Mega Man 9

[Schimid]

FUCK THIS IS HARD

I used to think I was really good at Mega Man, I guess I just got used to the enemy and boss patterns of 2 and 3. I've tried my hand at Jewel Man, Hornet Man, Concrete Man, Tornado Man and Plug Man's stages. So far I've only gotten to Tornado and Plug Man, and both of them beat me down something fierce.

[Guitar Woman]

I didn't think someone could be "good" at Megaman in the same sense they'd be good at, say, Mario Strikers or Team Fortress 2, since it's basically just pattern memorization.

Like Battletoads.

[Grislygus]

Megaman X was better, man

[Tadao]

Megaman Xtreme will be better.

[Grislygus]

It's making me jealous of the Wii, though, I'll admit

[Phoenix Gamma]

I didn't think someone could be "good" at Megaman in the same sense they'd be good at, say, Mario Strikers or Team Fortress 2, since it's basically just pattern memorization.

Like Battletoads.

Maybe you need trial and error if you're really bad at it. Otherwise, it's feasible to beat a stage without memorization. Made it to Galaxy Man my first try.

I'm stuck on the third Wily Stage. Made it to the boss, but it's TWO of the yellow devils from MM1, so that's twice the amount of blobs to dodge :(

[Schimid]

I think you're "good" at a game like this if you can run through it relatively quickly...yeah, it's pattern memorization, but that doesn't mean you can't be good at memorizing the patterns, it's just a different kind of skill.

Yeah, Galaxy Man is cake...I really tried not to beat him first as I'd heard he was the easiest, but FUCK I can't imagine doing it any other way. I used the black hole against Hornet Man and it made the fight tons easier.

Up to my last one, Concrete Man now.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Got to the first part of the Wily fight. Holy shit, it's really hard and not like any of the other fights. By the time I figured out how to actually deal damage, I was screwed.

I do like the boss room this time, only because I got all 8 Quickdraw Achievements for the robot masters in one go. It was great. I also got Survivor from one of them as well, which felt really good.

[darkvare]

i'll wait till it gets released in live

[Zomboid]

I can't imagine getting anything other than intense frustration and a bit of nostalgia out of this game. I was like the fucking wizard when I played the first few megaman games as a kid, but I suck so bad at them now that it's more sad than anything else.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Yo Schmid, GamesRadar has a complete video guide on the game and all of the trickey parts people keep getting stuck on. Depending on how hard of a time you're having, you might want to check it out:

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/mega-man-9-complete-video-guide/a-2008092394639934042

[Schimid]

Finally beat it...Wily's third form was really giving me trouble. I'd always get careless and get knocked once in his first form, twice in his second and die in the third. Even when I learned the weakness, he wouldn't dare come near me.

I got a few challenges, but nothing of note :x

[VaporTrailx1]

Still got another week for us XBL guys

[darkvare]

at least we got duke nukem today

[Phoenix Gamma]

Beat the game. Got the Quick Draw award for Wily, which was great. So far I have 38% of the achievments, including not getting hit an entire stage, reaching a boss without shooting, and beating a stage without jumping more than 50 times. Working on a few others right now.

[Phoenix Gamma]

i'll wait till it gets released in live

Good luck playing with THIS:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/PGamma/1222377562621.jpg

I mean, I think the system's rad and all, but man, that's a shit D-Pad.

[pac-man]

Just northwest of that is a nifty little joystick that works fine.

[VaporTrailx1]

sadly i didn't know duke was out til i read your post.

[Guitar Woman]

If you think a joystick would work at all for a twitchy precision-based 2D game like Megaman, you're out of your mind.

[pac-man]

My mental state notwithstanding, I (and surely millions of others) have played plenty of sidescrollers using a joystick. Check out this little number if you think I'm full of shit:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b0/Nesadvantage.jpg/180px-Nesadvantage.jpg

But I guess there were no Mega Man games on the NES... oh wait, there were. Having played Castlevania: SOTN, Bionic Commando: Rearmed, Braid, and Sonic the Hedgehog using my Xbox 360 controller and its joystick, I find that it's pretty precise. Having said all that, yes, I am out of my mind.

[Ant10708]

Anyone buy the extra dude?

[darkvare]

Good luck playing with THIS:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/PGamma/1222377562621.jpg

I mean, I think the system's rad and all, but man, that's a shit D-Pad.
i played symphony of the night with the joystick and i use my wired 360 controller to play snes roms on my pc

[Chojin]

i'm actually really impressed with this game. The music is some of the best in the series, and it's hard as crap.

