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Geggy
Sep 18th, 2009, 12:21 AM
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TV episode Lone Gunman aired 7 months before 9/11

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs115.snc1/4700_1183379104267_1221914078_30539786_8206595_n.j pg

Osama Bin Laden pictured on the cover of the proposal for the exercise.

http://www.the7thfire.com/images/1997%20FEMA%20Cover.jpg

Geggy
Sep 18th, 2009, 12:32 AM
A couple of funny quotes by George W. Bush

"We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th, malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty."
11/10/01
http://www.un.org/webcast/ga/56/statements/011110usaE.htm

Q One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country. And another thing is that, how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack? (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Jordan. Well, Jordan, you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my Chief of Staff, Andy Card -- actually, I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident.

But I was whisked off there, I didn't have much time to think about it..."

12/4/01
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011204-17.html

Tadao
Sep 18th, 2009, 04:24 AM
IDK, I grew up in the Reagan era. I think 80's punks had a bigger grasp on what is really going on than any other generation. The problem is that is is so ugly that we will never believe that our government is capable of being loving towards us. I actually think they will do any thing to divide the middle class. ANYTHING. :tear

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 03:22 PM
So my question is, if we didn't fake the moon landing, how did fucking indians find water on the moon?

I thought there was nothing left to go there for?

Either Americans are dipshits or they faked the moon landing

(or i guess that story could be fake or the science that made the discovery could be flawed but yea, given these aren't true...)

Dr. Boogie
Sep 24th, 2009, 04:17 PM
A PA dropped a couple ice cubes on the set, and India only just now saw them in the pics.

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 04:20 PM
:lol

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 04:21 PM
I bet everybody who argued in defense of their precious lunar landing feels a bit foolish now :O

its just too bad that pussy metal militia will never find out about it

Chojin
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:06 PM
i thought you could see the flag we planted there with a telescope?

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Dude of course the flag has always been a natural geographic formation, the Americans just stole it and used it for their flag.

Is there some kind of horrible truth not having gone to the moon will prove? I don't see why you faggots think it's such a big deal.

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:16 PM
i thought you could see the flag we planted there with a telescope?

No

Is there some kind of horrible truth not having gone to the moon will prove?

I don't see why you faggots think it's such a big deal.

Nothing your tiny mind would understand.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:17 PM
http://anothershittyblogbysomedouche.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tin-foil-hat.jpg

NOTHING YOUR TINY MIND WOULD UNDERSTAND

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:19 PM
i thought you could see the flag we planted there with a telescope?



No that's just a slide they'll put into telescopes to convince people that we landed there.

Is there some kind of horrible truth not having gone to the moon will prove?

No, it's just a lie. Kinda like how you lied about being a girl to get acceptance but in reality you were an ugly guy and the only horrible truth it revealed is that behind all of the crap was an ugly asshole guy. Similarly, america lied to get acceptance and praise but in reality, behind all the lies and bullshit, it was just an ugly guy who had never actually been to the moon :O

It also kind of makes our scientists look like idiots.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:20 PM
They are, though

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:22 PM
(pic)

NOTHING YOUR TINY MIND WOULD UNDERSTAND


Yes, that is what I said. You are small minded. You can't understand what it means when the government that controls your well being puts out a massive lie in order to control how you think of them and what you are willing to do for them.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:25 PM
You mean like every other government in the entire fucking history of civilization?

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:26 PM
I was thinking about this and I realized that there's no real reason to talk to guitar woman.

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:26 PM
You mean like every other government in the entire fucking history of civilization?

Yes. I guess this leads to another gay question you can't understand. Go ahead.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:27 PM
Now you're thinking like real conspiracy theorists, guys, good job.

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:28 PM
Way to end it! You all like :hat guys!

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:28 PM
no we aren't.

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:29 PM
It's no wonder he can't get past certain levels in a game and then says it sucks and the programmers are gay.

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:30 PM
If we were thinking like conspiracy theororists we would be saying that every piece of evidence you can submit to the contrary of our conspiracy theory is just part of the cover up.

