Vice Presidential Debate

[bigtimecow]

going on right now. surprised there isn't a topic about this already

so far my only surprise: both parties are against gay marriages? lame :(

[Tadao]

Everyone is against gay marriages. I've been trying to watch it, but they are tooooo fucking dull. If McCain starting acting like the asshole he is, I would vote for him because he would keep me awake.

[bigtimecow]

bidden is hilarious, his faces are basically like this :lol everytime palin says something he disagrees with

[Jeanette X]

Palin is even stupider than I thought. Wow.

Kick her sorry ass Joe. Send her crying home back to Juneau.

[Tadao]

I noticed Obama was doing that with McCain and it made McCain look like a grumpy fuck. Palin is pulling that little girl giggle when she says Obama or Bidens name. I hate that. It's backfiring on me as I like my women strong.

[bigtimecow]

all palin seems to care about is her past and alaska. she's not addressing the issues, just pointing out crap that she's done in the past and giving extremely textbook vague answers

but bidden is also an asshole :lol

[bigtimecow]

AND JESUS CHRIST PALIN KEEPS CRITICIZING BIDDEN FOR "POINTING BACKWARDS"

DOES SHE EVEN KNOW WHAT SHE, HERSELF, IS SAYING? FUCK

[Jeanette X]

I noticed Obama was doing that with McCain and it made McCain look like a grumpy fuck. Palin is pulling that little girl giggle when she says Obama or Bidens name. I hate that. It's backfiring on me as I like my women strong.

I want to slap that vapid smile off her face. Will that give me extra credit, Mrs. Palin?

[bigtimecow]

palin is only targetting soccer moms

>:

edit: i swear obama is in the crowd and bidden and him keep exchanging looks of :lol and :rolleyes

[Tadao]

Lol that extra credit for 3rds grader shout out was sooooo preplanned. I did how ever hear her say something something John McCain has already tapped me something something. Perfect sound bite if you cut out the somethings.

[bigtimecow]

here she goes with the "hey america! i'm a mom!" bullshit

[Jeanette X]

Oh yeah, Biden's good. Watching him crush her is better than sex. I sure wish I hadn't missed the first half.

[Tadao]

http://palinbingo.com/Palinbingo.jpg.jpg

[bigtimecow]

alaska should take up 5 or 6 more boxes

[Tadao]

That would be too easy of a bingo.

[Dixie]

Dude Biden pulling out the choked up tear talking about his dead wife and daughter and raising his sons as a single parent was an incredible move.
Retarded babies aren't as loved as that.

[Tadao]

Not everyone has a retarded baby, but everyone had a dad at one point.

[pac-man]

http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/74565816/66705

"Stupid babies need the most attention!"

[Dixie]

I got yer special attention right here buddy
http://darwin-online.org.uk/graphics/Darwin1874s.jpg

[kahljorn]

is this an entertaining event to watch i cant decide if i should watch this or some type of movei ;o

[Dixie]

I thought it was ok, but only because I was yelling the whole time.
If you want to shrug alot, go for it.

[kahljorn]

I'm kind of indiffeernt towards shrugging ;o

[Dixie]

I wonder how many debate drinking game participants ended up in the hospital tonight.

[Dixie]

Biden was pretty respectful of her and tried to focus on McCain instead of Palin.
Palin did better than I hoped, but I still enjoyed her floundering and switching subjects so abruptly so many times.
Palin trying to pretend she didn't know what "you were for it before you were against it" was sickening. "I'm such a Washington outsider, I don't even know what that means". I threw empty cigarette packs at the TV then.
I wished Biden had come back to education, but I still have more confidence in him than her.

[Dr. Boogie]

I wonder how many debate drinking game participants ended up in the hospital tonight.

Depends on how many people drank whenever she said "maverick".

[MetalMilitia]

Matt Daemon (of all people) gave a somewhat amusing interview in which he compared Palin's vice presidency to a bad Disney movie. You could just imagine McCain kicking the bucket leaving Palin to run the county in the style of an over-protective hockey mom - using her womanly wisdom to make decisions while knowing fuck-all about actual politics.

Sounds about right.

[AChimp]

You should have all watched the Canadian leaders' debate that was on at the same time. Five party leaders sitting at a table getting into a free-for-all ruckus while citing specific examples rather than making vague references to stuff and repeating slogans. :love

[AChimp]

Plus the moderator was calling people on bullshit because he had an earpiece on with TV guys googling stuff that was being said!

[McClain]

First...

I'm kind of indiffeernt towards shrugging ;o

That made me lol.

I'm going to do a service and provide the TLDR version upfront; Palin scares me.

Since she made herself available for MSM interviews she's only solidified the fact that she's not informed. She doesn't have her finger on the pulse. Her answers are shifty and reek like a cheap aftershave (NEW! Talking Points Aftershave - by Mennen).