I realized how pampered we're gotten with games when I kept getting sent back to the start of the level after getting murdered to pieces 10 screens in.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Anyone buy the extra dude?

Doesn't hit till Oct. methinks. I probably won't buy it, since there doesn't seem to be much of an incentive to play as him. Then again, I'm gunning for all sorts of challenges, so I shouldn't be complaining about lack of incentives for shit.

[Emu]

Mega Man has well over two dozen titles to his name, and yet he still

can't

fucking

duck

[Guitar Woman]

Yeah, you'd think a magical space robot from the year one million would be able to crouch and at least shoot upwards.

[darkvare]

he can duck in zx but you have to take the armor off but now that i think about it is not really megaman i think in x6 he can

[Schimid]

I had the same thought as Emu, only I don't understand why Mega Man doesn't just tell Dr. Light to invent him some spike-resistant armor.

[darkvare]

cause he is dead?

[Schimid]

Yeah, maybe.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Yeah, you'd think a magical space robot from the year one million would be able to crouch and at least shoot upwards.

Excuse me but it's the year 200X, not one million. Robotics hasn't progressed that far yet. Duh :posh

[Guitar Woman]

So Megaman will become outdated in a year?

That's pretty funny.

[Neen]

ahem 20XX

[darkvare]

wait i have a question where did you pull out the fact that megaman is magical? by the way i found out there is a spike-resistant armor in x6

[Phoenix Gamma]

ahem 20XX

I'm pretty sure 20XX is Mega Man X. Or was that 21XX?

[Neen]

21XX is Mega Man X, yes.

[Phoenix Gamma]

And 200X was the original Mega Man games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Ao63nmzuE

[Neen]

Yeah, up until mega man 5, which is the last one I beat, so I guess I forgot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS0Lu_seKzw

[Phoenix Gamma]

So it took X0 years for the first 4 games to take place?

That's a long time :V

[Guitar Woman]

It hasn't happened for real yet, so obviously all four games take place in 2009.

[Sam]

THIS GAME IS FRUSTRATING. >:

[Zomboid]

INDEED. I started playing concrete man's stage, and having beaten megaman x earlier today, I wasn't expecting anything to pop out of those pits and knock me down when I try to jump over. THEN, I get to fight a bunch of fucking giant elephants.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Jewel Shield over the pits. Makes life easier than taking your time shooting everything in sight. Works wonders on Wily's stage, too.

Can't help you much on the elephants. Those guys always ruin my speedruns.

[Dr. Boogie]

Just walk right to the edge of the pit, shoot the first one that comes up, then jump over.

But fuck Concrete Man's concrete gun. I can dodge every other attack of his except that thing. A spray weapon that can cover nearly half the screen, damages you, AND freezes you in place? What an a-hole.

And I don't like how those earth-shaking attacks can still stun you if they happen when you're a short distance from the ground.

[Zomboid]

Thanks for the tips guys, but I was able to get past those once I learned that shit did in fact pop out of there.

I agree with the earth shaking attacks. That boulder sub-boss kept doing that to me even if I was in the air.

[Emu]

Two or three shots with the Tornado gun will take out the boulder boss. I couldn't get past him til I got it. :\

[LordSappington]

From what I can tell from all your posts, it's gonna be worth the time getting my 360 repaired just to buy this.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Just beat the game again in an hour and 2 minutes.

TWO MINUTES PAST THE 60 MINUTE CHALLENGE.

[Schimid]

I just beat the game without continuing in 45:something-something...only because every time I'd die on one of the eight robot master stages, I'd restart it so I could shave off that extra time. I loaded the fuck up on E-Tanks and had 9 lives before going into Wily's and only died once because of bad timing on the horizontal laser ladder.

Now that I've done the speedrun challenges, I can spend time on the rest of them...though I don't think I'll ever, ever beat the game without being hit.

What I don't get is how anyone could ever beat the game in only 22 minutes. That's stupid.

[Nick]

This seems like more trouble than it is worth.

[Phoenix Gamma]

So ProtoMan and Endless Stage came out for DLC today. I spent the last of my points on it, because I'm a whore.

Protoman fucking sucks. Sure, he can slide, charge, and reflect shots while jumping. He gets knocked back a mile when hit, and he takes double damage. Wily's first form keeps raping me.

Endless stage is pretty fun, despite my hatred of endless stages. I got 88 screens in before a grabby guy threw me down a spike pit. It was a good run, too.