BUT GOOD JOB I THINK UR THE ONE THAST RTRICKED US INTA THINKAN LOIKE A CONSPIR THEORORIS

guitar woman saves another thread :rolleyes

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:31 PM
By which I mean "I REFUSE TO AKNOWLEDGE APATHY OR THE POSSIBILITY THAT I COULD BE WRONG, SO I AM JUST GOING TO CALL YOU OUT FOR VARIOUS UNRELATED PERSONALITY FLAWS!"

I don't really give a shit whether or not we landed on the moon, you guys are just treating it like a bigger deal than it is. The government lying to us? God damn, what a shocker. I do not think I will ever recover from this realization!

Did you guys know MSNBC swings a liberal bias and that their stories are often skewed as such? Gasp!

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:32 PM
What?

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Hey Kahl, have you signed up for my conspiracy theory web page I created. It's all a really big deal to me. I heard you are all crazy about it too.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Why so serious, basically

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:35 PM
It's funny, cause you are the one all serious.

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:35 PM
Bias is not the same as lying outright, and its not our government.

the important thing about the government lying is not that the governments lie, but that there is something else to discover. Kind of like when you lied about being a girl it wasn't just the lie about the girl that was important, it was that behind that lie there's a truth to be discovered. The truth that you're a boy.

see? Now we can go on to discover more truths about the moon like that it can support life or that maybe aliens already live there or maybe the illuminati retires there :O

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:37 PM
No bu tif I had known that you had a conspiracy website I wouldn't be wasting my time posting all of my dearest ideas on this website just so unbelievers like guitar woman could blast them with her unenlightened mind.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:37 PM
"I REFUSE TO AKNOWLEDGE APATHY OR THE POSSIBILITY THAT I COULD BE WRONG, SO I AM JUST GOING TO CALL YOU OUT FOR VARIOUS UNRELATED PERSONALITY FLAWS!"

I guess this is basically just acting like a poster on I-Mockery, though

Sorry, legitimate crazies

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:38 PM
I guess the most important thing to discover is why anyone should give a shit

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Why shouldn't we give a shit you emo fag?

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Really think about this guitar woman:
When everybody found out that you weren't the girl that you pretended to be, what did it mean? Really, when you think about it, people's minds were probably spinning, the fact that you're not the girl that you said you were doesn't necessarily mean anything about you. You could've been another girl: An ugly one, maybe a crippled one, or a retarded one. or you could've been a hermaphrodite. Or you coulda been an old lady trying to scam on young dudes, or a girl who wished to remain anonymous and unidentified. We just don't know. It wasn't until certain persons really put aside their preconceptions that we could discover the true truth

but the most important thing was when it was announced to the world that it was all a sham. THINGS CHANGED GUITAR WOMAN. YOU SHOULD KNOW.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:42 PM
Why shouldn't we give a shit you emo fag?
Because landing on the moon isn't even remotely important? I mean, we beat the Russians in a dick-waving contest, but who cares anymore?

Now, lying about waltzing around on a rock in space carries significantly less weight than, say, blowing up two skyscrapers and one funny-shaped building and killing thousands of people. I could see people caring about that and get why.

I don't think the government was behind 9/11, though. That's just retarded.

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:42 PM
if you're so apathetic about it why are you here condemning us for it?

Shouldn't you be off not caring about it somewhere?

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Lying about waltzing around on a rock in space carries significantly less weight than, say, blowing up two skyscrapers and one funny-shaped building and killing thousands of people.

it challenges all of the scientific discoveries and decisions they have made about the moon and space since then. A few thousand people dying is less important than that. Thousands of people die all the time: discovering the true truth about space can only happen so many times...

I don't think the government was behind that, though. That's just retarded.

But I thought EVERYBODY knew that guberments lie.

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:45 PM
:lol

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:46 PM
Well, I was asking a question, and you responded by saying that I lied about being a girl and the government is evil and I also was a stupid head and other mean stuff. I think I'm within my right to be a little defensive.

I should probably be painting my house, kahl, but I just woke up and want to finish my omelette.

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Space sucks

Unless Kubrick is involved, and even then the best part was the ape-men learning to use weapons to wreck shit

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:49 PM
You're SUCH a little adult!

Did I say the government was evil?