I don’t fully blame Palin for being ignorant. I blame McCain for choosing her as a running mate in an effort to secure the female demographic held by Clinton. Why don't I blame Palin? She's from Alaska. Yes, Alaska IS America. But it's remote. Distant. Proxy.

Have you ever been to Alaska? It's crazy. I got off a plane and took a cab to downtown Anchorage. It was a brisk, sunny day and when I walked in a bar it was desolate. I peered out the windows and the streets were reminiscent of a modern Armageddon; empty. I asked the bartender what was happening and he informed me it was 2 o'clock.
"Yeah, so?" I said.
"It's two a.m.," he said. "I'm closed."

Let's get off our high horse and admit that not all states are equal. That's why people want to live in California and Florida. They have nice climates and less clothing requirements. Alaska? South Dakota? No competition.

And how long does it take to get current news in Alaska? Did you see the interview where Katie Couric asked Palin what news publications she reads? Palin couldn’t cite a s i n g l e source. Are you friggin’ kidding me? Say something, woman! Anything! NY Post? Washington Post? No? How about your local rag? Can't think of that one either, eh? Okay... do you at least read your church bulletin? Oh, you wrote it?

I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt – she’s from Alaska.

(As far as I'm concerned the state got a lot less interesting when Marty Beckerman departed for Washington.)

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I spent 10+ years as a military public affairs specialist. I drafted communication points and training sessions for how to effectively maximize disclosure with minimal delay (was typically the opposite) and Palin sounds eerily similar to any one of the people who went through the training. Honestly, lots of politicians do. And in their defense, they don't realize they're being brainwashed. They're so happy to just be there. And their being crammed with information at a rate to intense they don't have time to ask questions.

"No, Commander. We don't want to inform the media that the nuclear spill plume is affected by wind direction; a more constructive approach is to tell them how we will contain the plume. Please reword your answer."

"Okay!"

I learned from the government how to collect data and information for historical purposes, and how to cater that information to conveniently omit FUBAR policy and events. The thought of an objective military historian is akin to pigs with wings.

I see Palin in my past experiences.

You know how I know Palin is bad? Her answers sound like answers I might give. And that's not acceptable. I expect people in her position to be able to cite specifics, understand the nuances of our economy and have a vested interest in how the machine works. She puts emphasis on keywords and catch-phrases (subconscious practices utilized to detract the viewer from the fact that the speaker is clueless) and I feel insulted when she speaks.

I try to remain non-partisan. I refuse to affiliate myself to a political party because I find the premise inherently unconstitutional. (google: Illusion of Choice, George Carlin) I am also a firm believer in accepting good practice, no matter which mouth spoke the truth. Palin has a few ideas right. She answered a few of the debate questions promptly and, and as Brokaw iterated about Biden prior to the start, in a succinct manner.

The McPalin stances that I agreed with were, in turn, concurred by the O'Biden ticket. What does that tell me? The public is going to receive the same treatment with these particular issues regardless who is in office. /shrug

Regardless of who is in office, we are a country run by deep pockets and special interest groups. How can an economy be engulfed in smoke with our elected officials so transparent, and we NOT see the truth?

I see the truth. Palin is bad.

Status quo begets economical degeneration.

I'm doing a Ron Paul write-in.

[Tadao]

OMG, I'll have to read that later after some coffee.

[Dixie]

VERY good assessment McClain!

[Dimnos]

I'm doing a Ron Paul write-in.

:rock Plain and simply :rock

[Dimnos]

http://incredimazing.com/static/media/2007/09/25/0e95c7565bdc37a/ronpaulconstitution.jpg

[Tadao]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2909496470_d751e8a3dc.jpg

[Mockery]

I'm going to do a service and provide the TLDR version upfront; Palin scares me.
Come on, anybody who winks that often when she speaks to AMERICA has got to be AOK!

[Tadao]

That would make McCain A#1 AMERICAN GIJOE!

[Colonel Flagg]

Most of the news outlets said that she did better than expected. Are our expectations of her really that low?

I can't believe that so many of the GOP talking heads still think she's the shit.

[kahljorn]

i can't get around how much of a joke this is

[VaporTrailx1]

(puts down Canada brochure)

Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with this debate either.

(wonder's how weather is in Toronto)

[ZeldaQueen]

I hated how Palin would launch off into long tangents that ignored the topic. Biden actually reasked her a question and she reanswered something else. On the other hand, she and Biden both dodged questions to a degree, which is probably a political trick.

Personally, she cracked me and my brother up when she said "Nuclear" and "there you go again" (Ronald Regan anyone?)

Oh, and that whole bit about asking soccer moms about the economy? I really hate to seem like I'm stereotyping, but I really doubt that if you asked a soccer mom about the economy you'd get such a really long involved response.

[Neen]

NUC-U-LER