[Seven Force]

hahahaha downloadable content i have to pay for
fuck that

games great otherwise

[VaporTrailx1]

Proto Man is pretty good as a Hard Mode concept, but paying for it. eh.

[Phoenix Gamma]

With today's economy, two bucks doesn't get you much else :V

[Ant10708]

With today's economy, thats all the more reason not to pay for content that should of been in the game to begin with :(

[Phoenix Gamma]

Touche.

[pac-man]

Today's economy:

http://www.clusterflock.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/zero-dollar.png

[Ant10708]

Touche.
I'm still tempted to get it thou :p

[Phoenix Gamma]

Well, I think Endless Stage is a lot of fun. It's like a mix between "how far can I get in that flash Helicopter game?" and the normal Mega Man formula.

Protoman is kinda lame, because the abilities are neat, but everything murders his health bar and sends him flying. There's no story and there's no store, so now you can't even compensate for taking double damage by buying shit. It's just disappointing.

I dunno. I wouldn't have downloaded them if I didn't have a few leftover points that I'd never spend.

[Chojin]

With today's economy, thats all the more reason not to pay for content that should of been in the game to begin with :(

Yes, because every other megaman game lets you play as multiple characters.

You spoiled twat.

[Chojin]

Back in MY DAY, a Megaman game was like $80. And you got one character, and you were happy with that.

[Chojin]

And you had to rely on NINTENDO POWER to tell you what order to beat the bosses in.

Fucking kids.

[Phoenix Gamma]

And you had to rely on NINTENDO POWER to tell you what order to beat the bosses in.

Fucking kids.

Real men beat all of the bosses with the Mega Buster.

MEGA Men.

Or exchanged tips and tricks at lunch. We did that too. Nintendo Power spoiled games, unless it was stuff like Zelda, where you NEED to know trivial shit like "bomb this spot right there".

[Emu]

I never read NP's game guides, I always just read the upcoming section. And the reader mail. :D

[Ant10708]

Yes, because every other megaman game lets you play as multiple characters.

You spoiled twat.
Not really what I meant you ass. They released this extra content like two weeks after the game's releases which means they had it made in time to add it in the original product instead of holding back content to charge more for. I always felt downloadable content was for or atleast should be for stuff they made after the game release to keep giving fans more not purposfully withholding content in order to charge for it later. Same thing with the Call of Duty 4 maps. Scam

[Zomboid]

Just don't buy them, then. People seem to be bitching about the downloads themselves, so that's even more reason to just not get them. It's horse shit to withhold content just to charge people for it later, but I don't care enough about any of the downloads to bother with them anyway.

[Chojin]

I think it's horseshit when it's something that really should have been in the game to begin with, but you can't argue that a 2nd playable character really should have been in megaman from the get-go.

[Ant10708]

Who the fuck should I aim to beat first? Every boss I get up to kicks my ass since I only have the blaster :(

[Emu]

Concrete Man or Splash Woman. Concrete man has a very predictable pattern and Splash Woman's weapon is pretty good.

[pac-man]

Galaxy Man. Definitely Galaxy Man.

[Ant10708]

Havn't tried Concrete Man yet. Splash woman kicks me ass.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/s-kill/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=39566001

I know a bunch of you out there probaly wish you had that. :love

[Emu]

Those things are going for insane prices on eBay. There are apparently only 200 in existence, and 145 of them are just being bought and immediately re-listed on eBay over and over again. Some as high as 400 or 500 dollars.

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1313&_nkw=mega+man+9&_sacat=See-All-Categories

[Ant10708]

Too bad the NES cart doesn't contain the actual game

[Emu]

It does.

[executioneer]

thats not what those ebay auctions you linked to say

[Emu]

Oh. I thought it did.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Yea, it's basically a media disk.

Even $50 is too much for some pictures in a fancy case.

[Ant10708]

I beat Galaxy Man:rock

[OxBlood]

Hm, so I invested the 800 Points and got the game. Being the zen-level-patient being I am, it took me about 1.5 hours to beat all 8 Robot Masters in one sitting and I have to say:

It´s a fun game. Not that easy initially, but since it is just about memorizing the levels, situations and Boss-patterns and after you know in which order to play those stages it gets a lot easier. I guess I´ll try to finish the Wily-Stages tomorrow...sadly you have to do that in one session.


Edit: Aaaand I´m done. Nearly 2 hours playtime...not that bad for the first time I guess.