Lets say your mom lied to you about being a girl your whole life, since you were a little kid she told you that you were a little girl. but finally when you got older and saw another girls vagina y ou realized that you had a penis and you were actually a boy. Don't you think that would change things, and wouldn't you like to know that you're actually male and not female?
I mean think about it then you could start wearing pants instead of skirts, you wouldn't have to wear bras and you could play football. That's exactly like the importance of finding out that our government lied about going to the moon and then reported all these scientific discoveries (which can be akin to you wearing skirts) which weren't actually true to the fact!

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:50 PM
I THINK WE GOT OVER ME NOT BEING A GIRL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, JUTTIN

FEEL FREE TO MENTION IT EVERY TIME I HAPPEN TO POST, THOUGH

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:53 PM
I also don't think your analogy is very good, because I would probably just be confused and need lots of therapy for a while and they'd put me in a foster home away from my mommy.

IF YOU WANT A METAPHOR OUT OF THAT, THE GUBMENT (MY MOM) SHIT ON THE ECONOMY (LIED ABOUT MY GENDER) SO I AM MOVING TO AUSTRALIA (GETTING PUT IN FOSTER CARE)

Foster's is Australian for beer, too! Ho ho ho!

It's skunky beer, though.

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:54 PM
i was only trying to help you understand the importance of this by using an example that you would understand.

Space sucks

Unless Kubrick is involved, and even then the best part was the ape-men learning to use weapons to wreck shit

Nobody cares about what you like.

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:55 PM
because I would probably just be confused and need lots of therapy for a while and they'd put me in a foster home away from my mommy.

Therapy=Scientific studies to discover the truth
Foster home away from mommy=India.

lol
or scientists who don't lie.

Dimnos
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I'm actually in the middle of a "movie" called "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon". Nothing to interesting yet. They talk about the Van Allen Belt, but I haven't read too much on it to decide if it would have killed them or not.

Just watch this instead. Its way better.

http://www.clown-ministry.com/buster-keaton/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-forum-zero-mostel-phil-silvers-buster-keaton.jpg

Guitar Woman
Sep 24th, 2009, 05:56 PM
I care.

The Leader
Sep 24th, 2009, 06:51 PM
So my question is, if we didn't fake the moon landing, how did fucking indians find water on the moon?

I thought there was nothing left to go there for?

Either Americans are dipshits or they faked the moon landing

(or i guess that story could be fake or the science that made the discovery could be flawed but yea, given these aren't true...)
You didn't read the whole article because it states that there was water found in the moon rocks that were brought back but it was assumed that they had been contaminated and the water was from the earth's air, which I don't think is true if this article really is from this year because I've heard about water in lunar soil and have even seen a special on television that showed how it could be extracted from lunar dust.

The Leader
Sep 24th, 2009, 06:52 PM
That and what kind of a name is "Sunshine?"

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 07:10 PM
You didn't read the whole article because it states that there was water found in the moon rocks that were brought back but it was assumed that they had been contaminated and the water was from the earth's airYea, which makes them retarded scientists because they didn't go back to check their answer which they hadn't tested for and just assumed that there wasn't water based on the assumption that the water that was in the rocks must've come from earth's air.
This is in reference to what the initial scientists supposedly thought.

Tadao
Sep 24th, 2009, 07:15 PM
NASA, the same people who erased over the original moon landing tapes because they needed them to record something else. I have yet to find out what that something else was. Yes, that was what they said.

Wiffles
Sep 24th, 2009, 07:29 PM
NASA, the same people who erased over the original moon landing tapes because they needed them to record something else. I have yet to find out what that something else was. Yes, that was what they said.

Probably Happy Days episodes..


Also nice Yakui avatar GW :)

kahljorn
Sep 24th, 2009, 07:31 PM
i was picturing macguyver :(

Geggy
Sep 25th, 2009, 12:40 AM
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs010.snc1/4460_1174767568984_1221914078_30507455_3155034_n.j pg
Corando Naval Base in San Diego, CA

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_02/NaziBuildingAP_468x322.jpg

