of least resistance.

Since your going to do it no matter what let me give you a few pointers:
1) Don't ever do the math to figure out what the birthday would have been.
2) Don't think about what life would be like if you had the child. Especially don't do it a few times per hour everyday for the rest of your life.
3) Don't ever look at another child (see number 2).
4) Don't ever tell people about this because no matter what they say on the surface about how you did the right thing, in the back of their minds they will think much less of you for not giving it up for adoption instead of killing it
5) Don't ever change your mind about having kids 20 years from now. Your not planning on becoming more mature are you? This one should be easy because people rarely change their minds about decisions they made when they were kids.


Your probably right though, if a child cant grow up under ideal conditions it shouldnt grow up at all. I mean it was an accident, not like when you were born. I'm sure your parents were fully prepared and overjoyed about that.

[Dixie]

i really don't have much of a conscience for a fetus. this won't be my first abortion. save your pretend guilt trip for someone who'll care.
i am selfish, so what? it's better than being another deadbeat on welfare.

[Evil Robot]

I just feel people should read your previous post before they feel sorry for you since that asshole doctor fucked you over so bad. I can't stand when people drum up the pity card when the reality is that thier selfish. And don't give me any of the "I don't want your pity" bullshit because if that were true you wouldn't have posted your plight for the world to see and you sure as shit would have phrased things a little differently.

EVIL ROBOT RULES

[Dixie]

forgive me for expressing displeasure with a pro-life doctor. i'll be sure never to do such a thing again.
:rolleyes

[executioneer]

also remember everytime you ovulate without getting pregnant you are WASTING YOUR SEED AND THAT IS A CRIME AGAINST THE JESUS MAN

GET PREGNATN EVERY DAY :420babies

[Evil Robot]

forgive me for expressing displeasure with a pro-life doctor. i'll be sure never to do such a thing again.
:rolleyes

I said EVIL ROBOT RULES

:rolleyes

[Dixie]

you still haven't forgiven me, you dick.

[Evil Robot]

I said EVIL ROBOT RULES

:rolleyes:

[Dimnos]

4) Don't ever tell people about this because no matter what they say on the surface about how you did the right thing, in the back of their minds they will think much less of you for not giving it up for adoption instead of killing it

:(

Oh and...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUD

[Dimnos]

While I think Evil Robot is coming on a bit strong, he has a some good points. I do think you should hold off on aborting it until you get some tests done to find out if it is indeed "retarded" before you make a decision. If its not "retarded" (or even if it is) you should really consider adoption before abortion. Then again it is your body, this is America and I believe in your right to chose. :\

[Fathom Zero]

She could scour the insides of her uterus with a belt sander if she feels like it. She's not obligated to anybody because she has a culture of cells inside her which may or may not be of some worth.

[Dixie]

i'd really rather just get fixed so any ability to procreate is gone, i know i never want children and that's better for everyone. not that you guys know nor care, but i have issues carrying to full term anyhow due to cancer a few years ago and a butcher doctor and an early abortion is alot less painful than a 3-5 month miscarriage. if i could get my tubes tied, i would have several years ago but i have to wait til i'm 35 because of ethics.