Edit Edit: And 2nd Time in 01:27h...hey...this is fun.

[Ant10708]

Splash Woman defeated.

[Emu]

How the hell do you get through the first Wily stage? The part with the three laserbeams that fire across the screen always kills me.

[Phoenix Gamma]

How the hell do you get through the first Wily stage? The part with the three laserbeams that fire across the screen always kills me.

Depends on how you tackle it. Either:

A) Turn the lasers (magma) into platforms with the Cement Shot. This totally makes perfect sense.

B) As soon as you scroll up, use the Rush Coil to shoot up immediately; there's a small pause when you first approach the screen where none of the magma streams are active. Grab the left ladder, climb up and get the E Tank. Climb back down, and hang as low as you can on the ladder. Use the Rush Jet to fly left and land on top of the laser/magma thing (but not on the blast, of course). Then jet right and grab the right most ladder.

The second way sounds more complicated, but I found it to be way easier and with less risk of fucking it up.

[pac-man]

It's infinitely more satisfying to figure it out.
Here's a hint:
Concrete Man

[pac-man]

Nevermind.

[Phoenix Gamma]

When I saw the way you're supposed to do it, I was kinda pissed. How am I supposed to know concrete stops magma?

And how the fuck does concrete stop a black hole? Physics don't work like that :(

I hate videogames.

[Guitar Woman]

I downloaded it.

I'm glad to see Megaman is still as bullshit difficult as ever. But not really.

Galaxy Man was also absurdly easy. And rightfully, he gave me a really horrible weapon.

[Ant10708]

Concrete Man defeated on first encounter with him! Now who to tackle next. Hornet man I reckon.

[Guitar Woman]

Beat Galaxy Man.

He's really easy. His stage is also really funny because of the little robot crane guys that drop down and drag you to your death.

[pac-man]

I beat Galaxy Man:rock

For some reason I think he's got that base covered.

[Guitar Woman]

I read that as concrete man for whatever reason

Also beat him again

[OxBlood]

Galaxy Man was also absurdly easy. And rightfully, he gave me a really horrible weapon.

The Black Hole Bomb is not really useless. It comes in handy when fighting the dragons (About 3-4 hits and that´s it) and at some screens with many enemies close together. Also it kills Jewel Man and that alone makes it a good weapon...glittering pink Jewel Man...but his weapon is awesome, I´ll give him that.

[Guitar Woman]

Ok, I was up all night playing this

First of all, yeah, Galaxy Man's weapon is actually pretty awesome.

Second of all, FUCK this game

[Phoenix Gamma]

Anyone try Hard or Super Hard modes? Hard doesn't seem too bad if you've already beaten the game. I'm not dying as much as my first run through normal.

Super Hard is pretty damn tough.

Also, fuck Fake Man's stage. 3 or 4 minibosses, PLUS the Shark Rocket, plus the actual boss. Even when I power through it from start to finish, it takes about 6 minutes, compared to my 2-3 minute records on the other stages.

[Guitar Woman]

So I played this fucker for two hours last night after only intending to pick it up for five minutes :<

I'm still not a fan of the SPAM YOURSELF UNTIL YOU MEMORIZE ALL THESE PATTERNS brand of difficulty in Megaman, but beating a level that's had its foot up your ass for half an hour is no less satisfying even when it's hard in an extremely gay way. I'm actually starting to really regret using savestates for other Megaman games because it takes that feeling of ULTIMATE VICTORY away from you.

YEAH, FUCK YOU FLOATING BLOCKS THAT FADE FROM THIS MATERIAL DIMENSION AFTER HALF A SECOND, I GOT THE FUCKING PLUG BALLS.

[Emu]

They're not disappearing, they're platforms jutting out of the wall behind you. :rolleyes:

[Guitar Woman]

Well how was I supposed to know that

[MetalMilitia]

I downloaded the trial. Played for about 5 minutes. Died about 20 times and finally realised that I don't give a fuck about Mega Man and went off to play something else.

[VaporTrailx1]

Yah. i'm not too happy with it.

[Guitar Woman]

YOU GUYS NEED TO GROW SOME BALLS

[pac-man]

It's definitely not for everybody. I think it's great, but it has made swear to the point that if I wasn't going to hell before, I certainly am now.

[Chojin]

yeah, it's mostly only for people that like video games

[executioneer]

i havent liked any of the mega man games i've tried so far :(

[MetalMilitia]

yeah, it's mostly only for people that like video games

Video gays more like.