To its 117 elderly residents, Wesley Acres is simply a peaceful place to pass their twilight years.
Only when viewed from above does it become apparent that the retirement home is built in the shape of a giant swastika.
Following complaints, steps are being taken to alter the shape of the 1980-built establishment in Decatur, Alabama, so it is no longer a symbol of Nazi power.
But the question remains: Was Wesley Acres merely an accident or an expression of far-Right beliefs by its planners?
Prompted by complaints from a Jewish activist, the agency that owns the government-funded building is planning to alter its shape to disguise the Nazi symbol.
Avrahaum Segol, an Israeli-American researcher, claims the swastika shape is homage to German scientists who designed the V2 rockets launched against Allied targets in World War II.
The scientists were brought to nearby Huntsville after the war to work on the NASA spaceships which would eventually put man on the moon.
Mr Segol calls the Alabama retirement home a "sister building" to a swastika-shaped barracks at Naval Base Coronado in California and says they were both part of a government-funded conspiracy to honour Nazis.
But Mike Giles, a lawyer for the Methodist Homes Corporation of Alabama, said the conspiracy claims are "ridiculous," adding: "It was certainly not intentional."
"The difficulty is there are a limited number of options for fixing a building that has been there for some time.
"We have to come up with a way to fix an appearance that we want solved and not hurt our residents."
Wesley Acres provides government-subsidized housing for 117 low-income people ages 62 and above. Most have no reason to suspect their hallways take on a sinister shape.
The one-story building, designed in the mid-1970s and completed in 1980, underwent £500,000 alteration in 2001 with funding from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development following complaints by Democratic Sen. Howell Heflin, who has since died.
But the addition of two wings did little to hide the offensive shape - and in some ways accentuates it.
Options for the new renovations include the addition of covered porches or other outdoor areas.
The latest push to rid the landscape of the broken cross shape follows complaints from Segol, the same Israeli-American researcher who last fall helped publicise a swastika-shaped barracks at Naval Base Coronado in San Diego.
The Navy said it would spend about £300,180 to alter the building, which opened in the 1960s, but the work has not yet been done.
Segol calls the Alabama retirement home a "sister swastika" to the building in California and says they were both part of a tangled, government-funded conspiracy to honour Nazis.
The shape of the retirement centre is evident in satellite photos available on the Internet.
But it is located in a residential section in a city with few tall buildings, and many in Decatur have no idea Wesley Acres resembles a swastika.
Mr Giles said any changes to the building must be relatively inexpensive since the agency lacks money for an elaborate solution.
Planners are considering modifications, he said, "so that from the air it takes your eye away from what was originally there."

Geggy
Sep 25th, 2009, 12:44 AM
Mural paintings at Denver Airport
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/Denver2a.jpg
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/Denver3a.jpg

More here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_denver02.htm

kahljorn
Sep 25th, 2009, 01:37 AM
haha i heard about those paintings on that consiracy radio station supposedly there's also a gigantic underground military structure or tunnels etc.
probably built by lizards.

Chojin
Sep 25th, 2009, 03:32 AM
man, those murals make me wanna be a nazi too.

Geggy
Sep 25th, 2009, 06:18 AM
come join us before its too late. we've got little boys waiting for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund

Dimnos
Oct 5th, 2009, 09:13 AM
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/10/04/triforce-dollar.jpg

:hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno :hypno

Geggy
Oct 22nd, 2009, 03:26 AM
MKULTRA Legacy: The Stain of Dishonor and the Prerequisites for Redemption
Sunday 18 October 2009
by: Gordon P. Erspamer, t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

Despite the passage of four decades, America and its military have never come to grips with its own ghastly programs of using soldiers as guinea pigs to test chemical or biological weapons such as LSD, sarin, nerve gases, plague, mescaline, anthrax and hundreds of others. At the same time, they also conducted mind-control experiments, as soldiers and others were administered drugs, and septal implants were inserted in the sinus cavities a la "The Manchurian Candidate." The secret research programs, originally code-named MKULTRA but continued under a long succession of other code names, were conducted mainly by the US Army from 1943 until at least 1975. However, the CIA provided planning, financial support and field testing. Participants in the experiments were recruited by the Army and lured by promises of no KP duty, a four-day workweek, the promise of medals and special recognition. At the same time, they were sworn to secrecy and forced to sign a general consent form without informed consent or even knowing the nature of the toxic substances that were sprayed in their faces, applied to their skin or injected into their veins. And the government continues to try to hide the fact that Nazi members were recruited to help devise these experiments as part of Operation Paperclip, and that many of the biological experiments were modeled after those conducted by the notorious Col. Shiro Ishi in Manchuria and Japan.

More: http://www.truthout.org/101809C

Geggy
Oct 22nd, 2009, 03:27 AM
this link came from the article which i thought was interesting.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/Hearing03.htm

Colonel Flagg
Oct 22nd, 2009, 01:23 PM
Despite the passage of four decades, America and its military have never come to grips with its own ghastly programs of using soldiers as guinea pigs to test chemical or biological weapons such as LSD, sarin, nerve gases, plague, mescaline, anthrax and hundreds of others.

Wasn't one of those drugs code-named "The Ladder"?

doopa
Oct 30th, 2009, 05:07 AM
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/40598119.html

Tadao
Oct 30th, 2009, 12:54 PM
That's awesome doopa! TYVM

Dr. Boogie
Oct 30th, 2009, 04:23 PM
It's not working on me. She still looks man-ish.

Tadao
Oct 30th, 2009, 04:37 PM
It says she's a Free Mason and out to mind control us. :eek

Babs
Oct 30th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Ann Coulter is really Andy Kaufman

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:06 AM
I believe in reality that isn't dictated to me by some news caster reading from a script. Nor am I susceptible to group think pressure.

I'm not apart of the herd and I won't be culled.

Esuohlim
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:09 AM
I hear you, brother. Those Washington fat cats and hospital ne'er-do-wells keep peddling antibiotics, but come one, where's the scientific backup??

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 09:31 AM
I hear you, brother. Those Washington fat cats and hospital ne'er-do-wells keep peddling antibiotics, but come one, where's the scientific backup??

I agree with the Washington Fat cats part but I don't understand the Hospital / anit-biotic comment.

Zhukov
Mar 24th, 2010, 10:00 AM
How do you know they are fat cats?

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:09 AM
http://www.ae911truth.org/

I believe all these architects and engineers. :love

Zhukov
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:14 AM
Christ, what's the point. No wonder they banned you from your last forum.

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:22 AM
How do you know they are fat cats?

If you don't know this then you haven't done enough independent research.

Tadao
Mar 24th, 2010, 11:35 AM
independent research :lol

The Leader
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:16 PM
I believe in reality that isn't dictated to me by some news caster reading from a script. Nor am I susceptible to group think pressure.

I'm not apart of the herd and I won't be culled.
:lol

Zhukov
Mar 24th, 2010, 12:45 PM
What kind of independent research? I mean, really. What independent research have you done into the lives of unnameable 'fat-cats'?

What possible research could you have done? Delved into their bank accounts? Whose bank accounts? You don't even know WHO.


Coolinator, what independent research have you done that led you to believe that "those Washington fat cats" are indeed, fat cats? And if you come back with "The independent research I have done is my own independent research" then I will fucking kill everyone on my street before ending my own life.

You CAN'T do independent research into this sort of thing, you have to listen to what other people tell you, you have to... become part of the herd. Here's the thing, I would probably agree with you, but the information that led me to believe what I believe has been passed on to me by someone else in most cases. It doesn't make you "part of the herd", it makes you part of a larger community of humanity, where it is impossible to know everything about the world around you from first-hand experience.

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:17 PM
What kind of independent research? I mean, really. What independent research have you done into the lives of unnameable 'fat-cats'?

I was just agreeing with what Esuohlim said, you have to point your question at him, not me. I was just saying if you don't have any idea at all who these "fat-cats" are then you need to do more independent research. Meaning you read other peoples works and then come to your own conclusion about the situation.

You can do it. I believe in you.

What possible research could you have done? Delved into their bank accounts? Whose bank accounts? You don't even know WHO.

Who are you even talking about? I agreed with a general statement from Esuohlim. Why are you going crazy about this? If you gave me a specific occurance of corruption and or manipulation of the political economic structure then maybe I can shoot out a few names but I don't know who he was referring to. All I know from past research is that private interests attempt to steer things in their favor and most if not all of these interests come from wealthy sources.


You CAN'T do independent research into this sort of thing, you have to listen to what other people tell you, you have to...

I think I answered this above. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.