[Guitar Woman]

Only Hornet Man is left, now.

I really can't stress enough how much Plug Man and Jewel Man's stages can go fuck themselves.

Hornet Man's level can, too. Killing me a million times in the space of half an hour is one thing, but you start really making me shit in anger when it's because of a fucking retarded, wall-eyed flower robot hitting me with PETALS. That is just humiliating.

[Phoenix Gamma]

PROTIP: Jewel Satellite protects you from scissors; Plug Ball for the rock and flower pot guys. The flower boss just takes some practice. Then Rush Jet past the spike part, starting from the bottom and working your way up and over the incoming scissors. Then the rest of the stage is cake.

[Ant10708]

So how were sales for this game? Should we expect a Mega-Man 10?

I'd love to see other companies like Nintendo follow Capcom's lead and classic sequels.

[Phoenix Gamma]

It's was the highest selling WiiWare title after the first night. Multiply that by roughly three, then add DLC (x3). All for a game that probably cost a few bucks to make.

[OxBlood]

Only Hornet Man is left, now.

I really can't stress enough how much Plug Man and Jewel Man's stages can go fuck themselves.

Hornet Man's level can, too. Killing me a million times in the space of half an hour is one thing, but you start really making me shit in anger when it's because of a fucking retarded, wall-eyed flower robot hitting me with PETALS. That is just humiliating.

The flower boss takes about 4 seconds if you are positioned right. If not, he takes hmmm 20? Use Conrete shot or maybe Laser trident.

[pac-man]

So how were sales for this game? Should we expect a Mega-Man 10?

I'd love to see other companies like Nintendo follow Capcom's lead and classic sequels.

There's gotta be a Mega Man 10, and hopefully they do something more on the plotline side of things.

[Durrsomething]

I think it's stupid. Don't get me wrong, I'm just as happy to see the return of classic Megaman like you guys and view those spinoffs as bullshit, but c'mon, what is so wrong with a new Megaman game along the lines of 7 or 8? I mean those were fun changes of pace and had more creative Robot Masters. And kids love Megaman, so it's kinda unfair to make a game only for the nostalgia crowd

[Phoenix Gamma]

Mega Man 8 was really, really really bad.

JUMPJUMP!
SLIDESLIDE!

When you need to physically tell the gamer when to do what action, your level design is shit.

[pac-man]

I think it's stupid. Don't get me wrong, I'm just as happy to see the return of classic Megaman like you guys and view those spinoffs as bullshit, but c'mon, what is so wrong with a new Megaman game along the lines of 7 or 8? I mean those were fun changes of pace and had more creative Robot Masters. And kids love Megaman, so it's kinda unfair to make a game only for the nostalgia crowd

Kids can't love a game with 8-bit graphics? It's a better game than 7 or 8, and, let's face it, "the nostalgia crowd" is smarter than kids are anyway.

[Durrsomething]

You have to admit, 7 and 8 had pretty badass parts like when you fight the robot T-Rex, the Robot Master museum, and don't forget that in 8 you fought one Robot Master in FUCKING OUTER SPACE

7 also had the best boss theme and both games had more unique Robot Masters and fights

http://www.sinister6.com/images/cds/junkman2.gif

JUNKMAN HATE YOU GRRR

[Phoenix Gamma]

He fights Galaxy Man in space too. Expect it's fun.

[Guitar Woman]

I still haven't beaten Hornet Man's stage and I am a horrible person for it

[pac-man]

7 and 8 had their moments, sure. I think the decision to go with NES style graphics and gameplay was a good one on the whole. 9 can be really frustrating, but pound-for-pound it's one of the year's best games.

[Fathom Zero]

Perhaps Capcom can be persuaded to release Legends 1 or 2 on the XBLA.

[pac-man]

Well if they release one they gotta release the other. I just wish they'd make a 3rd Legends already.

[Nick]

They won't do that, because they can never get the Legends team to get back together and do it. They built the Lost Planet engine in hopes of a new Mega Man Legends title.

[pac-man]

They built the Lost Planet engine in hopes of a new Mega Man Legends title.

Never knew that... could've been a kickass 3D Mega Man right there.

[OxBlood]

I´d love a new Legends...never beat the first two but it was a lot of fun to play.

[Nick]

I like Legends because it doesn't involve me fighting 8 stages in a role and then storming a fortress to fight a wimpy scientist.

Also I enjoy kicking dogs, but that's just me.