Tadao
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:42 PM
He's an asspie. He doesn't realize that Milhouse was mocking him. :lol

Zhukov
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:45 PM
. Meaning you read other peoples works and then come to your own conclusion about the situation.


Reading someone's research is in the same vein as listening to a news reader, like a sheep. There is an element of trust involved.

You are in a different herd, that is all.

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:55 PM
Reading someone's research is in the same vein as listening to a news reader, like a sheep. There is an element of trust involved.

You are in a different herd, that is all.

No,

Even after you read something that is heavily biased you have to come to your own conclusion about the subject. Even the most hated news sources (Fox) has a grain of truth in them. You have to read between the lines. You don't come to their conclusion you make up your own mind.

Hence "independent" research.

Tadao
Mar 24th, 2010, 01:57 PM
:lol Please don't breed, I don't want to pay for your kids ass kicking.

WhiteRat
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:00 PM
America is being sucked into a massive Zionist conspiracy on a global scale and the sheeple in this country are wearing blindfolds. The World Bank and it's Shylock handlers are pulling the puppet strings of this country and no one wants to wake up and realize what is going on. The Zionists main tool is Hollywood and the media. If you watch CBS Evening News with Katie Couric and don't see obvious Zionist leanings you are no better than the rest of the brainwashed masses in this country. I could give more examples but I would be typing forever.

edit:
great reading here:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/39745

Zhukov
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:01 PM
Yes, but that "grain of truth" can be true, a lie, or anything in between. In most peoples cases, they hear what they want to hear and take that as truth, and anything they don't want to hear is dismissed as a lie.

You have to trust that you are being told the truth from ANY second hand research. The only way you could truly be classed as, ahem, "not apart of the herd and ... won't be culled" is to do your own FIRST hand research. Heard a story about a suicide bombing in Afghanistan? Unless you flew there yourself and witnessed it you are just a FUCKING SHEEP IN A HERD.

Mostly, you trust other people to tell you about it.

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Yes, but that "grain of truth" can be true, a lie, or anything in between. In most peoples cases, they hear what they want to hear and take that as truth, and anything they don't want to hear is dismissed as a lie.

They came to their conclusion. For good or bad they made up their mind. The real problem happens when that mind set is challenged with an opposing viewpoint that carries more weight then their initial conclusion. If they are a free thinker then they will adopt the better argument but if they are caught in a synthetic ideology then they will do everything in their power to dismiss the more reasonable argument.

You have to trust that you are being told the truth from ANY second hand research. The only way you could truly be classed as, ahem, "not apart of the herd and ... won't be culled" is to do your own FIRST hand research. Heard a story about a suicide bombing in Afghanistan? Unless you flew there yourself and witnessed it you are just a FUCKING SHEEP IN A HERD.

Mostly, you trust other people to tell you about it.

That's why books contain something called a bibliography. Check sources and then come up with your own conclusion.

And I never called anyone a sheep. Herd is just how I describe the vast majority of television watchers.

Zhukov
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:19 PM
Yes, yes ok. When you hear something on the news it's probably a lie, but when you read an article on an anti-climate change web site it's independent research.

TheCoolinator
Mar 24th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Yes, yes ok. When you hear something on the news it's probably a lie, but when you read an article on an anti-climate change web site it's independent research.

No,

Most things on the televisions corporate news stations are biased. There are some truths within them but they spin it to suit a specific interest.

Reading articles are similar but they cannot refute the topic of the article.


Example:

"Carbon Tax Shelved"

So right here we have proof that a carbon tax bill was trying to be established and it has been shelved due to internal working class struggles that saw the dangers of this legislation.

Carbon tax

Struggle against it

Carbon Tax failed

Who gains from this carbon tax?

The people? No, The corporations.

Very simple.

Zhukov
Mar 25th, 2010, 12:50 AM
What are you even saying here? That is just a thought train of you jumping to conclusions, it's got nothing to do with anything.

Seriously, whatever. OK, you are a maverick. Believing a conspiracy theory website is NOT like believing FOX news.

MattJack
Mar 25th, 2010, 09:27 AM
COOLIO ARE DEBATE KING

TheCoolinator
Mar 25th, 2010, 09:40 AM
COOLIO ARE DEBATE KING

I believe in this quote. :hypno